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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 18, 2017 0:53:26 GMT 1, 9 hours and the paint is still wet?
These pieces continue to confuse!
9 hours and the paint is still wet?
These pieces continue to confuse!
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by met on Sept 18, 2017 2:58:39 GMT 1,  [...] What's the medium, look's like spraypaint and oil pastel for the crowns? lovely touch the hand finishing!! Can I also ask while I am here why no Signature on either piece?
1. Black acrylic background painted by brush, stencil spraypaint, and oil pastel for the Basquiat crowns.
2. Banksy hasn't signed or stencil-tagged an outdoor work for many years. An exception would be the Bristol primary school mural in 2016. But with that one, the signature (including the backward 'S') was part of the work itself, part of the joke.
Yet again, I spotted "Sir Banksy" being mentioned here half-jokingly. No doubt it's always intended as respectful, a way of expressing admiration for the artist. But frankly it's nonsensical. And arguably insulting.
Could any informed Banksy enthusiast imagine the artist being happy with such a title? Banksy the royalist, embracing the Establishment? Agreeing to kneel (even ironically), to stoop down on one fucking knee before a monarch to receive a knighthood? Sod the British honours system.
If, for whatever reason, Banksy craves an outward sign of prestige, he has it already. It's manifested by the fact there's no longer any need for him to add his name to street pieces.
He has reached the grail position most artists can only dream of: the ability to create work that is instantly and widely recognisable as his own, with or without a signature.
[...] What's the medium, look's like spraypaint and oil pastel for the crowns? lovely touch the hand finishing!! Can I also ask while I am here why no Signature on either piece? 1. Black acrylic background painted by brush, stencil spraypaint, and oil pastel for the Bas quiat crowns. 2. Ban ksy hasn't signed or stencil-tagged an outdoor work for many years. An exception would be the Bristol primary school mural in 2016. But with that one, the signature (including the backward 'S') was part of the work itself, part of the joke. Yet again, I spotted "Sir Banksy" being mentioned here half-jokingly. No doubt it's always intended as respectful, a way of expressing admiration for the artist. But frankly it's nonsensical. And arguably insulting. Could any informed Ban ksy enthusiast imagine the artist being happy with such a title? Ban ksy the royalist, embracing the Establishment? Agreeing to kneel (even ironically), to stoop down on one fu cking knee before a monarch to receive a knighthood? Sod the British honours system. If, for whatever reason, Ban ksy craves an outward sign of prestige, he has it already. It's manifested by the fact there's no longer any need for him to add his name to street pieces. He has reached the grail position most artists can only dream of: the ability to create work that is instantly and widely recognisable as his own, with or without a signature. |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by met on Sept 18, 2017 3:04:50 GMT 1, ... it would appear that the Ferris wheel image us on the opposite wall ...
Context shot:
... it would appear that the Ferris wheel image us on the opposite wall ... Context shot: |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 18, 2017 3:05:23 GMT 1, What's the medium, look's like spraypaint and oil pastel for the crowns? lovely touch the hand finishing!! Can I also ask while I am here why no Signature on either piece? 1. Black acrylic background painted by brush, stencil spraypaint, and oil pastel for the Bas quiat crowns. 2. Ban ksy hasn't signed or stencil-tagged an outdoor work for many years. An exception would be the Bristol primary school mural in 2016. But with that one, the signature (including the backward 'S') was part of the work itself, part of the joke. Yet again, I spotted "Sir Banksy" being mentioned here half-jokingly. No doubt it's always intended as respectful, a way of expressing admiration for the artist. But frankly it's nonsensical. And arguably insulting. Could any informed Ban ksy enthusiast imagine the artist being happy with such a title? Ban ksy the royalist, embracing the Establishment? Agreeing to kneel (even ironically), to stoop down on one fu cking knee before a monarch to receive a knighthood? Sod the British honours system. If, for whatever reason, Ban ksy craves an outward sign of prestige, he has it already. It's manifested by the fact there's no longer any need for him to add his name to street pieces. He has reached the grail position most artists can only dream of: the ability to create work that is instantly and widely recognisable as his own, with or without a signature.
This is incorrect. The only time work is known to be banksy is when it's posted as official on his instagram.
Banksy is a great artist but you've taken it too far with all the fluffy praise.
