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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by bbperez1 on Jan 28, 2018 8:44:57 GMT 1, But in that case it’ll be 5-10k more once COA are in hand. Correct. Just a lot less trouble and heartache if the via travels with the print for all concerned
I’m not a buyer but I anticipate seeing where the prices fall now and once the COA come in. I had a discussion with a forum member when these were announced and I estimated they’d land in the range of $25-35k
But in that case it’ll be 5-10k more once COA are in hand. Correct. Just a lot less trouble and heartache if the via travels with the print for all concerned I’m not a buyer but I anticipate seeing where the prices fall now and once the COA come in. I had a discussion with a forum member when these were announced and I estimated they’d land in the range of $25-35k |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Unica on Jan 28, 2018 9:03:17 GMT 1, I understand where you are coming from, I've been on the other side many times. but I'm also trying to be transparent as possible. The Sale ends prints don't have COA's yet, but considering all the backup and support documents I'm providing, it's pretty clear to even the dogs on the street that the print and I are legit. I've put myself in potential buyers shoes and asked myself what would reassure me. I'm even providing the original tubing with it's lovely calligraphy handwritten address. (Anyone who has a print will know what I'm talking about) I'm willing to provide copies of my own personal documents if it gives piece of mind. You can have my shoe size if it helps! + I'm willing to meet people within reason. Sure if someone is really serious about buying they're welcome to come to my home for a cup of tea and view the print. I'd even break out the custard creams. (bourbon fans are not welcome in my home) At the end of the day. I'm a fan and collector just like everyone else. I got lucky. I got REALLY lucky. I posted it here knowing I'd eats**t from a few people because I know for the most part it's genuine collectors here. If I really wanted to flip it fast there are other easier avenues I could take. But if being branded a flipper means I can give my family a better life than fine. I'm a flipper. As other like minded people have stated here, some things are more important than art.. not a lot of things mind you, but some things. Peace You don't owe anyone an explanation. But you have articulated your position with reason and common sense. POW got lucky to choose you as a winner. Best of luck with your sale and move.
I understand where you are coming from, I've been on the other side many times. but I'm also trying to be transparent as possible. The Sale ends prints don't have COA's yet, but considering all the backup and support documents I'm providing, it's pretty clear to even the dogs on the street that the print and I are legit. I've put myself in potential buyers shoes and asked myself what would reassure me. I'm even providing the original tubing with it's lovely calligraphy handwritten address. (Anyone who has a print will know what I'm talking about) I'm willing to provide copies of my own personal documents if it gives piece of mind. You can have my shoe size if it helps! + I'm willing to meet people within reason. Sure if someone is really serious about buying they're welcome to come to my home for a cup of tea and view the print. I'd even break out the custard creams. (bourbon fans are not welcome in my home) At the end of the day. I'm a fan and collector just like everyone else. I got lucky. I got REALLY lucky. I posted it here knowing I'd eats**t from a few people because I know for the most part it's genuine collectors here. If I really wanted to flip it fast there are other easier avenues I could take. But if being branded a flipper means I can give my family a better life than fine. I'm a flipper. As other like minded people have stated here, some things are more important than art.. not a lot of things mind you, but some things. Peace You don't owe anyone an explanation. But you have articulated your position with reason and common sense. POW got lucky to choose you as a winner. Best of luck with your sale and move. Not really sure why you think POW got lucky since the print is being flipped less than two months later. But can certainly understand the desire for the winner to sell and pay for his move, I just moved countries myself and its not only expensive but stressful so I wish him luck. I wasn't so lucky but would like to buy a Sales End if a seller would guarantee my money back by a certain date if they couldn't secure one. I'd imagine its much easier for the original buyer to get the COA than a new buyer. Just so many variables at play regarding the COA, so I'll probably wait until they are issued but I expect by that point they will be priced the same as other signed prints and then I'm not sure it this would be my pick. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 11:35:36 GMT 1, You don't owe anyone an explanation. But you have articulated your position with reason and common sense. POW got lucky to choose you as a winner. Best of luck with your sale and move. Not really sure why you think POW got lucky since the print is being flipped less than two months later. But can certainly understand the desire for the winner to sell and pay for his move, I just moved countries myself and its not only expensive but stressful so I wish him luck. I wasn't so lucky but would like to buy a Sales End if a seller would guarantee my money back by a certain date if they couldn't secure one. I'd imagine its much easier for the original buyer to get the COA than a new buyer. Just so many variables at play regarding the COA, so I'll probably wait until they are issued but I expect by that point they will be priced the same as other signed prints and then I'm not sure it this would be my pick.
