Carl Cashman
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New BANKSY stall, by Carl Cashman on Nov 3, 2018 13:53:52 GMT 1,
I wonder how many people staying at the Walled Off Hotel take any great interest in Palestine or the Palestinian people. Let's face it; they go there because it's a Banksy hotel - and they can pick up some Banksy trinkets to take home. No other reason.
Fans of banksy, stay in banksy hotel as they are fans of his work ... Shock. Loads of people went before there was merch for Sale.
The hotel is there to raise awareness, if he only wanted to sell tee shirts and merch, there would be a shop in London or somewhere equally as easy to get to.
I wonder how many people staying at the Walled Off Hotel take any great interest in Palestine or the Palestinian people. Let's face it; they go there because it's a Banksy hotel - and they can pick up some Banksy trinkets to take home. No other reason. Fans of banksy, stay in banksy hotel as they are fans of his work ... Shock. Loads of people went before there was merch for Sale. The hotel is there to raise awareness, if he only wanted to sell tee shirts and merch, there would be a shop in London or somewhere equally as easy to get to.
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New BANKSY stall, by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 13:58:16 GMT 1, I wonder how many people staying at the Walled Off Hotel take any great interest in Palestine or the Palestinian people. Let's face it; they go there because it's a Banksy hotel - and they can pick up some Banksy trinkets to take home. No other reason.
No doubt bookings picked up after the boxset release but the place was very busy for a time before then. Easier ways to pick up trinkets and tatt than going to Palestine.
I wonder how many people staying at the Walled Off Hotel take any great interest in Palestine or the Palestinian people. Let's face it; they go there because it's a Banksy hotel - and they can pick up some Banksy trinkets to take home. No other reason. No doubt bookings picked up after the boxset release but the place was very busy for a time before then. Easier ways to pick up trinkets and tatt than going to Palestine.
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New BANKSY stall, by Rouen Cathedral on Nov 3, 2018 14:03:42 GMT 1, That's the problem. They take notice of banksy first and foremost. The 'cause' always seems second. To be honest I'm not sure it's fault or a criticism to banksy.... do you think it would be better if he did nothing ?
No but I think he plays into the hype.
He could do a lot more to dispell the chaos of possibly getting a banksy trinket to then flip on eBay.
As dappy so kindly pointed me too. He like to sealion.
That's the problem. They take notice of banksy first and foremost. The 'cause' always seems second. To be honest I'm not sure it's fault or a criticism to banksy.... do you think it would be better if he did nothing ? No but I think he plays into the hype. He could do a lot more to dispell the chaos of possibly getting a banksy trinket to then flip on eBay. As dappy so kindly pointed me too. He like to sealion.
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New BANKSY stall, by rockbeer on Nov 3, 2018 14:06:43 GMT 1, I'm sure he believes in supporting Palestine and the Palestinian people, but is this the right way to go about it? What is his aim exactly? To increase the Palestinian GDP? To improve the lives of Palestinians? To highlight human rights abuses? I can't see this travel agency trade fair doing any of those things, can you?
The thing that strikes me about this sort of argument is how seldom the person advancing it actually has an alternative suggestion about what the person they are criticizing should be doing instead of the thing they are doing.
It's impossible for any of us to say yet whether or not Banksy's trade fair stall will accomplish any of the aims you list (which, I note, you've attributed to himโthey aren't the aims he's declared for himself) because none of us have seen the stall.
But that hasn't stopped you declaring what he intends to achieve, declaring he hasn't achieved it, and declaring that he ought to be doing some other unspecified thing instead in pursuit of the aims you've ascribed to him.
In essence you seem to be saying he ought to be doing nothing. And for no better reason than because that would make you happier. Seems to me that you're just using his trade stall as a handy stick to beat him with. What's the point of that? And what do you think he should be doing instead?
