Hairbland
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by Hairbland on Sept 12, 2017 20:09:00 GMT 1, Not from an investment. Outside this forum he almost doesn't exist and has next to no auction results at the moment. That's not to say that won't change. I don't love his work, I went to his show and thought it hit and miss. I can see why people like it - just not for me. Does Ebay count as auction results? Anyway, fair enough. But if I could have bought Scattercrow from source, it would have been 200%ish return in a week. Not a bad investment. Silly to turn that down.
Right, but most of the highly coveted prints that sell out quickly tend to go for 2 / 3 / 4 times as much in the first week or two of release due to the need for instant gratification. How do Pejac's prices hold up 6 months after, and how will they be in 5 years?
Not from an investment. Outside this forum he almost doesn't exist and has next to no auction results at the moment. That's not to say that won't change. I don't love his work, I went to his show and thought it hit and miss. I can see why people like it - just not for me. Does Ebay count as auction results? Anyway, fair enough. But if I could have bought Scattercrow from source, it would have been 200%ish return in a week. Not a bad investment. Silly to turn that down. Right, but most of the highly coveted prints that sell out quickly tend to go for 2 / 3 / 4 times as much in the first week or two of release due to the need for instant gratification. How do Pejac's prices hold up 6 months after, and how will they be in 5 years?
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by oxfordwelshchap on Sept 12, 2017 20:20:50 GMT 1, Does Ebay count as auction results? Anyway, fair enough. But if I could have bought Scattercrow from source, it would have been 200%ish return in a week. Not a bad investment. Silly to turn that down. Right, but most of the highly coveted prints that sell out quickly tend to go for 2 / 3 / 4 times as much in the first week or two of release due to the need for instant gratification. How do Pejac's prices hold up 6 months after, and how will they be in 5 years? why does that matter?
Does Ebay count as auction results? Anyway, fair enough. But if I could have bought Scattercrow from source, it would have been 200%ish return in a week. Not a bad investment. Silly to turn that down. Right, but most of the highly coveted prints that sell out quickly tend to go for 2 / 3 / 4 times as much in the first week or two of release due to the need for instant gratification. How do Pejac's prices hold up 6 months after, and how will they be in 5 years? why does that matter?
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highflyer
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by highflyer on Sept 12, 2017 20:26:15 GMT 1, Does Ebay count as auction results? Anyway, fair enough. But if I could have bought Scattercrow from source, it would have been 200%ish return in a week. Not a bad investment. Silly to turn that down. Right, but most of the highly coveted prints that sell out quickly tend to go for 2 / 3 / 4 times as much in the first week or two of release due to the need for instant gratification. How do Pejac's prices hold up 6 months after, and how will they be in 5 years?
Who knows, that is the million dollar question. But nobody can argue that they haven't been a good investment up to now can they? I think his first print came out three years ago. Not sure what the return in % would be now but I think it's profit.
But Scattercrow would have been a great investment. Either way.
Does Ebay count as auction results? Anyway, fair enough. But if I could have bought Scattercrow from source, it would have been 200%ish return in a week. Not a bad investment. Silly to turn that down. Right, but most of the highly coveted prints that sell out quickly tend to go for 2 / 3 / 4 times as much in the first week or two of release due to the need for instant gratification. How do Pejac's prices hold up 6 months after, and how will they be in 5 years? Who knows, that is the million dollar question. But nobody can argue that they haven't been a good investment up to now can they? I think his first print came out three years ago. Not sure what the return in % would be now but I think it's profit. But Scattercrow would have been a great investment. Either way.
