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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 17:20:41 GMT 1, Top artists to invest in right now? What do you all think - i've got my couple but I want to see what everyone else thinks. Pejac Banksy originals ...... ย If it's all about money just set up a little shop buying scrap gold from desperate people. ย
Already tried that.
Thanks for your input though, I really really appreciate it.
Top artists to invest in right now? What do you all think - i've got my couple but I want to see what everyone else thinks. Pejac Banksy originals ...... ย If it's all about money just set up a little shop buying scrap gold from desperate people. ย Already tried that. Thanks for your input though, I really really appreciate it.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by Coach on Jul 16, 2018 17:21:28 GMT 1, There is no buzz around anything Hirst does today. He's an old art fart. His print prices can go up and down. The fact that his latest releases seem to only attract quick flippers shows that many think Hirsts best days are over and long term his prints could be hard to sell to recoup the money as in art bought by people when his prices were high at auction a few years ago.
This really is just not the case. You donโt like his work. I get that. Thatโs absolutely fine. But there really is no need to post this sort of inaccurate misinformation. There clearly is still a buzz around his work. There has been quite a buzz around his latest Heni release. If he were to put on a major show now, in London or equivalent, I believe there would be people queuing to see it. I know quite a few people offered the Heni prints. They are not flippers as you so assertively state, but collectors. As for whether they are a good investment, well I avoid commenting on that, as time has tought me that those that do often end up eating their words. The sort of hyperbole in your post devalues what you say, in my opinion. A well thought out criticism of his work might get us thinking.
There is no buzz around anything Hirst does today. He's an old art fart. His print prices can go up and down. The fact that his latest releases seem to only attract quick flippers shows that many think Hirsts best days are over and long term his prints could be hard to sell to recoup the money as in art bought by people when his prices were high at auction a few years ago. This really is just not the case. You donโt like his work. I get that. Thatโs absolutely fine. But there really is no need to post this sort of inaccurate misinformation. There clearly is still a buzz around his work. There has been quite a buzz around his latest Heni release. If he were to put on a major show now, in London or equivalent, I believe there would be people queuing to see it. I know quite a few people offered the Heni prints. They are not flippers as you so assertively state, but collectors. As for whether they are a good investment, well I avoid commenting on that, as time has tought me that those that do often end up eating their words. The sort of hyperbole in your post devalues what you say, in my opinion. A well thought out criticism of his work might get us thinking.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by silvermyn on Jul 16, 2018 17:34:14 GMT 1, So I have a methylamine 13c Damien Hirst print, its 1/100 and under the light the diamond dust looks amazing. My dealer keeps telling me damien hirst blew his chance and now all the galleries hate him and his prices cant/wont go up, but to me I think he's right there as one of the big names of our time. Do you think the piece by hirst is worth keeping and he'll one day see prints sell in the 6 figure range like warhol or even $50k range like banksy or has he really hurt any chance at future appreciation with his antics. The reason I ask is Im moving soon and I have already been discussing with a good friend of mine to sell most of my art but I've been hesitant to sell my Hirst and want to keep it as I think it has a lot of potential esp now that gagosian picked him up again, I feel like he's gonna make smaller quantity from now on and has learned from the past. Just curious about your opinions. Banksy has passed the $100k mark too; GWB has done that and more this year. I haven't seen any handfinished signed RC's or Dumbo go to auction recently but I would imagine they would be close to that sort of money.
IMHO there are too many Hirst's out there and it is highly unlikely that you would see any meteoric rises from an edition of 100.
I'm a big fan of Vasarely's work and there are absolutely loads of his signed prints to choose from. The result of the vast output of prints has had a detrimental effect on investment values. Still, that leaves them affordable to those who want them.
So I have a methylamine 13c Damien Hirst print, its 1/100 and under the light the diamond dust looks amazing. My dealer keeps telling me damien hirst blew his chance and now all the galleries hate him and his prices cant/wont go up, but to me I think he's right there as one of the big names of our time. Do you think the piece by hirst is worth keeping and he'll one day see prints sell in the 6 figure range like warhol or even $50k range like banksy or has he really hurt any chance at future appreciation with his antics. The reason I ask is Im moving soon and I have already been discussing with a good friend of mine to sell most of my art but I've been hesitant to sell my Hirst and want to keep it as I think it has a lot of potential esp now that gagosian picked him up again, I feel like he's gonna make smaller quantity from now on and has learned from the past. Just curious about your opinions. Banksy has passed the $100k mark too; GWB has done that and more this year. I haven't seen any handfinished signed RC's or Dumbo go to auction recently but I would imagine they would be close to that sort of money.
