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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by cnrdvln on Aug 12, 2018 15:44:01 GMT 1, Not caring that I looked like an eejit I looked really really closely at the smaller spots (located in window area) and they are slightly pixalated. Only slightly but for me I want I personally want to see the imperfections of the spot etc. So picked camino and claridges.
Not caring that I looked like an eejit I looked really really closely at the smaller spots (located in window area) and they are slightly pixalated. Only slightly but for me I want I personally want to see the imperfections of the spot etc. So picked camino and claridges.
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by blerd on Aug 12, 2018 16:06:37 GMT 1, Not caring that I looked like an eejit I looked really really closely at the smaller spots (located in window area) and they are slightly pixalated. Only slightly but for me I want I personally want to see the imperfections of the spot etc. So picked camino and claridges.
Not caring that I looked like an eejit I looked really really closely at the smaller spots (located in window area) and they are slightly pixalated. Only slightly but for me I want I personally want to see the imperfections of the spot etc. So picked camino and claridges. I loved Camino too. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by 1000steps on Aug 12, 2018 16:40:26 GMT 1, Got my registration submitted at last. I decided to be picky, since my wife and I are presently debating which art to take down in order to hang the Cannizaro when it arrives. Another piece will only compound the difficulty 
Registered for 1) Raffles, 2) Camino Real, 3) Claridges. However this late in the game, I am expecting nada.
Got my registration submitted at last. I decided to be picky, since my wife and I are presently debating which art to take down in order to hang the Cannizaro when it arrives. Another piece will only compound the difficulty Registered for 1) Raffles, 2) Camino Real, 3) Claridges. However this late in the game, I am expecting nada. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 17:10:05 GMT 1, So I updated my application form to include all 8 and hopefully getting 2 prints. Fingers crossed
Did you call them to update your application? Or did you send it in again? Thanks.
So I updated my application form to include all 8 and hopefully getting 2 prints. Fingers crossed Did you call them to update your application? Or did you send it in again? Thanks. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by charliec2701 on Aug 12, 2018 17:14:01 GMT 1, Probably a handful but not as many as you think. Everyone has been scared off by the number 800. Kinda like how things cooled down for Heni Richters when flippers had sore anuses after they were raped by unsigned editions of 500, P15/P16. Due to the weight of these heffers, the cost of transporting them decimated any margins, hence many were stuck with them. Plus it was a Flow painting, the least desired from Richter's body of work. How many people bought to flip?
There’s still profit in the P15/16 ...... the early birds were fetching up to £20k inc fees ....nowadays there’s still auction movement at £10k plus . So no loss whatsoever and still a profit margin even after fees.
Probably a handful but not as many as you think. Everyone has been scared off by the number 800. Kinda like how things cooled down for Heni Richters when flippers had sore anuses after they were raped by unsigned editions of 500, P15/P16. Due to the weight of these heffers, the cost of transporting them decimated any margins, hence many were stuck with them. Plus it was a Flow painting, the least desired from Richter's body of work. How many people bought to flip? There’s still profit in the P15/16 ...... the early birds were fetching up to £20k inc fees ....nowadays there’s still auction movement at £10k plus . So no loss whatsoever and still a profit margin even after fees. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by pgm on Aug 12, 2018 17:16:18 GMT 1, So I updated my application form to include all 8 and hopefully getting 2 prints. Fingers crossed Did you call them to update your application? Or did you send it in again? Thanks.
Just sent it again but I find it sensible to give them a call tomorrow (Monday) morning
So I updated my application form to include all 8 and hopefully getting 2 prints. Fingers crossed Did you call them to update your application? Or did you send it in again? Thanks. Just sent it again but I find it sensible to give them a call tomorrow (Monday) morning |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 17:21:02 GMT 1, Did you call them to update your application? Or did you send it in again? Thanks. Just sent it again but I find it sensible to give them a call tomorrow (Monday) morning
Ah yes. Let me know how it goes. Or if you hear back. I feel like I’ve bothered them quite a bit so far.
