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New Banksy in Paris???, by Lroy on Jun 24, 2018 23:13:45 GMT 1, sorry, if its already posted / asked somewhere... is the man (by the dog) a famous person ? i have tried to find since the discover ... it is near a lot of university as medical, physiology, philosophy , Sorbonne etc .. But it could be a waiter, or Dr Petiot a serial Killer who killed 25 women .. I don’t know.. It’s a bit worrying for the beautiful one in La Chapelle.. a commando ? Cops ? Kids ? ? Anyway a lot of many rats to France find/come
sorry, if its already posted / asked somewhere... is the man (by the dog) a famous person ? i have tried to find since the discover ... it is near a lot of university as medical, physiology, philosophy , Sorbonne etc .. But it could be a waiter, or Dr Petiot a serial Killer who killed 25 women .. I don’t know.. It’s a bit worrying for the beautiful one in La Chapelle.. a commando ? Cops ? Kids ? ? Anyway a lot of many rats to France find/come
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Lroy on Jun 24, 2018 23:36:17 GMT 1, New rats to find ! It’s not finished yet ... See my insta aaaa tchoum !
New rats to find ! It’s not finished yet ... See my insta aaaa tchoum !
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Lroy on Jun 25, 2018 6:32:35 GMT 1, Just saw on oakoak insta stories that the one with the wallpaper has been destroyed already.... shame!!! Yep, the Nazi wallpaper one has been defaced. I' not sure they realised it was (potentially) a Banksy and just took it at face value. Why they should not ? They ( I don’t know this 4 on the pic, I there is some people from a ong ? )!know perfectly and they bought the material to defaced it. It could becausectoo many “ Banksy tourists “ are coming taking photos ( we can see some migrants on a lot and as they are purchased by police etc ... )? It’s done anyway ..,
Just saw on oakoak insta stories that the one with the wallpaper has been destroyed already.... shame!!! Yep, the Nazi wallpaper one has been defaced. I' not sure they realised it was (potentially) a Banksy and just took it at face value. Why they should not ? They ( I don’t know this 4 on the pic, I there is some people from a ong ? )!know perfectly and they bought the material to defaced it. It could becausectoo many “ Banksy tourists “ are coming taking photos ( we can see some migrants on a lot and as they are purchased by police etc ... )? It’s done anyway ..,
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Art Fan 2011 on Jun 25, 2018 9:28:13 GMT 1, Graffiti on Graffiti - whatever next
Any new from the "anonymous" street artist over the weekend?
Graffiti on Graffiti - whatever next Any new from the "anonymous" street artist over the weekend?
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Lroy on Jun 25, 2018 9:32:26 GMT 1, Graffiti on Graffiti - whatever next Any new from the "anonymous" street artist over the weekend? it is not graffiti the products used are to defaced paintings on the walls ..
Graffiti on Graffiti - whatever next Any new from the "anonymous" street artist over the weekend? it is not graffiti the products used are to defaced paintings on the walls ..
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New Banksy in Paris???, by redliquorice on Jun 25, 2018 9:43:23 GMT 1, Not 100% sure of the meaning of this one... but something about "papering" over societies problems I think (Homelessness/Poverty and Racism specifically). If it helps, it is in Porte de la Chappelle on the wall of a building used by voluntary organisations to help asylum seekers in France who are forced to live on the street by inadequate state support.
Not 100% sure of the meaning of this one... but something about "papering" over societies problems I think (Homelessness/Poverty and Racism specifically). If it helps, it is in Porte de la Chappelle on the wall of a building used by voluntary organisations to help asylum seekers in France who are forced to live on the street by inadequate state support.
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New Banksy in Paris???, by cyberkid on Jun 25, 2018 9:59:53 GMT 1, its a shame. where is the paris authority, the building owner, the paris tourist marketing etc... to put plexi on these great artworks ?
pics sofiluno
its a shame. where is the paris authority, the building owner, the paris tourist marketing etc... to put plexi on these great artworks ?