IMHO there are too many Hirst's out there and it is highly unlikely that you would see any meteoric rises from an edition of 100.
I'm a big fan of Vasarely's work and there are absolutely loads of his signed prints to choose from. The result of the vast output of prints has had a detrimental effect on investment values. Still, that leaves them affordable to those who want them.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by shinkaiser on Jul 16, 2018 17:39:39 GMT 1, Moron is making it a mission to bash Hirst. He clearly doesn't like him, which is okay but take what he says with a pinch of salt as it's far from the gospel truth
Moron is making it a mission to bash Hirst. He clearly doesn't like him, which is okay but take what he says with a pinch of salt as it's far from the gospel truth
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 16, 2018 17:40:16 GMT 1, There is no buzz around anything Hirst does today. He's an old art fart. His print prices can go up and down. The fact that his latest releases seem to only attract quick flippers shows that many think Hirsts best days are over and long term his prints could be hard to sell to recoup the money as in art bought by people when his prices were high at auction a few years ago. This really is just not the case. You donโt like his work. I get that. Thatโs absolutely fine. But there really is no need to post this sort of inaccurate misinformation. There clearly is still a buzz around his work. There has been quite a buzz around his latest Heni release. If he were to put on a major show now, in London or equivalent, I believe there would be people queuing to see it. I know quite a few people offered the Heni prints. They are not flippers as you so assertively state, but collectors. As for whether they are a good investment, well I avoid commenting on that, as time has tought me that those that do often end up eating their words. The sort of hyperbole in your post devalues what you say, in my opinion. A well thought out criticism of his work might get us thinking. isn't capitalism wonderful.
There is no buzz around anything Hirst does today. He's an old art fart. His print prices can go up and down. The fact that his latest releases seem to only attract quick flippers shows that many think Hirsts best days are over and long term his prints could be hard to sell to recoup the money as in art bought by people when his prices were high at auction a few years ago. This really is just not the case. You donโt like his work. I get that. Thatโs absolutely fine. But there really is no need to post this sort of inaccurate misinformation. There clearly is still a buzz around his work. There has been quite a buzz around his latest Heni release. If he were to put on a major show now, in London or equivalent, I believe there would be people queuing to see it. I know quite a few people offered the Heni prints. They are not flippers as you so assertively state, but collectors. As for whether they are a good investment, well I avoid commenting on that, as time has tought me that those that do often end up eating their words. The sort of hyperbole in your post devalues what you say, in my opinion. A well thought out criticism of his work might get us thinking. isn't capitalism wonderful.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 16, 2018 17:42:16 GMT 1, So I have a methylamine 13c Damien Hirst print, its 1/100 and under the light the diamond dust looks amazing. My dealer keeps telling me damien hirst blew his chance and now all the galleries hate him and his prices cant/wont go up, but to me I think he's right there as one of the big names of our time. Do you think the piece by hirst is worth keeping and he'll one day see prints sell in the 6 figure range like warhol or even $50k range like banksy or has he really hurt any chance at future appreciation with his antics. The reason I ask is Im moving soon and I have already been discussing with a good friend of mine to sell most of my art but I've been hesitant to sell my Hirst and want to keep it as I think it has a lot of potential esp now that gagosian picked him up again, I feel like he's gonna make smaller quantity from now on and has learned from the past. Just curious about your opinions. Banksy has passed the $100k mark too; Girl With Balloon has done that and more this year. I haven't seen any handfinished signed RC's or Dumbo go to auction recently but I would imagine they would be close to that sort of money.
IMHO there are too many Hirst's out there and it is highly unlikely that you would see any meteoric rises from an edition of 100.
I'm a big fan of Vasarely's work and there are absolutely loads of his signed prints to choose from. The result of the vast output of prints has had a detrimental effect on investment values. Still, that leaves them affordable to those who want them.
I would take a Vasarely over Hirst any day.
Also Paul Wunderlich.