Did you call them to update your application? Or did you send it in again? Thanks. Just sent it again but I find it sensible to give them a call tomorrow (Monday) morning Ah yes. Let me know how it goes. Or if you hear back. I feel like I’ve bothered them quite a bit so far. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Express Post on Aug 12, 2018 18:30:31 GMT 1, I see those results too, but there is a q at phillips, the only auction house that will touch them, single file, and literally hundreds of owners out there. Also looking at ebay where there is no bp, many are floundering.
Probably a handful but not as many as you think. Everyone has been scared off by the number 800. Kinda like how things cooled down for Heni Richters when flippers had sore anuses after they were raped by unsigned editions of 500, P15/P16. Due to the weight of these heffers, the cost of transporting them decimated any margins, hence many were stuck with them. Plus it was a Flow painting, the least desired from Richter's body of work. There’s still profit in the P15/16 ...... the early birds were fetching up to £20k inc fees ....nowadays there’s still auction movement at £10k plus . So no loss whatsoever and still a profit margin even after fees.
I see those results too, but there is a q at phillips, the only auction house that will touch them, single file, and literally hundreds of owners out there. Also looking at ebay where there is no bp, many are floundering. Probably a handful but not as many as you think. Everyone has been scared off by the number 800. Kinda like how things cooled down for Heni Richters when flippers had sore anuses after they were raped by unsigned editions of 500, P15/P16. Due to the weight of these heffers, the cost of transporting them decimated any margins, hence many were stuck with them. Plus it was a Flow painting, the least desired from Richter's body of work. There’s still profit in the P15/16 ...... the early birds were fetching up to £20k inc fees ....nowadays there’s still auction movement at £10k plus . So no loss whatsoever and still a profit margin even after fees. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by charliec2701 on Aug 12, 2018 18:44:48 GMT 1, I see those results too, but there is a q at phillips, the only auction house that will touch them, single file, and literally hundreds of owners out there. Also looking at ebay where there is no bp, many are floundering. There’s still profit in the P15/16 ...... the early birds were fetching up to £20k inc fees ....nowadays there’s still auction movement at £10k plus . So no loss whatsoever and still a profit margin even after fees.
That’s interesting? I didn’t know Phillips were the only prominent auction house offing them ??
I see those results too, but there is a q at phillips, the only auction house that will touch them, single file, and literally hundreds of owners out there. Also looking at ebay where there is no bp, many are floundering. There’s still profit in the P15/16 ...... the early birds were fetching up to £20k inc fees ....nowadays there’s still auction movement at £10k plus . So no loss whatsoever and still a profit margin even after fees. That’s interesting? I didn’t know Phillips were the only prominent auction house offing them ?? |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Express Post on Aug 12, 2018 19:09:41 GMT 1, Christies sold one in March, that went for a bit, havent checked Sothebys.
You had one member on here recently struggling to sell one for a lot less, and there are a few sets on ebay. After all these are cheaper than auction house prices, so why are they still available?
I see those results too, but there is a q at phillips, the only auction house that will touch them, single file, and literally hundreds of owners out there. Also looking at ebay where there is no bp, many are floundering. That’s interesting? I didn’t know Phillips were the only prominent auction house offing them ??
Christies sold one in March, that went for a bit, havent checked Sothebys. You had one member on here recently struggling to sell one for a lot less, and there are a few sets on ebay. After all these are cheaper than auction house prices, so why are they still available? I see those results too, but there is a q at phillips, the only auction house that will touch them, single file, and literally hundreds of owners out there. Also looking at ebay where there is no bp, many are floundering. That’s interesting? I didn’t know Phillips were the only prominent auction house offing them ?? |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Poster Bob on Aug 12, 2018 19:20:36 GMT 1, Supply is too high, demand is too low and they are unsigned. It's that simple.
Christies sold one in March, that went for a bit, havent checked Sothebys. You had one member on here recently struggling to sell one for a lot less, and there are a few sets on ebay. After all these are cheaper than auction house prices, so why are they still available? That’s interesting? I didn’t know Phillips were the only prominent auction house offing them ??
