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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by pottsy11 on Jun 26, 2020 4:30:47 GMT 1, Thankyou dear brillobox. Although matt burn would be annoying for a collector like myself who has gone out his way only to acquire the minty minty works. Its becoming less and less an issue for many others. These pieces are very HOT at the moment.  He has spoken kindly on you. Please use the attached certificate when making any sale. If you sell through any of the major auction houses, they WILL require this. If at some point the piece changes ownership, please contact me directly and for a small fee we can change the owner of the certificate.
Thankyou dear brillobox. Although matt burn would be annoying for a collector like myself who has gone out his way only to acquire the minty minty works. Its becoming less and less an issue for many others. These pieces are very HOT at the moment. He has spoken kindly on you. Please use the attached certificate when making any sale. If you sell through any of the major auction houses, they WILL require this. If at some point the piece changes ownership, please contact me directly and for a small fee we can change the owner of the certificate. Knob |
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met
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by met on Jun 27, 2020 1:09:48 GMT 1, What if the print has a Matt burn , how much does that affect the value please ? Thanks. Matt burn? Ugh! Nobody will touch that until LV90210 has declared it โhot hotโ or โnot hotโ May LV90210 look kindly on you. Knob
 He has spoken kindly on you. Please use the attached certificate when making any sale. If you sell through any of the major auction houses, they WILL require this. If at some point the piece changes ownership, please contact me directly and for a small fee we can change the owner of the certificate. Knob
Unfortunate responses to a bit of lighthearted humour.
The issue has been raised before* about communications in writing: A reader doesn't hear the vocal inflections of the other person. Nor can they see their body language or facial expression. It increases the likelihood of both their words and intended tone being misinterpreted.
We've all seen cases where an online joke or gentle ribbing is mistaken for a serious comment, especially by those who are defensive in temperament โ where a situation escalates unnecessarily, from nothing.
And since each of us is aware of the risk, my suggestion is that we all be generous in spirit. By giving others the benefit of the doubt whenever there is any ambiguity about their motivation or intent.
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In this particular case, I picked up zero criticism of you.
If anything, @brillobox was satirising another member โ a bore whose contribution to the forum mostly consists of crass, self-interested harping about rising Banksy prices. Those posts are uninsightful, tedious and (worst of all) as predictable as clockwork.
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But even if someone had been critical of you, the elegant response is arguably to laugh it off.
To the extent possible, I myself try to emulate the splendid unfazed approach of H.R., when a projectile (probably a beer can or bottle) was thrown at his head. See below at 0:14.
Bad Brains - Pay To Cum (Live at CBGB, NYC, 1979)
- uploaded by DaisyPumpkin23
What if the print has a Matt burn , how much does that affect the value please ? Thanks. Matt burn? Ugh! Nobody will touch that until LV90210 has declared it โhot hotโ or โnot hotโ May LV90210 look kindly on you. Knob He has spoken kindly on you. Please use the attached certificate when making any sale. If you sell through any of the major auction houses, they WILL require this. If at some point the piece changes ownership, please contact me directly and for a small fee we can change the owner of the certificate. Knob Unfortunate responses to a bit of lighthearted humour. The issue has been raised before * about communications in writing: A reader doesn't hear the vocal inflections of the other person. Nor can they see their body language or facial expression. It increases the likelihood of both their words and intended tone being misinterpreted. We've all seen cases where an online joke or gentle ribbing is mistaken for a serious comment, especially by those who are defensive in temperament โ where a situation escalates unnecessarily, from nothing. And since each of us is aware of the risk, my suggestion is that we all be generous in spirit. By giving others the benefit of the doubt whenever there is any ambiguity about their motivation or intent. __________ In this particular case, I picked up zero criticism of you. If anything, @brillobox was satirising another member โ a bore whose contribution to the forum mostly consists of crass, self-interested harping about rising Ban ksy prices. Those posts are uninsightful, tedious and (worst of all) as predictable as clockwork. __________ But even if someone had been critical of you, the elegant response is arguably to laugh it off. To the extent possible, I myself try to emulate the splendid unfazed approach of H.R., when a projectile (probably a beer can or bottle) was thrown at his head. See below at 0:14. Bad Brains - Pay To Cum (Live at CBGB, NYC, 1979)- uploaded by DaisyPumpkin23 |
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pottsy11
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by pottsy11 on Jun 27, 2020 3:51:36 GMT 1, Sorry , another genuine thread hijacked by fools . Read some of their comments on other people's threads before you criticise me please . Thank you .
