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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on May 13, 2009 21:19:45 GMT 1, JR B. 1983 FAVELA MORRO DA PROVIDENCIA (FROM 28 MILLIMETRES: WOMEN) 10,000โ12,000 USD Lot Sold. Hammer Price with Buyer's Premium: 25,000 USD wow I thought it would do more, after all 'hold up' made ยฃ21,000, where as this, which imo is a better image made a mere ยฃ16,500. Perhaps the Tate aspect swung it?
It's still a lot though, Hold Up is a cool image and like you said the Tate aspect might have swung it 
JR B. 1983 FAVELA MORRO DA PROVIDENCIA (FROM 28 MILLIMETRES: WOMEN) 10,000โ12,000 USD Lot Sold. Hammer Price with Buyer's Premium: 25,000 USD wow I thought it would do more, after all 'hold up' made ยฃ21,000, where as this, which imo is a better image made a mere ยฃ16,500. Perhaps the Tate aspect swung it? It's still a lot though, Hold Up is a cool image and like you said the Tate aspect might have swung it |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on May 13, 2009 21:39:27 GMT 1, JR made $25,000. Obey $80,000. Walker UNSOLD. walker not the most enticing piece of work -
i agree, just found the image of the piece, small and not his best, though i thought it might have sold for $8000 though , but i guess the reserve was at the lower end of the estimate.
JR made $25,000. Obey $80,000. Walker UNSOLD. walker not the most enticing piece of work - i agree, just found the image of the piece, small and not his best, though i thought it might have sold for $8000 though , but i guess the reserve was at the lower end of the estimate. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by wiz on May 13, 2009 21:43:06 GMT 1,
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by griffermans on May 13, 2009 21:49:51 GMT 1,
Should have been $5000-$7000 to give it a chance. But saying that with an estimate so low it wouldn't have made it into this sale!
Should have been $5000-$7000 to give it a chance. But saying that with an estimate so low it wouldn't have made it into this sale! |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by wiz on May 13, 2009 21:52:16 GMT 1, I would not think that Sothebys would have over valued this work knowing that they would still get 1% of the reserve should it not sell.Course, i could be wrong
I would not think that Sothebys would have over valued this work knowing that they would still get 1% of the reserve should it not sell.Course, i could be wrong |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by snausages on May 13, 2009 22:26:04 GMT 1, Wow, strong results at Sothebys overall.
I checked out Sale Ends while it was on preview, in person I was actually surprised by how shoddy it looked. The primer/gesso on the canvas was really sloppy. And the red that filled in the block was all mottled in texture, not the solid block of red I was expecting. But a great result for B man.
I'm surprised about the JR, I think his work is nice but this photo was packaged up very slick in a frame and seemed really removed from the idea and aesthetic of the art in the photograph.
Wow, strong results at Sothebys overall.
I checked out Sale Ends while it was on preview, in person I was actually surprised by how shoddy it looked. The primer/gesso on the canvas was really sloppy. And the red that filled in the block was all mottled in texture, not the solid block of red I was expecting. But a great result for B man.
I'm surprised about the JR, I think his work is nice but this photo was packaged up very slick in a frame and seemed really removed from the idea and aesthetic of the art in the photograph.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by snausages on May 13, 2009 22:31:56 GMT 1, Blow Me
Wow, I missed the boat on this guy. Paintings from this series went from about 50 - 100 - 300k + in about a year.
www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159535276
I think recent auction results goes to show that the rich stay rich and the poor get poorer. The people that have this kind of money to spend are still treating themselves very much. I think the low end of the markets is going to take the longest to recover. 5k is a lot bigger deal to an average joe than 500k is for the wealthy.
