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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by BayTar on Sept 13, 2015 23:25:23 GMT 1, This print is still for sale. I can't really believe i've not yet had a firm offer on this piece.
An iconic early Banksy work, full signed, authenticated and conserved.
Please get in touch.
James
This print is still for sale. I can't really believe i've not yet had a firm offer on this piece.
An iconic early Banksy work, full signed, authenticated and conserved.
Please get in touch.
James
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Poster Bob on Sept 13, 2015 23:40:09 GMT 1, You haven't had any offers because the asking price is unfortunately in excess of that asked by galleries. It's not a competitive price and it's an expensive print to begin with.
You haven't had any offers because the asking price is unfortunately in excess of that asked by galleries. It's not a competitive price and it's an expensive print to begin with.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by snider on Sept 23, 2015 18:51:05 GMT 1, Please PM me if you have one for sale
Please PM me if you have one for sale
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by dbm on Sept 23, 2015 19:42:48 GMT 1, GLWS !
One of my favourites !
GLWS !
One of my favourites !
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Missy Parrot on Sept 24, 2015 12:34:29 GMT 1, Good luck - I've been after one for years 
Good luck - I've been after one for years |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Fountain Art on Oct 13, 2015 0:41:09 GMT 1, Mint condition, never framed, stored flat -
Signed "Laugh Now"
Signed
Based in London
No swaps or trades thanks
Mint condition, never framed, stored flat -
Signed "Laugh Now"
Signed
Based in London
No swaps or trades thanks
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 10:09:20 GMT 1, Mods can i ask why this Art Consultancy and others can advertise items for sale on this forum yet online/Galleries cannot??
Mods can i ask why this Art Consultancy and others can advertise items for sale on this forum yet online/Galleries cannot??
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Happy Shopper on Oct 13, 2015 10:55:55 GMT 1, Probably not allowed either.
I assume it's so this board doesn't get filled with the entire stock of every gallery out there.
Probably not allowed either.
I assume it's so this board doesn't get filled with the entire stock of every gallery out there.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Coach on Oct 13, 2015 11:14:19 GMT 1, Mods can i ask why this Art Consultancy and others can advertise items for sale on this forum yet online/Galleries cannot??
I didn't know that online galleries and other galleries couldn't advert what they have for sale. I thought it was just Ebay links that were not allowed.
Of course, it's not great when galleries only ever pop up to flog summit or to buy summit for a client without any other contribution.
That can hardly be said of you CAT! And nor did I have Fountain in mind.
But even so, I didn't think it wasn't allowed.
Mods can i ask why this Art Consultancy and others can advertise items for sale on this forum yet online/Galleries cannot?? I didn't know that online galleries and other galleries couldn't advert what they have for sale. I thought it was just Ebay links that were not allowed. Of course, it's not great when galleries only ever pop up to flog summit or to buy summit for a client without any other contribution. That can hardly be said of you CAT! And nor did I have Fountain in mind. But even so, I didn't think it wasn't allowed. |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Ruggs on Oct 13, 2015 11:56:36 GMT 1, Why not just add an art consultancy/online gallery section. Wouldn't have a problem with it. After all this is an art forum.
Why not just add an art consultancy/online gallery section. Wouldn't have a problem with it. After all this is an art forum.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by 11 on Oct 13, 2015 12:50:43 GMT 1, The Galleries / Consultancies / Sourcerers......shouldn't in fact be selling in the For Sale board as that is for the special members with the real stars - red, blue and green stars denote a business of some sort
In reality a Gallery / artist.......should have their own page - in there they can then announce print releases, special events, sales etc..
If someone wants to sell a piece from their private collection then they should say so and be clear about it but I certainly wouldn't expect a gallery to be listing the items they have for sale here, thats what they have their own website for
The Galleries / Consultancies / Sourcerers......shouldn't in fact be selling in the For Sale board as that is for the special members with the real stars - red, blue and green stars denote a business of some sort
In reality a Gallery / artist.......should have their own page - in there they can then announce print releases, special events, sales etc..