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New Banksy in Paris???, by sircoxson on Jun 25, 2018 10:04:52 GMT 1, these dudes seem to know what type of artwork and by whom they are vandalizing.
maybe they did not understand the artwork correctly? would be interesting to hear their reasoning for it...
its a shame. where is the paris authority, the building owner, the paris tourist marketing etc... to put plexi on these great artworks ?
pics sofiluno
these dudes seem to know what type of artwork and by whom they are vandalizing. maybe they did not understand the artwork correctly? would be interesting to hear their reasoning for it... its a shame. where is the paris authority, the building owner, the paris tourist marketing etc... to put plexi on these great artworks ?
pics sofiluno
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Cookiemonster on Jun 25, 2018 10:19:48 GMT 1, Why is it a shame? Not everyone will like or appreciate the fact that a mainly middle class art collector/speculator who's only interest to visit a run-down/no go area is to look at art on the wall, while at the same time ignoring the real issue around them.
Why is it a shame? Not everyone will like or appreciate the fact that a mainly middle class art collector/speculator who's only interest to visit a run-down/no go area is to look at art on the wall, while at the same time ignoring the real issue around them.
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Coach on Jun 25, 2018 10:33:12 GMT 1, its a shame. where is the paris authority, the building owner, the paris tourist marketing etc... to put plexi on these great artworks ?
pics sofiluno
I would have hated seeing it covered by plexi. It’s an old argument I know. Preserve the artwork versus respecting the ephemeral nature of street art, not to mention most street art looking sanitised when behind plexiglass. I fall firmly in the latter camp. It’s indeed a shame when work is buffed, but it’s the inevitable destiny for most street art.
its a shame. where is the paris authority, the building owner, the paris tourist marketing etc... to put plexi on these great artworks ?
pics sofiluno
I would have hated seeing it covered by plexi. It’s an old argument I know. Preserve the artwork versus respecting the ephemeral nature of street art, not to mention most street art looking sanitised when behind plexiglass. I fall firmly in the latter camp. It’s indeed a shame when work is buffed, but it’s the inevitable destiny for most street art.
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New Banksy in Paris???, by swissmade on Jun 25, 2018 10:41:26 GMT 1, Why is it a shame? Not everyone will like or appreciate the fact that a mainly middle class art collector/speculator who's only interest to visit a run-down/no go area is to look at art on the wall, while at the same time ignoring the real issue around them. Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, at least it gets the middle class art collector/speculator into the run-down/no go area and see for himself how these people are living and experience a little bit of their plight at first hand rather than reading someone else's version of it in a newspaper. And perhaps, hopefully a little seed of compassion or sympathy might germinate I know I'm an optimist.
Why is it a shame? Not everyone will like or appreciate the fact that a mainly middle class art collector/speculator who's only interest to visit a run-down/no go area is to look at art on the wall, while at the same time ignoring the real issue around them. Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, at least it gets the middle class art collector/speculator into the run-down/no go area and see for himself how these people are living and experience a little bit of their plight at first hand rather than reading someone else's version of it in a newspaper. And perhaps, hopefully a little seed of compassion or sympathy might germinate I know I'm an optimist.
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Happy Shopper on Jun 25, 2018 10:42:24 GMT 1, Was it one of Lush's pieces that got painted over because it was misinterpreted in Palestine? Maybe the image here wasn't clear enough for everyone to understand!? Did they think it was a black girl painting the swastika?
Was it one of Lush's pieces that got painted over because it was misinterpreted in Palestine? Maybe the image here wasn't clear enough for everyone to understand!? Did they think it was a black girl painting the swastika?
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Carl Cashman on Jun 25, 2018 11:02:42 GMT 1, Why is it a shame? Not everyone will like or appreciate the fact that a mainly middle class art collector/speculator who's only interest to visit a run-down/no go area is to look at art on the wall, while at the same time ignoring the real issue around them. Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, at least it gets the middle class art collector/speculator into the run-down/no go area and see for himself how these people are living and experience a little bit of their plight at first hand rather than reading someone else's version of it in a newspaper. And perhaps, hopefully a little seed of compassion or sympathy might germinate I know I'm an optimist. Unless that seed is for a money tree, it's a dream that won't work. When the box sets dropped for the first time people were camped in the hotel lobby for days so they didn't miss out. There will be a % that learn from visiting places like this... but most care about nothing but easy cash.