I'm sure he believes in supporting Palestine and the Palestinian people, but is this the right way to go about it? What is his aim exactly? To increase the Palestinian GDP? To improve the lives of Palestinians? To highlight human rights abuses? I can't see this travel agency trade fair doing any of those things, can you? The thing that strikes me about this sort of argument is how seldom the person advancing it actually has an alternative suggestion about what the person they are criticizing should be doing instead of the thing they are doing. It's impossible for any of us to say yet whether or not Banksy's trade fair stall will accomplish any of the aims you list (which, I note, you've attributed to himโthey aren't the aims he's declared for himself) because none of us have seen the stall. But that hasn't stopped you declaring what he intends to achieve, declaring he hasn't achieved it, and declaring that he ought to be doing some other unspecified thing instead in pursuit of the aims you've ascribed to him. In essence you seem to be saying he ought to be doing nothing. And for no better reason than because that would make you happier. Seems to me that you're just using his trade stall as a handy stick to beat him with. What's the point of that? And what do you think he should be doing instead?
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New BANKSY stall, by Pysgod on Nov 3, 2018 14:07:49 GMT 1, Everyone takes notice when Banksy is involved no matter what the cause, so the real answer is YES That's the problem. They take notice of banksy first and foremost. The 'cause' always seems second. To be honest I'm not sure it's fault or a criticism to banksy.... Why is it a problem ? who is the 'they' you speak of ?
I for one wouldn't have heard about any of the causes had it not been for banksy highlighting it whether I believe in the cause or not and if I want to support it after banksy has gone home is up to me,
But good on him I say
Everyone takes notice when Banksy is involved no matter what the cause, so the real answer is YES That's the problem. They take notice of banksy first and foremost. The 'cause' always seems second. To be honest I'm not sure it's fault or a criticism to banksy.... Why is it a problem ? who is the 'they' you speak of ? I for one wouldn't have heard about any of the causes had it not been for banksy highlighting it whether I believe in the cause or not and if I want to support it after banksy has gone home is up to me, But good on him I say
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New BANKSY stall, by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:16:49 GMT 1, I'm sure he believes in supporting Palestine and the Palestinian people, but is this the right way to go about it? What is his aim exactly? To increase the Palestinian GDP? To improve the lives of Palestinians? To highlight human rights abuses? I can't see this travel agency trade fair doing any of those things, can you? The thing that strikes me about this sort of argument is how seldom the person advancing it actually has an alternative suggestion about what the person they are criticizing should be doing instead of the thing they are doing. It's impossible for any of us to say yet whether or not Banksy's trade fair stall will accomplish any of the aims you list (which, I note, you've attributed to himโthey aren't the aims he's declared for himself) because none of us have seen the stall. But that hasn't stopped you declaring what he intends to achieve, declaring he hasn't achieved it, and declaring that he ought to be doing some other unspecified thing instead in pursuit of the aims you've ascribed to him. In essence you seem to be saying he ought to be doing nothing. And for no better reason than because that would make you happier. Seems to me that you're just using his trade stall as a handy stick to beat him with. What's the point of that? And what do you think he should be doing instead? I don't think you read my post correctly. I have not stated what Banksy should be doing or what he is intending to achieve here. I am trying to clarify exactly what the aim of this travel agency stunt could be. I put forward some potential answers which do not appear to stand up to scrutiny. So what other potential answers can you think of? And do they stay up to scrutiny? I have certainly not suggested he "ought to be doing nothing". One suggestion is that he produces a few one-off pieces and sell them at Sothebys for 1 million each. He could then give all the money to a Palestinian charity group. I'm sure that would do a lot more good than staying in his hotel.
