trapnel1
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by trapnel1 on Sept 8, 2017 12:15:47 GMT 1, I visited the West Bank last autumn. It was fantastic to meet the people there, to see how they live and to hear about their problems. I'm sorry the hotel wasn't open - I would have stayed there without a doubt. With all this talk about merchandise, it seems to me that people are completely losing sight of why Banksy opened the hotel there. That's what we should be talking and thinking about, rather than all of the nonsense and wind ups on this thread. So, if some of you do get the chance to go, tell us about the experience and what you have learnt, not about the profit opportunites.
I visited the West Bank last autumn. It was fantastic to meet the people there, to see how they live and to hear about their problems. I'm sorry the hotel wasn't open - I would have stayed there without a doubt. With all this talk about merchandise, it seems to me that people are completely losing sight of why Banksy opened the hotel there. That's what we should be talking and thinking about, rather than all of the nonsense and wind ups on this thread. So, if some of you do get the chance to go, tell us about the experience and what you have learnt, not about the profit opportunites.
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Wearology
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Wearology on Sept 8, 2017 12:51:58 GMT 1, This place used to be somewhere where someone could come and usually get accurate and useful information - not made up stories and propaganda so certain individuals can garner a financial gain in acquiring a specific item that may or may not be for sale. The only facts are so far that I had a guy go to the hotel this morning and wait from open until close of the store and there was only postcards, coffee mugs and T-Shirts available. Everything else was not there. When he asked about the hooks they said they were sold out and also said no one ever bought one. The staff insinuated that the prints and other items were part of a practical joke created by the artist. Everything else you read or hear is rumor, innuendo and not based in reality.
This place used to be somewhere where someone could come and usually get accurate and useful information - not made up stories and propaganda so certain individuals can garner a financial gain in acquiring a specific item that may or may not be for sale. The only facts are so far that I had a guy go to the hotel this morning and wait from open until close of the store and there was only postcards, coffee mugs and T-Shirts available. Everything else was not there. When he asked about the hooks they said they were sold out and also said no one ever bought one. The staff insinuated that the prints and other items were part of a practical joke created by the artist. Everything else you read or hear is rumor, innuendo and not based in reality.
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 8, 2017 12:56:48 GMT 1, So wait an 'artist' releases art yet it can't actually be purchased because it wasn't actually released.
And everyone is complaining about the misinformation of the memebers in this thread.
People should be complaining about the artist. What a scam!
So wait an 'artist' releases art yet it can't actually be purchased because it wasn't actually released.
And everyone is complaining about the misinformation of the memebers in this thread.
People should be complaining about the artist. What a scam!
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caruso
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by caruso on Sept 8, 2017 12:59:30 GMT 1, So wait an 'artist' releases art yet it can't actually be purchased because it wasn't actually released. And everyone is complaining about the misinformation of the memebers in this thread. People should be complaining about the artist. What a scam! Anybody with the slightest amount of knowledge about Banksy would not be surprised he would create some art that would only virtually exist. After all, if millions of people believe a certain piece exist, it actually does in the collective imagination. That is also art in my books. I say well done Mr Banksy.
So wait an 'artist' releases art yet it can't actually be purchased because it wasn't actually released. And everyone is complaining about the misinformation of the memebers in this thread. People should be complaining about the artist. What a scam! Anybody with the slightest amount of knowledge about Banksy would not be surprised he would create some art that would only virtually exist. After all, if millions of people believe a certain piece exist, it actually does in the collective imagination. That is also art in my books. I say well done Mr Banksy.
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rob
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by rob on Sept 8, 2017 13:00:02 GMT 1, Grappling with the guilt of crucifying and killing Jesus. Then there's that whole Spear of Destiny thing... Who would be 'Grappling with the guilt of crucifying and killing Jesus'??
Grappling with the guilt of crucifying and killing Jesus. Then there's that whole Spear of Destiny thing... Who would be 'Grappling with the guilt of crucifying and killing Jesus'??
