cmc
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Screen pulls.. later.. better?, by cmc on May 3, 2018 9:37:51 GMT 1, So I was just reading some info about screen printing and the article mentioned that sometimes later pulls can be superior. It's the first time i've heard this and i'm interested to know more if anyone has any input.
Also that the numbering of the editions might not be the order they were screened in..what order would they be numbered in then?
So I was just reading some info about screen printing and the article mentioned that sometimes later pulls can be superior. It's the first time i've heard this and i'm interested to know more if anyone has any input.
Also that the numbering of the editions might not be the order they were screened in..what order would they be numbered in then?
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Screen pulls.. later.. better?, by Happy Shopper on May 3, 2018 15:00:59 GMT 1, I don't know why a screen would get better. If anything you'd assume it could get worse and less defined.
I don't know why a screen would get better. If anything you'd assume it could get worse and less defined.
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coller
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Screen pulls.. later.. better?, by coller on May 3, 2018 16:55:15 GMT 1, Kind of irrelevant unless you are sure that "low number = first pull", which would be impossible to determine unless you know the artist/printer 
Kind of irrelevant unless you are sure that "low number = first pull", which would be impossible to determine unless you know the artist/printer |
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kwatis
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Screen pulls.. later.. better?, by kwatis on May 4, 2018 13:43:08 GMT 1, Here are my opinions as to how the later pulls could be better then at the start:
- If the screen's image was poorly/inadequately knocked out and over the course of printing the image was "bullied out" allowing for the screen to print properly/as intended. If this was the case, the printer didn't look at the screen before starting to print and was going to make errors from the onset.
- If there were pinholes in the emulsion, areas that weren't intended to be printed, that over the course of time dried in and no longer printed. If this was the case, the printer was too aggressive knocking out the image and/or there was dust on the exposure unit glass and before printing didn't check their screen, allow for errors from the getgo.
- If the ink being used was inadequately mixed and over the course of starting out the hue and/or viscosity of the ink improved. This is most applicable when doing splitfountains (like an ombrรฉ effect - gradual blending of one color hue to another) as the color transitions/blends improve the more pulls/printing. Once again if there are a number of ways the printer could remedy this BEFORE starting to print.
Basically, in my opinion, if the printer has prints that improve over the course of printing, its due to their lack of attention/quality control before printing begins. Additionally these are just options that spring to mind from my professional viewpoint, as I look to make sure that this issues don't happen while printing.
Here are my opinions as to how the later pulls could be better then at the start:
- If the screen's image was poorly/inadequately knocked out and over the course of printing the image was "bullied out" allowing for the screen to print properly/as intended. If this was the case, the printer didn't look at the screen before starting to print and was going to make errors from the onset.
- If there were pinholes in the emulsion, areas that weren't intended to be printed, that over the course of time dried in and no longer printed. If this was the case, the printer was too aggressive knocking out the image and/or there was dust on the exposure unit glass and before printing didn't check their screen, allow for errors from the getgo.
- If the ink being used was inadequately mixed and over the course of starting out the hue and/or viscosity of the ink improved. This is most applicable when doing splitfountains (like an ombrรฉ effect - gradual blending of one color hue to another) as the color transitions/blends improve the more pulls/printing. Once again if there are a number of ways the printer could remedy this BEFORE starting to print.
Basically, in my opinion, if the printer has prints that improve over the course of printing, its due to their lack of attention/quality control before printing begins. Additionally these are just options that spring to mind from my professional viewpoint, as I look to make sure that this issues don't happen while printing.
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kwatis
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Screen pulls.. later.. better?, by kwatis on May 4, 2018 13:48:56 GMT 1, Also that the numbering of the editions might not be the order they were screened in..what order would they be numbered in then?
As to the numbering of the editions. While in production on an edition, there is no guaranteed way that each layer will be applied in the same sequence as when printing the first color, unless you were to number each sheet of paper. You'd then have to de-rack/stack in the same order each color, every time. Thru the eyes of a professional, this is an unnecessary step. When printing large editions, the time to number them is pointless, as the quality control of any print house should be to make all prints perfect and to have as little mistakes as possible. Printers start with more paper than is needed for an edition, so even for reasonable editions of 100, there are more than likely 125-150 sheets depending on the image.
Additionally some print publishers use only one drying rack, stacking from bottom to top and then continuing from bottom to top again. This would mean the first rack has print 1 and print 51 and so on. De-racking would be slowed if having to do them sequentially.
Again, these are just a couple of reasons that spring to mind and I am sure that their are others.
Also that the numbering of the editions might not be the order they were screened in..what order would they be numbered in then?
As to the numbering of the editions. While in production on an edition, there is no guaranteed way that each layer will be applied in the same sequence as when printing the first color, unless you were to number each sheet of paper. You'd then have to de-rack/stack in the same order each color, every time. Thru the eyes of a professional, this is an unnecessary step. When printing large editions, the time to number them is pointless, as the quality control of any print house should be to make all prints perfect and to have as little mistakes as possible. Printers start with more paper than is needed for an edition, so even for reasonable editions of 100, there are more than likely 125-150 sheets depending on the image.
Additionally some print publishers use only one drying rack, stacking from bottom to top and then continuing from bottom to top again. This would mean the first rack has print 1 and print 51 and so on. De-racking would be slowed if having to do them sequentially.
Again, these are just a couple of reasons that spring to mind and I am sure that their are others.
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