anthoz
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by anthoz on Mar 7, 2008 23:45:12 GMT 1, ok call me a conspricay theorist but Laz is still the named owner of banksy.co.uk domain name but it is hosted on the same servers as the new pestcontroloffice.com website is this just me thinking too much??
ok call me a conspricay theorist but Laz is still the named owner of banksy.co.uk domain name but it is hosted on the same servers as the new pestcontroloffice.com website is this just me thinking too much??
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by stender on Mar 8, 2008 0:22:58 GMT 1, Perhaps you were expecting to see Admin Name........... Robert Banks Admin Address........ 12 the high street Admin Address........ shoreditch Admin Address........ London Admin Address........ UNITED KINGDOM Admin Email.......... Robert.banks@banksy.co.uk Admin Phone.......... +44.2087365662 Admin Fax............ ;D
Perhaps you were expecting to see Admin Name........... Robert Banks Admin Address........ 12 the high street Admin Address........ shoreditch Admin Address........ London Admin Address........ UNITED KINGDOM Admin Email.......... Robert.banks@banksy.co.uk Admin Phone.......... +44.2087365662 Admin Fax............ ;D
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by onemandown72 on Mar 8, 2008 0:42:02 GMT 1, Is it just me, or is it not a little OTT actually going to such extreme measures as publishing domain ownership etc on the forum. Personally I cannot see the need or relevance of doing this and aside from looking like a teenager stalker what possible good can come out of this?
Is it just me, or is it not a little OTT actually going to such extreme measures as publishing domain ownership etc on the forum. Personally I cannot see the need or relevance of doing this and aside from looking like a teenager stalker what possible good can come out of this?
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by alsbabar on Mar 8, 2008 13:33:55 GMT 1, Silky please lock this post, if possible delete it
Silky please lock this post, if possible delete it
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by dave313perry on Mar 8, 2008 13:41:09 GMT 1, Silky please lock this post, if possible delete it
shouldnt have much trouble there - hes a dab hand
Silky please lock this post, if possible delete it shouldnt have much trouble there - hes a dab hand
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by alsbabar on Mar 8, 2008 13:43:33 GMT 1, i dont see the point in publishing contact details.......... i wonder how many people have rung it so far!!!
i dont see the point in publishing contact details.......... i wonder how many people have rung it so far!!!
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by paulypaul on Mar 8, 2008 14:34:18 GMT 1, Silky please lock this post, if possible delete it shouldnt have much trouble there - hes a dab hand
Dave - you cynic....
Silky please lock this post, if possible delete it shouldnt have much trouble there - hes a dab hand Dave - you cynic....
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Macdeee
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by Macdeee on Apr 11, 2008 9:53:03 GMT 1, Cool. Street pieces too.
Cool. Street pieces too.
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danvnuk
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by danvnuk on Apr 11, 2008 10:00:36 GMT 1, interesting. No mention of charges.
The other thing that immediately springs to mind is - until someone like Laz says this site is officialy their site - I'd refrain entering any details - it occurs to me that its pefect for a fraudster to phish legitimate artwork details - or even a burglar to find out addresses of who's got artwork worth stealing! LOL
Which also makes me think - shouldn't the form be securely encrypted in some way - like online credit card details are, considering your entering all your provenance details - edition number and even your address.
interesting. No mention of charges.
The other thing that immediately springs to mind is - until someone like Laz says this site is officialy their site - I'd refrain entering any details - it occurs to me that its pefect for a fraudster to phish legitimate artwork details - or even a burglar to find out addresses of who's got artwork worth stealing! LOL
Which also makes me think - shouldn't the form be securely encrypted in some way - like online credit card details are, considering your entering all your provenance details - edition number and even your address.
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Big Bones
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by Big Bones on Apr 11, 2008 10:56:25 GMT 1, I just get a Claranet splash screen when using www.pestcontroloffice.com/
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seidbereit
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by seidbereit on Apr 11, 2008 10:58:49 GMT 1, I get a picture of a mouse with a broom. Strange they didnt use a rat, really.
I get a picture of a mouse with a broom. Strange they didnt use a rat, really.
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funster
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by funster on Apr 11, 2008 11:06:08 GMT 1, interesting. No mention of charges. The other thing that immediately springs to mind is - until someone like Laz says this site is officialy their site - I'd refrain entering any details - it occurs to me that its pefect for a fraudster to phish legitimate artwork details - or even a burglar to find out addresses of who's got artwork worth stealing! LOL Which also makes me think - shouldn't the form be securely encrypted in some way - like online credit card details are, considering your entering all your provenance details - edition number and even your address.
This is from the Laz Inc website:
Q. Can you tell me if my Banksy work of art is authentic?
A. All Banksy authentications are now being handled by Pest Control. Please email all future enquiries to info@pestcontroloffice.com.