Blow Me Wow, I missed the boat on this guy. Paintings from this series went from about 50 - 100 - 300k + in about a year. www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159535276I think recent auction results goes to show that the rich stay rich and the poor get poorer. The people that have this kind of money to spend are still treating themselves very much. I think the low end of the markets is going to take the longest to recover. 5k is a lot bigger deal to an average joe than 500k is for the wealthy. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by Winter on May 13, 2009 22:39:29 GMT 1, Much as I like today's JR piece the majority of his work is B&W which is more his signature style. It think that is probably why the Mafia print is still available at Laz.
Much as I like today's JR piece the majority of his work is B&W which is more his signature style. It think that is probably why the Mafia print is still available at Laz.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by etched on May 13, 2009 22:42:57 GMT 1, that blow me is uninspiring -
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by snausages on May 13, 2009 22:57:56 GMT 1, that blow me is uninspiring -
Takes all kinds of opinons. But the guy is big time now. I doubted it a year ago but that's an unquestionable result. I felt similarly too about this series until I saw it in person, really well executed, and an interesting part of his oeuvre considering a lot of it is (purposefully) sloppy and dirty looking.
that blow me is uninspiring - Takes all kinds of opinons. But the guy is big time now. I doubted it a year ago but that's an unquestionable result. I felt similarly too about this series until I saw it in person, really well executed, and an interesting part of his oeuvre considering a lot of it is (purposefully) sloppy and dirty looking. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by snausages on May 13, 2009 23:03:19 GMT 1, Wow, strong results at Sothebys overall. I checked out Sale Ends while it was on preview, in person I was actually surprised by how shoddy it looked. The primer/gesso on the canvas was really sloppy. And the red that filled in the block was all mottled in texture, not the solid block of red I was expecting.... there is always the poss that the piece was guaranteed and rather than Sotherbys pass it - buy it in ... just a thought. A good price on the JR I think and a genuine strong price on the shep. Sold originally for approx 30k (ยฃ) originally and now someone has paid almost double. It was a large striking canvas mind you.
But with an estimate of only 150k? I doubt it was a guarantee in this climate, maybe. But that shep, originally ยฃ30k, that was probably $60k in usd at the time it was sold. Which is about how much the seller probably takes home. But if you got millions I guess 80k is a fair gamble to pick it up and hold it for 10-20 yrs and cross your fingers. Piece means nothing to me but it is slick and fine execution.
Funny thing is I overheard the Sothebys Sales associates stressing out about getting their clients to shell out for this auction. No more worries about layoffs for now I guess.
Wow, strong results at Sothebys overall. I checked out Sale Ends while it was on preview, in person I was actually surprised by how shoddy it looked. The primer/gesso on the canvas was really sloppy. And the red that filled in the block was all mottled in texture, not the solid block of red I was expecting.... there is always the poss that the piece was guaranteed and rather than Sotherbys pass it - buy it in ... just a thought. A good price on the JR I think and a genuine strong price on the shep. Sold originally for approx 30k (ยฃ) originally and now someone has paid almost double. It was a large striking canvas mind you. But with an estimate of only 150k? I doubt it was a guarantee in this climate, maybe. But that shep, originally ยฃ30k, that was probably $60k in usd at the time it was sold. Which is about how much the seller probably takes home. But if you got millions I guess 80k is a fair gamble to pick it up and hold it for 10-20 yrs and cross your fingers. Piece means nothing to me but it is slick and fine execution. Funny thing is I overheard the Sothebys Sales associates stressing out about getting their clients to shell out for this auction. No more worries about layoffs for now I guess. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by etched on May 13, 2009 23:15:21 GMT 1, that blow me is uninspiring - Takes all kinds of opinons. But the guy is big time now. I doubted it a year ago but that's an unquestionable result. I felt similarly too about this series until I saw it in person, really well executed, and an interesting part of his oeuvre considering a lot of it is (purposefully) sloppy and dirty looking.
interesting - i actually have not seen it in person-
that blow me is uninspiring - Takes all kinds of opinons. But the guy is big time now. I doubted it a year ago but that's an unquestionable result. I felt similarly too about this series until I saw it in person, really well executed, and an interesting part of his oeuvre considering a lot of it is (purposefully) sloppy and dirty looking. interesting - i actually have not seen it in person- |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by lee3 on May 13, 2009 23:21:04 GMT 1, I doubt very highly there was any guarantee on anything below $2 million dollars at either Christie's or Sotheby's this go around. The Colen candle is a comparatively small ticket item stuck in the evening sale which is usually a favor to someone. Imho, it is foolish to not have a fair dose of skepticism with regard to that price which is not to suggest that his pricing will not continue to escalate. However, there is a method to the madness in NY.