If someone wants to sell a piece from their private collection then they should say so and be clear about it but I certainly wouldn't expect a gallery to be listing the items they have for sale here, thats what they have their own website for
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by 11 on Oct 13, 2015 12:52:24 GMT 1, We have also considered taking Ruggs approach to have a dedicated sub-board for the commercial members and may well go down that route in the future
We have also considered taking Ruggs approach to have a dedicated sub-board for the commercial members and may well go down that route in the future |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by mla on Oct 13, 2015 13:16:56 GMT 1, I brought this up before during the whole Eye Kandi Art debacle. I was under the impression that the buying and selling forums were for collector to collector sales, but apparently that was not the case.
I brought this up before during the whole Eye Kandi Art debacle. I was under the impression that the buying and selling forums were for collector to collector sales, but apparently that was not the case.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by 11 on Oct 13, 2015 13:21:35 GMT 1, As long as you don't say that name 3 times while walking backwards around a IHC with a well-groomed pooch on your head.....if there's gonna be a 7th coming I'm outta here
As long as you don't say that name 3 times while walking backwards around a IHC with a well-groomed pooch on your head.....if there's gonna be a 7th coming I'm outta here
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by jayTown on Oct 13, 2015 16:28:52 GMT 1, Why not just add an art consultancy/online gallery section. Wouldn't have a problem with it. After all this is an art forum.
Why not just add an art consultancy/online gallery section. Wouldn't have a problem with it. After all this is an art forum. Agree. Good idea. |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Black Apple Art on Oct 13, 2015 17:39:44 GMT 1, The Galleries / Consultancies / Sourcerers......shouldn't in fact be selling in the For Sale board as that is for the special members with the real stars - red, blue and green stars denote a business of some sort In reality a Gallery / artist.......should have their own page - in there they can then announce print releases, special events, sales etc.. If someone wants to sell a piece from their private collection then they should say so and be clear about it but I certainly wouldn't expect a gallery to be listing the items they have for sale here, thats what they have their own website for
The Galleries / Consultancies / Sourcerers......shouldn't in fact be selling in the For Sale board as that is for the special members with the real stars - red, blue and green stars denote a business of some sort In reality a Gallery / artist.......should have their own page - in there they can then announce print releases, special events, sales etc.. If someone wants to sell a piece from their private collection then they should say so and be clear about it but I certainly wouldn't expect a gallery to be listing the items they have for sale here, thats what they have their own website for Had this discussion in depth about a year ago when they changed this rule and only allowed "businesses" to post in the "gallery sales" section. Problem is that many businesses / galleries here are also regular members as well, like me, and from time to time have personal pieces to sell and are unable to list in this section period. I believe we should be able to list them as such here and as long as it is not abused, the system should work fine. If suspect, any mod can bump it to either section easily. Not a big deal either way. Moving on... |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 18:20:27 GMT 1, The Galleries / Consultancies / Sourcerers......shouldn't in fact be selling in the For Sale board as that is for the special members with the real stars - red, blue and green stars denote a business of some sort In reality a Gallery / artist.......should have their own page - in there they can then announce print releases, special events, sales etc.. If someone wants to sell a piece from their private collection then they should say so and be clear about it but I certainly wouldn't expect a gallery to be listing the items they have for sale here, thats what they have their own website for Had this discussion in depth about a year ago when they changed this rule and only allowed "businesses" to post in the "gallery sales" section. Problem is that many businesses / galleries here are also regular members as well, like me, and from time to time have personal pieces to sell and are unable to list in this section period. I believe we should be able to list them as such here and as long as it is not abused, the system should work fine. If suspect, any mod can bump it to either section easily. Not a big deal either way. Moving on...
It would be nice if the galleries put a price on their advert, again no big deal, but..........
As an aside if a gallery sells as a gallery, do they have to charge VAT? and privately not?
i.e if i bought from a gallery via my business could I claim the vat back?