So I have a methylamine 13c Damien Hirst print, its 1/100 and under the light the diamond dust looks amazing. My dealer keeps telling me damien hirst blew his chance and now all the galleries hate him and his prices cant/wont go up, but to me I think he's right there as one of the big names of our time. Do you think the piece by hirst is worth keeping and he'll one day see prints sell in the 6 figure range like warhol or even $50k range like banksy or has he really hurt any chance at future appreciation with his antics. The reason I ask is Im moving soon and I have already been discussing with a good friend of mine to sell most of my art but I've been hesitant to sell my Hirst and want to keep it as I think it has a lot of potential esp now that gagosian picked him up again, I feel like he's gonna make smaller quantity from now on and has learned from the past. Just curious about your opinions. Banksy has passed the $100k mark too; Girl With Balloon has done that and more this year. I haven't seen any handfinished signed RC's or Dumbo go to auction recently but I would imagine they would be close to that sort of money.
IMHO there are too many Hirst's out there and it is highly unlikely that you would see any meteoric rises from an edition of 100.
I'm a big fan of Vasarely's work and there are absolutely loads of his signed prints to choose from. The result of the vast output of prints has had a detrimental effect on investment values. Still, that leaves them affordable to those who want them.
I would take a Vasarely over Hirst any day. Also Paul Wunderlich.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 16, 2018 17:45:54 GMT 1, Moron is making it a mission to bash Hirst. He clearly doesn't like him, which is okay but take what he says with a pinch of salt as it's far from the gospel truth Everyone knows the end game is to create an illusion so that people who did not get to buy one of these latest Hirst prints, eagerly part with their money when these prints are flipped on this forum.
So lets see who will be the first to flip one of these Hirst prints on this forum and for how much.
I reckon they will be asking 10K on here and accepting around 8K as after all, look at Harland Miller prints etc etc.
Moron is making it a mission to bash Hirst. He clearly doesn't like him, which is okay but take what he says with a pinch of salt as it's far from the gospel truth Everyone knows the end game is to create an illusion so that people who did not get to buy one of these latest Hirst prints, eagerly part with their money when these prints are flipped on this forum. So lets see who will be the first to flip one of these Hirst prints on this forum and for how much. I reckon they will be asking 10K on here and accepting around 8K as after all, look at Harland Miller prints etc etc.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 16, 2018 17:47:21 GMT 1, There is no buzz around anything Hirst does today. He's an old art fart. His print prices can go up and down. The fact that his latest releases seem to only attract quick flippers shows that many think Hirsts best days are over and long term his prints could be hard to sell to recoup the money as in art bought by people when his prices were high at auction a few years ago. Wasn't there plenty of buzz around last year's Venice spectacle? None that wasn't paid for.
There is no buzz around anything Hirst does today. He's an old art fart. His print prices can go up and down. The fact that his latest releases seem to only attract quick flippers shows that many think Hirsts best days are over and long term his prints could be hard to sell to recoup the money as in art bought by people when his prices were high at auction a few years ago. Wasn't there plenty of buzz around last year's Venice spectacle? None that wasn't paid for.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by shinkaiser on Jul 16, 2018 17:52:40 GMT 1, Moron is making it a mission to bash Hirst. He clearly doesn't like him, which is okay but take what he says with a pinch of salt as it's far from the gospel truth Everyone knows the end game is to create an illusion so that people who did not get to buy one of these latest Hirst prints, eagerly part with their money when these prints are flipped on this forum. So lets see who will be the first to flip one of these Hirst prints on this forum and for how much. I reckon they will be asking 10K on here and accepting around 8K as after all, look at Harland Miller prints etc etc. Maybe I'm naive as I'm a newbie to all this, but this is not my end game.
It will definitely happen though, I agree with you there. It'll be interesting to see.
Moron is making it a mission to bash Hirst. He clearly doesn't like him, which is okay but take what he says with a pinch of salt as it's far from the gospel truth Everyone knows the end game is to create an illusion so that people who did not get to buy one of these latest Hirst prints, eagerly part with their money when these prints are flipped on this forum. So lets see who will be the first to flip one of these Hirst prints on this forum and for how much. I reckon they will be asking 10K on here and accepting around 8K as after all, look at Harland Miller prints etc etc. Maybe I'm naive as I'm a newbie to all this, but this is not my end game. It will definitely happen though, I agree with you there. It'll be interesting to see.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by Happy Shopper on Jul 16, 2018 18:43:44 GMT 1, Wasn't there plenty of buzz around last year's Venice spectacle? None that wasn't paid for. ย ย
LOL... Clearly you didn't go. Probably didn't see his show at Tate or the exhibition before the sale at Sotheby's.