Sorry , another genuine thread hijacked by fools . Read some of their comments on other people's threads before you criticise me please . Thank you .
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met
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by met on Jun 28, 2020 4:56:55 GMT 1, Sorry , another genuine thread hijacked by fools . Read some of their comments on other people's threads before you criticise me please . Thank you .
There was initial hesitation on my part in continuing to engage here. My main point was already stated, and I'm conscious that prolonged exchanges are often annoyingly repetitive. That, in itself, can be counterproductive. It is always a balancing act, isn't it? One which requires each side to make a judgement call about when it's best to step away โ at least when the goal is to be persuasive.
On this occasion, I felt there was potential benefit in acknowledging and addressing your reply. This also seemed like the most courteous approach.
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After reading your reply, I did go through plenty of comments by @brillobox elsewhere, but didn't find anything especially egregious.
Yet what I believe is most relevant is how they commented in this thread. All I see in this thread is humorous posts, which others also found amusing, and which are in no way disparaging to you.
That is why your "Knob" responses stuck out. They came across to me as having been written by someone who (for reasons remaining unclear) got flustered and chose to lash out. It felt like an unpleasant overreaction. The subsequent doubling down, referring to other members here as fools, seemed a little unwarranted as well.
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Now, I fully accept that my perception of your mindset could be inaccurate โ maybe miles away from the reality of how you were feeling at the time of writing. Perhaps you were in fact calm rather than agitated, and genuinely believed your responses were measured under the circumstances.
If the situation has indeed been misinterpreted by me, then I'm happy to be corrected. Getting it right is far more important than being right.
That actually ties up with the very point I was trying to make about @brillobox's posts in this thread:
If it remains possible and reasonable to view those posts as merely attempts at humour, then it is also overly defensive to assume negative intent being directed towards you.
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I hope the above musings will be deemed balanced and not unfair.
Sorry , another genuine thread hijacked by fools . Read some of their comments on other people's threads before you criticise me please . Thank you . There was initial hesitation on my part in continuing to engage here. My main point was already stated, and I'm conscious that prolonged exchanges are often annoyingly repetitive. That, in itself, can be counterproductive. It is always a balancing act, isn't it? One which requires each side to make a judgement call about when it's best to step away โ at least when the goal is to be persuasive. On this occasion, I felt there was potential benefit in acknowledging and addressing your reply. This also seemed like the most courteous approach. __________ After reading your reply, I did go through plenty of comments by @brillobox elsewhere, but didn't find anything especially egregious. Yet what I believe is most relevant is how they commented in this thread. All I see in this thread is humorous posts, which others also found amusing, and which are in no way disparaging to you. That is why your "Knob" responses stuck out. They came across to me as having been written by someone who (for reasons remaining unclear) got flustered and chose to lash out. It felt like an unpleasant overreaction. The subsequent doubling down, referring to other members here as fools, seemed a little unwarranted as well. __________ Now, I fully accept that my perception of your mindset could be inaccurate โ maybe miles away from the reality of how you were feeling at the time of writing. Perhaps you were in fact calm rather than agitated, and genuinely believed your responses were measured under the circumstances. If the situation has indeed been misinterpreted by me, then I'm happy to be corrected. Getting it right is far more important than being right. That actually ties up with the very point I was trying to make about @brillobox's posts in this thread: If it remains possible and reasonable to view those posts as merely attempts at humour, then it is also overly defensive to assume negative intent being directed towards you.__________ I hope the above musings will be deemed balanced and not unfair. |
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by lorraballs on Jun 28, 2020 18:11:26 GMT 1, Sorry , another genuine thread hijacked by fools . Read some of their comments on other people's threads before you criticise me please . Thank you . There was initial hesitation on my part in continuing to engage here. My main point was already stated, and I'm conscious that prolonged exchanges are often annoyingly repetitive. That, in itself, can be counterproductive. It is always a balancing act, isn't it? One which requires each side to make a judgement call about when it's best to step away โ at least when the goal is to be persuasive. On this occasion, I felt there was potential benefit in acknowledging and addressing your reply. This also seemed like the most courteous approach. __________ After reading your reply, I did go through plenty of comments by @brillobox elsewhere, but didn't find anything especially egregious. Yet what I believe is most relevant is how they commented in this thread. All I see in this thread is humorous posts, which others also found amusing, and which are in no way disparaging to you. That is why your "Knob" responses stuck out. They came across to me as having been written by someone who (for reasons remaining unclear) got flustered and chose to lash out. It felt like an unpleasant overreaction. The subsequent doubling down, referring to other members here as fools, seemed a little unwarranted as well. __________ Now, I fully accept that my perception of your mindset could be inaccurate โ maybe miles away from the reality of how you were feeling at the time of writing. Perhaps you were in fact calm rather than agitated, and genuinely believed your responses were measured under the circumstances. If the situation has indeed been misinterpreted by me, then I'm happy to be corrected. Getting it right is far more important than being right. That actually ties up with the very point I was trying to make about @brillobox 's posts in this thread: If it remains possible and reasonable to view those posts as merely attempts at humour, then it is also overly defensive to assume negative intent being directed towards you.__________ I hope the above musings will be deemed balanced and not unfair.