The Galleries / Consultancies / Sourcerers......shouldn't in fact be selling in the For Sale board as that is for the special members with the real stars - red, blue and green stars denote a business of some sort In reality a Gallery / artist.......should have their own page - in there they can then announce print releases, special events, sales etc.. If someone wants to sell a piece from their private collection then they should say so and be clear about it but I certainly wouldn't expect a gallery to be listing the items they have for sale here, thats what they have their own website for Had this discussion in depth about a year ago when they changed this rule and only allowed "businesses" to post in the "gallery sales" section. Problem is that many businesses / galleries here are also regular members as well, like me, and from time to time have personal pieces to sell and are unable to list in this section period. I believe we should be able to list them as such here and as long as it is not abused, the system should work fine. If suspect, any mod can bump it to either section easily. Not a big deal either way. Moving on... It would be nice if the galleries put a price on their advert, again no big deal, but.......... As an aside if a gallery sells as a gallery, do they have to charge VAT? and privately not? i.e if i bought from a gallery via my business could I claim the vat back? |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by 11 on Oct 13, 2015 18:37:33 GMT 1, The Galleries / Consultancies / Sourcerers......shouldn't in fact be selling in the For Sale board as that is for the special members with the real stars - red, blue and green stars denote a business of some sort In reality a Gallery / artist.......should have their own page - in there they can then announce print releases, special events, sales etc.. If someone wants to sell a piece from their private collection then they should say so and be clear about it but I certainly wouldn't expect a gallery to be listing the items they have for sale here, thats what they have their own website for Had this discussion in depth about a year ago when they changed this rule and only allowed "businesses" to post in the "gallery sales" section. Problem is that many businesses / galleries here are also regular members as well, like me, and from time to time have personal pieces to sell and are unable to list in this section period. I believe we should be able to list them as such here and as long as it is not abused, the system should work fine. If suspect, any mod can bump it to either section easily. Not a big deal either way. Moving on...
Obviously if a gallery was having a personal sale every other day and the same pieces were being sold on their website then that would be technically referred to as 'taking the piss' - not, I hasten to add, anything I'd ever expect BAA to do as they are a professional outfit - just making the point 
The Galleries / Consultancies / Sourcerers......shouldn't in fact be selling in the For Sale board as that is for the special members with the real stars - red, blue and green stars denote a business of some sort In reality a Gallery / artist.......should have their own page - in there they can then announce print releases, special events, sales etc.. If someone wants to sell a piece from their private collection then they should say so and be clear about it but I certainly wouldn't expect a gallery to be listing the items they have for sale here, thats what they have their own website for Had this discussion in depth about a year ago when they changed this rule and only allowed "businesses" to post in the "gallery sales" section. Problem is that many businesses / galleries here are also regular members as well, like me, and from time to time have personal pieces to sell and are unable to list in this section period. I believe we should be able to list them as such here and as long as it is not abused, the system should work fine. If suspect, any mod can bump it to either section easily. Not a big deal either way. Moving on... Unless there is an automated rule preventing you from raising sales threads then I think as long as you are clear it is a personal sale you have every right to raise one - its about transparency and honesty. Obviously if a gallery was having a personal sale every other day and the same pieces were being sold on their website then that would be technically referred to as 'taking the piss' - not, I hasten to add, anything I'd ever expect BAA to do as they are a professional outfit - just making the point |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Black Apple Art on Oct 13, 2015 19:06:32 GMT 1, Had this discussion in depth about a year ago when they changed this rule and only allowed "businesses" to post in the "gallery sales" section. Problem is that many businesses / galleries here are also regular members as well, like me, and from time to time have personal pieces to sell and are unable to list in this section period. I believe we should be able to list them as such here and as long as it is not abused, the system should work fine. If suspect, any mod can bump it to either section easily. Not a big deal either way. Moving on... Unless there is an automated rule preventing you from raising sales threads then I think as long as you are clear it is a personal sale you have every right to raise one - its about transparency and honesty. Obviously if a gallery was having a personal sale every other day and the same pieces were being sold on their website then that would be technically referred to as 'taking the piss' - not, I hasten to add, anything I'd ever expect BAA to do as they are a professional outfit - just making the point