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 8, 2017 13:01:19 GMT 1, So wait an 'artist' releases art yet it can't actually be purchased because it wasn't actually released. And everyone is complaining about the misinformation of the memebers in this thread. People should be complaining about the artist. What a scam! Anybody with the slightest amount of knowledge about Banksy would not be surprised he would create some art that would only virtually exist. After all, if millions of people believe a certain piece exist, it actually does in the collective imagination. That is also art in my books. I say well done Mr Banksy.
Lol. Banksy has brainwashed his fans so well.
Seriously. Look at this defense everyone.
So wait an 'artist' releases art yet it can't actually be purchased because it wasn't actually released. And everyone is complaining about the misinformation of the memebers in this thread. People should be complaining about the artist. What a scam! Anybody with the slightest amount of knowledge about Banksy would not be surprised he would create some art that would only virtually exist. After all, if millions of people believe a certain piece exist, it actually does in the collective imagination. That is also art in my books. I say well done Mr Banksy. Lol. Banksy has brainwashed his fans so well. Seriously. Look at this defense everyone.
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klyde
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by klyde on Sept 8, 2017 13:04:19 GMT 1, Mr Banksy lolz
Mr Banksy lolz
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caruso
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by caruso on Sept 8, 2017 13:04:44 GMT 1, Anybody with the slightest amount of knowledge about Banksy would not be surprised he would create some art that would only virtually exist. After all, if millions of people believe a certain piece exist, it actually does in the collective imagination. That is also art in my books. I say well done Mr Banksy. Lol. Banksy has brainwashed his fans so well. Seriously. Look at this defense everyone. I can not teach you ethereal thinking if you are limited by your surrounding reality. Weird for an art lover, they normally are a bit more open-minded about new concepts. Or maybe you are just upset because you were planning on making a profit with this. Tough.
Anybody with the slightest amount of knowledge about Banksy would not be surprised he would create some art that would only virtually exist. After all, if millions of people believe a certain piece exist, it actually does in the collective imagination. That is also art in my books. I say well done Mr Banksy. Lol. Banksy has brainwashed his fans so well. Seriously. Look at this defense everyone. I can not teach you ethereal thinking if you are limited by your surrounding reality. Weird for an art lover, they normally are a bit more open-minded about new concepts. Or maybe you are just upset because you were planning on making a profit with this. Tough.
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caruso
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by caruso on Sept 8, 2017 13:06:02 GMT 1, You're right, maybe she's a woman. Ms Banksy then. Happy? Seriously.
You're right, maybe she's a woman. Ms Banksy then. Happy? Seriously.
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 13:09:18 GMT 1, Banksy does have form, look at the Gorilla print and the Bristol election print debacles. So, releasing something that isn't released could be the next step to this madness.
Banksy does have form, look at the Gorilla print and the Bristol election print debacles. So, releasing something that isn't released could be the next step to this madness.
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chevyav53
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by chevyav53 on Sept 8, 2017 13:14:32 GMT 1, That Rob is a cheeky/genius bastard.......
That Rob is a cheeky/genius bastard.......
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Hairbland
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Hairbland on Sept 8, 2017 13:15:02 GMT 1, Lol. Banksy has brainwashed his fans so well. Seriously. Look at this defense everyone. I can not teach you ethereal thinking if you are limited by your surrounding reality. Weird for an art lover, they normally are a bit more open-minded about new concepts. Or maybe you are just upset because you were planning on making a profit with this. Tough.
I would agree. From his piece referencing the art auction Morons to his having his work cheaply available to passersby in Central Park to virtual souvenirs to send up the lemmings this has been an ongoing theme of his.
Lol. Banksy has brainwashed his fans so well. Seriously. Look at this defense everyone. I can not teach you ethereal thinking if you are limited by your surrounding reality. Weird for an art lover, they normally are a bit more open-minded about new concepts. Or maybe you are just upset because you were planning on making a profit with this. Tough. I would agree. From his piece referencing the art auction Morons to his having his work cheaply available to passersby in Central Park to virtual souvenirs to send up the lemmings this has been an ongoing theme of his.