You're too busy with your own small minded opinions to see the bigger picture. It really is like reading the Daily Mail on here sometimes!
Wasn't there plenty of buzz around last year's Venice spectacle? None that wasn't paid for. ย ย LOL... Clearly you didn't go. Probably didn't see his show at Tate or the exhibition before the sale at Sotheby's. You're too busy with your own small minded opinions to see the bigger picture. It really is like reading the Daily Mail on here sometimes!
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by Dive Jedi on Jul 16, 2018 18:46:40 GMT 1, None that wasn't paid for. LOL... Clearly you didn't go. Probably didn't see his show at Tate or the exhibition before the sale at Sotheby's. You're too busy with your own small minded opinions to see the bigger picture. It really is like reading the Daily Mail on here sometimes! So why do you read the Daily Mail?
None that wasn't paid for. LOL... Clearly you didn't go. Probably didn't see his show at Tate or the exhibition before the sale at Sotheby's. You're too busy with your own small minded opinions to see the bigger picture. It really is like reading the Daily Mail on here sometimes! So why do you read the Daily Mail?
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 16, 2018 20:51:09 GMT 1, None that wasn't paid for. LOL... Clearly you didn't go. Probably didn't see his show at Tate or the exhibition before the sale at Sotheby's. You're too busy with your own small minded opinions to see the bigger picture. It really is like reading the Daily Mail on here sometimes! why would I want to spend time looking at some dead sheep, some spots painted by students or assistants, a dead cow, some flies, some Boots counter and other similar stuff.
It's just road kill and drugs.
None that wasn't paid for. LOL... Clearly you didn't go. Probably didn't see his show at Tate or the exhibition before the sale at Sotheby's. You're too busy with your own small minded opinions to see the bigger picture. It really is like reading the Daily Mail on here sometimes! why would I want to spend time looking at some dead sheep, some spots painted by students or assistants, a dead cow, some flies, some Boots counter and other similar stuff. It's just road kill and drugs.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 16, 2018 21:14:46 GMT 1, Post some sketches by Mason Storm. If they exist ?
Post some sketches by Mason Storm. If they exist ?
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by shinkaiser on Jul 17, 2018 14:53:48 GMT 1, I hate to say "I told you so" moron, but...
I hate to say "I told you so" moron, but...
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 17, 2018 21:41:20 GMT 1, I read that article Shinkaiser.
It's interesting that people on here refer to auction prices all the time regarding buying or investing in the latest drop and also have referred to high auction prices regarding Hirsts latest art vomit.
Yet the article you posted says it's nothing to do with Hirsts auction prices.
"So why do many knowledgeable observersโfrom Sarah Thornton in The Economist, in 2012, to Robin Pogrebin in theTimes, this past Februaryโthink that Hirst became a persona non grata in the art world, stripped of his relevance and power? The answer comes from Pogrebin, who explained in May that she was looking mainly at auction prices:
The auctions enable me to be privy to whatโs happening in the art marketโwhoโs buying and what certain artists are selling for. I can watch, for example, how auction prices for the once red-hot artist Damien Hirst have declined and then decide to do a story on his recent attempts at a comeback."
Basically Felix Salmon whoever he is, is saying ignore the auction prices and buy Hirst because you are so wealthy you can buy his biggest most expensive pieces and ignore fluctuating and falling auction prices.
I read that article Shinkaiser.
It's interesting that people on here refer to auction prices all the time regarding buying or investing in the latest drop and also have referred to high auction prices regarding Hirsts latest art vomit.
Yet the article you posted says it's nothing to do with Hirsts auction prices.
"So why do many knowledgeable observersโfrom Sarah Thornton in The Economist, in 2012, to Robin Pogrebin in theTimes, this past Februaryโthink that Hirst became a persona non grata in the art world, stripped of his relevance and power? The answer comes from Pogrebin, who explained in May that she was looking mainly at auction prices:
The auctions enable me to be privy to whatโs happening in the art marketโwhoโs buying and what certain artists are selling for. I can watch, for example, how auction prices for the once red-hot artist Damien Hirst have declined and then decide to do a story on his recent attempts at a comeback."