Appreciate the kind words but yes, as of the forum change about a year ago "gallery" accounts are unable physically to post in the sales thread. I agree with you 100% and it has definitely led to several personal sales I have had in the past year to be missed here as it wasn't proper to list under gallery sales either
Had this discussion in depth about a year ago when they changed this rule and only allowed "businesses" to post in the "gallery sales" section. Problem is that many businesses / galleries here are also regular members as well, like me, and from time to time have personal pieces to sell and are unable to list in this section period. I believe we should be able to list them as such here and as long as it is not abused, the system should work fine. If suspect, any mod can bump it to either section easily. Not a big deal either way. Moving on... Unless there is an automated rule preventing you from raising sales threads then I think as long as you are clear it is a personal sale you have every right to raise one - its about transparency and honesty. Obviously if a gallery was having a personal sale every other day and the same pieces were being sold on their website then that would be technically referred to as 'taking the piss' - not, I hasten to add, anything I'd ever expect BAA to do as they are a professional outfit - just making the point Appreciate the kind words but yes, as of the forum change about a year ago "gallery" accounts are unable physically to post in the sales thread. I agree with you 100% and it has definitely led to several personal sales I have had in the past year to be missed here as it wasn't proper to list under gallery sales either |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 19:31:18 GMT 1, Im totally with Black Apple on this...im a dealer but also a collector and a long time member of this forum and would like to offer up for sale items from my personal collection every now and then...
Im totally with Black Apple on this...im a dealer but also a collector and a long time member of this forum and would like to offer up for sale items from my personal collection every now and then... |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by daniel3886 on Oct 13, 2015 19:48:29 GMT 1, I for one have no problem with anyone offering art for sale on here. Galleries could have their own threads and if it's something from a personal collection it should be in the for sale section and priced accordingly.
I for one have no problem with anyone offering art for sale on here. Galleries could have their own threads and if it's something from a personal collection it should be in the for sale section and priced accordingly.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Ruggs on Oct 13, 2015 20:05:07 GMT 1, Im totally with Black Apple on this...im a dealer but also a collector and a long time member of this forum and would like to offer up for sale items from my personal collection every now and then...
Im totally with Black Apple on this...im a dealer but also a collector and a long time member of this forum and would like to offer up for sale items from my personal collection every now and then... Belongs the gallery owner is honest enough to advertise their gallery piece via a dedicated sub-board 'Art Consultancy/Online Gallery' section and/or their own private piece via the normal 'For Sale' section I don't have a problem with that at all. |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Coach on Oct 13, 2015 20:17:42 GMT 1, Im totally with Black Apple on this...im a dealer but also a collector and a long time member of this forum and would like to offer up for sale items from my personal collection every now and then...
Can't see any problem with that.
Im totally with Black Apple on this...im a dealer but also a collector and a long time member of this forum and would like to offer up for sale items from my personal collection every now and then... Can't see any problem with that. |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by rebelate on Oct 14, 2015 0:22:53 GMT 1, The only problem I have with this idea is that "Gallery sub-board" pricing would directly effect "private sale sub-forum" pricing. You could, theoretically, wait for a gallery to post something for sale for $5000 and then undercut them and post it for $4500.
There is only 1 way this will pay out, private sales prices will be inflated and ultimately become one with gallery asking prices. Every private SELLER will reference GALLERY pricing on the sub-board "next door" in order to justify their asking price. (Sure the argument of something is worth what someone will pay for it will come into play - but there is no rhyme or reason when it comes to Banksy asking prices and we've seen that day in and day out).
I don't think gallery sales of any kind should be advertised on the forums, they're a gallery/business and should advertise via their own outlets... besides all that, I feel like it makes this place more of a sales destination rather than a community.
Maybe a good happy medium is to create a "off site sales" sub-board like Thegiant.org where people (and galleries) can link to outside web addresses (ebay, craigslist, gallery.com's) when something is offered/or becomes available.
Just my 2 cents.
The only problem I have with this idea is that "Gallery sub-board" pricing would directly effect "private sale sub-forum" pricing. You could, theoretically, wait for a gallery to post something for sale for $5000 and then undercut them and post it for $4500.