Sorry , another genuine thread hijacked by fools . Read some of their comments on other people's threads before you criticise me please . Thank you . There was initial hesitation on my part in continuing to engage here. My main point was already stated, and I'm conscious that prolonged exchanges are often annoyingly repetitive. That, in itself, can be counterproductive. It is always a balancing act, isn't it? One which requires each side to make a judgement call about when it's best to step away โ at least when the goal is to be persuasive. On this occasion, I felt there was potential benefit in acknowledging and addressing your reply. This also seemed like the most courteous approach. __________ After reading your reply, I did go through plenty of comments by @brillobox elsewhere, but didn't find anything especially egregious. Yet what I believe is most relevant is how they commented in this thread. All I see in this thread is humorous posts, which others also found amusing, and which are in no way disparaging to you. That is why your "Knob" responses stuck out. They came across to me as having been written by someone who (for reasons remaining unclear) got flustered and chose to lash out. It felt like an unpleasant overreaction. The subsequent doubling down, referring to other members here as fools, seemed a little unwarranted as well. __________ Now, I fully accept that my perception of your mindset could be inaccurate โ maybe miles away from the reality of how you were feeling at the time of writing. Perhaps you were in fact calm rather than agitated, and genuinely believed your responses were measured under the circumstances. If the situation has indeed been misinterpreted by me, then I'm happy to be corrected. Getting it right is far more important than being right. That actually ties up with the very point I was trying to make about @brillobox 's posts in this thread: If it remains possible and reasonable to view those posts as merely attempts at humour, then it is also overly defensive to assume negative intent being directed towards you.__________ I hope the above musings will be deemed balanced and not unfair. Tโing is, Met, whilst I am a huge admirer of your musings, I feel that this observation ignores the experiential evidence on this forum. There are a far larger percentage of knobs here than in most sections of society. So, whilst my assumption is that the chat was not โknobbishโ, there is still a very real statistical possibility that it was... |
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by Ponyboy Curtis on Jun 28, 2020 20:04:55 GMT 1, it would be nob anyway round my way. Unless you're calling them a type of handle which is certainly less offensive.
it would be nob anyway round my way. Unless you're calling them a type of handle which is certainly less offensive.
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 21:51:16 GMT 1, Still looking for! ๐
Still looking for! ๐
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met
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by met on Jul 7, 2020 11:12:58 GMT 1, Looks like a state side trade isnโt going to happen. Open to cash deals.
What would happen if you tried to consign Banksy's Golf Sale with Christie's or Sotheby's in Hong Kong?
A possible response might now be something like, "The print you're showing us does not exist. Nor has it ever existed. Please leave the premises."
Looks like a state side trade isnโt going to happen. Open to cash deals. What would happen if you tried to consign Ban ksy's Golf Sale with Christie's or Sotheby's in Hong Kong? A possible response might now be something like, "The print you're showing us does not exist. Nor has it ever existed. Please leave the premises." |
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by dotdot on Jul 7, 2020 17:14:59 GMT 1, existential taoism.
existential taoism.
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jp226
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by jp226 on Jul 8, 2020 21:18:00 GMT 1, SOLD
SOLD
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by cest on Jul 8, 2020 23:31:40 GMT 1,
This was sold forever ago right?