Did many people visiting the Pejac show manage to go visit these places that banksy ended up painting ?
Why is it a shame? Not everyone will like or appreciate the fact that a mainly middle class art collector/speculator who's only interest to visit a run-down/no go area is to look at art on the wall, while at the same time ignoring the real issue around them. Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, at least it gets the middle class art collector/speculator into the run-down/no go area and see for himself how these people are living and experience a little bit of their plight at first hand rather than reading someone else's version of it in a newspaper. And perhaps, hopefully a little seed of compassion or sympathy might germinate I know I'm an optimist. Unless that seed is for a money tree, it's a dream that won't work. When the box sets dropped for the first time people were camped in the hotel lobby for days so they didn't miss out. There will be a % that learn from visiting places like this... but most care about nothing but easy cash. Did many people visiting the Pejac show manage to go visit these places that banksy ended up painting ?
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Dive Jedi on Jun 25, 2018 11:08:12 GMT 1, Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, at least it gets the middle class art collector/speculator into the run-down/no go area and see for himself how these people are living and experience a little bit of their plight at first hand rather than reading someone else's version of it in a newspaper. And perhaps, hopefully a little seed of compassion or sympathy might germinate I know I'm an optimist. Unless that seed is for a money tree, it's a dream that won't work. When the box sets dropped for the first time people were camped in the hotel lobby for days so they didn't miss out. There will be a % that learn from visiting places like this... but most care about nothing but easy cash. Did many people visiting the Pejac show manage to go visit these places that banksy ended up painting ? Most were attending the opening show on the 20th. Wasn't known then yet and most left the next day.
Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, at least it gets the middle class art collector/speculator into the run-down/no go area and see for himself how these people are living and experience a little bit of their plight at first hand rather than reading someone else's version of it in a newspaper. And perhaps, hopefully a little seed of compassion or sympathy might germinate I know I'm an optimist. Unless that seed is for a money tree, it's a dream that won't work. When the box sets dropped for the first time people were camped in the hotel lobby for days so they didn't miss out. There will be a % that learn from visiting places like this... but most care about nothing but easy cash. Did many people visiting the Pejac show manage to go visit these places that banksy ended up painting ? Most were attending the opening show on the 20th. Wasn't known then yet and most left the next day.
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New Banksy in Paris???, by sircoxson on Jun 25, 2018 11:16:40 GMT 1, Why is it a shame? Not everyone will like or appreciate the fact that a mainly middle class art collector/speculator who's only interest to visit a run-down/no go area is to look at art on the wall, while at the same time ignoring the real issue around them. Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, at least it gets the middle class art collector/speculator into the run-down/no go area and see for himself how these people are living and experience a little bit of their plight at first hand rather than reading someone else's version of it in a newspaper. And perhaps, hopefully a little seed of compassion or sympathy might germinate I know I'm an optimist. the dudes could have taken the piece down and sell it for a lot of euro to do something good and worthwile for the neighbourhood...
Why is it a shame? Not everyone will like or appreciate the fact that a mainly middle class art collector/speculator who's only interest to visit a run-down/no go area is to look at art on the wall, while at the same time ignoring the real issue around them. Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, at least it gets the middle class art collector/speculator into the run-down/no go area and see for himself how these people are living and experience a little bit of their plight at first hand rather than reading someone else's version of it in a newspaper. And perhaps, hopefully a little seed of compassion or sympathy might germinate I know I'm an optimist. the dudes could have taken the piece down and sell it for a lot of euro to do something good and worthwile for the neighbourhood...