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by oxfordwelshchap on Sept 8, 2017 13:15:41 GMT 1, No, that's not true. Stop trolling. Book your tickets now guys, you need to get these prints ASAP they will be worth thousands within days. You havnt a clue mate. There's loads of people here all waiting or the same thing. Like I said I'm sat in the walled off right now Just ignore him its for the best!
No, that's not true. Stop trolling. Book your tickets now guys, you need to get these prints ASAP they will be worth thousands within days. You havnt a clue mate. There's loads of people here all waiting or the same thing. Like I said I'm sat in the walled off right now Just ignore him its for the best!
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caruso
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by caruso on Sept 8, 2017 13:21:56 GMT 1, Banksy does have form, look at the Gorilla print and the Bristol election print debacles. So, releasing something that isn't released could be the next step to this madness. Exactly. Thank you, someone is thinking on this forum.
Banksy does have form, look at the Gorilla print and the Bristol election print debacles. So, releasing something that isn't released could be the next step to this madness. Exactly. Thank you, someone is thinking on this forum.
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 8, 2017 13:22:11 GMT 1, Lol. Banksy has brainwashed his fans so well. Seriously. Look at this defense everyone. I can not teach you ethereal thinking if you are limited by your surrounding reality. Weird for an art lover, they normally are a bit more open-minded about new concepts. Or maybe you are just upset because you were planning on making a profit with this. Tough.
Lol. Another gem.
I like when artists produce art!
Sure conceptual art can be nice. But fake releasing art isn't conceptual art.
I'm all about concepts. But this one is super poor and the fact that it needs defenders like you proves it.
Lol. Banksy has brainwashed his fans so well. Seriously. Look at this defense everyone. I can not teach you ethereal thinking if you are limited by your surrounding reality. Weird for an art lover, they normally are a bit more open-minded about new concepts. Or maybe you are just upset because you were planning on making a profit with this. Tough. Lol. Another gem. I like when artists produce art! Sure conceptual art can be nice. But fake releasing art isn't conceptual art. I'm all about concepts. But this one is super poor and the fact that it needs defenders like you proves it.
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 8, 2017 13:23:19 GMT 1, I can not teach you ethereal thinking if you are limited by your surrounding reality. Weird for an art lover, they normally are a bit more open-minded about new concepts. Or maybe you are just upset because you were planning on making a profit with this. Tough. I would agree. From his piece referencing the art auction Morons to his having his work cheaply available to passersby in Central Park to virtual souvenirs to send up the lemmings this has been an ongoing theme of his.
So let me gets this right. These are just virtual souvenirs?
And if they are real what are they then?
Can't have it both ways folks!
I can not teach you ethereal thinking if you are limited by your surrounding reality. Weird for an art lover, they normally are a bit more open-minded about new concepts. Or maybe you are just upset because you were planning on making a profit with this. Tough. I would agree. From his piece referencing the art auction Morons to his having his work cheaply available to passersby in Central Park to virtual souvenirs to send up the lemmings this has been an ongoing theme of his. So let me gets this right. These are just virtual souvenirs? And if they are real what are they then? Can't have it both ways folks!
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 8, 2017 13:24:49 GMT 1, Banksy does have form, look at the Gorilla print and the Bristol election print debacles. So, releasing something that isn't released could be the next step to this madness. Exactly. Thank you, someone is thinking on this forum.
Okay and when they become reality what is it then?
Good physical art? What happens to that concept of virtual art you so highly are pushing?
Let's do some thinking if you are so keen...
Banksy does have form, look at the Gorilla print and the Bristol election print debacles. So, releasing something that isn't released could be the next step to this madness. Exactly. Thank you, someone is thinking on this forum. Okay and when they become reality what is it then? Good physical art? What happens to that concept of virtual art you so highly are pushing? Let's do some thinking if you are so keen...
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Hairbland
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Hairbland on Sept 8, 2017 13:25:05 GMT 1, I would agree. From his piece referencing the art auction Morons to his having his work cheaply available to passersby in Central Park to virtual souvenirs to send up the lemmings this has been an ongoing theme of his. So let me gets this right. These are just virtual souvenirs? And if they are real what are they then? Can't have it both ways folks! I think people are referencing items like the grappling hook (which seems to make some people think), versus mugs and tote bags.
