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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by wisky on Mar 18, 2017 9:32:45 GMT 1, There has always been - and will always be - persecution in the world, it's called 'natural selection' and has been going on since day dot, who wiped out neandrethals...... The homo-sapians?
What about the Aztecs, the Egyptians, the Vikings, the Saxons or the Romans...... were they persecutors or persecuted??
The answer is that they were BOTH, as the more powerful will persecute the weak for their own interests and needs, it's not nice, it's evolution!!
There has always been - and will always be - persecution in the world, it's called 'natural selection' and has been going on since day dot, who wiped out neandrethals...... The homo-sapians?
What about the Aztecs, the Egyptians, the Vikings, the Saxons or the Romans...... were they persecutors or persecuted??
The answer is that they were BOTH, as the more powerful will persecute the weak for their own interests and needs, it's not nice, it's evolution!!
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Reader on Mar 18, 2017 10:22:22 GMT 1, Fwiw, I also think that the tittle of this thread is disengenous. I don't for one minute think that this was "an honest question". I have no doubt that you gently introduced an issue that you had very strong feeling about, with the intention of rattling a few cages. Poor form. Im still hoping 1 person can answer my very honest question that is being avoided like the plague
For anyone else interested in why you should support Palestinian's rights and boycott Israel, the link below gives a good account of the reasons to do so. Banksy withdrew the invitation to Fatboy Slim recently based on Slim's agent booking him into a Tel Aviv gig the followig day, allegedly.
artistsforpalestine.org.uk/category/culture-wars/
for the OP, a guide to follow
Fwiw, I also think that the tittle of this thread is disengenous. I don't for one minute think that this was "an honest question". I have no doubt that you gently introduced an issue that you had very strong feeling about, with the intention of rattling a few cages. Poor form. Im still hoping 1 person can answer my very honest question that is being avoided like the plague It's been answered, you're just not listening, you seem to have made up your mind already so it's a little disingenious to say people are avoiding it. For anyone else interested in why you should support Palestinian's rights and boycott Israel, the link below gives a good account of the reasons to do so. Banksy withdrew the invitation to Fatboy Slim recently based on Slim's agent booking him into a Tel Aviv gig the followig day, allegedly. artistsforpalestine.org.uk/category/culture-wars/for the OP, a guide to follow |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by erik on Mar 18, 2017 11:10:22 GMT 1, Can't believe I just read that - natural selection and evolution. Wow!
Can't believe I just read that - natural selection and evolution. Wow!
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Reader on Mar 18, 2017 11:12:16 GMT 1, Can't believe I just read that - natural selection and evolution. Wow!
Can't believe I just read that - natural selection and evolution. Wow! Keyboard warrior Master Race ..lol |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Dr Plip on Mar 18, 2017 12:24:05 GMT 1, It's been a few years since I've read On The Origin Of Species, but I'm pretty sure this isn't evolution.
It's been a few years since I've read On The Origin Of Species, but I'm pretty sure this isn't evolution.
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by 11 on Mar 18, 2017 12:47:01 GMT 1, Let's keep this clean. Not going down rabbit hole. Why this conflict when it's clearly just low hanging fruit and not as dire as the situations of no joke billions of other humans Artists comment on many many many different situations. Banksy has discussed Africa on numerous occasions. Why does he do more with this? Perhaps he has more affinity with it? How you can call this low hanging fruit as if the worlds eyes are constantly on it, is laughable.
Having been there my first impression was to very sympathetic to Palestine and judgemental of Israel. I realised that was wrong as I had no in-depth knowledge of the history etc
What was very apparent is that one nation has completely imprisoned another and there is no justification for that.
I find it interesting to hear Israel wants a 2 state solution because I saw the Jewish settlements still being built in occupied territories - an act that Israel were told was illegal In international law. Along with policing a wall that is also deemed illegal in international law. And using weapons against non-combatants that's also illegal.
Israel took a lot of land from its neighbours and had never returned it. They allowed small isolated areas to be considered Palestinian and then took and kept the rest - how can a nation exist in 2 parts witout even the freedom to move between them.
I spoke to a 22 year old Palestinian lady that had never been to the beach. They applied once but were denied
Applied for permission to go to the beach in what is supposed to be their own country (or state)
It is David v Goliath. Whatever the fundamental issues are Israel cannot say they are for peace, co-existence or any of the other pacitfying sounds they make when they continue to oppress another state in such a manner.
Yes the Jews have been the most persecuted race on earth, but does that really give them the right to force another state to live under what effectively amounts to apartheid. Is it ok to do this just because they were once persecuted themselves
It doesn't matter what the issues are, there are completely innocent families, probably more than a million that have lost everything just so Israel can continue building its settlements in occupied territory.
So what has Israel done to actually achieve peace - from what I've seen they really don't care. They pay lip service to the UN with cheap words and then continue with their own persecution and oppression of another country. It's not about right or wrong, it's about inequality and oppression of one state upon another.
Something very shady and nasty about the OP and the way he's just trying to cause some issue, there was also a dud known as saucy jack that reminds me of the OP's style. As usual some will coming running to fire his gun.
Blanksly , you and you're lefty comment arguments are so childishly ridiculous....but they actually define you now.