I'm sure he believes in supporting Palestine and the Palestinian people, but is this the right way to go about it? What is his aim exactly? To increase the Palestinian GDP? To improve the lives of Palestinians? To highlight human rights abuses? I can't see this travel agency trade fair doing any of those things, can you? The thing that strikes me about this sort of argument is how seldom the person advancing it actually has an alternative suggestion about what the person they are criticizing should be doing instead of the thing they are doing. It's impossible for any of us to say yet whether or not Banksy's trade fair stall will accomplish any of the aims you list (which, I note, you've attributed to himโthey aren't the aims he's declared for himself) because none of us have seen the stall. But that hasn't stopped you declaring what he intends to achieve, declaring he hasn't achieved it, and declaring that he ought to be doing some other unspecified thing instead in pursuit of the aims you've ascribed to him. In essence you seem to be saying he ought to be doing nothing. And for no better reason than because that would make you happier. Seems to me that you're just using his trade stall as a handy stick to beat him with. What's the point of that? And what do you think he should be doing instead? I don't think you read my post correctly. I have not stated what Banksy should be doing or what he is intending to achieve here. I am trying to clarify exactly what the aim of this travel agency stunt could be. I put forward some potential answers which do not appear to stand up to scrutiny. So what other potential answers can you think of? And do they stay up to scrutiny? I have certainly not suggested he "ought to be doing nothing". One suggestion is that he produces a few one-off pieces and sell them at Sothebys for 1 million each. He could then give all the money to a Palestinian charity group. I'm sure that would do a lot more good than staying in his hotel.
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New BANKSY stall, by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:19:41 GMT 1, do you think it would be better if he did nothing ? No but I think he plays into the hype. He could do a lot more to dispell the chaos of possibly getting a banksy trinket to then flip on eBay. As dappy so kindly pointed me too. He like to sealion.
What is the hype ? If i didnt read this forum I wouldnt know about this particular stall. Dismaland,Walledoff, Bristol Museum etc werent hyped, they made national news as they were newsworthy in UK anyhow.
Long way to go at significant expense to get trinkets to flip.
do you think it would be better if he did nothing ? No but I think he plays into the hype. He could do a lot more to dispell the chaos of possibly getting a banksy trinket to then flip on eBay. As dappy so kindly pointed me too. He like to sealion. What is the hype ? If i didnt read this forum I wouldnt know about this particular stall. Dismaland,Walledoff, Bristol Museum etc werent hyped, they made national news as they were newsworthy in UK anyhow. Long way to go at significant expense to get trinkets to flip.
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New BANKSY stall, by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:22:37 GMT 1, The thing that strikes me about this sort of argument is how seldom the person advancing it actually has an alternative suggestion about what the person they are criticizing should be doing instead of the thing they are doing. It's impossible for any of us to say yet whether or not Banksy's trade fair stall will accomplish any of the aims you list (which, I note, you've attributed to himโthey aren't the aims he's declared for himself) because none of us have seen the stall. But that hasn't stopped you declaring what he intends to achieve, declaring he hasn't achieved it, and declaring that he ought to be doing some other unspecified thing instead in pursuit of the aims you've ascribed to him. In essence you seem to be saying he ought to be doing nothing. And for no better reason than because that would make you happier. Seems to me that you're just using his trade stall as a handy stick to beat him with. What's the point of that? And what do you think he should be doing instead? I don't think you read my post correctly. ย I have not stated what Banksy should be doing or what he is intending to achieve here. ย I am trying to clarify exactly what the aim of this travel agency stunt could be. ย I put forward some potential answers which do not appear to stand up to scrutiny. ย So what other potential answers can you think of? ย And do they stay up to scrutiny? I have certainly not suggested he "ought to be doing nothing". ย One suggestion is that he produces a few one-off pieces and sell them at Sothebys for 1 million each. He could then give all the money to a Palestinian charity group. ย I'm sure that would do a lot more good than staying in his hotel.
I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then.
The thing that strikes me about this sort of argument is how seldom the person advancing it actually has an alternative suggestion about what the person they are criticizing should be doing instead of the thing they are doing. It's impossible for any of us to say yet whether or not Banksy's trade fair stall will accomplish any of the aims you list (which, I note, you've attributed to himโthey aren't the aims he's declared for himself) because none of us have seen the stall. But that hasn't stopped you declaring what he intends to achieve, declaring he hasn't achieved it, and declaring that he ought to be doing some other unspecified thing instead in pursuit of the aims you've ascribed to him. In essence you seem to be saying he ought to be doing nothing. And for no better reason than because that would make you happier. Seems to me that you're just using his trade stall as a handy stick to beat him with. What's the point of that? And what do you think he should be doing instead? I don't think you read my post correctly. ย I have not stated what Banksy should be doing or what he is intending to achieve here. ย I am trying to clarify exactly what the aim of this travel agency stunt could be. ย I put forward some potential answers which do not appear to stand up to scrutiny. ย So what other potential answers can you think of? ย And do they stay up to scrutiny? I have certainly not suggested he "ought to be doing nothing". ย One suggestion is that he produces a few one-off pieces and sell them at Sothebys for 1 million each. He could then give all the money to a Palestinian charity group. ย I'm sure that would do a lot more good than staying in his hotel. I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then.
