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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Nov 20, 2007 18:56:40 GMT 1, For some this is a taboo subject but it is also part and parcel of the Banksy & POW printmaking story.
I am just interested in how many of the Banksy prints have 'backdoor' editions.
To date i have seen monkey queens, hmv's, toxic mary's, golf sales, turf war, LIITA, pulps and a couple of the LA prints attached to the lids of the paper boxes that were found in a skip after the show!
What others are out there?
For some this is a taboo subject but it is also part and parcel of the Banksy & POW printmaking story.
I am just interested in how many of the Banksy prints have 'backdoor' editions.
To date i have seen monkey queens, hmv's, toxic mary's, golf sales, turf war, LIITA, pulps and a couple of the LA prints attached to the lids of the paper boxes that were found in a skip after the show!
What others are out there?
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by buster on Nov 20, 2007 19:19:06 GMT 1, For some this is a taboo subject but it is also part and parcel of the Banksy & POW printmaking story. I am just interested in how many of the Banksy prints have 'backdoor' editions. To date i have seen monkey queens, hmv's, toxic mary's, golf sales, turf war, LIITA, pulps and a couple of the LA prints attached to the lids of the paper boxes that were found in a skip after the show! What others are out there?
Its pretty rare for any backdoor prints to be seen from anything done by POW in house. Wont go into my own personal feelings on these stolen prints again, as you know how I feel about them and those that deal in them. 
For some this is a taboo subject but it is also part and parcel of the Banksy & POW printmaking story. I am just interested in how many of the Banksy prints have 'backdoor' editions. To date i have seen monkey queens, hmv's, toxic mary's, golf sales, turf war, LIITA, pulps and a couple of the LA prints attached to the lids of the paper boxes that were found in a skip after the show! What others are out there? Suprised there are toxic mary ones, hmmm, missed those, the early prints up to pulp / MQ time were printed and stolen from the Birmingham printers, the ones sold were distributed through a company / collective called PMYC, when they realised so many prints were being lifted that it was prudent to move the whole operation in house. POW was formed and the stamps were used to help authenticate the official recognised runs. Any remaining prints not sold by that time were also stamped and sold ( hence some runs that are both stamped and unstamped) Its pretty rare for any backdoor prints to be seen from anything done by POW in house. Wont go into my own personal feelings on these stolen prints again, as you know how I feel about them and those that deal in them. |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Nov 20, 2007 19:25:34 GMT 1, Were they all stolen? could some of these back door prints have been given away as little thankyou's for hard work done.
Also (i dont know about the truth in this but it was posted on an ebay sellers listing) a number of galleries were sent unsigned/un-numbered copies (test samples) in an effort to drum up sales! Is this the case?
Were they all stolen? could some of these back door prints have been given away as little thankyou's for hard work done.
Also (i dont know about the truth in this but it was posted on an ebay sellers listing) a number of galleries were sent unsigned/un-numbered copies (test samples) in an effort to drum up sales! Is this the case?
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by a4mnt on Nov 20, 2007 19:28:40 GMT 1, its an interesting subject though and part and parcel of the Banksy/POW mystique blah blah.
I personally know little of all this except what i've been told in person.
I'd like to know more, but i guess that just isn't prudent.
Maybe we could have a 'history of the backdoor prints' speech at the forum awards, so we can dispel the myths and make our own (drunken) decisions.
Or maybe that sounds all too school like and might possibly cut into decent drinking time 
its an interesting subject though and part and parcel of the Banksy/POW mystique blah blah. I personally know little of all this except what i've been told in person. I'd like to know more, but i guess that just isn't prudent. Maybe we could have a 'history of the backdoor prints' speech at the forum awards, so we can dispel the myths and make our own (drunken) decisions. Or maybe that sounds all too school like and might possibly cut into decent drinking time |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by buster on Nov 20, 2007 19:31:10 GMT 1, Were they all stolen? could some of these back door prints have been given away as little thankyou's for hard work done. Also (i dont know about the truth in this but it was posted on an ebay sellers listing) a number of galleries were sent unsigned/un-numbered copies (test samples) in an effort to drum up sales! Is this the case?