Looking forward to the main event for May which kicks off in about an hour.
I doubt very highly there was any guarantee on anything below $2 million dollars at either Christie's or Sotheby's this go around. The Colen candle is a comparatively small ticket item stuck in the evening sale which is usually a favor to someone. Imho, it is foolish to not have a fair dose of skepticism with regard to that price which is not to suggest that his pricing will not continue to escalate. However, there is a method to the madness in NY.
Looking forward to the main event for May which kicks off in about an hour.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by snausages on May 13, 2009 23:39:36 GMT 1, The Colen candle is a comparatively small ticket item stuck in the evening sale which is usually a favor to someone. Imho, it is foolish to not have a fair dose of skepticism with regard to that price which is not to suggest that his pricing will not continue to escalate. However, there is a method to the madness in NY.
The Colen candle is a comparatively small ticket item stuck in the evening sale which is usually a favor to someone. Imho, it is foolish to not have a fair dose of skepticism with regard to that price which is not to suggest that his pricing will not continue to escalate. However, there is a method to the madness in NY. I'm always skeptical, but small ticket item? If you're collecting Pollock and Basquiat maybe but that is a seriously high price for people who collect young contemporary. I can't believe it was simply schlepped in as a favor and went for 2 or 3x estimates on luck. But certainly being in Sothebys helps, a very similar painting went for half that at PDP couple months back. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by Daniel Silk on May 13, 2009 23:41:12 GMT 1,
Great result! 
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on May 13, 2009 23:45:21 GMT 1, Blow Me Wow, I missed the boat on this guy. Paintings from this series went from about 50 - 100 - 300k + in about a year. www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159535276I think recent auction results goes to show that the rich stay rich and the poor get poorer. The people that have this kind of money to spend are still treating themselves very much. I think the low end of the markets is going to take the longest to recover. 5k is a lot bigger deal to an average joe than 500k is for the wealthy.
more here
www.studioreport.com/pages/DanColen.html
Blow Me Wow, I missed the boat on this guy. Paintings from this series went from about 50 - 100 - 300k + in about a year. www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159535276I think recent auction results goes to show that the rich stay rich and the poor get poorer. The people that have this kind of money to spend are still treating themselves very much. I think the low end of the markets is going to take the longest to recover. 5k is a lot bigger deal to an average joe than 500k is for the wealthy. more here www.studioreport.com/pages/DanColen.html |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by lee3 on May 14, 2009 0:01:15 GMT 1, >>>>I'm always skeptical, but small ticket item? If you're collecting Pollock and Basquiat maybe but that is a seriously high price for people who collect young contemporary.<<<<
The evening sales are dominated by those that are collecting Pollock and Basquiat, not young contemporary.
>>>I can't believe it was simply schlepped in as a favor and went for 2 or 3x estimates on luck. <<<<
Nor am I suggesting that either. However, as 30 something year old artist with his first painting in an evening sale, it is foolish imho to ignore the possibility that there is one or more people with a vested interest to make certain it's a success is my point. Whether you are old or young, $300k is on the cheaper side of the average price in a Sotheby's or Christie's evening May sale and there are plenty of dealers the world over the prop up multi million dollar artists. That was all I meant by having a healthy dose of skepticism with regard to that particular sale price. My comment had nothing to do with the merit of the art itself.