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New BANKSY stall, by Rouen Cathedral on Nov 3, 2018 14:23:24 GMT 1, No but I think he plays into the hype. He could do a lot more to dispell the chaos of possibly getting a banksy trinket to then flip on eBay. As dappy so kindly pointed me too. He like to sealion. What is the hype ? If i didnt read this forum I wouldnt know about this particular stall. Dismaland,Walledoff, Bristol Museum etc werent hyped, they made national news as they were newsworthy in UK anyhow. Long way to go at significant expense to get trinkets to flip.
Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'?
No but I think he plays into the hype. He could do a lot more to dispell the chaos of possibly getting a banksy trinket to then flip on eBay. As dappy so kindly pointed me too. He like to sealion. What is the hype ? If i didnt read this forum I wouldnt know about this particular stall. Dismaland,Walledoff, Bristol Museum etc werent hyped, they made national news as they were newsworthy in UK anyhow. Long way to go at significant expense to get trinkets to flip. Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'?
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New BANKSY stall, by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:24:01 GMT 1, What is the hype ? If i didnt read this forum I wouldnt know about this particular stall. Dismaland,Walledoff, Bristol Museum etc werent hyped, they made national news as they were newsworthy in UK anyhow. Long way to go at significant expense to get trinkets to flip. Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'?
I dont know.
What is the hype ? If i didnt read this forum I wouldnt know about this particular stall. Dismaland,Walledoff, Bristol Museum etc werent hyped, they made national news as they were newsworthy in UK anyhow. Long way to go at significant expense to get trinkets to flip. Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'? I dont know.
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New BANKSY stall, by Whitefish on Nov 3, 2018 14:29:14 GMT 1,
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New BANKSY stall, by lha on Nov 3, 2018 14:32:28 GMT 1, Posted on the Walled off Hotel Insta โฌ๏ธ
Posted on the Walled off Hotel Insta โฌ๏ธ
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New BANKSY stall, by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:41:23 GMT 1, I don't think you read my post correctly. I have not stated what Banksy should be doing or what he is intending to achieve here. I am trying to clarify exactly what the aim of this travel agency stunt could be. I put forward some potential answers which do not appear to stand up to scrutiny. So what other potential answers can you think of? And do they stay up to scrutiny? I have certainly not suggested he "ought to be doing nothing". One suggestion is that he produces a few one-off pieces and sell them at Sothebys for 1 million each. He could then give all the money to a Palestinian charity group. I'm sure that would do a lot more good than staying in his hotel. I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel?
I don't think you read my post correctly. I have not stated what Banksy should be doing or what he is intending to achieve here. I am trying to clarify exactly what the aim of this travel agency stunt could be. I put forward some potential answers which do not appear to stand up to scrutiny. So what other potential answers can you think of? And do they stay up to scrutiny? I have certainly not suggested he "ought to be doing nothing". One suggestion is that he produces a few one-off pieces and sell them at Sothebys for 1 million each. He could then give all the money to a Palestinian charity group. I'm sure that would do a lot more good than staying in his hotel. I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel?