Were they all stolen? could some of these back door prints have been given away as little thankyou's for hard work done. Also (i dont know about the truth in this but it was posted on an ebay sellers listing) a number of galleries were sent unsigned/un-numbered copies (test samples) in an effort to drum up sales! Is this the case? The majority were lifted from the printers, thankyous tended to be signed or hearted depending on who they were from and the shop ones were simply that promotional pieces. NONE of which were ever supplied for resale by POW as extra run prints... hence the whole idea of the LIMITED and numbered run of prints for each edition. |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by westley on Nov 20, 2007 19:32:30 GMT 1, I have a couple that were given away by pow to a member of staff who worked at one of the ghettos and have a paper trail on it to trace it back to pow i also have a love rat dink print and a dolk dink that come from pow
I have a couple that were given away by pow to a member of staff who worked at one of the ghettos and have a paper trail on it to trace it back to pow i also have a love rat dink print and a dolk dink that come from pow
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by buster on Nov 20, 2007 19:40:34 GMT 1, I have a couple that were given away by pow to a member of staff who worked at one of the ghettos and have a paper trail on it to trace it back to pow i also have a love rat dink print and a dolk dink that come from pow
I have a couple that were given away by pow to a member of staff who worked at one of the ghettos and have a paper trail on it to trace it back to pow i also have a love rat dink print and a dolk dink that come from pow What type of paper trail westley as I remember a MQ and another print being sold from a ghetto member of staff about 18 months ago where Steph and POW refused point blank to validate any prints given to staff members as gifts for working at past ghettos. Just curious as different people have different ideas what constitutes a decent piece of prov worthy paper. I am asking this out of curiosity and not for any other motive. |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Nov 20, 2007 19:47:19 GMT 1, so do these backdoor prints bring the authenticity of any un-numbered un-POW stamped prints into question where there is no provinence being that it is quite easy to write for example 456/600 in pencil ?
It certainly seems that some of the unstamped and numbered prints that have no provinence certainly seem to sell for a bit less than a print with provinence such as the one that sold for only £600 last month on ebay.
so do these backdoor prints bring the authenticity of any un-numbered un-POW stamped prints into question where there is no provinence being that it is quite easy to write for example 456/600 in pencil ?
It certainly seems that some of the unstamped and numbered prints that have no provinence certainly seem to sell for a bit less than a print with provinence such as the one that sold for only £600 last month on ebay.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by westley on Nov 20, 2007 20:03:34 GMT 1, i just have a signed statement a photocopy of there driving license
i just have a signed statement a photocopy of there driving license
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by stuey09 on Nov 20, 2007 20:07:30 GMT 1, I have a couple that were given away by pow to a member of staff who worked at one of the ghettos and have a paper trail on it to trace it back to pow i also have a love rat dink print and a dolk dink that come from pow
Aye, but the key thing here is that they weren't intended for general circulation. Otherwise it would make a total mockery of the Limited edition.
I have a couple that were given away by pow to a member of staff who worked at one of the ghettos and have a paper trail on it to trace it back to pow i also have a love rat dink print and a dolk dink that come from pow Aye, but the key thing here is that they weren't intended for general circulation. Otherwise it would make a total mockery of the Limited edition. |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 20, 2007 20:17:32 GMT 1, so do these backdoor prints bring the authenticity of any un-numbered un-POW stamped prints into question where there is no provinence being that it is quite easy to write for example 456/600 in pencil ? It certainly seems that some of the unstamped and numbered prints that have no provinence certainly seem to sell for a bit less than a print with provinence such as the one that sold for only £600 last month on ebay.
nail square on the head my son! DO NOT buy any print, pre-stamp with no POW prov, tom tom will not do either, it must be from POW. if you do take this risk then you leave yourself wide open to have a worthless print if you ever come to sell and i can pretty much guarantee that if you require the insurance to pay out for it then they will want more than a 'receipt and a driving licence' FFS!!! 