>>>>I'm always skeptical, but small ticket item? If you're collecting Pollock and Basquiat maybe but that is a seriously high price for people who collect young contemporary.<<<<
The evening sales are dominated by those that are collecting Pollock and Basquiat, not young contemporary.
>>>I can't believe it was simply schlepped in as a favor and went for 2 or 3x estimates on luck. <<<<
Nor am I suggesting that either. However, as 30 something year old artist with his first painting in an evening sale, it is foolish imho to ignore the possibility that there is one or more people with a vested interest to make certain it's a success is my point. Whether you are old or young, $300k is on the cheaper side of the average price in a Sotheby's or Christie's evening May sale and there are plenty of dealers the world over the prop up multi million dollar artists. That was all I meant by having a healthy dose of skepticism with regard to that particular sale price. My comment had nothing to do with the merit of the art itself.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by etched on May 14, 2009 0:01:42 GMT 1, good click topboy-
good click topboy-
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by jamesreeve5 on May 14, 2009 0:03:15 GMT 1, I tried hooking people up with Dan Colen Birdshit paintings for really cheap back about 9 months ago... oh well
Now I can hook up anyone who's interested in some Joe Bradley works... pm me if interested
I tried hooking people up with Dan Colen Birdshit paintings for really cheap back about 9 months ago... oh well
Now I can hook up anyone who's interested in some Joe Bradley works... pm me if interested
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by jamesreeve5 on May 14, 2009 0:06:57 GMT 1, Snausages, lee3...
Gagosian likely wanted it in there since he has a show coming up with Colen.
Snausages, lee3...
Gagosian likely wanted it in there since he has a show coming up with Colen.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by snausages on May 14, 2009 0:14:23 GMT 1, Snausages, lee3... Gagosian likely wanted it in there since he has a show coming up with Colen.
And I do hope you kept at least one of the birdshit paintings for yourself J.
Snausages, lee3... Gagosian likely wanted it in there since he has a show coming up with Colen. Oh right, done as a favor for Gagosian I can believe. And I do hope you kept at least one of the birdshit paintings for yourself J. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by etched on May 14, 2009 0:19:41 GMT 1, like the birdshit paintings - would appease my greasy bedsit somewhat nicely-
like the birdshit paintings - would appease my greasy bedsit somewhat nicely-
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by Sacked... on May 14, 2009 0:25:00 GMT 1, I knew things were picking up! i could feel it in the air yesterday as i was spraying my Mahonias.
Surely , you'd use cream for that wiz !
I knew things were picking up! i could feel it in the air yesterday as i was spraying my Mahonias. Surely , you'd use cream for that wiz ! |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by wiz on May 14, 2009 0:39:15 GMT 1, I knew things were picking up! i could feel it in the air yesterday as i was spraying my Mahonias. Surely , you'd use cream for that wiz !
LOL  , will try that Sacked!.
I knew things were picking up! i could feel it in the air yesterday as i was spraying my Mahonias. Surely , you'd use cream for that wiz ! LOL , will try that Sacked!. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by dynamixx on May 14, 2009 6:16:50 GMT 1, Excellent result on the Sale Ends, goes to show very strong images can be capable of outshining even the strongest storms, and desireability undoubtedly increased by lack of UK print edition, not to mention very timely or even prophetic image in the current climate.
Not a bad showing for JR too, remembering this time just two years ago no major auction house would have given him the time of day.
As for the NW bird covered in pink poo not selling, no suprises really.
Excellent result on the Sale Ends, goes to show very strong images can be capable of outshining even the strongest storms, and desireability undoubtedly increased by lack of UK print edition, not to mention very timely or even prophetic image in the current climate.
Not a bad showing for JR too, remembering this time just two years ago no major auction house would have given him the time of day.
