Totally in for a Pejac

Ok guys just so you know I keep a track of those of you who showed interest in this, Pejac or other artists. I am also putting together a list of potential artists based on your brilliant suggestions. Let's see if we can convince Pejac, if not I will post a list of other artists and we will vote. 

I'd be in for a Pejac like everyone else but I can't see Max agreeing to it some how. Good luck. 8mail is also a good idea because he has a special link to this forum and he is an emerging talent.

In case the Pejac falls through, I would like to suggest Miss Bugs, I know they have been active since 2007/08 so hardly emerging but as far as I am aware the big auction houses have yet to sell their work, and again as far as I know have had no media attention.

Only a suggestion

In for a Pejac commish if it happens.

Thats a great idea!

No offence but I don't think Pejac needs your offers of help. I think the fact so many would definitely want to be involved shows that. If he wanted to do an edition of 25 then I reckon, maybe, just maybe, it'd sell out without the guarantee. If 80 people wanted to be involved, well wait for his next release.

I think this idea is more designed to help the buyer not the artist in this case .

If y'all are gonna dream like this, why not just ask Banksy?

I'd be in, depending on the artist/style.

Would love to see a commission from an up and coming artist, someone not established yet. Although I'd still love something from an artist like Pejac.

It's not an offer of help we re seeing if he wants upwards of 50k to do a print commission. If he says no he says no. Never any harm in asking.

Interesting thread.

As a discussion point, do you think an artist would rather sell their work based on its quality, or because a group of people on a forum have decided to randomly choose them to throw money at?

I guess it depends on the artists integrity and what they are interested in doing with their career. If it's all about money then that's fine I guess, but it's a bit saatchi-esq imo and there's not much heart involved.

Invest or interest, as my old art teacher used to say, you go for the easy cash, or you go your own way and work hard and possibly fail, but at least you did it yourself.

I want in too please thank you

This thread is an interesting phenomenon, one that seems to be inline with general ideas false or true collectors have. I have had some recent conversations about possibilities due to instagram and more accessibility to artists that collectors would attempt to self-curate. I guessed that they would be going directly to artists more, and also attempt concepts like this. It’s a curious experiment that I would have my reservations about for maybe different reasons, but I understand why this makes sense from a conceptual point of view.

The hard part about this is many collectors don’t really appreciate or understand what goes into making a print or the costs involved. Would you outsource and pay retail to a established printer, would someone do all the work themselves and charge a general fee. Once these basic logistics are figured out then you would have to establish a price point for the buyers. Also this price would be difficult if going direct as it could hurt the artists other releases if sold at a cheaper price, or vice versa. Price points are sticky subjects.

As far as Pejac, Max who manages pejac and has meticulously crafted and charted the rise of Pejac wouldn’t appreciate another group trying to jump in on years of hard work he has put into the artist. The loyalty an artist has to someone who has helped him take on projects, establish which ones to say no to, and also establish and maintain a steady demand for an artists work is no easy task in todays market. Im just saying Pejac might seem like all talent but someone behind the artist helping them shape their market and collector base is very under rated IMO. Yet Max was also smart in many ways, and he also took a different approach to building Pejac. He was able to go direct to collectors through print releases, versus solo exhibitions. Slowly building the base for original sales. I really think Max did a great job with this. I remember talking to Max years ago and we talked about these changes in the markets; he is great for being able to adapt. We weren’t talking about this particular artist but most curators/gallerists are able to see change coming. Sometimes you can slow it down or direct it in other ways, sometimes not so much.

So back to this thread, its interesting to see these different models being tested and watching collectors try to do everything on their own. Good luck to you that attempt to get this done, who knows maybe one day someone in here will be the next upcoming curator/gallery/printer. My advice would be would to establish a crowdfunding platform that doesn’t charge to much of the final amount raised create tiers for people to buy in. Get the costs of the print down, with price points and choose an artist to create an appealing image. If people like it the print will get funded if not, then no harm no foul except the artist might have had to paint an original work and would be let down if its not funded. This is basically the same principle as a normal print drop except someone has to pay for the whole edition to get printed usually and someone has the potential to lose money if the print doesn’t sell out.

Good idea, it's been done on here? Can't recall who the artist was? How about Ben frost? Approach him I like his work


also talking of an art collective, I've been trying to find an article from Sydney I read a few years ago about a group of friends who meet and invest in art. They have meetings, do research, visit a lot of shows together get on the free wine... all chip in a few thousand each year and have built up a decent collection of art and sculptures over the years.. the art is moved around each other's houses and they all have to sign contacts etc.. good hobby to have and these days better than investing in shares..

Be interesting to see how they are going.. I'll try to track articles..