POW and LAZ are the only people who can authenticate banksy prints, without it it ain't worth a bean, it's just ink and paper, a poster.
so do these backdoor prints bring the authenticity of any un-numbered un-POW stamped prints into question where there is no provinence being that it is quite easy to write for example 456/600 in pencil ? It certainly seems that some of the unstamped and numbered prints that have no provinence certainly seem to sell for a bit less than a print with provinence such as the one that sold for only £600 last month on ebay. nail square on the head my son! DO NOT buy any print, pre-stamp with no POW prov, tom tom will not do either, it must be from POW. if you do take this risk then you leave yourself wide open to have a worthless print if you ever come to sell and i can pretty much guarantee that if you require the insurance to pay out for it then they will want more than a 'receipt and a driving licence' FFS!!! POW and LAZ are the only people who can authenticate banksy prints, without it it ain't worth a bean, it's just ink and paper, a poster. |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by westley on Nov 20, 2007 20:31:53 GMT 1, the pow prov is not worth anything , if someone wanted to fake a print all they have to do is email a ebay seller selling the same print and ask to contact pow and check there details ,then just copy them number on to the second print and when he sells the new buyer of the fake print will check the name he has been given at pow . if you get a copy of there driving license you have some sort of come back if you find out it is a fake
the pow prov is not worth anything , if someone wanted to fake a print all they have to do is email a ebay seller selling the same print and ask to contact pow and check there details ,then just copy them number on to the second print and when he sells the new buyer of the fake print will check the name he has been given at pow . if you get a copy of there driving license you have some sort of come back if you find out it is a fake
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by buster on Nov 20, 2007 20:31:54 GMT 1, so do these backdoor prints bring the authenticity of any un-numbered un-POW stamped prints into question where there is no provinence being that it is quite easy to write for example 456/600 in pencil ? It certainly seems that some of the unstamped and numbered prints that have no provinence certainly seem to sell for a bit less than a print with provinence such as the one that sold for only £600 last month on ebay.
so do these backdoor prints bring the authenticity of any un-numbered un-POW stamped prints into question where there is no provinence being that it is quite easy to write for example 456/600 in pencil ? It certainly seems that some of the unstamped and numbered prints that have no provinence certainly seem to sell for a bit less than a print with provinence such as the one that sold for only £600 last month on ebay. Basically yes, there are other ways to spot if one of these older prints is good, but for someone just getting into it, it'd very easy to spunk a good sum on a piece of backdoor trash, as for buying older prints without, a new buyer would be as well buying a £30 canvas off a stall as to risking a healthly load on an old print that they are unsure about. Just another good reason why these prints shouldnt be encouraged to be sold on.... |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by buster on Nov 20, 2007 20:37:10 GMT 1, the pow prov is not worth anything , if someone wanted to fake a print all they have to do is email a ebay seller selling the same print and ask to contact pow and check there details ,then just copy them number on to the second print and when he sells the new buyer of the fake print will check the name he has been given at pow . if you get a copy of there driving license you have some sort of come back if you find out it is a fake
Anyone fancy telling me why I am getting negged for trying to stop people getting ripped off? 
the pow prov is not worth anything , if someone wanted to fake a print all they have to do is email a ebay seller selling the same print and ask to contact pow and check there details ,then just copy them number on to the second print and when he sells the new buyer of the fake print will check the name he has been given at pow . if you get a copy of there driving license you have some sort of come back if you find out it is a fake A much better argument for not having these prints in circulation than their defense W. Anyone fancy telling me why I am getting negged for trying to stop people getting ripped off? |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 20, 2007 20:50:44 GMT 1, the pow prov is not worth anything , if someone wanted to fake a print all they have to do is email a ebay seller selling the same print and ask to contact pow and check there details ,then just copy them number on to the second print and when he sells the new buyer of the fake print will check the name he has been given at pow . if you get a copy of there driving license you have some sort of come back if you find out it is a fake
or you buy from a gallery that is a reputable business, in time and with enough help from ebay and the amount of scams waiting to happen, it will be the only place to buy in confidence.
oh, and remember, that it will be the only way to sell too, so remember to have your house in order today if you don't want to get bent over in the future............
make sure your trail is watertight and leads directly to pictures on walls, better still a credit card receipt/bill will need to be included.
when prints start routinely going for tens of thousands nothing short of that will do. doesn't matter what you paid for it in the past or what you pay for it today, the system is wide open to abuse and it is only a matter of time before the arse gets scammed out of it. then you will be glad you got all the documentation 'back in the day'.