Supply is too high, demand is too low and they are unsigned. It's that simple. Christies sold one in March, that went for a bit, havent checked Sothebys. You had one member on here recently struggling to sell one for a lot less, and there are a few sets on ebay. After all these are cheaper than auction house prices, so why are they still available? That’s interesting? I didn’t know Phillips were the only prominent auction house offing them ?? |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 20:04:53 GMT 1, Supply is too high, demand is too low and they are unsigned. It's that simple. Christies sold one in March, that went for a bit, havent checked Sothebys. You had one member on here recently struggling to sell one for a lot less, and there are a few sets on ebay. After all these are cheaper than auction house prices, so why are they still available?
The Richter scholar.
Supply is too high, demand is too low and they are unsigned. It's that simple. Christies sold one in March, that went for a bit, havent checked Sothebys. You had one member on here recently struggling to sell one for a lot less, and there are a few sets on ebay. After all these are cheaper than auction house prices, so why are they still available? The Richter scholar. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by .dappy on Aug 12, 2018 20:04:56 GMT 1, ... six in the queue ... 🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪
... six in the queue ... 🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Zippy on Aug 12, 2018 20:05:56 GMT 1, If anyone is popping in to the Tate to look at them in person, could you pm me as i have a favour to ask!
If anyone is popping in to the Tate to look at them in person, could you pm me as i have a favour to ask!
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by blerd on Aug 12, 2018 20:34:00 GMT 1, Supply is too high, demand is too low and they are unsigned. It's that simple. Christies sold one in March, that went for a bit, havent checked Sothebys. You had one member on here recently struggling to sell one for a lot less, and there are a few sets on ebay. After all these are cheaper than auction house prices, so why are they still available?
Supply is too high, demand is too low and they are unsigned. It's that simple. Christies sold one in March, that went for a bit, havent checked Sothebys. You had one member on here recently struggling to sell one for a lot less, and there are a few sets on ebay. After all these are cheaper than auction house prices, so why are they still available? Don't give up the day job or GCSE economics. ;-). I thought supply and demand doesn't apply to the Art Market. Oh only Hirst can release 300 prints then another 800 and the price go up. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by .dappy on Aug 12, 2018 20:44:33 GMT 1, Supply is too high, demand is too low and they are unsigned. It's that simple. Don't give up the day job or GCSE economics. ;-). I thought supply and demand doesn't apply to the Art Market. Oh only Hirst can release 300 prints then another 800 and the price go up.
... its all about elasticity of supply and demand ... I thought I had already taught people that ... A Level Economics ... 
Supply is too high, demand is too low and they are unsigned. It's that simple. Don't give up the day job or GCSE economics. ;-). I thought supply and demand doesn't apply to the Art Market. Oh only Hirst can release 300 prints then another 800 and the price go up. ... its all about elasticity of supply and demand ... I thought I had already taught people that ... A Level Economics ... |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by blerd on Aug 12, 2018 20:46:04 GMT 1, Don't give up the day job or GCSE economics. ;-). I thought supply and demand doesn't apply to the Art Market. Oh only Hirst can release 300 prints then another 800 and the price go up. ... its all about elasticity of supply and demand ... I thought I had already taught people that ... A Level Economics ...
Don't give up the day job or GCSE economics. ;-). I thought supply and demand doesn't apply to the Art Market. Oh only Hirst can release 300 prints then another 800 and the price go up. ... its all about elasticity of supply and demand ... I thought I had already taught people that ... A Level Economics ... Hahaha. lesson taken...O level. ;-) |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Winter on Aug 12, 2018 21:53:15 GMT 1, Just because the Richters and the Hirsts are printed on the same ‘substrate’ doesn’t make them in any way comparable. It’s like comparing a Hockney print and a Banksy print because they’re both printed on paper.
If you’re buying a Heni Hirst because the Heni Richters have done ok (sometimes not always) at auction you are taking a gamble. If you’re buying the Hirst because you like it that’s a different matter.
Just because the Richters and the Hirsts are printed on the same ‘substrate’ doesn’t make them in any way comparable. It’s like comparing a Hockney print and a Banksy print because they’re both printed on paper.
If you’re buying a Heni Hirst because the Heni Richters have done ok (sometimes not always) at auction you are taking a gamble. If you’re buying the Hirst because you like it that’s a different matter.