Let's keep this clean. Not going down rabbit hole. Why this conflict when it's clearly just low hanging fruit and not as dire as the situations of no joke billions of other humans Artists comment on many many many different situations. Banksy has discussed Africa on numerous occasions. Why does he do more with this? Perhaps he has more affinity with it? How you can call this low hanging fruit as if the worlds eyes are constantly on it, is laughable. Having been there my first impression was to very sympathetic to Palestine and judgemental of Israel. I realised that was wrong as I had no in-depth knowledge of the history etc What was very apparent is that one nation has completely imprisoned another and there is no justification for that. I find it interesting to hear Israel wants a 2 state solution because I saw the Jewish settlements still being built in occupied territories - an act that Israel were told was illegal In international law. Along with policing a wall that is also deemed illegal in international law. And using weapons against non-combatants that's also illegal. Israel took a lot of land from its neighbours and had never returned it. They allowed small isolated areas to be considered Palestinian and then took and kept the rest - how can a nation exist in 2 parts witout even the freedom to move between them. I spoke to a 22 year old Palestinian lady that had never been to the beach. They applied once but were denied Applied for permission to go to the beach in what is supposed to be their own country (or state) It is David v Goliath. Whatever the fundamental issues are Israel cannot say they are for peace, co-existence or any of the other pacitfying sounds they make when they continue to oppress another state in such a manner. Yes the Jews have been the most persecuted race on earth, but does that really give them the right to force another state to live under what effectively amounts to apartheid. Is it ok to do this just because they were once persecuted themselves It doesn't matter what the issues are, there are completely innocent families, probably more than a million that have lost everything just so Israel can continue building its settlements in occupied territory. So what has Israel done to actually achieve peace - from what I've seen they really don't care. They pay lip service to the UN with cheap words and then continue with their own persecution and oppression of another country. It's not about right or wrong, it's about inequality and oppression of one state upon another. Something very shady and nasty about the OP and the way he's just trying to cause some issue, there was also a dud known as saucy jack that reminds me of the OP's style. As usual some will coming running to fire his gun. Blanksly , you and you're lefty comment arguments are so childishly ridiculous....but they actually define you now. |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 14:20:55 GMT 1, There has always been - and will always be - persecution in the world, it's called 'natural selection' and has been going on since day dot, who wiped out neandrethals...... The homo-sapians? What about the Aztecs, the Egyptians, the Vikings, the Saxons or the Romans...... were they persecutors or persecuted?? The answer is that they were BOTH, as the more powerful will persecute the weak for their own interests and needs, it's not nice, it's evolution!!
There has always been - and will always be - persecution in the world, it's called 'natural selection' and has been going on since day dot, who wiped out neandrethals...... The homo-sapians? What about the Aztecs, the Egyptians, the Vikings, the Saxons or the Romans...... were they persecutors or persecuted?? The answer is that they were BOTH, as the more powerful will persecute the weak for their own interests and needs, it's not nice, it's evolution!! and there's me thinking it was greed corruption, the arms trade and international banking and one or two other unmentionables |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 18, 2017 14:21:08 GMT 1, It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no?
FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly.
It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no?
FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly.
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by nobokov on Mar 18, 2017 15:58:04 GMT 1, It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly.
Your question assumes that 9 out of 10 times artists choose to create art about this subject. But is that true? Can you cite more examples of artists and pieces discussing this issue?
It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly. Your question assumes that 9 out of 10 times artists choose to create art about this subject. But is that true? Can you cite more examples of artists and pieces discussing this issue? |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Poster Bob on Mar 18, 2017 15:58:25 GMT 1, Palestine is heralded as a worthy cause by unconnected, British artists because liberals place Muslims at the top of the victimisation hierarchy; thus it has become the cause celebre of the left.
It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly.
Palestine is heralded as a worthy cause by unconnected, British artists because liberals place Muslims at the top of the victimisation hierarchy; thus it has become the cause celebre of the left. It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly. |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 18, 2017 16:10:45 GMT 1, It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly. Your question assumes that 9 out of 10 times artists choose to create art about this subject. But is that true? Can you cite more examples of artists and pieces discussing this issue?
No. The point is 9 out of 10 times (does it matter if it's 8/10?) street artists get involved in human rights issues they pick this one. And my point is they do this because of the financial gain and easy access. It's easy. Like is said, they fly Ba to tlv, eat some hummus and hit the club and beach. They don't spend time on causes that are not profitable. Repub of central Africa not paying 6 figueres to paint (censored) murals and taking them out for nobulike the benevolent UAE does.
I think my observations are not commonly held and I do appreciate people's thoughts and inputs. I respect all your ideas. It's a healthy thing to discuss arts part in this.
It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly. Your question assumes that 9 out of 10 times artists choose to create art about this subject. But is that true? Can you cite more examples of artists and pieces discussing this issue? No. The point is 9 out of 10 times (does it matter if it's 8/10?) street artists get involved in human rights issues they pick this one. And my point is they do this because of the financial gain and easy access. It's easy. Like is said, they fly Ba to tlv, eat some hummus and hit the club and beach. They don't spend time on causes that are not profitable. Repub of central Africa not paying 6 figueres to paint (censored) murals and taking them out for nobulike the benevolent UAE does. I think my observations are not commonly held and I do appreciate people's thoughts and inputs. I respect all your ideas. It's a healthy thing to discuss arts part in this. |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 18, 2017 16:14:04 GMT 1, Palestine is heralded as a worthy cause by unconnected, British artists because liberals place Muslims at the top of the victimisation hierarchy; thus it has become the cause celebre of the left. It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly.
I agree with one aspect of this, but a key detail is missing. Muslim women are the most abused group in the world. Let's all try sitting our lives in 120degree sun with a black cloak on. Metal cage over face.
Palestine is heralded as a worthy cause by unconnected, British artists because liberals place Muslims at the top of the victimisation hierarchy; thus it has become the cause celebre of the left. It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly. I agree with one aspect of this, but a key detail is missing. Muslim women are the most abused group in the world. Let's all try sitting our lives in 120degree sun with a black cloak on. Metal cage over face. |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Dr Plip on Mar 18, 2017 16:24:31 GMT 1, I think that many artists are quite open and vocal about the reasons why they support the people of Palestine. It's up to others to decide whether they agree with or believe those reasons. I doubt that any opinions will be changed here.
Where some people see compassion, others will see opportunism.
I think that many artists are quite open and vocal about the reasons why they support the people of Palestine. It's up to others to decide whether they agree with or believe those reasons. I doubt that any opinions will be changed here.
Where some people see compassion, others will see opportunism.
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by nobokov on Mar 18, 2017 16:28:43 GMT 1, It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly.
So, as a result the masses, artists included, who rely on the mainstream media for its education learn about only what's readily available to them. If American artists aren't properly informed about the world, and only receive a small amount of information which is skewed towards US interests, then they will create art based on their limited knowledge. I'd assume that artists are usually on the liberal side and would gravitate towards sympathy for the down-trodden and oppressed. At this time, Palestinians are the ones being oppressed on a daily basis, so this could be the reason that they have chosen to create pro-Palestinian art.
