disturbart
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Invader prices dropping, by disturbart on Feb 6, 2018 9:41:06 GMT 1, I’ve seen a lot of threads lately commenting on indader prices dropping. Can anyone explain why we have seen this correction?
I’ve seen a lot of threads lately commenting on indader prices dropping. Can anyone explain why we have seen this correction?
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Invader prices dropping, by lv90210 on Feb 6, 2018 9:44:08 GMT 1, Ive noticed that as well, seems bubble has burst.
Ive noticed that as well, seems bubble has burst.
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Invader prices dropping, by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 9:47:39 GMT 1,
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gd79
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Invader prices dropping, by gd79 on Feb 6, 2018 9:48:51 GMT 1, Look at the markets!
Pick an asset class, it is getting hammered. It's all the same.
Look at the markets!
Pick an asset class, it is getting hammered. It's all the same.
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Carl Cashman
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Invader prices dropping, by Carl Cashman on Feb 6, 2018 9:49:43 GMT 1, Burst is slightly exreme... but nothing rises forever. You need a slight correction before the next level, plus if galleries stop bidding on auctions the manipulation slows down. A pyramid scheme (which is pretty much what a lot of prices are) has to stop at some point.. especially if the better quality work has already changed hands.
Burst is slightly exreme... but nothing rises forever. You need a slight correction before the next level, plus if galleries stop bidding on auctions the manipulation slows down. A pyramid scheme (which is pretty much what a lot of prices are) has to stop at some point.. especially if the better quality work has already changed hands.
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gd79
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Invader prices dropping, by gd79 on Feb 6, 2018 9:54:02 GMT 1, Also banking bonuses are crap. Which is probably half the market.
Also banking bonuses are crap. Which is probably half the market.
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Invader prices dropping, by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 9:57:01 GMT 1, Straight forward answer is - the prices were false. An illusion created by a few galleries and the ‘invader’ investors in Hong Kong.
Will be interesting to see if they rise again or if permanent damage is done.
You can bet those responsible made their bucks
Straight forward answer is - the prices were false. An illusion created by a few galleries and the ‘invader’ investors in Hong Kong.
Will be interesting to see if they rise again or if permanent damage is done.
You can bet those responsible made their bucks
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Invader prices dropping, by rosac on Feb 6, 2018 10:13:34 GMT 1, Invader has very decent backing. prices will go up again. a good time to buy if your a fan but struggle at the higher prices.
Invader has very decent backing. prices will go up again. a good time to buy if your a fan but struggle at the higher prices.
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Invader prices dropping, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Feb 6, 2018 10:14:49 GMT 1, Oof...carnage in the markets!! even sydneys housing market has come of the boil and is dropping!! Was reading yesterday British banks stopping people buying bitcoin with credit cards. Greed greed and more greed, hope they get stung 
Oof...carnage in the markets!! even sydneys housing market has come of the boil and is dropping!! Was reading yesterday British banks stopping people buying bitcoin with credit cards. Greed greed and more greed, hope they get stung |
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gd79
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Invader prices dropping, by gd79 on Feb 6, 2018 10:21:37 GMT 1, Invader has very decent backing. prices will go up again. a good time to buy if your a fan but struggle at the higher prices.
Agree with that! Distinctive and vibrant work.
Invader has very decent backing. prices will go up again. a good time to buy if your a fan but struggle at the higher prices. Agree with that! Distinctive and vibrant work. |
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Invader prices dropping, by cyberkid on Feb 6, 2018 10:35:08 GMT 1, the price explosion was adverse...
the prices will rise again - hopefully in a normal and slow way.
the price explosion was adverse...
the prices will rise again - hopefully in a normal and slow way.
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Invader prices dropping, by darren6 on Feb 6, 2018 10:37:46 GMT 1, LAZ must be laughing after waiting years to drop his Invader release... Waiting for the boom! Clever
LAZ must be laughing after waiting years to drop his Invader release... Waiting for the boom! Clever
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Invader prices dropping, by Happy Shopper on Feb 6, 2018 10:39:09 GMT 1, I haven't really seen prices dropping as such... but I've seen some high asking prices on here recently, and don't know what they sold for, or if they sold at all.
There's a lot going unsold on ebay too.
I haven't really seen prices dropping as such... but I've seen some high asking prices on here recently, and don't know what they sold for, or if they sold at all.
There's a lot going unsold on ebay too.
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Invader prices dropping, by racket on Feb 6, 2018 11:49:39 GMT 1, He's always had a retro or kitsch value, usually men or geeks of a certain age or born a certain decade. Decorative or 'fun' street pieces and artist, but nothing more long term, value wise IMO. Lots of pump n dump last year and now they bought Banksy with it.
He's always had a retro or kitsch value, usually men or geeks of a certain age or born a certain decade. Decorative or 'fun' street pieces and artist, but nothing more long term, value wise IMO. Lots of pump n dump last year and now they bought Banksy with it.