in case i need to spell it out i will. imagine i have a signed turf war/monkey queen registered to me at POW, or i have one with cast iron prov. then i manage to buy a few backdoor ones, put the same number as mine on it and a signature and sell it on ebay, or wherever. then repeat and repeat again.
now more than ever is there a need for someone to create a database for all current owners as well as those registered at the point of sale. i would call on POW to accept their responsibilities as the sellers of these prints to do so, for a nominal charge and concrete evidence numbered prints can be assigned to their current owner. any discrepancies get investigated and cleared up. we are not talking about a happy chopper that was a tenner cheaper than a big sponge finger, we are talking serious money, serious fraud and potentially thousands of pounds in the future.
bit of a rant in the end but it is absolutely prudent that together we weed out the crap and get our house in order collectively. it wouldn't be too difficult to do but would need someone with the time and inclination to want to make a difference, or to fulfill their obligations.
my last post got me negged, i'm assuming by a blagger who objects to people agreeing with fraud. the second time today, after i said similar stuff about a gold love is in the air. pipe up if you've got something to say, if you can defend what you're about? 
the pow prov is not worth anything , if someone wanted to fake a print all they have to do is email a ebay seller selling the same print and ask to contact pow and check there details ,then just copy them number on to the second print and when he sells the new buyer of the fake print will check the name he has been given at pow . if you get a copy of there driving license you have some sort of come back if you find out it is a fake or you buy from a gallery that is a reputable business, in time and with enough help from ebay and the amount of scams waiting to happen, it will be the only place to buy in confidence. oh, and remember, that it will be the only way to sell too, so remember to have your house in order today if you don't want to get bent over in the future............ make sure your trail is watertight and leads directly to pictures on walls, better still a credit card receipt/bill will need to be included. when prints start routinely going for tens of thousands nothing short of that will do. doesn't matter what you paid for it in the past or what you pay for it today, the system is wide open to abuse and it is only a matter of time before the arse gets scammed out of it. then you will be glad you got all the documentation 'back in the day'. in case i need to spell it out i will. imagine i have a signed turf war/monkey queen registered to me at POW, or i have one with cast iron prov. then i manage to buy a few backdoor ones, put the same number as mine on it and a signature and sell it on ebay, or wherever. then repeat and repeat again. now more than ever is there a need for someone to create a database for all current owners as well as those registered at the point of sale. i would call on POW to accept their responsibilities as the sellers of these prints to do so, for a nominal charge and concrete evidence numbered prints can be assigned to their current owner. any discrepancies get investigated and cleared up. we are not talking about a happy chopper that was a tenner cheaper than a big sponge finger, we are talking serious money, serious fraud and potentially thousands of pounds in the future. bit of a rant in the end but it is absolutely prudent that together we weed out the crap and get our house in order collectively. it wouldn't be too difficult to do but would need someone with the time and inclination to want to make a difference, or to fulfill their obligations. my last post got me negged, i'm assuming by a blagger who objects to people agreeing with fraud. the second time today, after i said similar stuff about a gold love is in the air. pipe up if you've got something to say, if you can defend what you're about? |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 20, 2007 20:53:33 GMT 1, i've been negged twice on this thread buster and once on the gold LIITA one earlier today, like yourself. more of these hooky prints and owners with devious intentions than i'd thought, mmm........... 
i've been negged twice on this thread buster and once on the gold LIITA one earlier today, like yourself. more of these hooky prints and owners with devious intentions than i'd thought, mmm........... |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by westley on Nov 20, 2007 21:13:39 GMT 1, i Agree with you rupert you need to have as many details as you can get i just like to have a photocopy of a drivers license so if any thing happens i have details to trace them back and again pow do need to sort out a new data base .and just to say that i did not - you your views on my gold Flower Thrower is up to you i also have a color wsm i like them and i think that they have there place
i Agree with you rupert you need to have as many details as you can get i just like to have a photocopy of a drivers license so if any thing happens i have details to trace them back and again pow do need to sort out a new data base .and just to say that i did not - you your views on my gold Flower Thrower is up to you i also have a color wsm i like them and i think that they have there place
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 20, 2007 21:55:32 GMT 1, i Agree with you rupert you need to have as many details as you can get i just like to have a photocopy of a drivers license so if any thing happens i have details to trace them back and again pow do need to sort out a new data base .and just to say that i did not - you your views on my gold Flower Thrower is up to you i also have a color wsm i like them and i think that they have there place
no sweat at all dude, contrasting opinions is what a debate is all about - people can agree/disagree and draw their own conclusions from the various points raised.