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wrigs
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by wrigs on Sept 12, 2017 20:32:28 GMT 1, Mate, really don't worry what anyone says. Your view is as important as anyones. Welcome by the way But you should check out Pejac's Street stuff. Www.pejac.es
Think the ideas work much better as street art ๐
Mate, really don't worry what anyone says. Your view is as important as anyones. Welcome by the way But you should check out Pejac's Street stuff. Www.pejac.es Think the ideas work much better as street art ๐
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gladwin
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by gladwin on Sept 12, 2017 20:44:12 GMT 1, Pejac for me all the way Missed out on Scattercrow though unfortunately Tried but missed out
Pejac for me all the way Missed out on Scattercrow though unfortunately Tried but missed out
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WOOF
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by WOOF on Sept 12, 2017 21:06:32 GMT 1, Lot of people trying to protect their pejac investments in here...
I can see arguing you like his art more, (I don't, but some people do) but to say that invader and pejac are even close to the same level is ludicrous. Pejac is a nobody in comparison, based on auction results, shows, street work - all of it.
Lot of people trying to protect their pejac investments in here...
I can see arguing you like his art more, (I don't, but some people do) but to say that invader and pejac are even close to the same level is ludicrous. Pejac is a nobody in comparison, based on auction results, shows, street work - all of it.
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highflyer
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by highflyer on Sept 12, 2017 21:13:19 GMT 1, Lot of people trying to protect their pejac investments in here... I can see arguing you like his art more, (I don't, but some people do) but to say that invader and pejac are even close to the same level is ludicrous. Pejac is a nobody in comparison, based on auction results, shows, street work - all of it.
Maybe you could point out to us where people have said Pejac and Invader are the same level?
Lot of people trying to protect their pejac investments in here... I can see arguing you like his art more, (I don't, but some people do) but to say that invader and pejac are even close to the same level is ludicrous. Pejac is a nobody in comparison, based on auction results, shows, street work - all of it. Maybe you could point out to us where people have said Pejac and Invader are the same level?
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Hairbland
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by Hairbland on Sept 12, 2017 21:14:32 GMT 1, Right, but most of the highly coveted prints that sell out quickly tend to go for 2 / 3 / 4 times as much in the first week or two of release due to the need for instant gratification. How do Pejac's prices hold up 6 months after, and how will they be in 5 years? why does that matter? . The OP had questions as to each print, particularly investment value. I think my post is fairly easy to understand. Yes either can be flipped for quick profit upon release, but which holds up and increases over time?
Right, but most of the highly coveted prints that sell out quickly tend to go for 2 / 3 / 4 times as much in the first week or two of release due to the need for instant gratification. How do Pejac's prices hold up 6 months after, and how will they be in 5 years? why does that matter? . The OP had questions as to each print, particularly investment value. I think my post is fairly easy to understand. Yes either can be flipped for quick profit upon release, but which holds up and increases over time?
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highflyer
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by highflyer on Sept 12, 2017 21:17:05 GMT 1, From an investment point of view, as per the original post, would that not depend on the price? Not from an investment. Outside this forum he almost doesn't exist and has next to no auction results at the moment. That's not to say that won't change. I don't love his work, I went to his show and thought it hit and miss. I can see why people like it - just not for me.
He has 52k+ followers on instagram and FB.
From an investment point of view, as per the original post, would that not depend on the price? Not from an investment. Outside this forum he almost doesn't exist and has next to no auction results at the moment. That's not to say that won't change. I don't love his work, I went to his show and thought it hit and miss. I can see why people like it - just not for me. He has 52k+ followers on instagram and FB.
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Hairbland
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by Hairbland on Sept 12, 2017 21:18:46 GMT 1, Lot of people trying to protect their pejac investments in here... I can see arguing you like his art more, (I don't, but some people do) but to say that invader and pejac are even close to the same level is ludicrous. Pejac is a nobody in comparison, based on auction results, shows, street work - all of it. Maybe you could point out to us where people have said Pejac and Invader are the same level?
Reading into Woof's comment, imo it seems he is saying that since Invader is well known, and by comparison Pejac is not, that Invader is the better investment and he finds it funny that anyone would think otherwise.