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Invader prices dropping, by dogstar on Feb 6, 2018 12:02:36 GMT 1, No bubble has burst, his primary market remains as strong as ever, what we're seeing now is nothing more than a secondary market price correction on editions.
He could release an edition of 100 prints at £2,500 each today and they'd still sell out in a flash.
No bubble has burst, his primary market remains as strong as ever, what we're seeing now is nothing more than a secondary market price correction on editions.
He could release an edition of 100 prints at £2,500 each today and they'd still sell out in a flash.
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Invader prices dropping, by Matt on Feb 6, 2018 12:11:45 GMT 1, Invader has been on steady rise since he started.
This has always been utterly deserved
- his fundamentals and integrity are strong
- he has grown a global fanbase over the years that most artists would envy
- he has put on great shows
- he has done increasingly well in auctions and has a solid following of folks buying originals.
As this happened, a handful of chaps saw an opportunity to boost the trend and make some fast cash on the print market.
The correction is simply a fall back from too much too soon, on the print market.
You could say that the release of two prints in this overheated time was a mistake (the MSF kit was a much smarter idea in contrast), the prints were bought mostly to flip, and this abundant new stock immediately highlighted the fact that prices were artificially high.
Will Invader recover ? I would think yes as everything points to the fact that he is a strong artist, and his originals are selling out immediately on primary and secondary.
Judging the market by the prints is not necessarily the right view in this case.
But the prints are def getting much cheaper so don't complain, now is the time to buy the ones you like
Invader has been on steady rise since he started.
This has always been utterly deserved
- his fundamentals and integrity are strong
- he has grown a global fanbase over the years that most artists would envy
- he has put on great shows
- he has done increasingly well in auctions and has a solid following of folks buying originals.
As this happened, a handful of chaps saw an opportunity to boost the trend and make some fast cash on the print market.
The correction is simply a fall back from too much too soon, on the print market.
You could say that the release of two prints in this overheated time was a mistake (the MSF kit was a much smarter idea in contrast), the prints were bought mostly to flip, and this abundant new stock immediately highlighted the fact that prices were artificially high.
Will Invader recover ? I would think yes as everything points to the fact that he is a strong artist, and his originals are selling out immediately on primary and secondary.
Judging the market by the prints is not necessarily the right view in this case.
But the prints are def getting much cheaper so don't complain, now is the time to buy the ones you like
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Invader prices dropping, by Dive Jedi on Feb 6, 2018 12:15:45 GMT 1, No bubble has burst, his primary market remains as strong as ever, what we're seeing now is nothing more than a secondary market price correction on editions. He could release an edition of 100 prints at £2,500 each today and they'd still sell out in a flash.
No bubble has burst, his primary market remains as strong as ever, what we're seeing now is nothing more than a secondary market price correction on editions. He could release an edition of 100 prints at £2,500 each today and they'd still sell out in a flash. That buys a lot of tiles !! |
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Invader prices dropping, by Jaylove on Feb 6, 2018 12:27:04 GMT 1, I’d say Invader is not the only one.
I’d say Invader is not the only one.
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Invader prices dropping, by moron on Feb 6, 2018 16:53:09 GMT 1, Definately over hyped and over sold and marketed by some big dealers who hooked their claws into the urban art bubble. there is no substance behind Invaders "art" apart from a gimmick of putting tiles Atari game caracters on walls and saying look how clever and witty I am I make Space Invader on street wiv little tiles. That was OK in itself even tho Fekner did it first. Then came the urban art bubble and flip flop flash foo faf funk and dunk on forums and Invader having very little creativity and imagination made cartoon caracters in tiles and rubik cube tile mosaics which is easy enough to do in itself.
So now it looks like the big galleries and dealers who put money into invader and made sure some very high prices achieved at auction are probably finding it very hard to find people with money who view Invader as a blue chip investment.
Stik's next to drop.
Definately over hyped and over sold and marketed by some big dealers who hooked their claws into the urban art bubble. there is no substance behind Invaders "art" apart from a gimmick of putting tiles Atari game caracters on walls and saying look how clever and witty I am I make Space Invader on street wiv little tiles. That was OK in itself even tho Fekner did it first. Then came the urban art bubble and flip flop flash foo faf funk and dunk on forums and Invader having very little creativity and imagination made cartoon caracters in tiles and rubik cube tile mosaics which is easy enough to do in itself.
So now it looks like the big galleries and dealers who put money into invader and made sure some very high prices achieved at auction are probably finding it very hard to find people with money who view Invader as a blue chip investment.
Stik's next to drop.