I am trying to imagine what would happen to the Banksy market if COAs were refused to 2nd owners
It was a lottery, widely spread, and didn't just reach collectors but friends of them, family of them, people who know fuck all about these stupid things we collect. It was on instagram, facebook etc, so the cross fertilisation was pretty good
People would have said, enter this lottery it will cost you £500 and you'll get a minimum of £10k back
Most people who know would have entered
I think they'd be fucked if they didn't issue the COAs if they are furnished with all the initial owners info
emails, receipts Pcs of print etc
I suppose it all depends on how high or low people's risk level is as to whether they buy them or not
You don't owe anyone an explanation. But you have articulated your position with reason and common sense. POW got lucky to choose you as a winner. Best of luck with your sale and move. Not really sure why you think POW got lucky since the print is being flipped less than two months later. But can certainly understand the desire for the winner to sell and pay for his move, I just moved countries myself and its not only expensive but stressful so I wish him luck. I wasn't so lucky but would like to buy a Sales End if a seller would guarantee my money back by a certain date if they couldn't secure one. I'd imagine its much easier for the original buyer to get the COA than a new buyer. Just so many variables at play regarding the COA, so I'll probably wait until they are issued but I expect by that point they will be priced the same as other signed prints and then I'm not sure it this would be my pick. I am trying to imagine what would happen to the Banksy market if COAs were refused to 2nd owners It was a lottery, widely spread, and didn't just reach collectors but friends of them, family of them, people who know fuck all about these stupid things we collect. It was on instagram, facebook etc, so the cross fertilisation was pretty good People would have said, enter this lottery it will cost you £500 and you'll get a minimum of £10k back Most people who know would have entered I think they'd be fucked if they didn't issue the COAs if they are furnished with all the initial owners info emails, receipts Pcs of print etc I suppose it all depends on how high or low people's risk level is as to whether they buy them or not |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Jan 28, 2018 12:07:13 GMT 1, Maybe uk buyers put off as no Coa issued until next year and your moving abroad ?
So if selling a print and new address abroad will delay the already long process of getting a coa?
Maybe uk buyers put off as no Coa issued until next year and your moving abroad ?
So if selling a print and new address abroad will delay the already long process of getting a coa?
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by nex on Jan 28, 2018 12:09:51 GMT 1, As long as all the paperwork is in place and the seller is trustworthy, there’s no reason to believe a coa won’t be issued to whoever buys.
As long as all the paperwork is in place and the seller is trustworthy, there’s no reason to believe a coa won’t be issued to whoever buys.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Jan 28, 2018 16:02:23 GMT 1, So in a years time a coa would add 5-15k extra ?
Could sell the coa , problem solved 🙄😉😂
So in a years time a coa would add 5-15k extra ?
Could sell the coa , problem solved 🙄😉😂
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Poster Bob on Jan 28, 2018 16:33:07 GMT 1, POW have confirmed that they will issue a COA to any buyer no matter how long the chain of sales is. Buy with confidence!
As long as all the paperwork is in place and the seller is trustworthy, there’s no reason to believe a coa won’t be issued to whoever buys.
POW have confirmed that they will issue a COA to any buyer no matter how long the chain of sales is. Buy with confidence! As long as all the paperwork is in place and the seller is trustworthy, there’s no reason to believe a coa won’t be issued to whoever buys. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Jan 28, 2018 16:44:55 GMT 1, POW have confirmed that they will issue a COA to any buyer no matter how long the chain of sales is. Buy with confidence! As long as all the paperwork is in place and the seller is trustworthy, there’s no reason to believe a coa won’t be issued to whoever buys.
If that’s the case those selling now should sell for more as hardly any listings
Most will be listing when the coa comes through so the market will have many for sale
Banksy is better than a.i.m shares
POW have confirmed that they will issue a COA to any buyer no matter how long the chain of sales is. Buy with confidence! As long as all the paperwork is in place and the seller is trustworthy, there’s no reason to believe a coa won’t be issued to whoever buys. If that’s the case those selling now should sell for more as hardly any listings Most will be listing when the coa comes through so the market will have many for sale Banksy is better than a.i.m shares |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by jeheh on Jan 28, 2018 16:48:56 GMT 1, Like so many others, what a disappointing thread. So many tire kickers on their soap boxes. There are so few participants in this forum that can afford 25k gbp. and far fewer that have the discretionary funds to park it on their wall. If you are crying about the COA, you just want it as insurance to have an easier time to flip the piece at some point later. Because there are so many flippers, the COA adds value in the short term. In 50 years, assuming Banksy is still as relevant (no doubt so), they’re will be ample people to authenticate it.
Making a better life for your family is about as real as it gets in terms of motivation to sell off the material things that will never bring you the same return of happiness. But for the love of god, if you are asking for that kind of money, take 5 minutes and post a picture of the piece, especially since it’s framed and some other relevant information to allay someone concerns that they aren’t going to get scammed...