Is it a cash-grab? I don't believe so, unless the individual artists are completely aware of the other atrocities and purposely decide to choose the subject matter which they think would have the most marketability. Truth is, I have no idea what each artist's intent is and how they decide to create the art they create. And I doubt any other person on this forum does either, unless have personally discussed the decision process with the 9 out of 10 artists that you speak of. So your honest question really can't be answered fully, right?
It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly. I don't know where you're based, but in the US, the mainstream media does not cover any atrocities or genocidal acts throughout the world unless they can get ratings. The US Government also provides a large amount of funding to Israel to support the US hegemony with its strategic military installations in the area. Israel/Palestine relations is covered to a certain extent in the media, since Israel is a US ally. The coverage usually is skewed toward pro-Israeli interests as the media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans (i'm passing no judgment here). So most of the news will center on what's going on with those interests and the people will make up their mind based on that information or decide whether to seek out additional information, if they're so inclined. So, as a result the masses, artists included, who rely on the mainstream media for its education learn about only what's readily available to them. If American artists aren't properly informed about the world, and only receive a small amount of information which is skewed towards US interests, then they will create art based on their limited knowledge. I'd assume that artists are usually on the liberal side and would gravitate towards sympathy for the down-trodden and oppressed. At this time, Palestinians are the ones being oppressed on a daily basis, so this could be the reason that they have chosen to create pro-Palestinian art. Is it a cash-grab? I don't believe so, unless the individual artists are completely aware of the other atrocities and purposely decide to choose the subject matter which they think would have the most marketability. Truth is, I have no idea what each artist's intent is and how they decide to create the art they create. And I doubt any other person on this forum does either, unless have personally discussed the decision process with the 9 out of 10 artists that you speak of. So your honest question really can't be answered fully, right? |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by nobokov on Mar 18, 2017 16:38:46 GMT 1, Your question assumes that 9 out of 10 times artists choose to create art about this subject. But is that true? Can you cite more examples of artists and pieces discussing this issue? No. The point is 9 out of 10 times (does it matter if it's 8/10?) street artists get involved in human rights issues they pick this one. And my point is they do this because of the financial gain and easy access. It's easy. Like is said, they fly Ba to tlv, eat some hummus and hit the club and beach. They don't spend time on causes that are not profitable. Repub of central Africa not paying 6 figueres to paint (censored) murals and taking them out for nobulike the benevolent UAE does. I think my observations are not commonly held and I do appreciate people's thoughts and inputs. I respect all your ideas. It's a healthy thing to discuss arts part in this.
Good that you stoked some conversation though as this forum was feeling quite dead for the past few months. Also, it's good that you've brought to light and confirmed individuals with extreme or ignorant positions that I'd likely not associate with in business.
Your question assumes that 9 out of 10 times artists choose to create art about this subject. But is that true? Can you cite more examples of artists and pieces discussing this issue? No. The point is 9 out of 10 times (does it matter if it's 8/10?) street artists get involved in human rights issues they pick this one. And my point is they do this because of the financial gain and easy access. It's easy. Like is said, they fly Ba to tlv, eat some hummus and hit the club and beach. They don't spend time on causes that are not profitable. Repub of central Africa not paying 6 figueres to paint (censored) murals and taking them out for nobulike the benevolent UAE does. I think my observations are not commonly held and I do appreciate people's thoughts and inputs. I respect all your ideas. It's a healthy thing to discuss arts part in this. I think my point is that I don't know whether 9 or 8 out of 10 artists choose this subject. It's tough when an argument relies on statements which may or may not be a fact and the question is asking why the statements are true? But in my last post, I've tried to address your questions - don't know how successful that was. Good that you stoked some conversation though as this forum was feeling quite dead for the past few months. Also, it's good that you've brought to light and confirmed individuals with extreme or ignorant positions that I'd likely not associate with in business. |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Happy Shopper on Mar 18, 2017 16:56:22 GMT 1, ...And my point is they do this because of the financial gain and easy access. It's easy. Like is said, they fly Ba to tlv, eat some hummus and hit the club and beach. They don't spend time on causes that are not profitable. Repub of central Africa not paying 6 figueres to paint (censored) murals and taking them out for nobulike the benevolent UAE does. I think my observations are not commonly held and I do appreciate people's thoughts and inputs. I respect all your ideas. It's a healthy thing to discuss arts part in this.
Any facts to back that up?
It's nonsense. Who gets paid to do murals that support Palestinians... And by who exactly? Back this up with some proof.
...And my point is they do this because of the financial gain and easy access. It's easy. Like is said, they fly Ba to tlv, eat some hummus and hit the club and beach. They don't spend time on causes that are not profitable. Repub of central Africa not paying 6 figueres to paint (censored) murals and taking them out for nobulike the benevolent UAE does. I think my observations are not commonly held and I do appreciate people's thoughts and inputs. I respect all your ideas. It's a healthy thing to discuss arts part in this. Any facts to back that up? It's nonsense. Who gets paid to do murals that support Palestinians... And by who exactly? Back this up with some proof. |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Happy Shopper on Mar 18, 2017 17:00:18 GMT 1, It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question.
Again, back anything in your original post with actual facts/statistics and maybe people can reply with counter facts.
But this is all just speculation and assumption.
It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. [ Again, back anything in your original post with actual facts/statistics and maybe people can reply with counter facts. But this is all just speculation and assumption. |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Reader on Mar 18, 2017 17:57:42 GMT 1, Palestine is heralded as a worthy cause by unconnected, British artists because liberals place Muslims at the top of the victimisation hierarchy; thus it has become the cause celebre of the left.
Palestine is heralded as a worthy cause by unconnected, British artists because liberals place Muslims at the top of the victimisation hierarchy; thus it has become the cause celebre of the left. Actually Posterbob, it's still people of colour, gay rights, the disabled, and gender based issues, people who have been regarded as second class citizens and treated as such by those the ruling class are able to manipulate into doing so on their behalf through ownership of the media. Too much TV ;-) |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Poster Bob on Mar 18, 2017 18:14:51 GMT 1, "Disabled" made me "ouch". I expext an "oops" in response. The PC term is differently abled. Please update your lexicon.