Basically Felix Salmon whoever he is, is saying ignore the auction prices and buy Hirst because you are so wealthy you can buy his biggest most expensive pieces and ignore fluctuating and falling auction prices.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 17, 2018 22:08:13 GMT 1, Rene Moncada
Rene Moncada
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by dantheman8 on Jul 27, 2018 4:22:53 GMT 1, When people say Hirst made too many, are there any figures vs say what warhol made bc i see tons of warhol and I imagine he made WAY more than Hirst and I was at an auction recently where his superman print was one of 250 i believe and it got well over $100k. I know Hirst made alot but did he make more than warhol? I doubt it
When people say Hirst made too many, are there any figures vs say what warhol made bc i see tons of warhol and I imagine he made WAY more than Hirst and I was at an auction recently where his superman print was one of 250 i believe and it got well over $100k. I know Hirst made alot but did he make more than warhol? I doubt it
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by Express Post on Jul 27, 2018 4:52:56 GMT 1, Sure, the print will hit $100k. Hirst is part of art history.
However the Warhol Superman was from 35-40 years ago. By that same measure, in 35-40 years time, I will be worrying about other things like my hip replacement or sadly burying a few of my mates.
When people say Hirst made too many, are there any figures vs say what warhol made bc i see tons of warhol and I imagine he made WAY more than Hirst and I was at an auction recently where his superman print was one of 250 i believe and it got well over $100k. I know Hirst made alot but did he make more than warhol? I doubt it
Sure, the print will hit $100k. Hirst is part of art history. However the Warhol Superman was from 35-40 years ago. By that same measure, in 35-40 years time, I will be worrying about other things like my hip replacement or sadly burying a few of my mates. When people say Hirst made too many, are there any figures vs say what warhol made bc i see tons of warhol and I imagine he made WAY more than Hirst and I was at an auction recently where his superman print was one of 250 i believe and it got well over $100k. I know Hirst made alot but did he make more than warhol? I doubt it
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 27, 2018 9:31:26 GMT 1, Hirst is turning into Fairey not Warhol.
Hirst is turning into Fairey not Warhol.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by blerd on Jul 27, 2018 9:58:54 GMT 1, Hirst is turning into Fairey not Warhol. Damn. you hate this guy init. what did he do to you bruh?
Hirst is turning into Fairey not Warhol. Damn. you hate this guy init. what did he do to you bruh?
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 29, 2018 17:10:40 GMT 1, Hirst is turning into Fairey not Warhol. Damn. you hate this guy init. what did he do to you bruh? From your writing it seems English is not your first language. Hence your confusion as to not knowing the difference between having an opinion on some art and confusing it with hating someone I have never met. (see what i've done ther played you at your own game )
Hirst is turning into Fairey not Warhol. Damn. you hate this guy init. what did he do to you bruh? From your writing it seems English is not your first language. Hence your confusion as to not knowing the difference between having an opinion on some art and confusing it with hating someone I have never met. (see what i've done ther played you at your own game )
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 29, 2018 17:22:36 GMT 1, Moron is making it a mission to bash Hirst. He clearly doesn't like him, which is okay but take what he says with a pinch of salt as it's far from the gospel truth get a life
Moron is making it a mission to bash Hirst. He clearly doesn't like him, which is okay but take what he says with a pinch of salt as it's far from the gospel truth get a life
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by shinkaiser on Jul 29, 2018 21:37:03 GMT 1, Moron is making it a mission to bash Hirst. He clearly doesn't like him, which is okay but take what he says with a pinch of salt as it's far from the gospel truth get a life You've replied to a post I made two weeks ago...and you've made many comments since. It appears you've been trawling back and forth through a thread of an artist you clearly despise...