I would agree. From his piece referencing the art auction Morons to his having his work cheaply available to passersby in Central Park to virtual souvenirs to send up the lemmings this has been an ongoing theme of his. So let me gets this right. These are just virtual souvenirs? And if they are real what are they then? Can't have it both ways folks! I think people are referencing items like the grappling hook (which seems to make some people think), versus mugs and tote bags.
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Dibbs 45 on Sept 8, 2017 13:26:17 GMT 1, I heard dappy has the special insider info PDF on how to order the in person items. ... there's me thinking I would have a quiet evening ... ... take a couple of hours off ... and then come back to a full Inbox ๐ฅ ... lol ๐๐๐
Lot of gullible people on here mate.
I heard dappy has the special insider info PDF on how to order the in person items. ... there's me thinking I would have a quiet evening ... ... take a couple of hours off ... and then come back to a full Inbox ๐ฅ ... lol ๐๐๐ Lot of gullible people on here mate.
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caruso
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by caruso on Sept 8, 2017 13:27:39 GMT 1, I would agree. From his piece referencing the art auction Morons to his having his work cheaply available to passersby in Central Park to virtual souvenirs to send up the lemmings this has been an ongoing theme of his. So let me gets this right. These are just virtual souvenirs? And if they are real what are they then? Can't have it both ways folks! So your life reality is only composed of material things? What about your emotions? Are they not real? Think deeper than the obvious on the surface.
I would agree. From his piece referencing the art auction Morons to his having his work cheaply available to passersby in Central Park to virtual souvenirs to send up the lemmings this has been an ongoing theme of his. So let me gets this right. These are just virtual souvenirs? And if they are real what are they then? Can't have it both ways folks! So your life reality is only composed of material things? What about your emotions? Are they not real? Think deeper than the obvious on the surface.
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 8, 2017 13:42:43 GMT 1, So let me gets this right. These are just virtual souvenirs? And if they are real what are they then? Can't have it both ways folks! So your life reality is only composed of material things? What about your emotions? Are they not real? Think deeper than the obvious on the surface.
Did I say that? Nope.
Banksy announces art release. Response: these are great prints and sculptures. It appears these might not be real but just virtual fluff to draw attention. Response: what great conceptual art! Actual trinkets and things done by others gets released. Response: what great art by banksy!
So let me gets this right. These are just virtual souvenirs? And if they are real what are they then? Can't have it both ways folks! So your life reality is only composed of material things? What about your emotions? Are they not real? Think deeper than the obvious on the surface. Did I say that? Nope. Banksy announces art release. Response: these are great prints and sculptures. It appears these might not be real but just virtual fluff to draw attention. Response: what great conceptual art! Actual trinkets and things done by others gets released. Response: what great art by banksy!
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by GMA on Sept 8, 2017 15:01:31 GMT 1, So, anyone out there right now? What's it like?
So, anyone out there right now? What's it like?
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themister
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by themister on Sept 8, 2017 15:14:31 GMT 1,
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 15:15:37 GMT 1, I think people are jumping to conclusions and overthinking this. I have no doubt the items will be released
I think people are jumping to conclusions and overthinking this. I have no doubt the items will be released
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by ak1 on Sept 8, 2017 15:30:06 GMT 1, Lemmings, gullible and morons have already been mentioned. Enough said๐๐๐๐
Lemmings, gullible and morons have already been mentioned. Enough said๐๐๐๐
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Cookiemonster on Sept 8, 2017 15:36:42 GMT 1, I do have to agree that all those who made that mad rush out to Bethlehem without getting full information first, that is on you, that is not the artists, POW's or Pest Control's fault for not giving you more information. With exception to the grapple hook, everything else are open editions, so no rush to go. Also how is this a publicity stunt to get more customers to the hotel, when even prior to the announcement yesterday, all the rooms were booked virtually all the way up till December.
You jumped the gun coz you saw the $$$$$.
I do have to agree that all those who made that mad rush out to Bethlehem without getting full information first, that is on you, that is not the artists, POW's or Pest Control's fault for not giving you more information. With exception to the grapple hook, everything else are open editions, so no rush to go. Also how is this a publicity stunt to get more customers to the hotel, when even prior to the announcement yesterday, all the rooms were booked virtually all the way up till December.