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moron
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Invader prices dropping, by moron on Feb 6, 2018 16:54:47 GMT 1,
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Invader prices dropping, by Ponyboy Curtis on Feb 6, 2018 17:16:37 GMT 1, A lot of wind-milling in here from peeps who missed the boat. Hilarious. Maybe you'll get on the next gravy train. If you don't care or like his work then your opinion matters little anyway. Invader is an absolute legend and his success was long overdue.
A lot of wind-milling in here from peeps who missed the boat. Hilarious. Maybe you'll get on the next gravy train. If you don't care or like his work then your opinion matters little anyway. Invader is an absolute legend and his success was long overdue.
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Invader prices dropping, by chevyav53 on Feb 6, 2018 17:39:55 GMT 1, So interesting, I do like some of his works but need to be honest with ourselves. Nostalgia keeps him alive for now. Will that last, we will see. He does not even break the top 100 most influential or collectible artists lists.
So interesting, I do like some of his works but need to be honest with ourselves. Nostalgia keeps him alive for now. Will that last, we will see. He does not even break the top 100 most influential or collectible artists lists.
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Invader prices dropping, by whob1 on Feb 6, 2018 17:52:40 GMT 1, What kind of perspective do people have? 2 years: Increase x massive. A few weeks/months: thats called a small adjustment. Still a massive increase.
What kind of perspective do people have? 2 years: Increase x massive. A few weeks/months: thats called a small adjustment. Still a massive increase.
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Invader prices dropping, by Dibbs 45 on Feb 6, 2018 18:11:43 GMT 1, I see there's a load of merchant bankers on here.
I see there's a load of merchant bankers on here.
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Invader prices dropping, by Guy Denning on Feb 6, 2018 19:12:29 GMT 1, That was OK in itself even tho Fekner did it first.
johnfekner.com/feknerArchive/?p=128
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Invader prices dropping, by Icesay on Feb 6, 2018 23:34:45 GMT 1,
Thanks for sharing....never heard of this guy. Johari's window man.
Thanks for sharing....never heard of this guy. Johari's window man. |
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Invader prices dropping, by brycepen on Feb 7, 2018 0:32:08 GMT 1, Jesus, it’s simple economics people. Interest rates are expected to rise so investors will respond by divesting from assets that aren’t tied to interest rates. The red hot art market is going to start cooling the same way the stock market will. Invader is still invader
Jesus, it’s simple economics people. Interest rates are expected to rise so investors will respond by divesting from assets that aren’t tied to interest rates. The red hot art market is going to start cooling the same way the stock market will. Invader is still invader
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Invader prices dropping, by nex on Feb 7, 2018 0:35:53 GMT 1, Jesus, it’s simple economics people. Interest rates are expected to rise so investors will respond by divesting from assets that aren’t tied to interest rates. The red hot art market is going to start cooling the same way the stock market will. Invader is still invader
Lol, no this was simple manipulation by a handful of galleries and then taken on board by Bell weather fans who made it a reality. All that’s happening now is a logical correction to ‘real’ value.
Jesus, it’s simple economics people. Interest rates are expected to rise so investors will respond by divesting from assets that aren’t tied to interest rates. The red hot art market is going to start cooling the same way the stock market will. Invader is still invader
Lol, no this was simple manipulation by a handful of galleries and then taken on board by Bell weather fans who made it a reality. All that’s happening now is a logical correction to ‘real’ value. |
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Invader prices dropping, by brycepen on Feb 7, 2018 0:39:23 GMT 1, I’m sorry, but I have an advanced degree in economics, so I’m going to lean on the side of logical pragmatism and stand by my original assessment. Other opinions are always welcome; I’m no expert on niche markets as you seem to be
I’m sorry, but I have an advanced degree in economics, so I’m going to lean on the side of logical pragmatism and stand by my original assessment. Other opinions are always welcome; I’m no expert on niche markets as you seem to be
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Invader prices dropping, by thisisit on Feb 7, 2018 0:39:27 GMT 1, Jesus, it’s simple economics people. Interest rates are expected to rise so investors will respond by divesting from assets that aren’t tied to interest rates. The red hot art market is going to start cooling the same way the stock market will. Invader is still invader
"Invader prices are dropping"
Whats doess this mean? Flippers are making 500£ less per print! How sad...
The art market is not cooling down because of simple economics. Look at artist like Harland Miller.
He is not cooling down because its not his turn to cool down. (just wait for him)
Invader is still invader,
and id rather have an invader.
Jesus, it’s simple economics people. Interest rates are expected to rise so investors will respond by divesting from assets that aren’t tied to interest rates. The red hot art market is going to start cooling the same way the stock market will. Invader is still invader I disagree and agree at the same time. "Invader prices are dropping" Whats doess this mean? Flippers are making 500£ less per print! How sad... The art market is not cooling down because of simple economics. Look at artist like Harland Miller. He is not cooling down because its not his turn to cool down. (just wait for him) Invader is still invader, and id rather have an invader. |
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