i wish more would get involved and add something rather than neg, or even +1 - sometimes it helps to know why people agree with you!
the driving licence thing is fine as an added security measure to reassure yourself in the case of things going wrong, my point was just that you should never rely on that alone.
i Agree with you rupert you need to have as many details as you can get i just like to have a photocopy of a drivers license so if any thing happens i have details to trace them back and again pow do need to sort out a new data base .and just to say that i did not - you your views on my gold Flower Thrower is up to you i also have a color wsm i like them and i think that they have there place no sweat at all dude, contrasting opinions is what a debate is all about - people can agree/disagree and draw their own conclusions from the various points raised. i wish more would get involved and add something rather than neg, or even +1 - sometimes it helps to know why people agree with you! the driving licence thing is fine as an added security measure to reassure yourself in the case of things going wrong, my point was just that you should never rely on that alone. |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Nov 21, 2007 16:09:02 GMT 1, just seen a QM and flying copper on th bay so thats 2 more to add to the backdoor edition list.
just seen a QM and flying copper on th bay so thats 2 more to add to the backdoor edition list.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by dmandpenfold on Nov 21, 2007 17:29:49 GMT 1, just seen a QM and flying copper on th bay so thats 2 more to add to the backdoor edition list.
They're pretty rough nick, but if you're not too worried about collecting, investing and selling or swapping later they would make an interesting curiosity for the wall, nothing else, they are for real if from the same place as the originals but worthless in value being haggard backdoor specials..... (that said someone's bid GBP100 on the Queen Vic )
posted some more info on them a little earlier-
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just seen a QM and flying copper on th bay so thats 2 more to add to the backdoor edition list. They're pretty rough nick, but if you're not too worried about collecting, investing and selling or swapping later they would make an interesting curiosity for the wall, nothing else, they are for real if from the same place as the originals but worthless in value being haggard backdoor specials..... (that said someone's bid GBP100 on the Queen Vic ) posted some more info on them a little earlier- banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=ebaychat&action=display&thread=1195650641 |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Nov 21, 2007 19:57:29 GMT 1, what do you believe the QV will go for?
3-400 maybe or do you think less?
what do you believe the QV will go for?
3-400 maybe or do you think less?
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by westley on Nov 21, 2007 20:07:04 GMT 1, i think around 600
i think around 600
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Nov 21, 2007 20:11:51 GMT 1, blinking heck. whats a real one go for in good nick?
blinking heck. whats a real one go for in good nick?
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by craigf on Nov 22, 2007 10:16:15 GMT 1, QV around £1.5k seems the current going rate
QV around £1.5k seems the current going rate
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by dodge on Feb 1, 2008 22:25:25 GMT 1, What is a reasonable price for a back door print? A couple of Banksy pieces I would love to own (Flower Thrower & Monkey Queen) are kicking around as shifty jobbies from the printers. I could not afford the originals but wouldn't mind framing one of these.
What is the usual going rate for them?
What is a reasonable price for a back door print? A couple of Banksy pieces I would love to own (Flower Thrower & Monkey Queen) are kicking around as shifty jobbies from the printers. I could not afford the originals but wouldn't mind framing one of these.
What is the usual going rate for them?
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by foundation on Feb 1, 2008 22:41:22 GMT 1, What is a reasonable price for a back door print? A couple of Banksy pieces I would love to own (Flower Thrower & Monkey Queen) are kicking around as shifty jobbies from the printers. I could not afford the originals but wouldn't mind framing one of these. What is the usual going rate for them?
