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Separation Wall Art, by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 19:25:13 GMT 1, I'm surprised this thread doesn't already exist?! So thought I would create it as a place to post your work or your favourite pieces you saw on your visit. Makes sense to separate the actual art on the wall from the Walled Off and Boxset threads.
I'll post my piece once I revisit in march. In the meantime, I'll kick off with the most poignant piece I saw on my first visit:
I'm surprised this thread doesn't already exist?! So thought I would create it as a place to post your work or your favourite pieces you saw on your visit. Makes sense to separate the actual art on the wall from the Walled Off and Boxset threads. I'll post my piece once I revisit in march. In the meantime, I'll kick off with the most poignant piece I saw on my first visit:
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Separation Wall Art, by moron on Jan 21, 2018 13:10:52 GMT 1, Whitefish might post a few images
Whitefish might post a few images
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Separation Wall Art, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 23:52:47 GMT 1,
Great thread idea.
It's not really a separation wall though, is it? It's quite a bit more than that
A better title would be
Apartheid wall
Great thread idea.
It's not really a separation wall though, is it? It's quite a bit more than that
A better title would be
Apartheid wall
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Separation Wall Art, by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 10:39:20 GMT 1, Great thread idea. It's not really a separation wall though, is it? It's quite a bit more than that A better title would be Apartheid wall Hey bren, thanks. There are several names given to the wall but Separation wall seems to be the most widely used, most of the locals I spoke to called it that and even the excellent guide on the walled tour. So, I was kinda taking my lead from the Palestinians. I reckon there must be some forum members, who visited the hotel just after it opened, must have some cracking images of work.
Great thread idea. It's not really a separation wall though, is it? It's quite a bit more than that A better title would be Apartheid wall Hey bren, thanks. There are several names given to the wall but Separation wall seems to be the most widely used, most of the locals I spoke to called it that and even the excellent guide on the walled tour. So, I was kinda taking my lead from the Palestinians. I reckon there must be some forum members, who visited the hotel just after it opened, must have some cracking images of work.
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Separation Wall Art, by irl1 on Jan 23, 2018 19:13:29 GMT 1,
I think this is one of the best
I think this is one of the best
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Separation Wall Art, by irl1 on Jan 23, 2018 19:17:07 GMT 1,
This is the last Banksy done just in December 2017. Sorry about the shadow on it
This is the last Banksy done just in December 2017. Sorry about the shadow on it
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Separation Wall Art, by irl1 on Jan 23, 2018 19:24:08 GMT 1,
This one just goes to show you how life goes on. These are the press guys all dressed in bullet proof vests and helmets. Just to the left of them the soldiers are shooting tear gas at the crowds and then there's me, taking photographs.
This one just goes to show you how life goes on. These are the press guys all dressed in bullet proof vests and helmets. Just to the left of them the soldiers are shooting tear gas at the crowds and then there's me, taking photographs.
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Separation Wall Art, by irl1 on Jan 23, 2018 19:35:07 GMT 1,
They would have to park their car there!
They would have to park their car there!
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Separation Wall Art, by RBK on Jan 23, 2018 21:24:47 GMT 1,
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Separation Wall Art, by Aubrey 245 on Jan 23, 2018 21:26:31 GMT 1,
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Separation Wall Art, by jp on Jan 24, 2018 2:23:59 GMT 1, 2 of my favorites...
2 of my favorites...
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Separation Wall Art, by irl1 on Jan 24, 2018 11:09:28 GMT 1, If you come out of the hotel and go straight along the wall were the big Trump one is, then take the left along the wall, its just there, about a 1 min walk from the hotel.
If you come out of the hotel and go straight along the wall were the big Trump one is, then take the left along the wall, its just there, about a 1 min walk from the hotel.
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Separation Wall Art, by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 20:20:05 GMT 1, โ๏ธ Eloquent post @ashton2 ๐
While I had the Israeli/Palestinian wall in mind, when creating the thread, I don't see why it has to just be that wall; we're not 'wall-racist', we hate all Separation Walls.
โ๏ธ Eloquent post @ashton2 ๐
While I had the Israeli/Palestinian wall in mind, when creating the thread, I don't see why it has to just be that wall; we're not 'wall-racist', we hate all Separation Walls.