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Carl Cashman on Jun 25, 2018 11:31:16 GMT 1, Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, at least it gets the middle class art collector/speculator into the run-down/no go area and see for himself how these people are living and experience a little bit of their plight at first hand rather than reading someone else's version of it in a newspaper. And perhaps, hopefully a little seed of compassion or sympathy might germinate I know I'm an optimist. the dudes could have taken the piece down and sell it for a lot of euro to do something good and worthwile for the neighbourhood... I like your optimism, but that's a country where they would rather burn camps than help the people in them
Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, at least it gets the middle class art collector/speculator into the run-down/no go area and see for himself how these people are living and experience a little bit of their plight at first hand rather than reading someone else's version of it in a newspaper. And perhaps, hopefully a little seed of compassion or sympathy might germinate I know I'm an optimist. the dudes could have taken the piece down and sell it for a lot of euro to do something good and worthwile for the neighbourhood... I like your optimism, but that's a country where they would rather burn camps than help the people in them
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 12:06:30 GMT 1, the dudes could have taken the piece down and sell it for a lot of euro to do something good and worthwile for the neighbourhood... I like your optimism, but that's a country where they would rather burn camps than help the people in them This comment is quite extreme.
the dudes could have taken the piece down and sell it for a lot of euro to do something good and worthwile for the neighbourhood... I like your optimism, but that's a country where they would rather burn camps than help the people in them This comment is quite extreme.
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Lroy on Jun 25, 2018 12:15:25 GMT 1, Was it one of Lush's pieces that got painted over because it was misinterpreted in Palestine? Maybe the image here wasn't clear enough for everyone to understand!? Did they think it was a black girl painting the swastika? I think so ( for the black girl ) . + I think that they were fed up to see people turning around their misery, taking pics ( some were posted with migrants in the back ) , police could recognize some of them etc, etc.. Its a " speed " and hot area whatever some people think. We can compare with the Napoleon still here - where there are nobody sleeping there - and this one that was in the territory of people sleeping there etc..
Was it one of Lush's pieces that got painted over because it was misinterpreted in Palestine? Maybe the image here wasn't clear enough for everyone to understand!? Did they think it was a black girl painting the swastika? I think so ( for the black girl ) . + I think that they were fed up to see people turning around their misery, taking pics ( some were posted with migrants in the back ) , police could recognize some of them etc, etc.. Its a " speed " and hot area whatever some people think. We can compare with the Napoleon still here - where there are nobody sleeping there - and this one that was in the territory of people sleeping there etc..
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Matt on Jun 25, 2018 12:37:13 GMT 1,
Carl you may want to look into the UK / FR issue around this zone before laying blame on France for their immigration policy.
Not saying these people have been treated decently, but rather that saying “French burn camps” may not be a most accurate depiction of the forces at work in that area.
In such cases simplification is often e enemy...
Also regarding other’s comments about why they don’t appreciate Banksy or whether “they could have sold it for the neighbourhood” : that particular area is not so much a neighbourhood as a hodgepodge of communities, a layer cake of generations of immigrants from all regions, and a gateway in/out of Paris for illicit traffics of all sorts.