This was sold forever ago right? |
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jp226
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by jp226 on Jul 9, 2020 4:32:21 GMT 1, This was sold forever ago right?
This was sold forever ago right? Yep. I just kept getting messages about it. So I wanted to clarify it's sold. |
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by lv90210 on Jul 17, 2020 7:45:01 GMT 1, Golf Sales seem HOT at the moment.
Golf Sales seem HOT at the moment.
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by Ponyboy Curtis on Jul 17, 2020 9:38:40 GMT 1, Golf Sales seem HOT at the moment.
Golf Sales seem HOT at the moment. It was just a matter of time IMO. I think it's a great topical image. |
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lv90210
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by lv90210 on Jul 17, 2020 10:53:55 GMT 1, Golf Sales seem HOT at the moment. It was just a matter of time IMO. I think it's a great topical image.
Golf Sales seem HOT at the moment. It was just a matter of time IMO. I think it's a great topical image. me2. |
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cest
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by cest on Jul 17, 2020 11:55:01 GMT 1, Love my wsm. Sooo dark, such a daily reminder
Love my wsm. Sooo dark, such a daily reminder
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 12:02:36 GMT 1, Still searching both of them ๐
Still searching both of them ๐
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 12:03:30 GMT 1, Love my wsm. Sooo dark, such a daily reminder
Can imagine, Iโm enjoying my ๐ฃ Hugger everyday, so a WSM or Golf Sale would be looking nice.
Love my wsm. Sooo dark, such a daily reminder Can imagine, Iโm enjoying my ๐ฃ Hugger everyday, so a WSM or Golf Sale would be looking nice. |
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cest
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by cest on Jul 17, 2020 13:07:15 GMT 1, Love my wsm. Sooo dark, such a daily reminder Can imagine, Iโm enjoying my ๐ฃ Hugger everyday, so a WSM or Golf Sale would be looking nice.
Not to be a detractor... I had a choice to buy both. GS is cheeky, but is not as powerful a statement
Love my wsm. Sooo dark, such a daily reminder Can imagine, Iโm enjoying my ๐ฃ Hugger everyday, so a WSM or Golf Sale would be looking nice. Not to be a detractor... I had a choice to buy both. GS is cheeky, but is not as powerful a statement |
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Lazarus II
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by Lazarus II on Jul 17, 2020 13:19:41 GMT 1, Can imagine, Iโm enjoying my ๐ฃ Hugger everyday, so a WSM or Golf Sale would be looking nice. Not to be a detractor... I had a choice to buy both. GS is cheeky, but is not as powerful a statement
try telling that to a Chinese student in Beijing in 1989.
Can imagine, Iโm enjoying my ๐ฃ Hugger everyday, so a WSM or Golf Sale would be looking nice. Not to be a detractor... I had a choice to buy both. GS is cheeky, but is not as powerful a statement try telling that to a Chinese student in Beijing in 1989. |
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 13:22:24 GMT 1, Can imagine, Iโm enjoying my ๐ฃ Hugger everyday, so a WSM or Golf Sale would be looking nice. Not to be a detractor... I had a choice to buy both. GS is cheeky, but is not as powerful a statement I would have thought a print based on Tiananmen square would have been a more powerful statement than an old codger sat on a bench?!
Can imagine, Iโm enjoying my ๐ฃ Hugger everyday, so a WSM or Golf Sale would be looking nice. Not to be a detractor... I had a choice to buy both. GS is cheeky, but is not as powerful a statement I would have thought a print based on Tiananmen square would have been a more powerful statement than an old codger sat on a bench?!
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cest
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by cest on Jul 17, 2020 20:54:34 GMT 1, Not to be a detractor... I had a choice to buy both. GS is cheeky, but is not as powerful a statement try telling that to a Chinese student in Beijing in 1989.
Yes, the base content is good but it makes it whimsical, and not as dark as statement as it should be. To me it's barely satirical.
I would be very interested to know what the impression is of someone who is very close to the tiananmen square massacre on this piece.
You can clearly see I'm just not impressed by it. Napalm on the other hand, that punches you in the gut.