Palestine is heralded as a worthy cause by unconnected, British artists because liberals place Muslims at the top of the victimisation hierarchy; thus it has become the cause celebre of the left. Actually Posterbob, it's still people of colour, gay rights, the disabled, and gender based issues, people who have been regarded as second class citizens and treated as such by those the ruling class are able to manipulate into doing so on their behalf through ownership of the media. Too much TV ;-)
"Disabled" made me "ouch". I expext an "oops" in response. The PC term is differently abled. Please update your lexicon. Palestine is heralded as a worthy cause by unconnected, British artists because liberals place Muslims at the top of the victimisation hierarchy; thus it has become the cause celebre of the left. Actually Posterbob, it's still people of colour, gay rights, the disabled, and gender based issues, people who have been regarded as second class citizens and treated as such by those the ruling class are able to manipulate into doing so on their behalf through ownership of the media. Too much TV ;-) |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by wisky on Mar 18, 2017 18:19:05 GMT 1, There has always been - and will always be - persecution in the world, it's called 'natural selection' and has been going on since day dot, who wiped out neandrethals...... The homo-sapians? What about the Aztecs, the Egyptians, the Vikings, the Saxons or the Romans...... were they persecutors or persecuted?? The answer is that they were BOTH, as the more powerful will persecute the weak for their own interests and needs, it's not nice, it's evolution!! and there's me thinking it was greed corruption, the arms trade and international banking and one or two other unmentionables
Hey, I'm with the Palastinians all the way, I was making a general, if sad, but true generalisation of natural selection, Mankind will carry this on until there is only one race and ruler!!
I'm a neutral in this and many other unfair situations across the world......
Nostradamus was certain that final ruling race would be the Chienese.......
I think what the OP was suggesting was that Banksy is jumping onto a cause to promote himself/his art???
There has always been - and will always be - persecution in the world, it's called 'natural selection' and has been going on since day dot, who wiped out neandrethals...... The homo-sapians? What about the Aztecs, the Egyptians, the Vikings, the Saxons or the Romans...... were they persecutors or persecuted?? The answer is that they were BOTH, as the more powerful will persecute the weak for their own interests and needs, it's not nice, it's evolution!! and there's me thinking it was greed corruption, the arms trade and international banking and one or two other unmentionables Which comes down to whom has the power, which then leads to greed and corruption...... Hey, I'm with the Palastinians all the way, I was making a general, if sad, but true generalisation of natural selection, Mankind will carry this on until there is only one race and ruler!! I'm a neutral in this and many other unfair situations across the world...... Nostradamus was certain that final ruling race would be the Chienese....... I think what the OP was suggesting was that Banksy is jumping onto a cause to promote himself/his art??? |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Reader on Mar 18, 2017 18:21:04 GMT 1, "Disabled" made me "ouch". I expext an "oops" in response. The PC term is differently abled. Please update your lexicon. Actually Posterbob, it's still people of colour, gay rights, the disabled, and gender based issues, people who have been regarded as second class citizens and treated as such by those the ruling class are able to manipulate into doing so on their behalf through ownership of the media. Too much TV ;-)
Is your tail wagging ? Pavlo would be proud, here's a snack, goooooood boooooy. 
"Disabled" made me "ouch". I expext an "oops" in response. The PC term is differently abled. Please update your lexicon. Actually Posterbob, it's still people of colour, gay rights, the disabled, and gender based issues, people who have been regarded as second class citizens and treated as such by those the ruling class are able to manipulate into doing so on their behalf through ownership of the media. Too much TV ;-) Is your tail wagging ? Pavlo would be proud, here's a snack, goooooood boooooy. |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Reader on Mar 18, 2017 18:27:41 GMT 1, and there's me thinking it was greed corruption, the arms trade and international banking and one or two other unmentionables Which comes down to whom has the power, which then leads to greed and corruption...... Hey, I'm with the Palastinians all the way, I was making a general, if sad, but true generalisation of natural selection, Mankind will carry this on until there is only one race and ruler!! I'm a neutral in this and many other unfair situations across the world...... Nostradamus was certain that final ruling race would be the Chienese....... I think what the OP was suggesting was that Banksy is jumping onto a cause to promote himself/his art???  . But annnywaaay, just for the record, it's commonly regarded that race is a social construct and not biological. Great you're with the Palestinian cause !
and there's me thinking it was greed corruption, the arms trade and international banking and one or two other unmentionables Which comes down to whom has the power, which then leads to greed and corruption...... Hey, I'm with the Palastinians all the way, I was making a general, if sad, but true generalisation of natural selection, Mankind will carry this on until there is only one race and ruler!! I'm a neutral in this and many other unfair situations across the world...... Nostradamus was certain that final ruling race would be the Chienese....... I think what the OP was suggesting was that Banksy is jumping onto a cause to promote himself/his art??? Let's not jump to conclusions, it might be the OP isn't convinced about Darwin's Theory of Evolution hey . But annnywaaay, just for the record, it's commonly regarded that race is a social construct and not biological. Great you're with the Palestinian cause ! |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by wisky on Mar 18, 2017 18:36:35 GMT 1, Which comes down to whom has the power, which then leads to greed and corruption...... Hey, I'm with the Palastinians all the way, I was making a general, if sad, but true generalisation of natural selection, Mankind will carry this on until there is only one race and ruler!! I'm a neutral in this and many other unfair situations across the world...... Nostradamus was certain that final ruling race would be the Chienese....... I think what the OP was suggesting was that Banksy is jumping onto a cause to promote himself/his art??? Let's not jump to conclusions, it might be the OP isn't convinced about Darwin's Theory of Evolution hey . But annnywaaay, just for the record, it's commonly regarded that race is a social construct and not biological. Great you're with the Palestinian cause !
