Thought the pic of yours looked a bit longer and thinner than mine, which is exactly 34.9 x 50mm

No watermark or anything on the paper other than the POW stamp and number (and the sig).

Also the blob above the rat's tail looks slightly less noticeable on yours than mine.

Here's a really crap picture* of mine when it used to live happily in a clip frame, until you lot scared me, so now it lives wrapped in tissue somewhere safe and flat and where I can't get to it while me back's dodgy, so I can't check whether the stamp is ...printmaking or ... dot com.




*originally taken on a camera phone from a larger picture with the rat in the background - I've had to crop and enlarge the rat bit, which is why it's such shite quality. Sorry can't really be of more help.

Thats nice of them @ Pow!

That's really good of them. Nice one Ben that's brilliant.

That is bad news!!.

Now everyone will worry about some of the Love Rats that previously been sold through ebay, it seems like quite a few have always been available!!. Luckily the watermark gives it away! Lets hope that this has been discovered early enough before more get onto the market.

I think we're all going to have to be even more dilligent when puchasing Banksy prints on the Ebay etc.

I wonder if it was this one!! it was bought in the states!!

cgi.ebay.com/BANKSY-LOVE-RAT-NUMBERED-AND-STAMPED_W0QQitemZ230120797814QQihZ013QQcategoryZ360QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This is the original ebay number 190083292015. I was the original purchaser and then sold it recently to fund another purchase. I had no idea until recently that it may be fake. I've been in contact with the buyer and currently the print is on the way to POW for inspection from Ben. Two things fishy when I originally received the print:

1. It says in the auction that it was bought from POW but the
receipt comes from Art Republic. After I contacted POW to confirm if they have this seller as the purchaser, they did not. The seller then provided me with an artrepublic invoice and claimed to have gotten them mixed up.

2. The picture is of number 81 and I received 62. The seller claimed a mix up again.

The seller seemed very nice and didn't appear to be out to con me. But, after I recently sold it on to fund another purchase, it appears I may have been wrong. As the buyer noticed the watermark and inquired into it. If it is a fake it is a darn good one. I have contacted the seller of the original auction and he says he will refund my money and I in turn will refund the buyer of my auction money after im receive it back.

I hope for everyones sake that it turns out to be real. I guess we will see what happens.

Yeah, if a print comes from ArtRepublic, POW should have it on record as being sold to Artrepublic, but Artrepublic as far as I know dont keep records of who buys what from them.

Could all still be ok

Of course, I meant cm

Why can't I edit my posts any more? Is it just me, or everyone?

Hi gm ;D You can only edit your post for 30 minutes after you posted it Sorry, but I was forced to introduce that ages ago, coz one member threatened to go round and delete everything they had ever posted

Does your invoice give the print number? The invoice I got from the seller did not have the print number, just the print decription. I would post a pic of it, but it has the sellers ALLEGED name, address and email on it. Since it's not known if it's fake yet, I won't blow up his spot like that.

Let me guess who...

Thanks for the explanation, but don't people have the right to delete stuff that they no longer want on public view? What if it was for a good reason, not a hissy fit? I suppose you'd have to do the business in that case, if they asked you to.

I have before deleted all my own posts from certain forums during hissy fits, so I'm not really one to judge anyway... but there's also been a few good reasons for me having to delete something or other.

I can see both sides here. I mod on another forum and hate having to delete other people's posts, but will do so if they ask, and allow them to if they want to.

That isn't good news, how many more out there? must be a few, it's too much trouble to just get one done.

How will you sort this out Andrew?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm fishy.

Look guys. Anyone thinking I'm fishy or something, I'm not out to rip anyone off. I'm a solid ebayer with alot of feedback and history. I'm a banksy forum member and have never been about hiding. I'm taking this one on the chin and will refund Andrew his money once I receive the print back. Even though it's fake I paid alot of money for it and the image is still cool. Hopefully, the Ass I bought it from will refund me. But, if not, I was taken for a ride and considered a fool. I wouldn't pass that onto someone else. The loss will end with me.

Here is the chain of ebay transaction numbers for anyone to see. My user name is everette66. I have the fake invoice the seller provided as well as lots of email correspondence showing the complete trail.

1. 190083292015
2. 230120797814

I paid by paypal. Paypal has protection BUT, you have to file a complaint within 45 days. I originally purchased the print Feb 21, 2007, longer than 45 days so I'm basically f'ed if the seller decides to just ignore me. But, in order to have a paypal account you do have to provide some legit information (I believe) regarding bank accounts, etc. So if he ignores me I'll probably press charges against him and take it to small claims court, just to f with him. This freakin sucks!!!!

If anything this situation poses a real problem for anyone buying prints off the bay or anywhere for that case. This seller provided me with an invoice (obviously fake) but it looked real. I even zoomed in as far as possible on the document to see if I could see some sign of tampering (cut & paste, etc.). Receipts and POW stamps just aren't enough on the older prints. You need to have POW confirmation. The print even had a POW stamp that looked real official (raised, same size, evrything). And the image itself was silk screened. The only give away was the watermark on the paper that I didn't even notice.