Lot of people trying to protect their pejac investments in here... I can see arguing you like his art more, (I don't, but some people do) but to say that invader and pejac are even close to the same level is ludicrous. Pejac is a nobody in comparison, based on auction results, shows, street work - all of it. Maybe you could point out to us where people have said Pejac and Invader are the same level? Reading into Woof's comment, imo it seems he is saying that since Invader is well known, and by comparison Pejac is not, that Invader is the better investment and he finds it funny that anyone would think otherwise.
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Hairbland
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by Hairbland on Sept 12, 2017 21:19:52 GMT 1, Not from an investment. Outside this forum he almost doesn't exist and has next to no auction results at the moment. That's not to say that won't change. I don't love his work, I went to his show and thought it hit and miss. I can see why people like it - just not for me. He has 52k+ followers on instagram and FB.
As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing.
Not from an investment. Outside this forum he almost doesn't exist and has next to no auction results at the moment. That's not to say that won't change. I don't love his work, I went to his show and thought it hit and miss. I can see why people like it - just not for me. He has 52k+ followers on instagram and FB. As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing.
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highflyer
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by highflyer on Sept 12, 2017 21:22:22 GMT 1, He has 52k+ followers on instagram and FB. As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing.
Maybe not for your bands mate. But it does mean something in many cases I'm afraid.
He has 52k+ followers on instagram and FB. As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing. Maybe not for your bands mate. But it does mean something in many cases I'm afraid.
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WOOF
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by WOOF on Sept 12, 2017 21:22:24 GMT 1, He has 52k+ followers on instagram and FB. As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing. haha yup, followers are basically free these days.
He has 52k+ followers on instagram and FB. As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing. haha yup, followers are basically free these days.
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highflyer
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by highflyer on Sept 12, 2017 21:24:43 GMT 1, As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing. haha yup, followers are basically free these days.
Basically? Don't think you ever had to pay for them.
As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing. haha yup, followers are basically free these days. Basically? Don't think you ever had to pay for them.
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by oxfordwelshchap on Sept 12, 2017 21:30:31 GMT 1, He has 52k+ followers on instagram and FB. As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing. But it means a lot in the art world...
He has 52k+ followers on instagram and FB. As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing. But it means a lot in the art world...
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by oxfordwelshchap on Sept 12, 2017 21:31:53 GMT 1, Sooo say someone had a Pejac Meadow, and wanted to trade it for an Invader, what would be an equal swap? That depends on your viewpoint I guess. I wouldn't trade a meadow for any invader, many would disagree.
Sooo say someone had a Pejac Meadow, and wanted to trade it for an Invader, what would be an equal swap? That depends on your viewpoint I guess. I wouldn't trade a meadow for any invader, many would disagree.
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highflyer
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by highflyer on Sept 12, 2017 21:33:23 GMT 1, Maybe you could point out to us where people have said Pejac and Invader are the same level? Reading into Woof's comment, imo it seems he is saying that since Invader is well known, and by comparison Pejac is not, that Invader is the better investment and he finds it funny that anyone would think otherwise.
Fair enough but that's not what he wrote. He stated that "to say that invader and pejac are even close to the same level is ludicrous." So, either he means someone on this thread said that...or he is the only one who said it, which is a little hypocritical.
Maybe you could point out to us where people have said Pejac and Invader are the same level? Reading into Woof's comment, imo it seems he is saying that since Invader is well known, and by comparison Pejac is not, that Invader is the better investment and he finds it funny that anyone would think otherwise. Fair enough but that's not what he wrote. He stated that "to say that invader and pejac are even close to the same level is ludicrous." So, either he means someone on this thread said that...or he is the only one who said it, which is a little hypocritical.
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highflyer
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by highflyer on Sept 12, 2017 21:35:23 GMT 1, Sooo say someone had a Pejac Meadow, and wanted to trade it for an Invader, what would be an equal swap?