Which comes down to whom has the power, which then leads to greed and corruption...... Hey, I'm with the Palastinians all the way, I was making a general, if sad, but true generalisation of natural selection, Mankind will carry this on until there is only one race and ruler!! I'm a neutral in this and many other unfair situations across the world...... Nostradamus was certain that final ruling race would be the Chienese....... I think what the OP was suggesting was that Banksy is jumping onto a cause to promote himself/his art??? Let's not jump to conclusions, it might be the OP isn't convinced about Darwin's Theory of Evolution hey . But annnywaaay, just for the record, it's commonly regarded that race is a social construct and not biological. Great you're with the Palestinian cause ! Hey, I'm with you but from a different angle....... And I was talking about 'Natural selection', rather than the Theory of Evolution....... But were kind of on the same page blud.....! |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 19, 2017 17:03:28 GMT 1, It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly. I don't know where you're based, but in the US, the mainstream media does not cover any atrocities or genocidal acts throughout the world unless they can get ratings.ย The US Government also provides a large amount of funding to Israel to support the US hegemony with its strategic military installations in the area. Israel/Palestine relations is covered to a certain extent in the media, since Israel is a US ally. The coverage usually is skewed toward pro-Israeli interests as the media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans (i'm passing no judgment here). So most of the news will center on what's going on with those interests and the people will make up their mind based on that information or decide whether to seek out additional information, if they're so inclined. So, as a result the masses, artists included, who rely on the mainstream media for its education learn about only what's readily available to them. If American artists aren't properly informed about the world, and only receive a small amount of information which is skewed towards US interests, then they will create art based on their limited knowledge. I'd assume that artists are usually on the liberal side and would gravitate towards sympathy for the down-trodden and oppressed. At this time, Palestinians are the ones being oppressed on a daily basis, so this could be the reason that they have chosen to create pro-Palestinian art. Is it a cash-grab? I don't believe so, unless the individual artists are completely aware of the other atrocities and purposely decide to choose the subject matter which they think would have the most marketability. Truth is, I have no idea what each artist's intent is and how they decide to create the art they create. And I doubt any other person on this forum does either, unless have personally discussed the decision process with the 9 out of 10 artists that you speak of. So your honest question really can't be answered fully, right?
As all US media outlets on tv are publicly traded companies, and the share holders are majority asset managers for say public pensions, how do you come to the educated conclusion "Jews" control the media. That is about as antisemetic and uninformed as it gets. The owners of the Us media, who control the media companies, are as far from Jewish controlled as you can get. Are you telling me that the California teachers retirement fund is a bunch of Jews? You do realize there are only 13mm Jews in the world? Maybe 4-5mm in the USA. Do you really think that population has bought all of the equity market cap of every single news outlet? Where do people come up with this garbage. Did you read that in a Saudi tourism guide book advertising section? There are 1.6bln muslims and a giant pool of wealth that has the ability to influence media at an infinite multiple more than Jews. Oil money my friends. So you really think all those purple Lamborghinis riding around london and Paris are Jews?
Do you know that these oil rich Arab countries have hundreds of billions of dollars in funds such as ADIA. They invest in media companies. Guess who does not. Who does not have a govt fund, Israel. Do you guys understand how global finance works or is your understanding limited to Michael Moore docudramas and BBC 1hr specials on banking?
It's incredible how so many people write rambling non fact based responses, attack me for zero reason and ignore my initial question. I just keep having to respond to unrelated stupid points instead of hearing actual responses to the real question. A few of you have actually tried to engage the question by stating- this cause likely calls to banksy in some way. Maybe he is arab or his wife is etc. he has a linkage to it. I think that's a reasonable answer. But what about straight British artists that have zero link? Seems money grab no? FYI that image of scale is stupid. US has given Palestine 5bln in aid as well. Why is that excluded if not to be unfactual. We seem to be ignoring facts and the intital question because the answer seems too ugly. I don't know where you're based, but in the US, the mainstream media does not cover any atrocities or genocidal acts throughout the world unless they can get ratings.ย The US Government also provides a large amount of funding to Israel to support the US hegemony with its strategic military installations in the area. Israel/Palestine relations is covered to a certain extent in the media, since Israel is a US ally. The coverage usually is skewed toward pro-Israeli interests as the media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans (i'm passing no judgment here). So most of the news will center on what's going on with those interests and the people will make up their mind based on that information or decide whether to seek out additional information, if they're so inclined. So, as a result the masses, artists included, who rely on the mainstream media for its education learn about only what's readily available to them. If American artists aren't properly informed about the world, and only receive a small amount of information which is skewed towards US interests, then they will create art based on their limited knowledge. I'd assume that artists are usually on the liberal side and would gravitate towards sympathy for the down-trodden and oppressed. At this time, Palestinians are the ones being oppressed on a daily basis, so this could be the reason that they have chosen to create pro-Palestinian art. Is it a cash-grab? I don't believe so, unless the individual artists are completely aware of the other atrocities and purposely decide to choose the subject matter which they think would have the most marketability. Truth is, I have no idea what each artist's intent is and how they decide to create the art they create. And I doubt any other person on this forum does either, unless have personally discussed the decision process with the 9 out of 10 artists that you speak of. So your honest question really can't be answered fully, right? As all US media outlets on tv are publicly traded companies, and the share holders are majority asset managers for say public pensions, how do you come to the educated conclusion "Jews" control the media. That is about as antisemetic and uninformed as it gets. The owners of the Us media, who control the media companies, are as far from Jewish controlled as you can get. Are you telling me that the California teachers retirement fund is a bunch of Jews? You do realize there are only 13mm Jews in the world? Maybe 4-5mm in the USA. Do you really think that population has bought all of the equity market cap of every single news outlet? Where do people come up with this garbage. Did you read that in a Saudi tourism guide book advertising section? There are 1.6bln muslims and a giant pool of wealth that has the ability to influence media at an infinite multiple more than Jews. Oil money my friends. So you really think all those purple Lamborghinis riding around london and Paris are Jews? Do you know that these oil rich Arab countries have hundreds of billions of dollars in funds such as ADIA. They invest in media companies. Guess who does not. Who does not have a govt fund, Israel. Do you guys understand how global finance works or is your understanding limited to Michael Moore docudramas and BBC 1hr specials on banking? |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by medichead on Mar 19, 2017 17:46:16 GMT 1, I don't know where you're based, but in the US, the mainstream media does not cover any atrocities or genocidal acts throughout the world unless they can get ratings.