There is only 1 way this will pay out, private sales prices will be inflated and ultimately become one with gallery asking prices. Every private SELLER will reference GALLERY pricing on the sub-board "next door" in order to justify their asking price. (Sure the argument of something is worth what someone will pay for it will come into play - but there is no rhyme or reason when it comes to Banksy asking prices and we've seen that day in and day out).
I don't think gallery sales of any kind should be advertised on the forums, they're a gallery/business and should advertise via their own outlets... besides all that, I feel like it makes this place more of a sales destination rather than a community.
Maybe a good happy medium is to create a "off site sales" sub-board like Thegiant.org where people (and galleries) can link to outside web addresses (ebay, craigslist, gallery.com's) when something is offered/or becomes available.
Just my 2 cents.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by rebelate on Oct 14, 2015 0:32:08 GMT 1, Had this discussion in depth about a year ago when they changed this rule and only allowed "businesses" to post in the "gallery sales" section. Problem is that many businesses / galleries here are also regular members as well, like me, and from time to time have personal pieces to sell and are unable to list in this section period. I believe we should be able to list them as such here and as long as it is not abused, the system should work fine. If suspect, any mod can bump it to either section easily. Not a big deal either way. Moving on... Unless there is an automated rule preventing you from raising sales threads then I think as long as you are clear it is a personal sale you have every right to raise one - its about transparency and honesty. Obviously if a gallery was having a personal sale every other day and the same pieces were being sold on their website then that would be technically referred to as 'taking the piss' - not, I hasten to add, anything I'd ever expect BAA to do as they are a professional outfit - just making the point
Had this discussion in depth about a year ago when they changed this rule and only allowed "businesses" to post in the "gallery sales" section. Problem is that many businesses / galleries here are also regular members as well, like me, and from time to time have personal pieces to sell and are unable to list in this section period. I believe we should be able to list them as such here and as long as it is not abused, the system should work fine. If suspect, any mod can bump it to either section easily. Not a big deal either way. Moving on... Unless there is an automated rule preventing you from raising sales threads then I think as long as you are clear it is a personal sale you have every right to raise one - its about transparency and honesty. Obviously if a gallery was having a personal sale every other day and the same pieces were being sold on their website then that would be technically referred to as 'taking the piss' - not, I hasten to add, anything I'd ever expect BAA to do as they are a professional outfit - just making the point I understand what you're saying 11 but I can't come up with a single reason why a Gallery would offer something up "privately" without first going through their gallery outlets/client list. Whether it's a newsletter, emails to clients, or their .com. Unless of course they aren't really a gallery and just one of those .com's made for their private collection with inflated asking prices? That's a hybrid collector/flipper type of business model that I don't necessarily think will work when applied to this forum because it's too close to home...Kind of like "don't shit where you eat"...but I might be wrong though? |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by savannahsam on Oct 14, 2015 0:39:17 GMT 1, The only problem I have with this idea is that "Gallery sub-board" pricing would directly effect "private sale sub-forum" pricing. You could, theoretically, wait for a gallery to post something for sale for $5000 and then undercut them and post it for $4500. There is only 1 way this will pay out, private sales prices will be inflated and ultimately become one with gallery asking prices. Every private SELLER will reference GALLERY pricing on the sub-board "next door" in order to justify their asking price. (Sure the argument of something is worth what someone will pay for it will come into play - but there is no rhyme or reason when it comes to Banksy asking prices and we've seen that day in and day out). I don't think gallery sales of any kind should be advertised on the forums, they're a gallery/business and should advertise via their own outlets... besides all that, I feel like it makes this place more of a sales destination rather than a community. Maybe a good happy medium is to create a "off site sales" sub-board like Thegiant.org where people (and galleries) can link to outside web addresses (ebay, craigslist, gallery.com's) when something is offered/or becomes available. Just my 2 cents.
You've become disillusioned in the way you think as this forum only makes up for
a small piece of the Banksy market. I'm curious what makes you the expert on all
on things Banksy and how his work should be priced in the current market? Do you
have a crystal ball that gathers all of your research information then spits out 6 month average
prices of every Banksy print ever made? YOU are the authority when it comes to all things
auction wise as well! I think you should quit your day job and just become a full time Banksy
Speculator think of all the speculation you'd be in Heaven! The Dream Job!