What's the medium, look's like spraypaint and oil pastel for the crowns? lovely touch the hand finishing!! Can I also ask while I am here why no Signature on either piece? 1. Black acrylic background painted by brush, stencil spraypaint, and oil pastel for the Bas quiat crowns. 2. Ban ksy hasn't signed or stencil-tagged an outdoor work for many years. An exception would be the Bristol primary school mural in 2016. But with that one, the signature (including the backward 'S') was part of the work itself, part of the joke. Yet again, I spotted "Sir Banksy" being mentioned here half-jokingly. No doubt it's always intended as respectful, a way of expressing admiration for the artist. But frankly it's nonsensical. And arguably insulting. Could any informed Ban ksy enthusiast imagine the artist being happy with such a title? Ban ksy the royalist, embracing the Establishment? Agreeing to kneel (even ironically), to stoop down on one fu cking knee before a monarch to receive a knighthood? Sod the British honours system. If, for whatever reason, Ban ksy craves an outward sign of prestige, he has it already. It's manifested by the fact there's no longer any need for him to add his name to street pieces. He has reached the grail position most artists can only dream of: the ability to create work that is instantly and widely recognisable as his own, with or without a signature. This is incorrect. The only time work is known to be banksy is when it's posted as official on his instagram. Banksy is a great artist but you've taken it too far with all the fluffy praise. |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by lee3 on Sept 18, 2017 3:07:48 GMT 1, 9 hours and the paint is still wet? These pieces continue to confuse!
9 hours and the paint is still wet? These pieces continue to confuse! I'd guess those crowns are oil stick in the same manner that Basquiat often painted them back in his day and if so, one will be able to rub that off the wall for some time. Banksy has utilized oil stick in the past with other street works too. He saluted similar logic with Choose Your Weapon where the dog walker is spray paint stencil while the dog was hand painted with sumi ink and dark acrylic just as Haring painted them in his day. |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by met on Sept 18, 2017 3:16:10 GMT 1, [...]  [...]
What I find regrettable is someone having felt the need to slightly alter the work — and potentially change its meaning — before 24 hours had even passed.
The shot below (without the red dot / bullet-hole forehead) was taken at around 5 p.m.
[...] [...] What I find regrettable is someone having felt the need to slightly alter the work — and potentially change its meaning — before 24 hours had even passed. The shot below (without the red dot / bullet-hole forehead) was taken at around 5 p.m. |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by overend on Sept 18, 2017 4:56:32 GMT 1, 9 hours and the paint is still wet? These pieces continue to confuse! I'd guess those crowns are oil stick in the same manner that Basquiat often painted them back in his day and if so, one will be able to rub that off the wall for some time. Banksy has utilized oil stick in the past with other street works too. He saluted similar logic with Choose Your Weapon where the dog walker is spray paint stencil and the dog is/was sumi ink just as Haring painted them in his day.
Thanks lee. If you are correct that does add another level to it IMO.
9 hours and the paint is still wet? These pieces continue to confuse! I'd guess those crowns are oil stick in the same manner that Basquiat often painted them back in his day and if so, one will be able to rub that off the wall for some time. Banksy has utilized oil stick in the past with other street works too. He saluted similar logic with Choose Your Weapon where the dog walker is spray paint stencil and the dog is/was sumi ink just as Haring painted them in his day. Thanks lee. If you are correct that does add another level to it IMO. |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by DashingD on Sept 18, 2017 6:54:26 GMT 1, There are already additions to the wall.
There are already additions to the wall.
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Phat Spider on Sept 18, 2017 6:59:57 GMT 1, There are already additions to the wall.
There are already additions to the wall. More than the red dot? |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by DashingD on Sept 18, 2017 7:11:18 GMT 1, The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630
The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630 |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Phat Spider on Sept 18, 2017 7:12:28 GMT 1, The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630
Thanks - interestingly there is no red dot on the forehead in your pic......
The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630 Thanks - interestingly there is no red dot on the forehead in your pic...... |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by DashingD on Sept 18, 2017 7:23:32 GMT 1, The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630 Thanks - interestingly there is no red dot on the forehead in your pic......
The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630 Thanks - interestingly there is no red dot on the forehead in your pic...... The red dot is still there, perhaps it's not visible on this image. |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 8:14:03 GMT 1, The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630
The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630 Oh No!!! It has begun..... |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 8:29:36 GMT 1, The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630 Oh No!!! It has begun.....
