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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Apr 28, 2008 19:15:43 GMT 1, Was it a gift? Can you prove this,does it have provenance? If so you have a legitimate out of edition print which is worthless,rather than a stolen print that is worthless.
In today's day and age nothing is worthless. Something and anything is worth as much as anyone is willing to pay for it
Was it a gift? Can you prove this,does it have provenance? If so you have a legitimate out of edition print which is worthless,rather than a stolen print that is worthless. In today's day and age nothing is worthless. Something and anything is worth as much as anyone is willing to pay for it
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by dodge on Apr 28, 2008 19:23:19 GMT 1, I really don't understand,that mentality. You want to pay hundreds of pounds for something that is no better than a fake?? Seriously mate you need your head looking at. Also you can pick up REAL Banksy prints for under ยฃ1000 unsigned and a signed one from ยฃ2-3000. Where's the harm?The harm is there's alot of people on this forum trying to legitimise these prints for financial gain. The prints are dodgy,un-authorised,never meant to be in circulation,worthless posters. Don't be conned into buying these. If you like the image,get yourself a nice print made up,theres also some nice images on Banksy's website he'd like people to download and print in the shop section. The image I want argument is bollocks I'm afraid.
Of course it's not bollocks. One of the most popular 'backdoors' is LIITA. Even an unsigned original costs 2k+ these days. Where would I find one for ยฃ200-ยฃ300 (the price of a backdoor one)? This image isn't available on Banksy's website. Get a nice print knocked up? How? I don't see any high res versions of it kicking around, plus how much of a fanny on would it be to get it printed properly, not on a laserjet?
Sorry but if I can get 'dodgy' prints on the same paper with the same look as a numbered one for a fraction of the price then I am fine with that. I can't see why you are getting so upset or why I should have to justify myself.
Oh, and well done for getting Banksy's for cost back in the day. Unfortunately I had never heard of Banksy until 2007 ( I guess that probably makes me need my 'head looking at').
I really don't understand,that mentality. You want to pay hundreds of pounds for something that is no better than a fake?? Seriously mate you need your head looking at. Also you can pick up REAL Banksy prints for under ยฃ1000 unsigned and a signed one from ยฃ2-3000. Where's the harm?The harm is there's alot of people on this forum trying to legitimise these prints for financial gain. The prints are dodgy,un-authorised,never meant to be in circulation,worthless posters. Don't be conned into buying these. If you like the image,get yourself a nice print made up,theres also some nice images on Banksy's website he'd like people to download and print in the shop section. The image I want argument is bollocks I'm afraid. Of course it's not bollocks. One of the most popular 'backdoors' is LIITA. Even an unsigned original costs 2k+ these days. Where would I find one for ยฃ200-ยฃ300 (the price of a backdoor one)? This image isn't available on Banksy's website. Get a nice print knocked up? How? I don't see any high res versions of it kicking around, plus how much of a fanny on would it be to get it printed properly, not on a laserjet? Sorry but if I can get 'dodgy' prints on the same paper with the same look as a numbered one for a fraction of the price then I am fine with that. I can't see why you are getting so upset or why I should have to justify myself. Oh, and well done for getting Banksy's for cost back in the day. Unfortunately I had never heard of Banksy until 2007 ( I guess that probably makes me need my 'head looking at').
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by risky on Apr 28, 2008 19:36:06 GMT 1, Was it a gift? Can you prove this,does it have provenance? If so you have a legitimate out of edition print which is worthless,rather than a stolen print that is worthless. In today's day and age nothing is worthless. Something and anything is worth as much as anyone is willing to pay for it
Unfortunately there is always one more idiot in the queue snakes.
I remember when these forums started,people used to look out for each other. Giving advise and flagging up fakes and scams like the backdoor prints. Greed took over a while back and the touts and scammers now rule the roost. There are still some good people left on here,but they seem to be a dying breed.