Hmmm, interesting one. You may get one or two PMs. Not seen any real sales for the LED so not sure and there have been no very recent Meadow sales. I'll swap an RVE for your Meadow :-)
Sooo say someone had a Pejac Meadow, and wanted to trade it for an Invader, what would be an equal swap? Hmmm, interesting one. You may get one or two PMs. Not seen any real sales for the LED so not sure and there have been no very recent Meadow sales. I'll swap an RVE for your Meadow :-)
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murrke04
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September 2017
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by murrke04 on Sept 12, 2017 21:39:08 GMT 1, Tilework of aliens! What a brilliant concept!!!
Bravo Invader! A real genius, NOT!!!!
Tried buying a postcard on his site and it wouldn't even accept American Express!
Tilework of aliens! What a brilliant concept!!!
Bravo Invader! A real genius, NOT!!!!
Tried buying a postcard on his site and it wouldn't even accept American Express!
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Hairbland
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by Hairbland on Sept 12, 2017 21:52:39 GMT 1, As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing. But it means a lot in the art world... ...which is why a smart part of one's budget is/are social media managers/marketers.
As someone who manages and markets bands, those numbers mean nothing. But it means a lot in the art world... ...which is why a smart part of one's budget is/are social media managers/marketers.
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by oxfordwelshchap on Sept 12, 2017 21:54:24 GMT 1, But it means a lot in the art world... ...which is why a smart part of one's budget is/are social media managers/marketers. Which bands do you represent by the way? Or are you not allowed to say.
But it means a lot in the art world... ...which is why a smart part of one's budget is/are social media managers/marketers. Which bands do you represent by the way? Or are you not allowed to say.
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Hairbland
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by Hairbland on Sept 12, 2017 21:55:55 GMT 1, haha yup, followers are basically free these days. Basically? Don't think you ever had to pay for them. . You pay for a herding dog.
haha yup, followers are basically free these days. Basically? Don't think you ever had to pay for them. . You pay for a herding dog.
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highflyer
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by highflyer on Sept 12, 2017 22:10:48 GMT 1, Basically? Don't think you ever had to pay for them. . You pay for a herding dog.
Why would you if they are free these days? Or was that some sort of joke because your buddy's name is Woof?
Come on boys. You're embarrassing yourselves now. We get it, you don't like Pejac. It's fine, nobody says you have to.
Basically? Don't think you ever had to pay for them. . You pay for a herding dog. Why would you if they are free these days? Or was that some sort of joke because your buddy's name is Woof? Come on boys. You're embarrassing yourselves now. We get it, you don't like Pejac. It's fine, nobody says you have to.
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highflyer
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by highflyer on Sept 12, 2017 22:13:01 GMT 1, But it means a lot in the art world... ...which is why a smart part of one's budget is/are social media managers/marketers.
Invader/Banksy must spend/pay a hell of a lot on social media managers/marketers then, they have loads/thousands/lots more followers.
But it means a lot in the art world... ...which is why a smart part of one's budget is/are social media managers/marketers. Invader/Banksy must spend/pay a hell of a lot on social media managers/marketers then, they have loads/thousands/lots more followers.
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brycepen
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by brycepen on Sept 12, 2017 22:30:18 GMT 1, Invader LED. No contest. Not even close.
Nothing against pejac. i wanted them both, but I wanted LED way more. And not just because of the hype. I didn't even try for RVE because I just wasnt that into it.
Invader LED. No contest. Not even close.
Nothing against pejac. i wanted them both, but I wanted LED way more. And not just because of the hype. I didn't even try for RVE because I just wasnt that into it.
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WOOF
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by WOOF on Sept 13, 2017 1:10:30 GMT 1, haha yup, followers are basically free these days. Basically? Don't think you ever had to pay for them.
I'm talking about people buying fake followers.
haha yup, followers are basically free these days. Basically? Don't think you ever had to pay for them. I'm talking about people buying fake followers.
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Hairbland
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by Hairbland on Sept 13, 2017 1:54:54 GMT 1, ...which is why a smart part of one's budget is/are social media managers/marketers. Invader/Banksy must spend/pay a hell of a lot on social media managers/marketers then, they have loads/thousands/lots more followers.