ย The US Government also provides a large amount of funding to Israel to support the US hegemony with its strategic military installations in the area. Israel/Palestine relations is covered to a certain extent in the media, since Israel is a US ally. The coverage usually is skewed toward pro-Israeli interests as the media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans (i'm passing no judgment here). So most of the news will center on what's going on with those interests and the people will make up their mind based on that information or decide whether to seek out additional information, if they're so inclined. So, as a result the masses, artists included, who rely on the mainstream media for its education learn about only what's readily available to them. If American artists aren't properly informed about the world, and only receive a small amount of information which is skewed towards US interests, then they will create art based on their limited knowledge. I'd assume that artists are usually on the liberal side and would gravitate towards sympathy for the down-trodden and oppressed. At this time, Palestinians are the ones being oppressed on a daily basis, so this could be the reason that they have chosen to create pro-Palestinian art. Is it a cash-grab? I don't believe so, unless the individual artists are completely aware of the other atrocities and purposely decide to choose the subject matter which they think would have the most marketability. Truth is, I have no idea what each artist's intent is and how they decide to create the art they create. And I doubt any other person on this forum does either, unless have personally discussed the decision process with the 9 out of 10 artists that you speak of. So your honest question really can't be answered fully, right? As all US media outlets on tv are publicly traded companies, and the share holders are majority asset managers for say public pensions, how do you come to the educated conclusion "Jews" control the media. That is about as antisemetic and uninformed as it gets. The owners of the Us media, who control the media companies, are as far from Jewish controlled as you can get. Are you telling me that the California teachers retirement fund is a bunch of Jews? You do realize there are only 13mm Jews in the world? Maybe 4-5mm in the USA. Do you really think that population has bought all of the equity market cap of every single news outlet? Where do people come up with this garbage. Did you read that in a Saudi tourism guide book advertising section? There are 1.6bln muslims and a giant pool of wealth that has the ability to influence media at an infinite multiple more than Jews. Oil money my friends. So you really think all those purple Lamborghinis riding around london and Paris are Jews? Do you know that these oil rich Arab countries have hundreds of billions of dollars in funds such as ADIA. They invest in media companies. Guess who does not. Who does not have a govt fund, Israel. Do you guys understand how global finance works or is your understanding limited to Michael Moore docudramas and BBC 1hr specials on banking?
You sure are getting riled up for someone who sought to encourage an honest discussion about Palestine and art.
I don't know where you're based, but in the US, the mainstream media does not cover any atrocities or genocidal acts throughout the world unless they can get ratings.ย The US Government also provides a large amount of funding to Israel to support the US hegemony with its strategic military installations in the area. Israel/Palestine relations is covered to a certain extent in the media, since Israel is a US ally. The coverage usually is skewed toward pro-Israeli interests as the media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans (i'm passing no judgment here). So most of the news will center on what's going on with those interests and the people will make up their mind based on that information or decide whether to seek out additional information, if they're so inclined. So, as a result the masses, artists included, who rely on the mainstream media for its education learn about only what's readily available to them. If American artists aren't properly informed about the world, and only receive a small amount of information which is skewed towards US interests, then they will create art based on their limited knowledge. I'd assume that artists are usually on the liberal side and would gravitate towards sympathy for the down-trodden and oppressed. At this time, Palestinians are the ones being oppressed on a daily basis, so this could be the reason that they have chosen to create pro-Palestinian art. Is it a cash-grab? I don't believe so, unless the individual artists are completely aware of the other atrocities and purposely decide to choose the subject matter which they think would have the most marketability. Truth is, I have no idea what each artist's intent is and how they decide to create the art they create. And I doubt any other person on this forum does either, unless have personally discussed the decision process with the 9 out of 10 artists that you speak of. So your honest question really can't be answered fully, right? As all US media outlets on tv are publicly traded companies, and the share holders are majority asset managers for say public pensions, how do you come to the educated conclusion "Jews" control the media. That is about as antisemetic and uninformed as it gets. The owners of the Us media, who control the media companies, are as far from Jewish controlled as you can get. Are you telling me that the California teachers retirement fund is a bunch of Jews? You do realize there are only 13mm Jews in the world? Maybe 4-5mm in the USA. Do you really think that population has bought all of the equity market cap of every single news outlet? Where do people come up with this garbage. Did you read that in a Saudi tourism guide book advertising section? There are 1.6bln muslims and a giant pool of wealth that has the ability to influence media at an infinite multiple more than Jews. Oil money my friends. So you really think all those purple Lamborghinis riding around london and Paris are Jews? Do you know that these oil rich Arab countries have hundreds of billions of dollars in funds such as ADIA. They invest in media companies. Guess who does not. Who does not have a govt fund, Israel. Do you guys understand how global finance works or is your understanding limited to Michael Moore docudramas and BBC 1hr specials on banking? You sure are getting riled up for someone who sought to encourage an honest discussion about Palestine and art. |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:50:21 GMT 1, I Wrote some stuff, then deleted it, (just so you know) :-)
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by nobokov on Mar 19, 2017 17:50:51 GMT 1, I don't know where you're based, but in the US, the mainstream media does not cover any atrocities or genocidal acts throughout the world unless they can get ratings. The US Government also provides a large amount of funding to Israel to support the US hegemony with its strategic military installations in the area. Israel/Palestine relations is covered to a certain extent in the media, since Israel is a US ally. The coverage usually is skewed toward pro-Israeli interests as the media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans (i'm passing no judgment here). So most of the news will center on what's going on with those interests and the people will make up their mind based on that information or decide whether to seek out additional information, if they're so inclined. So, as a result the masses, artists included, who rely on the mainstream media for its education learn about only what's readily available to them. If American artists aren't properly informed about the world, and only receive a small amount of information which is skewed towards US interests, then they will create art based on their limited knowledge. I'd assume that artists are usually on the liberal side and would gravitate towards sympathy for the down-trodden and oppressed. At this time, Palestinians are the ones being oppressed on a daily basis, so this could be the reason that they have chosen to create pro-Palestinian art. Is it a cash-grab? I don't believe so, unless the individual artists are completely aware of the other atrocities and purposely decide to choose the subject matter which they think would have the most marketability. Truth is, I have no idea what each artist's intent is and how they decide to create the art they create. And I doubt any other person on this forum does either, unless have personally discussed the decision process with the 9 out of 10 artists that you speak of. So your honest question really can't be answered fully, right? As all US media outlets on tv are publicly traded companies, and the share holders are majority asset managers for say public pensions, how do you come to the educated conclusion "Jews" control the media. That is about as antisemetic and uninformed as it gets. The owners of the Us media, who control the media companies, are as far from Jewish controlled as you can get. Are you telling me that the California teachers retirement fund is a bunch of Jews? You do realize there are only 13mm Jews in the world? Maybe 4-5mm in the USA. Do you really think that population has bought all of the equity market cap of every single news outlet? Where do people come up with this garbage. Did you read that in a Saudi tourism guide book advertising section? There are 1.6bln muslims and a giant pool of wealth that has the ability to influence media at an infinite multiple more than Jews. Oil money my friends. So you really think all those purple Lamborghinis riding around london and Paris are Jews? Do you know that these oil rich Arab countries have hundreds of billions of dollars in funds such as ADIA. They invest in media companies. Guess who does not. Who does not have a govt fund, Israel. Do you guys understand how global finance works or is your understanding limited to Michael Moore docudramas and BBC 1hr specials on banking?