I really like the addition, made me smile, anyone know who did it?
The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630 Oh No!!! It has begun..... I really like the addition, made me smile, anyone know who did it? |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Dive Jedi on Sept 18, 2017 8:32:43 GMT 1, The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630 Oh No!!! It has begun.....
Looks like a Keith Haring / Basquiat mix style. Goes rather well with the ugly thing in the middle.
It's street art - every wall with a Banksy on it is sacred now ?
The piece itself is untouched, as far as I could tell. Just the addition to the left. Apologies for my delay, I had an issue attaching an image, taken at 0630 Oh No!!! It has begun..... I rather like it. Looks like a Keith Haring / Basquiat mix style. Goes rather well with the ugly thing in the middle. It's street art - every wall with a Banksy on it is sacred now ? |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Matt on Sept 18, 2017 9:15:44 GMT 1, Oh No!!! It has begun..... I rather like it. Looks like a Keith Haring / Basquiat mix style. Goes rather well with the ugly thing in the middle. It's street art - every wall with a Banksy on it is sacred now ?
I actually find the quite good, execution decent as far as "in the style of" goes
We all saw pictures of the original untouched piece, so now let it live !
Oh No!!! It has begun..... I rather like it. Looks like a Keith Haring / Basquiat mix style. Goes rather well with the ugly thing in the middle. It's street art - every wall with a Banksy on it is sacred now ? I actually find the quite good, execution decent as far as "in the style of" goes We all saw pictures of the original untouched piece, so now let it live ! |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 9:34:05 GMT 1, I rather like it. Looks like a Keith Haring / Basquiat mix style. Goes rather well with the ugly thing in the middle. It's street art - every wall with a Banksy on it is sacred now ? I actually find the quite good, execution decent as far as "in the style of" goes We all saw pictures of the original untouched piece, so now let it live !
I rather like it. Looks like a Keith Haring / Basquiat mix style. Goes rather well with the ugly thing in the middle. It's street art - every wall with a Banksy on it is sacred now ? I actually find the quite good, execution decent as far as "in the style of" goes We all saw pictures of the original untouched piece, so now let it live ! Fair enough |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by atomone on Sept 18, 2017 9:51:19 GMT 1, Just checked it out and looks good in the flesh and still in one piece! There was a City of London authoritive in high vis on the phone next to it so I can imagine they will be protected in due course?...
Just checked it out and looks good in the flesh and still in one piece! There was a City of London authoritive in high vis on the phone next to it so I can imagine they will be protected in due course?...
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by liddlejc on Sept 18, 2017 10:48:17 GMT 1, That on the left is by Danny Minnick who has just donated a piece for the art for arms fair alongside Banksy and many other artists
I was fortunate enough to aquire this piece he's an absolute top guy he took me and my girlfriend out the night of the auction and invited to his studio the following day his work is awesome check it out at the maddoxgallery.co.uk/artist/danny-minnick/
That on the left is by Danny Minnick who has just donated a piece for the art for arms fair alongside Banksy and many other artists I was fortunate enough to aquire this piece he's an absolute top guy he took me and my girlfriend out the night of the auction and invited to his studio the following day his work is awesome check it out at the maddoxgallery.co.uk/artist/danny-minnick/ |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Monkey Say Monkey Do on Sept 18, 2017 10:49:00 GMT 1, thanks lee3 for the info ..
Now showing on Banksy website ...
thanks lee3 for the info ..
Now showing on Banksy website ...
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Coach on Sept 18, 2017 11:26:22 GMT 1, 9 hours and the paint is still wet? These pieces continue to confuse! I'd guess those crowns are oil stick in the same manner that Basquiat often painted them back in his day and if so, one will be able to rub that off the wall for some time. Banksy has utilized oil stick in the past with other street works too. He saluted similar logic with Choose Your Weapon where the dog walker is spray paint stencil while the dog was hand painted with sumi ink and dark acrylic just as Haring painted them in his day.
As ever, hugely knowledgeable, Lee, and very interesting. Thank you.