I think it's you who should get a life my friend
Moron is making it a mission to bash Hirst. He clearly doesn't like him, which is okay but take what he says with a pinch of salt as it's far from the gospel truth get a life You've replied to a post I made two weeks ago...and you've made many comments since. It appears you've been trawling back and forth through a thread of an artist you clearly despise... I think it's you who should get a life my friend
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by moron on Jul 30, 2018 22:24:30 GMT 1, When people say Hirst made too many, are there any figures vs say what warhol made bc i see tons of warhol and I imagine he made WAY more than Hirst and I was at an auction recently where his superman print was one of 250 i believe and it got well over $100k. I know Hirst made alot but did he make more than warhol? I doubt it I might be wrong but I think the people who bought up Warhol prints and also pushed up the prices of Warhols at auction have been buying up Hirst prints.
When people say Hirst made too many, are there any figures vs say what warhol made bc i see tons of warhol and I imagine he made WAY more than Hirst and I was at an auction recently where his superman print was one of 250 i believe and it got well over $100k. I know Hirst made alot but did he make more than warhol? I doubt it I might be wrong but I think the people who bought up Warhol prints and also pushed up the prices of Warhols at auction have been buying up Hirst prints.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by Express Post on Jul 30, 2018 22:32:50 GMT 1, The Mugrabis who own a lot of Warhols, have also bought up a lot of Hirst and Basquiats.
When people say Hirst made too many, are there any figures vs say what warhol made bc i see tons of warhol and I imagine he made WAY more than Hirst and I was at an auction recently where his superman print was one of 250 i believe and it got well over $100k. I know Hirst made alot but did he make more than warhol? I doubt it ย I might be wrong but I think the people who bought up Warhol prints and also pushed up the prices of Warhols at auction have been buying up Hirst prints.
The Mugrabis who own a lot of Warhols, have also bought up a lot of Hirst and Basquiats. When people say Hirst made too many, are there any figures vs say what warhol made bc i see tons of warhol and I imagine he made WAY more than Hirst and I was at an auction recently where his superman print was one of 250 i believe and it got well over $100k. I know Hirst made alot but did he make more than warhol? I doubt it ย I might be wrong but I think the people who bought up Warhol prints and also pushed up the prices of Warhols at auction have been buying up Hirst prints.
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by Chris JL on Aug 5, 2018 2:13:56 GMT 1, Hirstโs Venice show was amazing. Despite a big handful of despicable faux pas, he has shown a depth and a complexity through the years that puts him among the major artists of the last quarter of a century (just check the catalogs of his Tate retrospective to get a sense), and in Venice he showed that his time is clearly not over yet. He IS already a major figure for the XX and XXI century art. In comparison, for as much as I like his stuff (a lot!!!), Pejac is a kid that had a few good games and 3 homeruns in his junior high school league. I do hope Pejac will make a mark... but he could easily go where nobody follows him and be forgotten as not even a footnote in the art history books - where Hirst has his chapter already.
Oh wait, what am I saying! Hirst sucks, and is definitively finished, and if you do have a Valium to unload at cost, please please PM me ๐
(and no, unfortunately I donโt own any DH).
Hirstโs Venice show was amazing. Despite a big handful of despicable faux pas, he has shown a depth and a complexity through the years that puts him among the major artists of the last quarter of a century (just check the catalogs of his Tate retrospective to get a sense), and in Venice he showed that his time is clearly not over yet. He IS already a major figure for the XX and XXI century art. In comparison, for as much as I like his stuff (a lot!!!), Pejac is a kid that had a few good games and 3 homeruns in his junior high school league. I do hope Pejac will make a mark... but he could easily go where nobody follows him and be forgotten as not even a footnote in the art history books - where Hirst has his chapter already.
Oh wait, what am I saying! Hirst sucks, and is definitively finished, and if you do have a Valium to unload at cost, please please PM me ๐
(and no, unfortunately I donโt own any DH).
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thisisit
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by thisisit on Aug 5, 2018 17:24:17 GMT 1, Hirstโs Venice show was amazing. Despite a big handful of despicable faux pas, he has shown a depth and a complexity through the years that puts him among the major artists of the last quarter of a century (just check the catalogs of his Tate retrospective to get a sense), and in Venice he showed that his time is clearly not over yet. He IS already a major figure for the XX and XXI century art. In comparison, for as much as I like his stuff (a lot!!!), Pejac is a kid that had a few good games and 3 homeruns in his junior high school league. I do hope Pejac will make a mark... but he could easily go where nobody follows him and be forgotten as not even a footnote in the art history books - where Hirst has his chapter already. Oh wait, what am I saying! Hirst sucks, and is definitively finished, and if you do have a Valium to unload at cost, please please PM me ๐ (and no, unfortunately I donโt own any DH).