Was it a gift? Can you prove this,does it have provenance? If so you have a legitimate out of edition print which is worthless,rather than a stolen print that is worthless. In today's day and age nothing is worthless. Something and anything is worth as much as anyone is willing to pay for it Unfortunately there is always one more idiot in the queue snakes. I remember when these forums started,people used to look out for each other. Giving advise and flagging up fakes and scams like the backdoor prints. Greed took over a while back and the touts and scammers now rule the roost. There are still some good people left on here,but they seem to be a dying breed.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Apr 28, 2008 19:39:20 GMT 1, You men eat your dinner, Eat your pork and beans I eat more chicken Any man ever seen โ .
I'm a back door man The men don't know But the little girls understand.
Well, I'm a back door man, I'm a back door man. Whoa, baby โ I'm a back door man.
You men eat your dinner, Eat your pork and beans I eat more chicken Any man ever seen โ .
I'm a back door man The men don't know But the little girls understand.
Well, I'm a back door man, I'm a back door man. Whoa, baby โ I'm a back door man.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by dodge on Apr 28, 2008 19:45:48 GMT 1, You men eat your dinner, Eat your pork and beans I eat more chicken Any man ever seen โ . I'm a back door man The men don't know But the little girls understand. Well, I'm a back door man, I'm a back door man. Whoa, baby โ I'm a back door man. ;D
You men eat your dinner, Eat your pork and beans I eat more chicken Any man ever seen โ . I'm a back door man The men don't know But the little girls understand. Well, I'm a back door man, I'm a back door man. Whoa, baby โ I'm a back door man. ;D
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by risky on Apr 28, 2008 19:51:35 GMT 1, I really don't understand,that mentality. You want to pay hundreds of pounds for something that is no better than a fake?? Seriously mate you need your head looking at. Also you can pick up REAL Banksy prints for under ยฃ1000 unsigned and a signed one from ยฃ2-3000. Where's the harm?The harm is there's alot of people on this forum trying to legitimise these prints for financial gain. The prints are dodgy,un-authorised,never meant to be in circulation,worthless posters. Don't be conned into buying these. If you like the image,get yourself a nice print made up,theres also some nice images on Banksy's website he'd like people to download and print in the shop section. The image I want argument is bollocks I'm afraid. Of course it's not bollocks. One of the most popular 'backdoors' is LIITA. Even an unsigned original costs 2k+ these days. Where would I find one for ยฃ200-ยฃ300 (the price of a backdoor one)? This image isn't available on Banksy's website. Get a nice print knocked up? How? I don't see any high res versions of it kicking around, plus how much of a fanny on would it be to get it printed properly, not on a laserjet? Sorry but if I can get 'dodgy' prints on the same paper with the same look as a numbered one for a fraction of the price then I am fine with that. I can't see why you are getting so upset or why I should have to justify myself. Oh, and well done for getting Banksy's for cost back in the day. Unfortunately I had never heard of Banksy until 2007 ( I guess that probably makes me need my 'head looking at').
Dodge,if you can afford to throw away ยฃ2-300 on one of these Yes you do. You probably believe people who ring you up and say you've won a holiday too. Snakes,how old are you? Someone please come up with a convincing argument of why you think thes should be in the market place. Copyright,wheres your studio?I need to come and borrow a few prints off you to sell on e-bay to make some money.