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Chris JL on Aug 12, 2018 23:09:00 GMT 1, Just because the Richters and the Hirsts are printed on the same ‘substrate’ doesn’t make them in any way comparable. It’s like comparing a Hockney print and a Banksy print because they’re both printed on paper. If you’re buying a Heni Hirst because the Heni Richters have done ok (sometimes not always) at auction you are taking a gamble. If you’re buying the Hirst because you like it that’s a different matter.
Nothing personal but...
Just because the Richters and the Hirsts are printed on the same ‘substrate’ doesn’t make them in any way comparable. It’s like comparing a Hockney print and a Banksy print because they’re both printed on paper. If you’re buying a Heni Hirst because the Heni Richters have done ok (sometimes not always) at auction you are taking a gamble. If you’re buying the Hirst because you like it that’s a different matter. Nothing personal but... |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Poster Bob on Aug 12, 2018 23:15:42 GMT 1, Yeah, nah brah. No one is taking a gamble on £2,700 each for a signed 90x90 Hirst edition of 100. That's what you call a slam fu*king dunk.
Just because the Richters and the Hirsts are printed on the same ‘substrate’ doesn’t make them in any way comparable. It’s like comparing a Hockney print and a Banksy print because they’re both printed on paper. If you’re buying a Heni Hirst because the Heni Richters have done ok (sometimes not always) at auction you are taking a gamble. If you’re buying the Hirst because you like it that’s a different matter.
Yeah, nah brah. No one is taking a gamble on £2,700 each for a signed 90x90 Hirst edition of 100. That's what you call a slam fu*king dunk. Just because the Richters and the Hirsts are printed on the same ‘substrate’ doesn’t make them in any way comparable. It’s like comparing a Hockney print and a Banksy print because they’re both printed on paper. If you’re buying a Heni Hirst because the Heni Richters have done ok (sometimes not always) at auction you are taking a gamble. If you’re buying the Hirst because you like it that’s a different matter. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by blerd on Aug 12, 2018 23:26:03 GMT 1, Don't give up the day job or GCSE economics. ;-). I thought supply and demand doesn't apply to the Art Market. Oh only Hirst can release 300 prints then another 800 and the price go up. ... its all about elasticity of supply and demand ... I thought I had already taught people that ... A Level Economics ...
The price elasticity of supply = % change in quantity supplied / % change in price. When calculating the price elasticity of supply, economists determine whether the quantity supplied of a good is elastic or inelastic. PES > 1: Supply is elastic. PES < 1: Supply is inelastic. 
Don't give up the day job or GCSE economics. ;-). I thought supply and demand doesn't apply to the Art Market. Oh only Hirst can release 300 prints then another 800 and the price go up. ... its all about elasticity of supply and demand ... I thought I had already taught people that ... A Level Economics ... I finally understand! if anyone else is confused, this should clarify: The price elasticity of supply = % change in quantity supplied / % change in price. When calculating the price elasticity of supply, economists determine whether the quantity supplied of a good is elastic or inelastic. PES > 1: Supply is elastic. PES < 1: Supply is inelastic. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Winter on Aug 12, 2018 23:32:26 GMT 1, Just because the Richters and the Hirsts are printed on the same ‘substrate’ doesn’t make them in any way comparable. It’s like comparing a Hockney print and a Banksy print because they’re both printed on paper. If you’re buying a Heni Hirst because the Heni Richters have done ok (sometimes not always) at auction you are taking a gamble. If you’re buying the Hirst because you like it that’s a different matter. Nothing personal but...
Thanks for treating me to a lovely animation. I won’t comment any more - I’ll just sit back and leave it to the experts.