So - they don’t give twos**ts about Banksy - although you won’t necessarily get killed there, it is an area where you stay on your toes especially at night - The area does not like attention
Carl you may want to look into the UK / FR issue around this zone before laying blame on France for their immigration policy. Not saying these people have been treated decently, but rather that saying “French burn camps” may not be a most accurate depiction of the forces at work in that area. In such cases simplification is often e enemy... Also regarding other’s comments about why they don’t appreciate Banksy or whether “they could have sold it for the neighbourhood” : that particular area is not so much a neighbourhood as a hodgepodge of communities, a layer cake of generations of immigrants from all regions, and a gateway in/out of Paris for illicit traffics of all sorts. So - they don’t give twos**ts about Banksy - although you won’t necessarily get killed there, it is an area where you stay on your toes especially at night - The area does not like attention
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Carl Cashman on Jun 25, 2018 13:43:53 GMT 1, Carl you may want to look into the UK / FR issue around this zone before laying blame on France for their immigration policy. Not saying these people have been treated decently, but rather that saying “French burn camps” may not be a most accurate depiction of the forces at work in that area. In such cases simplification is often e enemy... Also regarding other’s comments about why they don’t appreciate Banksy or whether “they could have sold it for the neighbourhood” : that particular area is not so much a neighbourhood as a hodgepodge of communities, a layer cake of generations of immigrants from all regions, and a gateway in/out of Paris for illicit traffics of all sorts. So - they don’t give twos**ts about Banksy - although you won’t necessarily get killed there, it is an area where you stay on your toes especially at night - The area does not like attention Ah yer 100% I agree proper discussion would take more than 1 flippant comment from myself ... was just a reply to the comment that authoritys would sell the piece and help people in the area... rather than a political debate
Carl you may want to look into the UK / FR issue around this zone before laying blame on France for their immigration policy. Not saying these people have been treated decently, but rather that saying “French burn camps” may not be a most accurate depiction of the forces at work in that area. In such cases simplification is often e enemy... Also regarding other’s comments about why they don’t appreciate Banksy or whether “they could have sold it for the neighbourhood” : that particular area is not so much a neighbourhood as a hodgepodge of communities, a layer cake of generations of immigrants from all regions, and a gateway in/out of Paris for illicit traffics of all sorts. So - they don’t give twos**ts about Banksy - although you won’t necessarily get killed there, it is an area where you stay on your toes especially at night - The area does not like attention Ah yer 100% I agree proper discussion would take more than 1 flippant comment from myself ... was just a reply to the comment that authoritys would sell the piece and help people in the area... rather than a political debate
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New Banksy in Paris???, by chevyav53 on Jun 25, 2018 14:51:59 GMT 1, I'm glad they did it. Been reading the thread but not commented because so many see Banksy as the savior on here didn't want to deal with it. These paintings mean bullocks to the people actually suffering.
In all honesty at the level Banksy is allegedly at he should be doing more than painting on a wall. As many mentioned, sell a piece. I like what he did donating that artwork to the auction last year but if he truly cared he could be doing more.
He's at a point where he's a wealthy brat painting on walls and not inspiring anyone to actually make a change in their behavior to help people. Did anyone donate as a result, put in time to help someone? Nope just hoping he drops a release.... I didn't find any of these inspiring
I'm glad they did it. Been reading the thread but not commented because so many see Banksy as the savior on here didn't want to deal with it. These paintings mean bullocks to the people actually suffering.
In all honesty at the level Banksy is allegedly at he should be doing more than painting on a wall. As many mentioned, sell a piece. I like what he did donating that artwork to the auction last year but if he truly cared he could be doing more.
He's at a point where he's a wealthy brat painting on walls and not inspiring anyone to actually make a change in their behavior to help people. Did anyone donate as a result, put in time to help someone? Nope just hoping he drops a release.... I didn't find any of these inspiring
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Matt on Jun 25, 2018 15:13:36 GMT 1, I'm glad they did it. Been reading the thread but not commented because so many see Banksy as the savior on here didn't want to deal with it. These paintings mean bullocks to the people actually suffering. In all honesty at the level Banksy is allegedly at he should be doing more than painting on a wall. As many mentioned, sell a piece. I like what he did donating that artwork to the auction last year but if he truly cared he could be doing more. He's at a point where he's a wealthy brat painting on walls and not inspiring anyone to actually make a change in their behavior to help people. Did anyone donate as a result, put in time to help someone? Nope just hoping he drops a release.... I didn't find any of these inspiring
Fair point, but - for Banksy or anyone else- is that the role of the artist ?
If the artists wants topresent the people with a thougt- provoking view of the world, does that come with a mandate to take action ?