I really don't understand,that mentality. You want to pay hundreds of pounds for something that is no better than a fake?? Seriously mate you need your head looking at. Also you can pick up REAL Banksy prints for under ยฃ1000 unsigned and a signed one from ยฃ2-3000. Where's the harm?The harm is there's alot of people on this forum trying to legitimise these prints for financial gain. The prints are dodgy,un-authorised,never meant to be in circulation,worthless posters. Don't be conned into buying these. If you like the image,get yourself a nice print made up,theres also some nice images on Banksy's website he'd like people to download and print in the shop section. The image I want argument is bollocks I'm afraid. Of course it's not bollocks. One of the most popular 'backdoors' is LIITA. Even an unsigned original costs 2k+ these days. Where would I find one for ยฃ200-ยฃ300 (the price of a backdoor one)? This image isn't available on Banksy's website. Get a nice print knocked up? How? I don't see any high res versions of it kicking around, plus how much of a fanny on would it be to get it printed properly, not on a laserjet? Sorry but if I can get 'dodgy' prints on the same paper with the same look as a numbered one for a fraction of the price then I am fine with that. I can't see why you are getting so upset or why I should have to justify myself. Oh, and well done for getting Banksy's for cost back in the day. Unfortunately I had never heard of Banksy until 2007 ( I guess that probably makes me need my 'head looking at'). Dodge,if you can afford to throw away ยฃ2-300 on one of these Yes you do. You probably believe people who ring you up and say you've won a holiday too. Snakes,how old are you? Someone please come up with a convincing argument of why you think thes should be in the market place. Copyright,wheres your studio?I need to come and borrow a few prints off you to sell on e-bay to make some money.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by richy00 on Apr 28, 2008 19:55:21 GMT 1, i think if its exactly the same as the original run, e.g. no damage then why not... if your just in it for the image then its a great way of getting a print you like.
i think if its exactly the same as the original run, e.g. no damage then why not... if your just in it for the image then its a great way of getting a print you like.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by dodge on Apr 28, 2008 20:03:31 GMT 1, i think if its exactly the same as the original run, e.g. no damage then why not... if your just in it for the image then its a great way of getting a print you like.
Agreed.
i think if its exactly the same as the original run, e.g. no damage then why not... if your just in it for the image then its a great way of getting a print you like. Agreed.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by funkrye on Apr 28, 2008 20:10:34 GMT 1, This comes up every couple of months. Back door prints are stolen property. Simple. May as well buy a knock off canvas off ebay.
This comes up every couple of months. Back door prints are stolen property. Simple. May as well buy a knock off canvas off ebay.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by deepheat on Apr 28, 2008 20:24:37 GMT 1,
Sometimes backdoor is the only way to go to get what you want
Sometimes backdoor is the only way to go to get what you want
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by richy00 on Apr 28, 2008 20:25:13 GMT 1, This comes up every couple of months. Back door prints are stolen property. Simple. May as well buy a knock off canvas off ebay.
the point is that they look like the real item, infact they are EXACTLY the same as opposed to the markings and stamps and value... the image is the same.. its not like buying a fake watch where the quality is shit and it looks a bit dodgey, backdoor prints are identical.. i have a few backdoor prints coming my way and i cant wait, many thanks to the forum member in question.
This comes up every couple of months. Back door prints are stolen property. Simple. May as well buy a knock off canvas off ebay. the point is that they look like the real item, infact they are EXACTLY the same as opposed to the markings and stamps and value... the image is the same.. its not like buying a fake watch where the quality is shit and it looks a bit dodgey, backdoor prints are identical.. i have a few backdoor prints coming my way and i cant wait, many thanks to the forum member in question.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Apr 28, 2008 20:31:45 GMT 1, Sometimes backdoor is the only way to go to get what you want
Absolutely gorgeous
Sometimes backdoor is the only way to go to get what you want Absolutely gorgeous
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by richy00 on Apr 28, 2008 20:44:59 GMT 1, Sometimes backdoor is the only way to go to get what you want Absolutely gorgeous
snakes you got me excited
Sometimes backdoor is the only way to go to get what you want Absolutely gorgeous snakes you got me excited
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by felix on Apr 28, 2008 20:50:48 GMT 1, I'd never go backdoor...
The misses won't let me
I'd never go backdoor... The misses won't let me
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by risky on Apr 28, 2008 21:02:36 GMT 1, Anyone reading this by now has realised the people who are defending these prints are conmen or lacking in any common sense. And still no decent argument put forward? Very sad. I'll have my slice of cake now girls.
Anyone reading this by now has realised the people who are defending these prints are conmen or lacking in any common sense. And still no decent argument put forward? Very sad. I'll have my slice of cake now girls.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by richy00 on Apr 28, 2008 21:14:14 GMT 1, where is your decent argument??
my decent argument is it allows art lovers who are only interested in the image to obtain a print they like at a fraction of the cost??
now be so kind to tell me what is wrong in that..
where is your decent argument??
my decent argument is it allows art lovers who are only interested in the image to obtain a print they like at a fraction of the cost??
now be so kind to tell me what is wrong in that..