You jumped the gun coz you saw the $$$$$.
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 15:40:47 GMT 1, I do have to agree that all those who made that mad rush out to Bethlehem without getting full information first, that is on you, that is not the artists, POW's or Pest Control's fault for not giving you more information. With exception to the grapple hook, everything else are open editions, so no rush to go. Also how is this a publicity stunt to get more customers to the hotel, when even prior to the announcement yesterday, all the rooms were booked virtually all the way up till December. You jumped the gun coz you saw the $$$$$. Ow the truth hurts Hand up I was guilty but that bu##er Mr B does that doesn't he, I have calmed down now though
I do have to agree that all those who made that mad rush out to Bethlehem without getting full information first, that is on you, that is not the artists, POW's or Pest Control's fault for not giving you more information. With exception to the grapple hook, everything else are open editions, so no rush to go. Also how is this a publicity stunt to get more customers to the hotel, when even prior to the announcement yesterday, all the rooms were booked virtually all the way up till December. You jumped the gun coz you saw the $$$$$. Ow the truth hurts Hand up I was guilty but that bu##er Mr B does that doesn't he, I have calmed down now though
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Hairbland
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Hairbland on Sept 8, 2017 15:46:52 GMT 1, I would agree. From his piece referencing the art auction Morons to his having his work cheaply available to passersby in Central Park to virtual souvenirs to send up the lemmings this has been an ongoing theme of his. I don't think the New York stunt is the same as this would be if the goods turned out to be a lie. There was nothing deceptive about selling the canvases as he did
Except it is all about sending up the art audience, his audience. Is my stuff worth tens of thousands or ten dollars. Is my work real? Am I real? Quite the social commentator.
I would agree. From his piece referencing the art auction Morons to his having his work cheaply available to passersby in Central Park to virtual souvenirs to send up the lemmings this has been an ongoing theme of his. I don't think the New York stunt is the same as this would be if the goods turned out to be a lie. There was nothing deceptive about selling the canvases as he did Except it is all about sending up the art audience, his audience. Is my stuff worth tens of thousands or ten dollars. Is my work real? Am I real? Quite the social commentator.
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Happy Shopper on Sept 8, 2017 16:48:44 GMT 1, I do have to agree that all those who made that mad rush out to Bethlehem without getting full information first, that is on you, that is not the artists, POW's or Pest Control's fault for not giving you more information. With exception to the grapple hook, everything else are open editions, so no rush to go. Also how is this a publicity stunt to get more customers to the hotel, when even prior to the announcement yesterday, all the rooms were booked virtually all the way up till December. You jumped the gun coz you saw the $$$$$. I seriously thought about going, but backed out for fear it would be a shit show, but...
1. They did say the store is now open, and on the sales page it says the items are available in store. Not too hard to get the "wrong" idea!
2. Yesterday ALL rooms were still available, even for this weekend. I was an inch away from booking the Banksy Scenic Suite for 1 night (tonight)... in fact there are STILL rooms available this Sunday.
I do have to agree that all those who made that mad rush out to Bethlehem without getting full information first, that is on you, that is not the artists, POW's or Pest Control's fault for not giving you more information. With exception to the grapple hook, everything else are open editions, so no rush to go. Also how is this a publicity stunt to get more customers to the hotel, when even prior to the announcement yesterday, all the rooms were booked virtually all the way up till December. You jumped the gun coz you saw the $$$$$. I seriously thought about going, but backed out for fear it would be a shit show, but... 1. They did say the store is now open, and on the sales page it says the items are available in store. Not too hard to get the "wrong" idea! 2. Yesterday ALL rooms were still available, even for this weekend. I was an inch away from booking the Banksy Scenic Suite for 1 night (tonight)... in fact there are STILL rooms available this Sunday.
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Banksy, Walled Off Hotel, GIFT SHOP, by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 16:57:11 GMT 1, Plenty rooms still available for the rest of the year.
Plenty rooms still available for the rest of the year.
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