Not to be a detractor... I had a choice to buy both. GS is cheeky, but is not as powerful a statement try telling that to a Chinese student in Beijing in 1989. Yes, the base content is good but it makes it whimsical, and not as dark as statement as it should be. To me it's barely satirical. I would be very interested to know what the impression is of someone who is very close to the tiananmen square massacre on this piece. You can clearly see I'm just not impressed by it. Napalm on the other hand, that punches you in the gut. |
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Lazarus II
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by Lazarus II on Jul 17, 2020 21:02:01 GMT 1, try telling that to a Chinese student in Beijing in 1989. Yes, the bass content is good but it makes it whimsical, and not as dark as statement as it should be. To me it's barely satirical. I would be very interested to know what the impression is of someone who is very close to the tiananmen square massacre on this piece. You can clearly see I'm just not impressed by it. Napalm on the other hand, that punches you in the gut.
i suggest you canvas opinions of Bowling Club members of Somerset for their opinions on WSM.
try telling that to a Chinese student in Beijing in 1989. Yes, the bass content is good but it makes it whimsical, and not as dark as statement as it should be. To me it's barely satirical. I would be very interested to know what the impression is of someone who is very close to the tiananmen square massacre on this piece. You can clearly see I'm just not impressed by it. Napalm on the other hand, that punches you in the gut. i suggest you canvas opinions of Bowling Club members of Somerset for their opinions on WSM. |
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by Terry Fuckwitt on Sept 7, 2020 16:31:17 GMT 1, Hello, long time lurker here.ย I've been looking to buy my first Banksy and now I got offered a Banksy Golf Sale US. It has some slight condition issues on its back. It's been to the restaurator once.ย The front is fresh and you wouldn't know it. The back has some tape marks. Here is the best photo I have.  What is the value of it? Is that a no go to buy? Can that be restored? Thank you very much Lucko0r
If the front looks good, then I wouldn't worry about the back. A lot of these will have some tape marks on them. Just make sure there is not any noticeable skinning from the front if held up to the light.
Hello, long time lurker here.ย I've been looking to buy my first Banksy and now I got offered a Banksy Golf Sale US. It has some slight condition issues on its back. It's been to the restaurator once.ย The front is fresh and you wouldn't know it. The back has some tape marks. Here is the best photo I have. What is the value of it? Is that a no go to buy? Can that be restored? Thank you very much Lucko0r If the front looks good, then I wouldn't worry about the back. A lot of these will have some tape marks on them. Just make sure there is not any noticeable skinning from the front if held up to the light. |
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by coller on Sept 7, 2020 17:35:52 GMT 1, wouldn't stop me from buying at all as long as the front looks completely normal and what's happening on the back won't affect the front over time.
just make sure it has a verified pest control COA, otherwise walk away.
good luck!
wouldn't stop me from buying at all as long as the front looks completely normal and what's happening on the back won't affect the front over time.
just make sure it has a verified pest control COA, otherwise walk away.
good luck!
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by lucko0r on Sept 7, 2020 17:47:40 GMT 1, thank you so much for your feedback.
So what the going rate for this? Closer to 10k, 15k, 20k?
Pretty excited right now.
thank you so much for your feedback.
So what the going rate for this? Closer to 10k, 15k, 20k?
Pretty excited right now.
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by Lazarus II on Sept 7, 2020 18:04:39 GMT 1, Ive made many a decent purchase thanks to marks on back of prints whilst the front have been perfect condition. Got a LN on ebay 5-6 years ago that im sure the reverse deterred a few buyers. Picked up a Faile Dog on here after original buyer pulled out because of some tape on the back.
Ive made many a decent purchase thanks to marks on back of prints whilst the front have been perfect condition. Got a LN on ebay 5-6 years ago that im sure the reverse deterred a few buyers. Picked up a Faile Dog on here after original buyer pulled out because of some tape on the back.
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by lucko0r on Sept 7, 2020 18:18:11 GMT 1,
I just donโt know How much the condition lowers itโs value.
I just donโt know How much the condition lowers itโs value. |
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coller
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Banksy Golf Sale Print, by coller on Sept 7, 2020 18:26:32 GMT 1, I just donโt know How much the condition lowers itโs value.
that said, i'd do a little more research and not only rely on banksy-value. i find their prices to be inflated, and i don't really understand why the site incorporates all of the auction house premiums/fees, etc.
I just donโt know How much the condition lowers itโs value. these days, not much apparently. that said, i'd do a little more research and not only rely on banksy-value. i find their prices to be inflated, and i don't really understand why the site incorporates all of the auction house premiums/fees, etc. |
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