Like so many others, what a disappointing thread. So many tire kickers on their soap boxes. There are so few participants in this forum that can afford 25k gbp. and far fewer that have the discretionary funds to park it on their wall. If you are crying about the COA, you just want it as insurance to have an easier time to flip the piece at some point later. Because there are so many flippers, the COA adds value in the short term. In 50 years, assuming Banksy is still as relevant (no doubt so), they’re will be ample people to authenticate it.
Making a better life for your family is about as real as it gets in terms of motivation to sell off the material things that will never bring you the same return of happiness. But for the love of god, if you are asking for that kind of money, take 5 minutes and post a picture of the piece, especially since it’s framed and some other relevant information to allay someone concerns that they aren’t going to get scammed...
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Jan 28, 2018 20:08:11 GMT 1, No prices posted so far
The 3 sold so far on eBay £15k and two at £18k if completed
No prices posted so far
The 3 sold so far on eBay £15k and two at £18k if completed
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Jan 31, 2018 2:30:45 GMT 1, How many different styles of signature does banksy have
The latest look very different , been comparing to other signed prints
How many different styles of signature does banksy have
The latest look very different , been comparing to other signed prints
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by mint on Jan 31, 2018 2:38:10 GMT 1, Thats what happens when a handful of people are authorized to sign.
Happened with Warhol etc....
Thats what happens when a handful of people are authorized to sign.
Happened with Warhol etc....
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Laugh Now 10 on Jan 31, 2018 2:52:07 GMT 1, Look at your own signature from 10-15 years ago. It looks different than your your signature from 10-15 days ago. I guarantee it  but yes, I’d be shocked (pleasantly surprised?) if it could be proven that one lone person signed each and every signed Banksy print...but who knows?
Look at your own signature from 10-15 years ago. It looks different than your your signature from 10-15 days ago. I guarantee it but yes, I’d be shocked (pleasantly surprised?) if it could be proven that one lone person signed each and every signed Banksy print...but who knows? |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Pipes on Jan 31, 2018 4:18:10 GMT 1, His signature has clearly evolved from being more “spikey” early days to more “rounded”. That style on Sale ends is on other prints.
His signature has clearly evolved from being more “spikey” early days to more “rounded”. That style on Sale ends is on other prints.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Jan 31, 2018 6:08:08 GMT 1, Personally I would wait for coa to be issued
Signature more easier to be forged , no confirmation of if the print is real until a year later , not the most technical print to be copied ?
Personally I would wait for coa to be issued
Signature more easier to be forged , no confirmation of if the print is real until a year later , not the most technical print to be copied ?
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Moniker Projects on Jan 31, 2018 8:29:55 GMT 1, I was lucky enough to win one in the lottery (part of my personal collection, not for sale) and the signature is noticeably different to others that I've seen posted up here for the same print.
I was lucky enough to win one in the lottery (part of my personal collection, not for sale) and the signature is noticeably different to others that I've seen posted up here for the same print.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Chris JL on Jan 31, 2018 8:32:31 GMT 1, Make sure they have all the POW paperwork. Might also want to write a contract about the future COA.
Make sure they have all the POW paperwork. Might also want to write a contract about the future COA.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by nex on Jan 31, 2018 8:50:16 GMT 1, Make sure they have all the POW paperwork. Might also want to write a contract about the future COA.
There’s no need for a contract , you can apply yourself for a coa.
Make sure they have all the POW paperwork. Might also want to write a contract about the future COA. There’s no need for a contract , you can apply yourself for a coa. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Chris JL on Jan 31, 2018 8:51:22 GMT 1, Make sure they have all the POW paperwork. Might also want to write a contract about the future COA. There’s no need for a contract , you can apply yourself for a coa.
Almost surely. But there is always that tiny probability ....
Make sure they have all the POW paperwork. Might also want to write a contract about the future COA. There’s no need for a contract , you can apply yourself for a coa. Almost surely. But there is always that tiny probability .... |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by nex on Jan 31, 2018 8:52:11 GMT 1, Personally I would wait for coa to be issued Signature more easier to be forged , no confirmation of if the print is real until a year later , not the most technical print to be copied ?
If you have all the correct paper work from the buyer and decent enough pics you can easily determine authenticity and get a bargain prior to COAs being issued ...
Personally I would wait for coa to be issued Signature more easier to be forged , no confirmation of if the print is real until a year later , not the most technical print to be copied ? If you have all the correct paper work from the buyer and decent enough pics you can easily determine authenticity and get a bargain prior to COAs being issued ... |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by nex on Jan 31, 2018 8:53:58 GMT 1, There’s no need for a contract , you can apply yourself for a coa. Almost surely. But there is always that tiny probability ....