The point was that the media clearly has biases and does not cover certain subjects, including those other world atrocities that you linked to. That in turn leads to what the masses/artists are informed about and the subjects they might create art about. That was my hypothesis to try and explain your 'honest question.'
But based on your steaming vitriol regarding that statement, you clearly have other aims in posing your question as others have mentioned and are not looking for an answer to your question. Perhaps only you know the answer to your question and are dying to share it with us?
Some recommended readings: Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky, The End of the Peace Process by Edward Said, and The Case for Israel by Alan Dershowitz.
Recommended Alternative News Sources: Democracy Now, Znet
I don't know where you're based, but in the US, the mainstream media does not cover any atrocities or genocidal acts throughout the world unless they can get ratings. The US Government also provides a large amount of funding to Israel to support the US hegemony with its strategic military installations in the area. Israel/Palestine relations is covered to a certain extent in the media, since Israel is a US ally. The coverage usually is skewed toward pro-Israeli interests as the media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans (i'm passing no judgment here). So most of the news will center on what's going on with those interests and the people will make up their mind based on that information or decide whether to seek out additional information, if they're so inclined. So, as a result the masses, artists included, who rely on the mainstream media for its education learn about only what's readily available to them. If American artists aren't properly informed about the world, and only receive a small amount of information which is skewed towards US interests, then they will create art based on their limited knowledge. I'd assume that artists are usually on the liberal side and would gravitate towards sympathy for the down-trodden and oppressed. At this time, Palestinians are the ones being oppressed on a daily basis, so this could be the reason that they have chosen to create pro-Palestinian art. Is it a cash-grab? I don't believe so, unless the individual artists are completely aware of the other atrocities and purposely decide to choose the subject matter which they think would have the most marketability. Truth is, I have no idea what each artist's intent is and how they decide to create the art they create. And I doubt any other person on this forum does either, unless have personally discussed the decision process with the 9 out of 10 artists that you speak of. So your honest question really can't be answered fully, right? As all US media outlets on tv are publicly traded companies, and the share holders are majority asset managers for say public pensions, how do you come to the educated conclusion "Jews" control the media. That is about as antisemetic and uninformed as it gets. The owners of the Us media, who control the media companies, are as far from Jewish controlled as you can get. Are you telling me that the California teachers retirement fund is a bunch of Jews? You do realize there are only 13mm Jews in the world? Maybe 4-5mm in the USA. Do you really think that population has bought all of the equity market cap of every single news outlet? Where do people come up with this garbage. Did you read that in a Saudi tourism guide book advertising section? There are 1.6bln muslims and a giant pool of wealth that has the ability to influence media at an infinite multiple more than Jews. Oil money my friends. So you really think all those purple Lamborghinis riding around london and Paris are Jews? Do you know that these oil rich Arab countries have hundreds of billions of dollars in funds such as ADIA. They invest in media companies. Guess who does not. Who does not have a govt fund, Israel. Do you guys understand how global finance works or is your understanding limited to Michael Moore docudramas and BBC 1hr specials on banking? When I wrote, "media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans," I believe that may have just come from a quick google search, which now in researching again may have been written by illegitimate sources. My mistake. It was not an anti-Semitic statement, nor was it intended to be interpreted that way. I could care less what race/creed/religion owns the media. The point was that the media clearly has biases and does not cover certain subjects, including those other world atrocities that you linked to. That in turn leads to what the masses/artists are informed about and the subjects they might create art about. That was my hypothesis to try and explain your 'honest question.' But based on your steaming vitriol regarding that statement, you clearly have other aims in posing your question as others have mentioned and are not looking for an answer to your question. Perhaps only you know the answer to your question and are dying to share it with us? Some recommended readings: Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky, The End of the Peace Process by Edward Said, and The Case for Israel by Alan Dershowitz. Recommended Alternative News Sources: Democracy Now, Znet |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 19, 2017 18:21:18 GMT 1, As all US media outlets on tv are publicly traded companies, and the share holders are majority asset managers for say public pensions, how do you come to the educated conclusion "Jews" control the media. That is about as antisemetic and uninformed as it gets. The owners of the Us media, who control the media companies, are as far from Jewish controlled as you can get. Are you telling me that the California teachers retirement fund is a bunch of Jews? You do realize there are only 13mm Jews in the world? Maybe 4-5mm in the USA. Do you really think that population has bought all of the equity market cap of every single news outlet? Where do people come up with this garbage. Did you read that in a Saudi tourism guide book advertising section? There are 1.6bln muslims and a giant pool of wealth that has the ability to influence media at an infinite multiple more than Jews. Oil money my friends. So you really think all those purple Lamborghinis riding around london and Paris are Jews? Do you know that these oil rich Arab countries have hundreds of billions of dollars in funds such as ADIA. They invest in media companies. Guess who does not. Who does not have a govt fund, Israel. Do you guys understand how global finance works or is your understanding limited to Michael Moore docudramas and BBC 1hr specials on banking? When I wrote, "media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans," I believe that may have just come from a quick google search, which now in researching again may have been written by illegitimate sources. My mistake. It was not an anti-Semitic statement, nor was it intended to be interpreted that way. I could care less what race/creed/religion owns the media. The point was that the media clearly has biases and does not cover certain subjects, including those other world atrocities that you linked to. That in turn leads to what the masses/artists are informed about and the subjectsย they might create art about. That was my hypothesis to try and explain your 'honest question.' But based on your steaming vitriol regarding that statement, you clearly have other aims in posing your question as others have mentioned and are not looking for an answer to your question. Perhaps only you know the answer to your question and are dying to share it with us? Some recommended readings: Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky, The End of the Peace Process by Edward Said, and The Case for Israel by Alan Dershowitz. Recommended Alternative News Sources: Democracy Now, Znet