As for the NW bird covered in pink poo not selling, no suprises really.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by Argiebaji on May 14, 2009 7:03:32 GMT 1, Excellent result on the Sale Ends, goes to show very strong images can be capable of outshining even the strongest storms, and desireability undoubtedly increased by lack of UK print edition, not to mention very timely or even prophetic image in the current climate. Not a bad showing for JR too, remembering this time just two years ago no major auction house would have given him the time of day. As for the NW bird covered in pink poo not selling, no suprises really.
Positive signs for sure,,,,,I love that JR piece and if I had that kind of money....why not...Beautiful to look at plus it's sure to rise in value too.....Lets face it I feel the best is still to come from this French talent..
Excellent result on the Sale Ends, goes to show very strong images can be capable of outshining even the strongest storms, and desireability undoubtedly increased by lack of UK print edition, not to mention very timely or even prophetic image in the current climate. Not a bad showing for JR too, remembering this time just two years ago no major auction house would have given him the time of day. As for the NW bird covered in pink poo not selling, no suprises really. Positive signs for sure,,,,,I love that JR piece and if I had that kind of money....why not...Beautiful to look at plus it's sure to rise in value too.....Lets face it I feel the best is still to come from this French talent.. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by griffermans on May 14, 2009 7:08:42 GMT 1, Excellent result on the Sale Ends, goes to show very strong images can be capable of outshining even the strongest storms, and desireability undoubtedly increased by lack of UK print edition, not to mention very timely or even prophetic image in the current climate. Not a bad showing for JR too, remembering this time just two years ago no major auction house would have given him the time of day. As for the NW bird covered in pink poo not selling, no suprises really. Positive signs for sure,,,,,I love that JR piece and if I had that kind of money....why not...Beautiful to look at plus it's sure to rise in value too.....Lets face it I feel the best is still to come from this French talent..
Get to work!
Excellent result on the Sale Ends, goes to show very strong images can be capable of outshining even the strongest storms, and desireability undoubtedly increased by lack of UK print edition, not to mention very timely or even prophetic image in the current climate. Not a bad showing for JR too, remembering this time just two years ago no major auction house would have given him the time of day. As for the NW bird covered in pink poo not selling, no suprises really. Positive signs for sure,,,,,I love that JR piece and if I had that kind of money....why not...Beautiful to look at plus it's sure to rise in value too.....Lets face it I feel the best is still to come from this French talent.. Get to work! |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on May 14, 2009 9:46:49 GMT 1, Blow Me Wow, I missed the boat on this guy. Paintings from this series went from about 50 - 100 - 300k + in about a year. www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159535276I think recent auction results goes to show that the rich stay rich and the poor get poorer. The people that have this kind of money to spend are still treating themselves very much. I think the low end of the markets is going to take the longest to recover. 5k is a lot bigger deal to an average joe than 500k is for the wealthy.
wow that's like a poster you'd buy in a ยฃ1 shop - money obviously doesn't equal any form of taste
Blow Me Wow, I missed the boat on this guy. Paintings from this series went from about 50 - 100 - 300k + in about a year. www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159535276I think recent auction results goes to show that the rich stay rich and the poor get poorer. The people that have this kind of money to spend are still treating themselves very much. I think the low end of the markets is going to take the longest to recover. 5k is a lot bigger deal to an average joe than 500k is for the wealthy. wow that's like a poster you'd buy in a ยฃ1 shop - money obviously doesn't equal any form of taste |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by wiz on May 14, 2009 10:04:06 GMT 1, What exactly is a Pound Shop? i assume its where evreything costs ยฃ1?, though i have never seen one i have often heard of them.
What exactly is a Pound Shop? i assume its where evreything costs ยฃ1?, though i have never seen one i have often heard of them.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข NEW YORK ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on May 14, 2009 10:08:36 GMT 1, awwww Wiz, the Queen will have to let you out of the grounds a bit more often so you can slum it with the rest of us 
awwww Wiz, the Queen will have to let you out of the grounds a bit more often so you can slum it with the rest of us |
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, will try that Sacked!.