Just because the Richters and the Hirsts are printed on the same ‘substrate’ doesn’t make them in any way comparable. It’s like comparing a Hockney print and a Banksy print because they’re both printed on paper. If you’re buying a Heni Hirst because the Heni Richters have done ok (sometimes not always) at auction you are taking a gamble. If you’re buying the Hirst because you like it that’s a different matter. Nothing personal but... Thanks for treating me to a lovely animation. I won’t comment any more - I’ll just sit back and leave it to the experts. |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by .dappy on Aug 12, 2018 23:46:21 GMT 1, ... its all about elasticity of supply and demand ... I thought I had already taught people that ... A Level Economics ... I finally understand! if anyone else is confused, this should clarify: The price elasticity of supply = % change in quantity supplied / % change in price. When calculating the price elasticity of supply, economists determine whether the quantity supplied of a good is elastic or inelastic. PES > 1: Supply is elastic. PES < 1: Supply is inelastic.
Finally, you get it! ... thanks also for helping others
... its all about elasticity of supply and demand ... I thought I had already taught people that ... A Level Economics ... I finally understand! if anyone else is confused, this should clarify: The price elasticity of supply = % change in quantity supplied / % change in price. When calculating the price elasticity of supply, economists determine whether the quantity supplied of a good is elastic or inelastic. PES > 1: Supply is elastic. PES < 1: Supply is inelastic. Finally, you get it! ... thanks also for helping others |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by Chris JL on Aug 12, 2018 23:49:50 GMT 1, I finally understand! if anyone else is confused, this should clarify: The price elasticity of supply = % change in quantity supplied / % change in price. When calculating the price elasticity of supply, economists determine whether the quantity supplied of a good is elastic or inelastic. PES > 1: Supply is elastic. PES < 1: Supply is inelastic. Finally, you get it! ... thanks also for helping others
Should we confuse things noticing the difference between homogenous goods (e.g. two Toxic Mary) and non homogenous ones (e.g. a Toxic Mary and a Silver flag)? 😉
I finally understand! if anyone else is confused, this should clarify: The price elasticity of supply = % change in quantity supplied / % change in price. When calculating the price elasticity of supply, economists determine whether the quantity supplied of a good is elastic or inelastic. PES > 1: Supply is elastic. PES < 1: Supply is inelastic. Finally, you get it! ... thanks also for helping others Should we confuse things noticing the difference between homogenous goods (e.g. two Toxic Mary) and non homogenous ones (e.g. a Toxic Mary and a Silver flag)? 😉 |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by .dappy on Aug 13, 2018 0:13:35 GMT 1, Finally, you get it! ... thanks also for helping others Should we confuse things noticing the difference between homogenous goods (e.g. two Toxic Mary) and non homogenous ones (e.g. a Toxic Mary and a Silver flag)? 😉
... that would mean comparing goods between different suppliers for essentially the same product ...
... I don't think that we are doing that here ... and ... as comparing the product or goods of banksy, hirst and richter isn't really the same (other than under the large context of art (work)) ... so therefore ... I again say .... NO! 
Finally, you get it! ... thanks also for helping others Should we confuse things noticing the difference between homogenous goods (e.g. two Toxic Mary) and non homogenous ones (e.g. a Toxic Mary and a Silver flag)? 😉 ... that would mean comparing goods between different suppliers for essentially the same product ... ... I don't think that we are doing that here ... and ... as comparing the product or goods of banksy, hirst and richter isn't really the same (other than under the large context of art (work)) ... so therefore ... I again say .... NO! |
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by 1000steps on Aug 13, 2018 2:18:04 GMT 1, Interesting discussion. Just curious - is this 'economic good' defined as a single artwork or limited edition (one distinct product) within an artist's portfolio, or is it defined as the entire set of works contained with an artist's portfolio?
Interesting discussion. Just curious - is this 'economic good' defined as a single artwork or limited edition (one distinct product) within an artist's portfolio, or is it defined as the entire set of works contained with an artist's portfolio?
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by charliec2701 on Aug 13, 2018 7:12:35 GMT 1, Wake me up when this gets remotely interesting 💤💤💤
Wake me up when this gets remotely interesting 💤💤💤
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Damien Hirst H4 • Veils, by pgm on Aug 13, 2018 10:21:08 GMT 1, So I called Tate just now, they confirmed they had my application and Heni would call me to update me in 2 weeks time. Oh the wait is killing me.
So I called Tate just now, they confirmed they had my application and Heni would call me to update me in 2 weeks time. Oh the wait is killing me.
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