The only problem I have with this idea is that "Gallery sub-board" pricing would directly effect "private sale sub-forum" pricing. You could, theoretically, wait for a gallery to post something for sale for $5000 and then undercut them and post it for $4500. There is only 1 way this will pay out, private sales prices will be inflated and ultimately become one with gallery asking prices. Every private SELLER will reference GALLERY pricing on the sub-board "next door" in order to justify their asking price. (Sure the argument of something is worth what someone will pay for it will come into play - but there is no rhyme or reason when it comes to Banksy asking prices and we've seen that day in and day out). I don't think gallery sales of any kind should be advertised on the forums, they're a gallery/business and should advertise via their own outlets... besides all that, I feel like it makes this place more of a sales destination rather than a community. Maybe a good happy medium is to create a "off site sales" sub-board like Thegiant.org where people (and galleries) can link to outside web addresses (ebay, craigslist, gallery.com's) when something is offered/or becomes available. Just my 2 cents. You can't control the Banksy market! People are going to pay no matter what.... You've become disillusioned in the way you think as this forum only makes up for a small piece of the Banksy market. I'm curious what makes you the expert on all on things Banksy and how his work should be priced in the current market? Do you have a crystal ball that gathers all of your research information then spits out 6 month average prices of every Banksy print ever made? YOU are the authority when it comes to all things auction wise as well! I think you should quit your day job and just become a full time Banksy Speculator think of all the speculation you'd be in Heaven! The Dream Job! |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by rebelate on Oct 14, 2015 0:53:23 GMT 1, You can't control the Banksy market! People are going to pay no matter what.... You've become disillusioned in the way you think as this forum only makes up for a small piece of the Banksy market. I'm curious what makes you the expert on all on things Banksy and how his work should be priced in the current market? Do you have a crystal ball that gathers all of your research information then spits out 6 month average prices of every Banksy print ever made? YOU are the authority when it comes to all things auction wise as well! I think you should quit your day job and just become a full time Banksy Speculator think of all the speculation you'd be in Heaven! The Dream Job!
P.S. Anytime I've given my opinion on value or a response to "price checks"- I've always backed it up with factual data and you still get you pissed off. I'm cool with you getting all riled up for no reason. Stick around for a bit ya?
You can't control the Banksy market! People are going to pay no matter what.... You've become disillusioned in the way you think as this forum only makes up for a small piece of the Banksy market. I'm curious what makes you the expert on all on things Banksy and how his work should be priced in the current market? Do you have a crystal ball that gathers all of your research information then spits out 6 month average prices of every Banksy print ever made? YOU are the authority when it comes to all things auction wise as well! I think you should quit your day job and just become a full time Banksy Speculator think of all the speculation you'd be in Heaven! The Dream Job! I seriously wish you never get banned LOL ;P You crack me up every time you post something. It's like you're the opinion police, you openly admit to me that you get Banksy's for "cheap" and you turn around and sell them to suckers for thousands more and that your collection is worth 2.3 Million USD dollars...yet you have a problem with me speaking my mind or giving my two cents. I love it. P.S. Anytime I've given my opinion on value or a response to "price checks"- I've always backed it up with factual data and you still get you pissed off. I'm cool with you getting all riled up for no reason. Stick around for a bit ya? |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Armagideon Times on Oct 14, 2015 4:49:37 GMT 1, how much?
how much?
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Dr Plip on Oct 14, 2015 9:20:52 GMT 1, Come on now, it's too early for folk to be getting their dicks out. Let's just share our opinions politely. We won't always agree, but let's not make things personal.
Come on now, it's too early for folk to be getting their dicks out. Let's just share our opinions politely. We won't always agree, but let's not make things personal. |
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Coach on Oct 14, 2015 9:58:31 GMT 1, Less rules!!!
If a gallery owner is taking the piss we can say so.
Vast majority won't.
Self police.
Less rules!!!
If a gallery owner is taking the piss we can say so.
Vast majority won't.
Self police.
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