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by dodge on Apr 28, 2008 21:15:37 GMT 1, Anyone reading this by now has realised the people who are defending these prints are conmen or lacking in any common sense. And still no decent argument put forward? Very sad. I'll have my slice of cake now girls.
I think there have been many decent points put forward, the problem is you don't wish to listen to anyone with an opinion that differs from your own.
Anyone reading this by now has realised the people who are defending these prints are conmen or lacking in any common sense. And still no decent argument put forward? Very sad. I'll have my slice of cake now girls. I think there have been many decent points put forward, the problem is you don't wish to listen to anyone with an opinion that differs from your own.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by risky on Apr 28, 2008 21:21:57 GMT 1, where is your decent argument?? my decent argument is it allows art lovers who are only interested in the image to obtain a print they like at a fraction of the cost?? now be so kind to tell me what is wrong in that..
Your encouraging people to buy stolen property. An art lover would not buy one of these,,they would save up for a real one or trade up.
where is your decent argument?? my decent argument is it allows art lovers who are only interested in the image to obtain a print they like at a fraction of the cost?? now be so kind to tell me what is wrong in that.. Your encouraging people to buy stolen property. An art lover would not buy one of these,,they would save up for a real one or trade up.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by risky on Apr 28, 2008 21:28:08 GMT 1, Anyone reading this by now has realised the people who are defending these prints are conmen or lacking in any common sense. And still no decent argument put forward? Very sad. I'll have my slice of cake now girls. I think there have been many decent points put forward, the problem is you don't wish to listen to anyone with an opinion that differs from your own.
Please list what you think the decent points are dodge?
I do want to hear other peoples opinions as this is what forums are for.
Is anyone going to commit themselves fully in defence of these prints.
At the moment its very half hearted,which leads me to believe no one truely believes they are right.
Anyone reading this by now has realised the people who are defending these prints are conmen or lacking in any common sense. And still no decent argument put forward? Very sad. I'll have my slice of cake now girls. I think there have been many decent points put forward, the problem is you don't wish to listen to anyone with an opinion that differs from your own. Please list what you think the decent points are dodge? I do want to hear other peoples opinions as this is what forums are for. Is anyone going to commit themselves fully in defence of these prints. At the moment its very half hearted,which leads me to believe no one truely believes they are right.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by richy00 on Apr 28, 2008 21:32:20 GMT 1, an art lover cares about the image first i would believe... not everyone can afford to have ยฃXXXX's in prints on their walls.
as for stolen property? i dont think anyone has gone into POW and taken one..
as for you? im not sure what your motives are, if it were a choice of a backdoor print or no print its a very easy choice to make
an art lover cares about the image first i would believe... not everyone can afford to have ยฃXXXX's in prints on their walls.
as for stolen property? i dont think anyone has gone into POW and taken one..
as for you? im not sure what your motives are, if it were a choice of a backdoor print or no print its a very easy choice to make
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by dodge on Apr 28, 2008 21:39:18 GMT 1, I think there have been many decent points put forward, the problem is you don't wish to listen to anyone with an opinion that differs from your own. Please list what you think the decent points are dodge? I do want to hear other peoples opinions as this is what forums are for. Is anyone going to commit themselves fully in defence of these prints. At the moment its very half hearted,which leads me to believe no one truely believes they are right.
Please read the thread and interpret as you may....
I think there have been many decent points put forward, the problem is you don't wish to listen to anyone with an opinion that differs from your own. Please list what you think the decent points are dodge? I do want to hear other peoples opinions as this is what forums are for. Is anyone going to commit themselves fully in defence of these prints. At the moment its very half hearted,which leads me to believe no one truely believes they are right. Please read the thread and interpret as you may....