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New BANKSY stall, by Pysgod on Nov 3, 2018 14:44:10 GMT 1, What is the hype ? If i didnt read this forum I wouldnt know about this particular stall. Dismaland,Walledoff, Bristol Museum etc werent hyped, they made national news as they were newsworthy in UK anyhow. Long way to go at significant expense to get trinkets to flip. Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'? Because that is exactly what happens at these events, the giving away free stuff !
if he announced he was selling prints at a travel fair then you would have a point
ps dont be a p*ick all weekend
What is the hype ? If i didnt read this forum I wouldnt know about this particular stall. Dismaland,Walledoff, Bristol Museum etc werent hyped, they made national news as they were newsworthy in UK anyhow. Long way to go at significant expense to get trinkets to flip. Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'? Because that is exactly what happens at these events, the giving away free stuff ! if he announced he was selling prints at a travel fair then you would have a point ps dont be a p*ick all weekend
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rockbeer
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New BANKSY stall, by rockbeer on Nov 3, 2018 14:52:38 GMT 1, I don't think you read my post correctly. I have not stated what Banksy should be doing or what he is intending to achieve here. I am trying to clarify exactly what the aim of this travel agency stunt could be. I put forward some potential answers which do not appear to stand up to scrutiny. So what other potential answers can you think of? And do they stay up to scrutiny? I have certainly not suggested he "ought to be doing nothing". One suggestion is that he produces a few one-off pieces and sell them at Sothebys for 1 million each. He could then give all the money to a Palestinian charity group. I'm sure that would do a lot more good than staying in his hotel.
Apologies if I've misinterpreted you โย and I take your point. Banksy hasn't stated a purpose as such so we're left to speculate, at least for the time being... We might have a better idea what the point is when all is revealed next week. I'd be very surprised if raising awareness wasn't a big part of it, but I'm happy to wait and see.
As for charitable donations, we have no way of knowing what donations he makes or to whom. Again, I'd be surprised if he didn't contribute financially to various causes, but I don't blame him for not publicizing it. If he did a big Sothebys splash like you're suggesting, people would only attack him on the grounds that he was just doing it for the publicity.
But that's all speculation too.
I don't think you read my post correctly. I have not stated what Banksy should be doing or what he is intending to achieve here. I am trying to clarify exactly what the aim of this travel agency stunt could be. I put forward some potential answers which do not appear to stand up to scrutiny. So what other potential answers can you think of? And do they stay up to scrutiny? I have certainly not suggested he "ought to be doing nothing". One suggestion is that he produces a few one-off pieces and sell them at Sothebys for 1 million each. He could then give all the money to a Palestinian charity group. I'm sure that would do a lot more good than staying in his hotel. Apologies if I've misinterpreted you โย and I take your point. Banksy hasn't stated a purpose as such so we're left to speculate, at least for the time being... We might have a better idea what the point is when all is revealed next week. I'd be very surprised if raising awareness wasn't a big part of it, but I'm happy to wait and see. As for charitable donations, we have no way of knowing what donations he makes or to whom. Again, I'd be surprised if he didn't contribute financially to various causes, but I don't blame him for not publicizing it. If he did a big Sothebys splash like you're suggesting, people would only attack him on the grounds that he was just doing it for the publicity. But that's all speculation too.
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New BANKSY stall, by ๐ ๐ ๐ on Nov 3, 2018 14:53:03 GMT 1, I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. ย Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel? Yes
I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. ย Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel? Yes
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New BANKSY stall, by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:54:46 GMT 1, I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. ย Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel? i think if you read the comments of folks on here who have visited youโll find most did the tours although you dont need to do the tour to have your mind changed or opened.
The hotel is the reason why most folks interested in Banksy visited, it would be foolish to say thousands would have suddenly visited Palestine without the hotel. The hotel is only a small part of the visit.
Try and get there and youโll see where Im coming from.
I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. ย Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel? i think if you read the comments of folks on here who have visited youโll find most did the tours although you dont need to do the tour to have your mind changed or opened. The hotel is the reason why most folks interested in Banksy visited, it would be foolish to say thousands would have suddenly visited Palestine without the hotel. The hotel is only a small part of the visit. Try and get there and youโll see where Im coming from.
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New BANKSY stall, by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:56:22 GMT 1, I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel?
The entire point of the hotel is to make people more socially and politically aware. Yes they do tour Palestine.
I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel?
The entire point of the hotel is to make people more socially and politically aware. Yes they do tour Palestine.