Never seen a post on this forum make so much sense. Maybe you can start by getting one of the new Hirst pieces coming out. You deserve one And good for pejac that he managed to get to 3K per print with such a traditional work process that leaves so little to the imagination (2018).
Hirstโs Venice show was amazing. Despite a big handful of despicable faux pas, he has shown a depth and a complexity through the years that puts him among the major artists of the last quarter of a century (just check the catalogs of his Tate retrospective to get a sense), and in Venice he showed that his time is clearly not over yet. He IS already a major figure for the XX and XXI century art. In comparison, for as much as I like his stuff (a lot!!!), Pejac is a kid that had a few good games and 3 homeruns in his junior high school league. I do hope Pejac will make a mark... but he could easily go where nobody follows him and be forgotten as not even a footnote in the art history books - where Hirst has his chapter already. Oh wait, what am I saying! Hirst sucks, and is definitively finished, and if you do have a Valium to unload at cost, please please PM me ๐ (and no, unfortunately I donโt own any DH). Never seen a post on this forum make so much sense. Maybe you can start by getting one of the new Hirst pieces coming out. You deserve one And good for pejac that he managed to get to 3K per print with such a traditional work process that leaves so little to the imagination (2018).
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Damien Hirst Print As An Investment?, by tab1 on Dec 18, 2018 11:19:22 GMT 1, Lots of bullshit posts in this thread. I've said it before and I will say it again, Damien Hirst has just made the best decisions of his career: he shut his online shop and went back to doing his work without assistants. The importance of these two events cannot be overstated. Dropping assistants will make the most serious art collectors take note, provide more value to his original works and make them safer, standard investments; people will fight tooth and a nail to get a canvas if he only does a show or two a year and say only two dozen are available. Closing his online shop dramatically limited the supply of his work and erased all of the unwanted tat from his career. In terms of career management, it was a literal stroke of genius. As an investment, a highly desired spot print is solid, but you can do a lot better. I'd say you're talking at best a 10% increase per year and that will not continue in perpetuity. In art terms though, that's peanuts if you can spot the next big thing. Selling a Hirst to buy Pejac is one of the most idiotic ideas I've ever heard. Pejac is far too early on in his career to see if he'll amount to anything and may be forgotten in two years. The only thing driving his career is people's desire to make money and some two-bit rappers on Instagram. Who the hell on Earth is he to ask for over a grand for a print? NOBODY. That's the answer. If you want to seriously invest in his work do it in a couple years if he's the darling of the art world, a common name and his work is fully mature. I can't help agreeing with Mr Bob here.
Damien Hirst Blew His chance? I'm curious to know how exactly...? Blew his chance? Heโs one of the worlds richest artists. He has a bacon hanging in his tv room ๐ a new air freshener ๐ค
Lots of bullshit posts in this thread. I've said it before and I will say it again, Damien Hirst has just made the best decisions of his career: he shut his online shop and went back to doing his work without assistants. The importance of these two events cannot be overstated. Dropping assistants will make the most serious art collectors take note, provide more value to his original works and make them safer, standard investments; people will fight tooth and a nail to get a canvas if he only does a show or two a year and say only two dozen are available. Closing his online shop dramatically limited the supply of his work and erased all of the unwanted tat from his career. In terms of career management, it was a literal stroke of genius. As an investment, a highly desired spot print is solid, but you can do a lot better. I'd say you're talking at best a 10% increase per year and that will not continue in perpetuity. In art terms though, that's peanuts if you can spot the next big thing. Selling a Hirst to buy Pejac is one of the most idiotic ideas I've ever heard. Pejac is far too early on in his career to see if he'll amount to anything and may be forgotten in two years. The only thing driving his career is people's desire to make money and some two-bit rappers on Instagram. Who the hell on Earth is he to ask for over a grand for a print? NOBODY. That's the answer. If you want to seriously invest in his work do it in a couple years if he's the darling of the art world, a common name and his work is fully mature. I can't help agreeing with Mr Bob here. Damien Hirst Blew His chance? I'm curious to know how exactly...? Blew his chance? Heโs one of the worlds richest artists. He has a bacon hanging in his tv room ๐ a new air freshener ๐ค
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