I'm glad they did it. Been reading the thread but not commented because so many see Banksy as the savior on here didn't want to deal with it. These paintings mean bullocks to the people actually suffering. In all honesty at the level Banksy is allegedly at he should be doing more than painting on a wall. As many mentioned, sell a piece. I like what he did donating that artwork to the auction last year but if he truly cared he could be doing more. He's at a point where he's a wealthy brat painting on walls and not inspiring anyone to actually make a change in their behavior to help people. Did anyone donate as a result, put in time to help someone? Nope just hoping he drops a release.... I didn't find any of these inspiring Fair point, but - for Banksy or anyone else- is that the role of the artist ? If the artists wants topresent the people with a thougt- provoking view of the world, does that come with a mandate to take action ?
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Lroy on Jun 25, 2018 15:26:48 GMT 1, I'm glad they did it. Been reading the thread but not commented because so many see Banksy as the savior on here didn't want to deal with it. These paintings mean bullocks to the people actually suffering. In all honesty at the level Banksy is allegedly at he should be doing more than painting on a wall. As many mentioned, sell a piece. I like what he did donating that artwork to the auction last year but if he truly cared he could be doing more. He's at a point where he's a wealthy brat painting on walls and not inspiring anyone to actually make a change in their behavior to help people. Did anyone donate as a result, put in time to help someone? Nope just hoping he drops a release.... I didn't find any of these inspiring Well he has done some great events as Dismaland and the Walled Off Hotel ( not only painting on a wall) . Maybe painting in POrte de la Chapelle was not a good idea ( migrants or not, they never liked to see phones or cameras - too many civil cops there. Anyway, don't forget that Banksy just came in Paris to have amusment for the 50 anniversary of may2018. We can't reproach, I think, that he put some great stencils ( the best is rue de Flandres ) between some joking and smiling rats ! ( if you see details you will see that some rats are not stenciled perfectly, I think that to make them in the center of Paris was a " gageure "... 2 many tourists there.
I'm glad they did it. Been reading the thread but not commented because so many see Banksy as the savior on here didn't want to deal with it. These paintings mean bullocks to the people actually suffering. In all honesty at the level Banksy is allegedly at he should be doing more than painting on a wall. As many mentioned, sell a piece. I like what he did donating that artwork to the auction last year but if he truly cared he could be doing more. He's at a point where he's a wealthy brat painting on walls and not inspiring anyone to actually make a change in their behavior to help people. Did anyone donate as a result, put in time to help someone? Nope just hoping he drops a release.... I didn't find any of these inspiring Well he has done some great events as Dismaland and the Walled Off Hotel ( not only painting on a wall) . Maybe painting in POrte de la Chapelle was not a good idea ( migrants or not, they never liked to see phones or cameras - too many civil cops there. Anyway, don't forget that Banksy just came in Paris to have amusment for the 50 anniversary of may2018. We can't reproach, I think, that he put some great stencils ( the best is rue de Flandres ) between some joking and smiling rats ! ( if you see details you will see that some rats are not stenciled perfectly, I think that to make them in the center of Paris was a " gageure "... 2 many tourists there.
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Lroy on Jun 25, 2018 16:49:39 GMT 1, On this forum all of you blocked me or what ?! No answers/replies since days ?! Can I ask why ?! Its not cool.
On this forum all of you blocked me or what ?! No answers/replies since days ?! Can I ask why ?! Its not cool.
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New Banksy in Paris???, by sircoxson on Jun 25, 2018 16:56:16 GMT 1, On this forum all of you blocked me or what ?! No answers/replies since days ?! Can I ask why ?! Its not cool.
too many posts, dear friend!
On this forum all of you blocked me or what ?! No answers/replies since days ?! Can I ask why ?! Its not cool. too many posts, dear friend!
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New Banksy in Paris???, by Lroy on Jun 25, 2018 17:00:30 GMT 1, On this forum all of you blocked me or what ?! No answers/replies since days ?! Can I ask why ?! Its not cool. hello i am Banksy !
On this forum all of you blocked me or what ?! No answers/replies since days ?! Can I ask why ?! Its not cool. hello i am Banksy !
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New Banksy in Paris???, by pippyt75 on Jun 25, 2018 17:05:17 GMT 1, More Rats.....
More Rats.....
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