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Separation Wall Art, by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 23:06:46 GMT 1, Is this thread restricted to Israel/Palestine wall or is the term "separation wall" mean all separation walls or any structure around the world ? ************** @bren - I don't think it should be called "apartheid wall". Apartheid is South-African word meaning separation for sure, and there is indeed lot of similarities between both, which are all reprehensible indeed... but historian and others would prefer people not to use or appropriate the term Apartheid which is specific to South Africa and has is own context ("separation" is preferred; apartheid with a small "a" or "apartheid-like"). Nowadays, people are prompt to use terms out of their context and ends up mixing everything and forgetting that every problem has in own history, context, etc. They do this because to globalise their message and broaden their audience. Just to illustrate this, England was doing exactly the same thing where I live and they actually implemented an apartheid-like regime in the country (different place for blacks and whites, lot of fences and security, curfew for locals, work permit for locals from white employer allowing them to walk freely, people being bitten and killed, implementation of concentration camp, etc.) which it is still there nowadays, some places are only occupied by white farmers and you can feel it, they don't like much colored people and dreaming of return of the old good British Empire. Oddly, nobody will use the term "Apartheid" here or say they knew apartheid because Israel is very influential, well anchored and well appreciated, thanks thanks to decades of intensive development program (especially in agriculture and horticulture) and they ensure security (secret services/Mossad, fight against terrorism, etc.)... and the population here are religious fanatics (thanks to the English missionaries) and, believe it or not, there is a strong theological connection between old African religions (such as coptic - from Egypt to Soudan), Christian evangelist (old testament and stuff) and Jewish people, and they are very conservative. So there you are, a country which has been through apartheid-like regime for more than 3 decades but won't dare using terms like Apartheid for Israel. Very complex indeed ! For sure, pre-Apartheid South Africa has downgraded their relation with Israel to the bottom low... as they are calling for ban of Israeli products and are not shy to use the term "Apartheid". And that's where I go back to the beginning of my post, is it wise to do so? No, I don't think, because the use of term Apartheid applies to a well-defined context and any person using it are doing it for political or whatever agenda they have. I know, heavy heavy heavy
Great post, thanks for taking the time. it got my little mind whirring a bit. I just do not think the name separation wall explains it. Apartheid wall does.
The name Separation wall is a sanitised name and makes it sound like its ok,the name just rolls off the tongue like it normal. The wall is an absolute disgrace so it should have a emotive name to explain its wrongness.
Prison wall would also work
Ghetto wall?
www.haaretz.com/1.5144370
Is this thread restricted to Israel/Palestine wall or is the term "separation wall" mean all separation walls or any structure around the world ? ************** @bren - I don't think it should be called "apartheid wall". Apartheid is South-African word meaning separation for sure, and there is indeed lot of similarities between both, which are all reprehensible indeed... but historian and others would prefer people not to use or appropriate the term Apartheid which is specific to South Africa and has is own context ("separation" is preferred; apartheid with a small "a" or "apartheid-like"). Nowadays, people are prompt to use terms out of their context and ends up mixing everything and forgetting that every problem has in own history, context, etc. They do this because to globalise their message and broaden their audience. Just to illustrate this, England was doing exactly the same thing where I live and they actually implemented an apartheid-like regime in the country (different place for blacks and whites, lot of fences and security, curfew for locals, work permit for locals from white employer allowing them to walk freely, people being bitten and killed, implementation of concentration camp, etc.) which it is still there nowadays, some places are only occupied by white farmers and you can feel it, they don't like much colored people and dreaming of return of the old good British Empire. Oddly, nobody will use the term "Apartheid" here or say they knew apartheid because Israel is very influential, well anchored and well appreciated, thanks thanks to decades of intensive development program (especially in agriculture and horticulture) and they ensure security (secret services/Mossad, fight against terrorism, etc.)... and the population here are religious fanatics (thanks to the English missionaries) and, believe it or not, there is a strong theological connection between old African religions (such as coptic - from Egypt to Soudan), Christian evangelist (old testament and stuff) and Jewish people, and they are very conservative. So there you are, a country which has been through apartheid-like regime for more than 3 decades but won't dare using terms like Apartheid for Israel. Very complex indeed ! For sure, pre-Apartheid South Africa has downgraded their relation with Israel to the bottom low... as they are calling for ban of Israeli products and are not shy to use the term "Apartheid". And that's where I go back to the beginning of my post, is it wise to do so? No, I don't think, because the use of term Apartheid applies to a well-defined context and any person using it are doing it for political or whatever agenda they have. I know, heavy heavy heavy Great post, thanks for taking the time. it got my little mind whirring a bit. I just do not think the name separation wall explains it. Apartheid wall does. The name Separation wall is a sanitised name and makes it sound like its ok,the name just rolls off the tongue like it normal. The wall is an absolute disgrace so it should have a emotive name to explain its wrongness. Prison wall would also work Ghetto wall? www.haaretz.com/1.5144370
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Separation Wall Art, by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 0:10:48 GMT 1, While I was staying in the Walled Off, I met a great guy, and a new friend, from New Zealand. He introduced me to Miko Peled's book, 'The General's Son: Journey of an Israeli in Palestine'.
Thought it would be of interest to you guys: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miko_Peled
While I was staying in the Walled Off, I met a great guy, and a new friend, from New Zealand. He introduced me to Miko Peled's book, 'The General's Son: Journey of an Israeli in Palestine'. Thought it would be of interest to you guys: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miko_Peled
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Separation Wall Art, by irl1 on Feb 7, 2018 23:23:21 GMT 1, The Wall & Mart is the stencil shop in the Walled Off Hotel, with some of the pictures from the Museum and loads from the wall
The Wall & Mart is the stencil shop in the Walled Off Hotel, with some of the pictures from the Museum and loads from the wall
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