I just think that racism has no place in this topic and saying "Jews control the media" is about as neo nazi as it gets. Again I'm not Jewish. My whole point in all this is truth. I think there are so many non truth driving this
As all US media outlets on tv are publicly traded companies, and the share holders are majority asset managers for say public pensions, how do you come to the educated conclusion "Jews" control the media. That is about as antisemetic and uninformed as it gets. The owners of the Us media, who control the media companies, are as far from Jewish controlled as you can get. Are you telling me that the California teachers retirement fund is a bunch of Jews? You do realize there are only 13mm Jews in the world? Maybe 4-5mm in the USA. Do you really think that population has bought all of the equity market cap of every single news outlet? Where do people come up with this garbage. Did you read that in a Saudi tourism guide book advertising section? There are 1.6bln muslims and a giant pool of wealth that has the ability to influence media at an infinite multiple more than Jews. Oil money my friends. So you really think all those purple Lamborghinis riding around london and Paris are Jews? Do you know that these oil rich Arab countries have hundreds of billions of dollars in funds such as ADIA. They invest in media companies. Guess who does not. Who does not have a govt fund, Israel. Do you guys understand how global finance works or is your understanding limited to Michael Moore docudramas and BBC 1hr specials on banking? When I wrote, "media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans," I believe that may have just come from a quick google search, which now in researching again may have been written by illegitimate sources. My mistake. It was not an anti-Semitic statement, nor was it intended to be interpreted that way. I could care less what race/creed/religion owns the media. The point was that the media clearly has biases and does not cover certain subjects, including those other world atrocities that you linked to. That in turn leads to what the masses/artists are informed about and the subjectsย they might create art about. That was my hypothesis to try and explain your 'honest question.' But based on your steaming vitriol regarding that statement, you clearly have other aims in posing your question as others have mentioned and are not looking for an answer to your question. Perhaps only you know the answer to your question and are dying to share it with us? Some recommended readings: Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky, The End of the Peace Process by Edward Said, and The Case for Israel by Alan Dershowitz. Recommended Alternative News Sources: Democracy Now, Znet I just think that racism has no place in this topic and saying "Jews control the media" is about as neo nazi as it gets. Again I'm not Jewish. My whole point in all this is truth. I think there are so many non truth driving this |
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by wisky on Mar 19, 2017 18:30:30 GMT 1, Suggested new thread names.......
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Banksy in Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, by nobokov on Mar 19, 2017 18:45:13 GMT 1, When I wrote, "media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans," I believe that may have just come from a quick google search, which now in researching again may have been written by illegitimate sources. My mistake. It was not an anti-Semitic statement, nor was it intended to be interpreted that way. I could care less what race/creed/religion owns the media. The point was that the media clearly has biases and does not cover certain subjects, including those other world atrocities that you linked to. That in turn leads to what the masses/artists are informed about and the subjects they might create art about. That was my hypothesis to try and explain your 'honest question.' But based on your steaming vitriol regarding that statement, you clearly have other aims in posing your question as others have mentioned and are not looking for an answer to your question. Perhaps only you know the answer to your question and are dying to share it with us? Some recommended readings: Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky, The End of the Peace Process by Edward Said, and The Case for Israel by Alan Dershowitz. Recommended Alternative News Sources: Democracy Now, Znet I just think that racism has no place in this topic and saying "Jews control the media" is about as neo nazi as it gets. Again I'm not Jewish. My whole point in all this is truth. I think there are so many non truth driving this
Yeah, I usually like to throw out the -ist accusations when I don't want to engage in conversation. My wife is getting tired of being called out on her racist, sexist, homophobic statements.
By the way, I did some research and found that the A-rabs control the media. Can we talk now? So what's your point and what's your truth?
When I wrote, "media is largely controlled by Jewish Americans," I believe that may have just come from a quick google search, which now in researching again may have been written by illegitimate sources. My mistake. It was not an anti-Semitic statement, nor was it intended to be interpreted that way. I could care less what race/creed/religion owns the media. The point was that the media clearly has biases and does not cover certain subjects, including those other world atrocities that you linked to. That in turn leads to what the masses/artists are informed about and the subjects they might create art about. That was my hypothesis to try and explain your 'honest question.' But based on your steaming vitriol regarding that statement, you clearly have other aims in posing your question as others have mentioned and are not looking for an answer to your question. Perhaps only you know the answer to your question and are dying to share it with us? Some recommended readings: Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky, The End of the Peace Process by Edward Said, and The Case for Israel by Alan Dershowitz. Recommended Alternative News Sources: Democracy Now, Znet I just think that racism has no place in this topic and saying "Jews control the media" is about as neo nazi as it gets. Again I'm not Jewish. My whole point in all this is truth. I think there are so many non truth driving this That is SO SEXIST of you! Yeah, I usually like to throw out the -ist accusations when I don't want to engage in conversation. My wife is getting tired of being called out on her racist, sexist, homophobic statements. By the way, I did some research and found that the A-rabs control the media. Can we talk now? So what's your point and what's your truth? |
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. But annnywaaay, just for the record, it's commonly regarded that race is a social construct and not biological. Great you're with the Palestinian cause !