9 hours and the paint is still wet? These pieces continue to confuse! I'd guess those crowns are oil stick in the same manner that Basquiat often painted them back in his day and if so, one will be able to rub that off the wall for some time. Banksy has utilized oil stick in the past with other street works too. He saluted similar logic with Choose Your Weapon where the dog walker is spray paint stencil while the dog was hand painted with sumi ink and dark acrylic just as Haring painted them in his day. As ever, hugely knowledgeable, Lee, and very interesting. Thank you. |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Sliding on the Walls on Sept 18, 2017 12:37:22 GMT 1, I love how despite Banksy's anti-establishment nature, he still embraces diversity by making one of the police officers a female. Who's to say Banksy himself didn't come back and put a dot in the head of the female police officer, thus also encompassing cultural diversity?
I love how despite Banksy's anti-establishment nature, he still embraces diversity by making one of the police officers a female. Who's to say Banksy himself didn't come back and put a dot in the head of the female police officer, thus also encompassing cultural diversity?
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by jayTown on Sept 18, 2017 12:53:53 GMT 1, I've just been down and had a look. They look great. Easy to forget that this is where the pieces are most impactful when we spend 99.9% of the time talking about print prices.
I've just been down and had a look. They look great. Easy to forget that this is where the pieces are most impactful when we spend 99.9% of the time talking about print prices.
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 18, 2017 13:03:27 GMT 1, I quite like the crown Ferris wheel one.
I still don't get the search one. Seems repetitive and not quite clear on meaning or connection.
Is this corner busy? Would be interesting to know the logistics of two works on opposite walls. If it's a somewhat populated area I'd assume you'd need to work on both at the same time no?
I quite like the crown Ferris wheel one.
I still don't get the search one. Seems repetitive and not quite clear on meaning or connection.
Is this corner busy? Would be interesting to know the logistics of two works on opposite walls. If it's a somewhat populated area I'd assume you'd need to work on both at the same time no?
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by JW on Sept 18, 2017 14:05:03 GMT 1, I quite like the crown Ferris wheel one. I still don't get the search one. Seems repetitive and not quite clear on meaning or connection. Is this corner busy? Would be interesting to know the logistics of two works on opposite walls. If it's a somewhat populated area I'd assume you'd need to work on both at the same time no?
Just checked it out. The Ferris Wheel was not attracting as much attention as the portrait, but it is very nice.
Beech St gets a bit of traffic, but Golden Lane isn't very busy. I think people tend to avoid walking through the area in the middle of the night as it's a bit dingy.
I quite like the crown Ferris wheel one. I still don't get the search one. Seems repetitive and not quite clear on meaning or connection. Is this corner busy? Would be interesting to know the logistics of two works on opposite walls. If it's a somewhat populated area I'd assume you'd need to work on both at the same time no? Just checked it out. The Ferris Wheel was not attracting as much attention as the portrait, but it is very nice. Beech St gets a bit of traffic, but Golden Lane isn't very busy. I think people tend to avoid walking through the area in the middle of the night as it's a bit dingy. |
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 14:23:08 GMT 1, I do feel an urge to respray her hand. ocd.
I do feel an urge to respray her hand. ocd.
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Dibbs 45 on Sept 18, 2017 17:50:42 GMT 1, Just been down there. Lovely work by Mr B. Security stated that they didn't know what is going to happen to the pieces. So who knows.
This for me is classic banksy. Crude stencils that are recognisable in his work and reaching the kind of recognition that doesn't warrant a signature ( as someone mentioned). It would be great if it stays without someone tagging it. But let's face it; chances are this isn't going to happen unless security are there 24/7.
Just been down there. Lovely work by Mr B. Security stated that they didn't know what is going to happen to the pieces. So who knows.
This for me is classic banksy. Crude stencils that are recognisable in his work and reaching the kind of recognition that doesn't warrant a signature ( as someone mentioned). It would be great if it stays without someone tagging it. But let's face it; chances are this isn't going to happen unless security are there 24/7.
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by iamzero on Sept 18, 2017 19:14:28 GMT 1, Security clearly aren't there 24/7 or it wouldn't have got painted... unless prearranged as hype for the show? Just a thought.
Security clearly aren't there 24/7 or it wouldn't have got painted... unless prearranged as hype for the show? Just a thought.
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by John The Badgers on Sept 18, 2017 19:47:58 GMT 1, Appreciate all the pictures and information.
Appreciate all the pictures and information.
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Banksy, Basquiat and the Barbican, by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 3:00:43 GMT 1, Jah.
Jah.
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