It doesn't work that way, although I'm sure both have people doing this - the difference is they are established brands, so the team manages the brand. New and upcoming are trying to create a brand, and work to share with fans of established brands, building their audience along the way.
But saying Invader a better investment is no slag on Pejac.
...which is why a smart part of one's budget is/are social media managers/marketers. Invader/Banksy must spend/pay a hell of a lot on social media managers/marketers then, they have loads/thousands/lots more followers. It doesn't work that way, although I'm sure both have people doing this - the difference is they are established brands, so the team manages the brand. New and upcoming are trying to create a brand, and work to share with fans of established brands, building their audience along the way. But saying Invader a better investment is no slag on Pejac.
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nighthawk
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by nighthawk on Sept 13, 2017 2:35:02 GMT 1, I've almost chimed in a few times, but seem to have always come to my senses. This time, not so much...blame the beer!
In my opinion, Invader is now on another level - let's call it "banksy-esque"! Will his works be worth as much as Banksy's? Probably not, but who knows! The point is that he's made that leap, after a couple DECADES of work! Decades though, not just a few years like Pejac has, so let's keep that in mind. I can't really see his (Invader's) stock dropping, like I can't see Banksy's dropping, but stranger things HAVE happened
Pejac is such an amazingly talented artist, and has an entire career ahead him! Full disclaimer: he's also one of my favourite artists, so I may be a tad biased!
To compare these two on an artistic level is next to impossible, as their respective crafts are completely different. So i'm guessing you're asking from a strict monetary perspective; which print is going to be worth more at "said" given time?
That's tough question, and even tougher to answer! If Pejac's start is any indication, I'd put my money on his horse (or Scattercrow in this instance)! He's a brilliant artist, who has a good management team behind him, and is certainly headed in the right direction.
My advice would be to buy the one you really like, frame it up to conservative standards, and enjoy it on your wall! Can't go wrong with either
I've almost chimed in a few times, but seem to have always come to my senses. This time, not so much...blame the beer! In my opinion, Invader is now on another level - let's call it "banksy-esque"! Will his works be worth as much as Banksy's? Probably not, but who knows! The point is that he's made that leap, after a couple DECADES of work! Decades though, not just a few years like Pejac has, so let's keep that in mind. I can't really see his (Invader's) stock dropping, like I can't see Banksy's dropping, but stranger things HAVE happened Pejac is such an amazingly talented artist, and has an entire career ahead him! Full disclaimer: he's also one of my favourite artists, so I may be a tad biased! To compare these two on an artistic level is next to impossible, as their respective crafts are completely different. So i'm guessing you're asking from a strict monetary perspective; which print is going to be worth more at "said" given time? That's tough question, and even tougher to answer! If Pejac's start is any indication, I'd put my money on his horse (or Scattercrow in this instance)! He's a brilliant artist, who has a good management team behind him, and is certainly headed in the right direction. My advice would be to buy the one you really like, frame it up to conservative standards, and enjoy it on your wall! Can't go wrong with either
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dolamite24
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by dolamite24 on Sept 13, 2017 3:04:57 GMT 1, The Scattercrow is much more wall friendly with the netural colors but I'd pick the Invader LED over Pejac. Personally neither of these images are the top-tier images from both artists...
The Scattercrow is much more wall friendly with the netural colors but I'd pick the Invader LED over Pejac. Personally neither of these images are the top-tier images from both artists...
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pada1
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Invader LED or Pejac Scattercrow ?, by pada1 on Sept 13, 2017 4:57:58 GMT 1, On a side note, i wish Pejac was doing smaller work so we could enjoy his Art, not always as a centralnpiece of a room/house.
Invader's format is somehow easier to display.
On a side note, i wish Pejac was doing smaller work so we could enjoy his Art, not always as a centralnpiece of a room/house.
Invader's format is somehow easier to display.
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