What is a reasonable price for a back door print? A couple of Banksy pieces I would love to own (Flower Thrower & Monkey Queen) are kicking around as shifty jobbies from the printers. I could not afford the originals but wouldn't mind framing one of these. What is the usual going rate for them? Why not get a hi-res image and print out the images yourself? It'll be cheaper and provide the same image without getting fleaced on a poster that someone says came from the same run etc... as its backdoor there is no proof of when and where it came from, and the recent developments with the faked laugh nows show that some unscrupulous people of questionable heritage out htere are happy to rip off the collector..... save your money and buy a real one if you are that keen on owning a banksy, or feel free to get ripped off buying something that could have been printed up yesterday. Even if its a backdoor print.... its stolen, why buy it? Going back to your original question of whats a decent price for a backdoor print? for free would be my answer, as thats what the folk who either stole them from the printers or printed them up themselves paid.. |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by carl on Feb 2, 2008 1:04:38 GMT 1, What is a reasonable price for a back door print? A couple of Banksy pieces I would love to own (Flower Thrower & Monkey Queen) are kicking around as shifty jobbies from the printers. I could not afford the originals but wouldn't mind framing one of these. What is the usual going rate for them? Why not get a hi-res image and print out the images yourself? It'll be cheaper and provide the same image without getting fleaced on a poster that someone says came from the same run etc... as its backdoor there is no proof of when and where it came from, and the recent developments with the faked laugh nows show that some unscrupulous people of questionable heritage out htere are happy to rip off the collector..... save your money and buy a real one if you are that keen on owning a banksy, or feel free to get ripped off buying something that could have been printed up yesterday. Even if its a backdoor print.... its stolen, why buy it? Going back to your original question of whats a decent price for a backdoor print? for free would be my answer, as thats what the folk who either stole them from the printers or printed them up themselves paid..
yep. do that
What is a reasonable price for a back door print? A couple of Banksy pieces I would love to own (Flower Thrower & Monkey Queen) are kicking around as shifty jobbies from the printers. I could not afford the originals but wouldn't mind framing one of these. What is the usual going rate for them? Why not get a hi-res image and print out the images yourself? It'll be cheaper and provide the same image without getting fleaced on a poster that someone says came from the same run etc... as its backdoor there is no proof of when and where it came from, and the recent developments with the faked laugh nows show that some unscrupulous people of questionable heritage out htere are happy to rip off the collector..... save your money and buy a real one if you are that keen on owning a banksy, or feel free to get ripped off buying something that could have been printed up yesterday. Even if its a backdoor print.... its stolen, why buy it? Going back to your original question of whats a decent price for a backdoor print? for free would be my answer, as thats what the folk who either stole them from the printers or printed them up themselves paid.. yep. do that |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by hungrig on Feb 2, 2008 1:17:03 GMT 1, What is a reasonable price for a back door print? A couple of Banksy pieces I would love to own (Flower Thrower & Monkey Queen) are kicking around as shifty jobbies from the printers. I could not afford the originals but wouldn't mind framing one of these. What is the usual going rate for them?
What is the usual going rate for pirated CDs or DVDs? Do you really want to be associated with stolen goods?
What is a reasonable price for a back door print? A couple of Banksy pieces I would love to own (Flower Thrower & Monkey Queen) are kicking around as shifty jobbies from the printers. I could not afford the originals but wouldn't mind framing one of these. What is the usual going rate for them? What is the usual going rate for pirated CDs or DVDs? Do you really want to be associated with stolen goods? |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by carl on Feb 2, 2008 1:18:19 GMT 1, What is a reasonable price for a back door print? A couple of Banksy pieces I would love to own (Flower Thrower & Monkey Queen) are kicking around as shifty jobbies from the printers. I could not afford the originals but wouldn't mind framing one of these. What is the usual going rate for them? What is the usual going rate for pirated CDs or DVDs? Do you really want to be associated with stolen goods?
£5 for a dvd or £15 for three 
What is a reasonable price for a back door print? A couple of Banksy pieces I would love to own (Flower Thrower & Monkey Queen) are kicking around as shifty jobbies from the printers. I could not afford the originals but wouldn't mind framing one of these. What is the usual going rate for them? What is the usual going rate for pirated CDs or DVDs? Do you really want to be associated with stolen goods? £5 for a dvd or £15 for three |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by guest2 on Feb 2, 2008 1:42:07 GMT 1, What is the usual going rate for pirated CDs or DVDs? Do you really want to be associated with stolen goods? £5 for a dvd or £15 for three
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What is the usual going rate for pirated CDs or DVDs? Do you really want to be associated with stolen goods? £5 for a dvd or £15 for three 'Wok Busters' Rule! |
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