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by funkrye on Apr 28, 2008 21:44:09 GMT 1, an art lover cares about the image first i would believe... not everyone can afford to have ยฃXXXX's in prints on their walls. as for stolen property? i dont think anyone has gone into POW and taken one.. as for you? im not sure what your motives are, if it were a choice of a backdoor print or no print its a very easy choice to make
Only bothered about the image. Buy a knock off canvas then..... Makes your point invalid...
an art lover cares about the image first i would believe... not everyone can afford to have ยฃXXXX's in prints on their walls. as for stolen property? i dont think anyone has gone into POW and taken one.. as for you? im not sure what your motives are, if it were a choice of a backdoor print or no print its a very easy choice to make Only bothered about the image. Buy a knock off canvas then..... Makes your point invalid...
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by jamsanich on Apr 28, 2008 21:49:57 GMT 1, or for that matter go down to your local screenprinters and create yourself an exact replica without the stamp and without the signature - its easy enough to get a high res image and source the stock, trust me!
or for that matter go down to your local screenprinters and create yourself an exact replica without the stamp and without the signature - its easy enough to get a high res image and source the stock, trust me!
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by richy00 on Apr 28, 2008 21:56:09 GMT 1, well maybe i just might
well maybe i just might
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by risky on Apr 28, 2008 22:33:29 GMT 1, Thanks Funkyre and jamsanich for your support.
'Please read the thread and interpret as you may....' Is an unconvincing argument Dodge.
What are my motives?
Concern over misinformation spread on this forum.
Now people can read this thread and make up their own minds.
Thanks Funkyre and jamsanich for your support.
'Please read the thread and interpret as you may....' Is an unconvincing argument Dodge.
What are my motives?
Concern over misinformation spread on this forum.
Now people can read this thread and make up their own minds.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by cubrik on Apr 29, 2008 0:16:17 GMT 1, i suppose the radar rat lp is a bit like back door? as you get the print you want without the price tag
i suppose the radar rat lp is a bit like back door? as you get the print you want without the price tag
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by RBK on Apr 29, 2008 7:55:18 GMT 1, The harm is there's alot of people on this forum trying to legitimise these prints for financial gain.
AMEN!!!
These aren't suppose to be in circulation - end of story. These are not / cannot be considered part of of any limited edition run.
For those that say I like the image and can't pay X, you can easily find a decent enough image on the web. Trying to justify these is pathetic.
If you owned a business that makes a finite set of widgets, and one of your employees who works for you and you pay for their service makes a couple of extra ones on the side, walks out with them at the end of the day stuff in his pants, and sells them by falsely advertising they are the same, you'd can tell me you'd be fine with that??? There are a bunch of hypocrites on here...
The harm is there's alot of people on this forum trying to legitimise these prints for financial gain. AMEN!!!These aren't suppose to be in circulation - end of story. These are not / cannot be considered part of of any limited edition run. For those that say I like the image and can't pay X, you can easily find a decent enough image on the web. Trying to justify these is pathetic. If you owned a business that makes a finite set of widgets, and one of your employees who works for you and you pay for their service makes a couple of extra ones on the side, walks out with them at the end of the day stuff in his pants, and sells them by falsely advertising they are the same, you'd can tell me you'd be fine with that??? There are a bunch of hypocrites on here...
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by richy00 on Apr 29, 2008 8:32:37 GMT 1, i never said it was morally right, or legal.. i just said from an art lovers point of view its about the image not the blindstamp..
it is theft at the end of the day, just like spraying on public property is vandalism.
i never said it was morally right, or legal.. i just said from an art lovers point of view its about the image not the blindstamp..
it is theft at the end of the day, just like spraying on public property is vandalism.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Apr 29, 2008 14:51:58 GMT 1, ..and we certainly don't want anything de railing this gravy train do we!
..and we certainly don't want anything de railing this gravy train do we!
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by risky on Apr 29, 2008 15:09:20 GMT 1, ..and we certainly don't want anything de railing this gravy train do we!
Gravy train? Is this what the stolen prints come in on?
..and we certainly don't want anything de railing this gravy train do we! Gravy train? Is this what the stolen prints come in on?
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