Pow wouldn’t have altered the wording for the grappling hook if there was any chance
There’s no need for a contract , you can apply yourself for a coa. Almost surely. But there is always that tiny probability .... Pow wouldn’t have altered the wording for the grappling hook if there was any chance |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Jan 31, 2018 16:47:43 GMT 1, Personally I would wait for coa to be issued Signature more easier to be forged , no confirmation of if the print is real until a year later , not the most technical print to be copied ? If you have all the correct paper work from the buyer and decent enough pics you can easily determine authenticity and get a bargain prior to COAs being issued ...
How do you know what original paperwork is?
Paper trails were false when two guys were selling banksys prints years ago?
If you have nothing to compare to? Your stuck
Looking at v2 more rounded / precise and easier to copy
Probably done this way so staff can sign the prints
Earlier signed prints , pointy and rushed ,
Personally I would wait for coa to be issued Signature more easier to be forged , no confirmation of if the print is real until a year later , not the most technical print to be copied ? If you have all the correct paper work from the buyer and decent enough pics you can easily determine authenticity and get a bargain prior to COAs being issued ... How do you know what original paperwork is? Paper trails were false when two guys were selling banksys prints years ago? If you have nothing to compare to? Your stuck Looking at v2 more rounded / precise and easier to copy Probably done this way so staff can sign the prints Earlier signed prints , pointy and rushed , |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Happy Shopper on Feb 6, 2018 12:08:32 GMT 1, I've received close to 100 private messages regarding the print and I'd say only 2 maybe 3 people were in any way serious about buying the print.
Probably because you're asking for more than this print has previously sold for, and telling people you're in no hurry.
Without the COA you can't really expect people to rush to buy, especially when they could buy a different Banksy print with COA for a similar amount.
People are looking to pick these up at a discount at the moment.
Just my thoughts on it.
I've received close to 100 private messages regarding the print and I'd say only 2 maybe 3 people were in any way serious about buying the print. Probably because you're asking for more than this print has previously sold for, and telling people you're in no hurry. Without the COA you can't really expect people to rush to buy, especially when they could buy a different Banksy print with COA for a similar amount. People are looking to pick these up at a discount at the moment. Just my thoughts on it. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 12:21:38 GMT 1, If priced right this would sell. I am interested without a COA as long as the relevant paperwork is included, emails etc, but I value this at between 15k - 18k as per the sales on eBay. Do I wanna buy to flip, no, will I sell or trade in the future, I don't know, the truth is these don't have COAs yet, Caveat emptor.
If priced right this would sell. I am interested without a COA as long as the relevant paperwork is included, emails etc, but I value this at between 15k - 18k as per the sales on eBay. Do I wanna buy to flip, no, will I sell or trade in the future, I don't know, the truth is these don't have COAs yet, Caveat emptor.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by 68comeback on Feb 6, 2018 12:35:55 GMT 1, If priced right this would sell. I am interested without a COA as long as the relevant paperwork is included, emails etc, but I value this at between 15k - 18k as per the sales on eBay. Do I wanna buy to flip, no, will I sell or trade in the future, I don't know, the truth is these don't have COAs yet, Caveat emptor.
But Sure, it's not like I'm twisting anyone's arm.
+ yes the vast majority of inquires have been time wasters and tire kickers. Offers between £5k - 8k or exchange for damaged prints is time wasting IMO.
If priced right this would sell. I am interested without a COA as long as the relevant paperwork is included, emails etc, but I value this at between 15k - 18k as per the sales on eBay. Do I wanna buy to flip, no, will I sell or trade in the future, I don't know, the truth is these don't have COAs yet, Caveat emptor. I have stated that everything you'll listed above would be included in the sale. Our values differ by a very small number. But Sure, it's not like I'm twisting anyone's arm. + yes the vast majority of inquires have been time wasters and tire kickers. Offers between £5k - 8k or exchange for damaged prints is time wasting IMO. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Carl Cashman on Feb 6, 2018 12:41:27 GMT 1, Im happy to pay 15k
Im happy to pay 15k
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Nuno on Feb 6, 2018 12:57:24 GMT 1,
Aren’t you the lucky owner of one already Carl?
Aren’t you the lucky owner of one already Carl? |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Carl Cashman on Feb 6, 2018 13:03:51 GMT 1, Aren’t you the lucky owner of one already Carl?
Aren’t you the lucky owner of one already Carl? Yep, but at least this way il be able to keep one when it comes to house deposit time |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by lv90210 on Feb 6, 2018 13:12:23 GMT 1, Buying them at 15k would be all too easy, think you need to pay at least 20k pounds.
Buying them at 15k would be all too easy, think you need to pay at least 20k pounds.
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but yes, I’d be shocked (pleasantly surprised?) if it could be proven that one lone person signed each and every signed Banksy print...but who knows? 