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New BANKSY stall, by S.A.S on Nov 3, 2018 14:58:31 GMT 1, I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. ย Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel?
maybe worth you visiting the walled off and going on a few tours yourself instead off just assuming. because the people I know that have visited it has certainly been an eye opener and shocking but also great experience.the fact that sometimes been woken up to bombings and enclosed withing a giant wall how can you say this wouldn't make you more aware of things.visiting any other country broadens your mind.so when you visit the worst view in the world again why would it not be an eye opener. and just to link back into the actual thread of the stall. maybe the free gifts is connected to making a booking to the hotel. and finally people are taking about it so it's working.... already highlighting Palestine again. job well done on his part.looking forward to see how it pans out.
I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. ย Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel? maybe worth you visiting the walled off and going on a few tours yourself instead off just assuming. because the people I know that have visited it has certainly been an eye opener and shocking but also great experience.the fact that sometimes been woken up to bombings and enclosed withing a giant wall how can you say this wouldn't make you more aware of things.visiting any other country broadens your mind.so when you visit the worst view in the world again why would it not be an eye opener. and just to link back into the actual thread of the stall. maybe the free gifts is connected to making a booking to the hotel. and finally people are taking about it so it's working.... already highlighting Palestine again. job well done on his part.looking forward to see how it pans out.
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New BANKSY stall, by kaos on Nov 3, 2018 15:21:53 GMT 1, Holy baloney!!! Now I get the bit about the "neighbours have complained it's too tall". I'm guessing the ironic bit refer to perhaps the Israeli stall is the neighbour?!
Holy baloney!!! Now I get the bit about the "neighbours have complained it's too tall". I'm guessing the ironic bit refer to perhaps the Israeli stall is the neighbour?!
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New BANKSY stall, by Matt on Nov 3, 2018 15:28:32 GMT 1, What is the hype ? If i didnt read this forum I wouldnt know about this particular stall. Dismaland,Walledoff, Bristol Museum etc werent hyped, they made national news as they were newsworthy in UK anyhow. Long way to go at significant expense to get trinkets to flip. Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'?
Onviously because part of the stunt, whatever it turns out to be, is to have large numbers of people showing up
What is the hype ? If i didnt read this forum I wouldnt know about this particular stall. Dismaland,Walledoff, Bristol Museum etc werent hyped, they made national news as they were newsworthy in UK anyhow. Long way to go at significant expense to get trinkets to flip. Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'? Onviously because part of the stunt, whatever it turns out to be, is to have large numbers of people showing up
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New BANKSY stall, by Chris JL on Nov 3, 2018 15:35:00 GMT 1, Just managed to register without any lies or untruths ๐
Just managed to register without any lies or untruths ๐
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rebate
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January 2018
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New BANKSY stall, by rebate on Nov 3, 2018 15:50:18 GMT 1, Just managed to register without any lies or untruths ๐ thats you taking ALL the blame then.
Just managed to register without any lies or untruths ๐ thats you taking ALL the blame then.
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Carl Cashman
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August 2017
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New BANKSY stall, by Carl Cashman on Nov 3, 2018 15:53:08 GMT 1,
I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel?
Yes... dead sea, hishrams palace, jherrico, mount of temptation, church of nativity, milk grotto, camp aida. $150 a day for your own tour guide.
I think that providing a hotel that attracts people from all over theworld who would never visit Palestine, most of whom have their minds broadened, does more good than giving a million quid every now and then. Sorry but I don't see how staying in a Banksy hotel suddenly and miraculously makes you more socially and politically aware. Do people even tour Palestine when they stay at the hotel? Yes... dead sea, hishrams palace, jherrico, mount of temptation, church of nativity, milk grotto, camp aida. $150 a day for your own tour guide.
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Chris JL
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March 2017
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New BANKSY stall, by Chris JL on Nov 3, 2018 15:58:25 GMT 1, Just managed to register without any lies or untruths ๐ Good on you sir, as this will be info pest control will be utilizing๐ง
Iโm already on pest control mailing list (there is one), so no change there... The info provided for the registration goes to the WTM, but by digging a bit in the preferences one can force them not to spread it.
Just managed to register without any lies or untruths ๐ Good on you sir, as this will be info pest control will be utilizing๐ง Iโm already on pest control mailing list (there is one), so no change there... The info provided for the registration goes to the WTM, but by digging a bit in the preferences one can force them not to spread it.
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New BANKSY stall, by Rouen Cathedral on Nov 3, 2018 16:16:25 GMT 1, Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'? Because that is exactly what happens at these events,ย the giving away free stuffย !ย if he announced he was selling prints at a travel fair then you would have a point psย dont be a p*ick all weekend
Exactly. So if that's what happens then why say it?
Sealioning no?
Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'? Because that is exactly what happens at these events,ย the giving away free stuffย !ย if he announced he was selling prints at a travel fair then you would have a point psย dont be a p*ick all weekend Exactly. So if that's what happens then why say it? Sealioning no?
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New BANKSY stall, by Rouen Cathedral on Nov 3, 2018 16:18:19 GMT 1, Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'? Onviously because part of the stunt, whatever it turns out to be, is to have large numbers of people showing up
Would large numbers not show up if he said he would just be there?
Like I said he feeds the hype. An I don't think that helps the cause. It helps him.
Why does he feel the need to advertise 'free stuff'? Onviously because part of the stunt, whatever it turns out to be, is to have large numbers of people showing up Would large numbers not show up if he said he would just be there? Like I said he feeds the hype. An I don't think that helps the cause. It helps him.
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jimbofatz
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June 2017
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New BANKSY stall, by jimbofatz on Nov 3, 2018 16:21:07 GMT 1, Walled off is the most important thing Banksy has ever done. Glad he constantly creates new projects that bring the focus back onto it.
This is the one time I will go along with the every mug, tote, tshirt is limited find the excuse within yourself to spend, spend, spend on this one.
Enjoy.
Walled off is the most important thing Banksy has ever done. Glad he constantly creates new projects that bring the focus back onto it.
This is the one time I will go along with the every mug, tote, tshirt is limited find the excuse within yourself to spend, spend, spend on this one.
Enjoy.
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moron
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September 2017
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New BANKSY stall, by moron on Nov 3, 2018 16:42:44 GMT 1, Onviously because part of the stunt, whatever it turns out to be, is to have large numbers of people showing up Would large numbers not show up if he said he would just be there? Like I said he feeds the hype. An I don't think that helps the cause. It helps him. Bethlehem for Christmas.
How nice is that.
Onviously because part of the stunt, whatever it turns out to be, is to have large numbers of people showing up Would large numbers not show up if he said he would just be there? Like I said he feeds the hype. An I don't think that helps the cause. It helps him. Bethlehem for Christmas. How nice is that.
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moron
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September 2017
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New BANKSY stall, by moron on Nov 3, 2018 16:46:42 GMT 1, That's the problem. They take notice of banksy first and foremost. The 'cause' always seems second. To be honest I'm not sure it's fault or a criticism to banksy.... Why is it a problem ? who is the 'they' you speak of ? I for one wouldn't have heard about any of the causes had it not been for banksy highlighting it whether I believe in the cause or not and if I want to support it after banksy has gone home is up to me, But good on him I say You must be very young.
The Palestine situation has been in the news for decades. Plus if people decide to google image search just the word "Palestine" or "Gaza" with the safe filter on or off. Rather than "Banksy Palestine" They will never forget the images.
That's the problem. They take notice of banksy first and foremost. The 'cause' always seems second. To be honest I'm not sure it's fault or a criticism to banksy.... Why is it a problem ? who is the 'they' you speak of ? I for one wouldn't have heard about any of the causes had it not been for banksy highlighting it whether I believe in the cause or not and if I want to support it after banksy has gone home is up to me, But good on him I say You must be very young. The Palestine situation has been in the news for decades. Plus if people decide to google image search just the word "Palestine" or "Gaza" with the safe filter on or off. Rather than "Banksy Palestine" They will never forget the images.
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