To the best of my knowledge you can't have an email address (info@) if you don't have the domain name too.
I agree with the encryption part though for the form
interesting. No mention of charges. The other thing that immediately springs to mind is - until someone like Laz says this site is officialy their site - I'd refrain entering any details - it occurs to me that its pefect for a fraudster to phish legitimate artwork details - or even a burglar to find out addresses of who's got artwork worth stealing! LOL Which also makes me think - shouldn't the form be securely encrypted in some way - like online credit card details are, considering your entering all your provenance details - edition number and even your address. This is from the Laz Inc website: Q. Can you tell me if my Banksy work of art is authentic? A. All Banksy authentications are now being handled by Pest Control. Please email all future enquiries to info@pestcontroloffice.com. To the best of my knowledge you can't have an email address (info@) if you don't have the domain name too. I agree with the encryption part though for the form
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by icky on Apr 11, 2008 11:30:04 GMT 1, And now we know for sure that Banksy made the mouse with broom in (was it?) New York,
And now we know for sure that Banksy made the mouse with broom in (was it?) New York,
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cpo
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by cpo on Apr 11, 2008 14:08:36 GMT 1, I'm going to try it with an unsigned that I bought second hand and see what happens.. I'll do the colored trolleys afterwards if it goes okay...
I'm going to try it with an unsigned that I bought second hand and see what happens.. I'll do the colored trolleys afterwards if it goes okay...
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by doublehelix on Apr 11, 2008 14:11:01 GMT 1, Aren't pest control only dealing with original works, not prints?
Aren't pest control only dealing with original works, not prints?
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anthoz
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by anthoz on Apr 11, 2008 14:15:10 GMT 1, on the form on the pest control website there is an option to choose if the piece is a print or an original street piece or canvas nuff said!
on the form on the pest control website there is an option to choose if the piece is a print or an original street piece or canvas nuff said!
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andrewd
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by andrewd on Apr 11, 2008 14:16:00 GMT 1, says prints on the site
says prints on the site
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by doublehelix on Apr 11, 2008 14:18:11 GMT 1, So does that mean POW have turned over their sales database to pest control then? Will we no longer be able to check prov with POW?
So does that mean POW have turned over their sales database to pest control then? Will we no longer be able to check prov with POW?
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funyoung
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by funyoung on Apr 11, 2008 14:20:02 GMT 1, seems to me that they are inviting an awful lot of extra work with no explanations etc. about prints / street pieces. does Banksy really remember every traffic cone he sprayed a rat on?
There have been loads of dubious street pieces on ebay recently - If you bought one ( I have none) would you get it checked by pestcontrol? It might be real but it might be rendered worthless on the resale market if proven a forgery.
seems to me that they are inviting an awful lot of extra work with no explanations etc. about prints / street pieces. does Banksy really remember every traffic cone he sprayed a rat on?
There have been loads of dubious street pieces on ebay recently - If you bought one ( I have none) would you get it checked by pestcontrol? It might be real but it might be rendered worthless on the resale market if proven a forgery.
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savilerogue
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by savilerogue on Apr 11, 2008 14:44:12 GMT 1, seems to me that they are inviting an awful lot of extra work with no explanations etc. about prints / street pieces. does Banksy really remember every traffic cone he sprayed a rat on? There have been loads of dubious street pieces on ebay recently - If you bought one ( I have none) would you get it checked by pestcontrol? It might be real but it might be rendered worthless on the resale market if proven a forgery.
I really doubt that they will give any authentication on street pieces, genuine or otherwise. I don't think they will want to be seen to be encouraging people to chisel Banksy's off walls.
Proabably more likely that 'Steet Pieces' is an option so they can send a rude email back to the person in possession of it.
seems to me that they are inviting an awful lot of extra work with no explanations etc. about prints / street pieces. does Banksy really remember every traffic cone he sprayed a rat on? There have been loads of dubious street pieces on ebay recently - If you bought one ( I have none) would you get it checked by pestcontrol? It might be real but it might be rendered worthless on the resale market if proven a forgery. I really doubt that they will give any authentication on street pieces, genuine or otherwise. I don't think they will want to be seen to be encouraging people to chisel Banksy's off walls. Proabably more likely that 'Steet Pieces' is an option so they can send a rude email back to the person in possession of it.
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by doublehelix on Apr 11, 2008 15:26:45 GMT 1, This brings to mind the great BBC doc About the Warhol foundation and their refusal to authenticate a guys Warhol piece, it's worth a watch, in 7 parts on youtube starting with this one:
Other 6 parts are here: www.youtube.com/user/andywarholtoday
This brings to mind the great BBC doc About the Warhol foundation and their refusal to authenticate a guys Warhol piece, it's worth a watch, in 7 parts on youtube starting with this one: Other 6 parts are here: www.youtube.com/user/andywarholtoday
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mrmustard
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mrmustard on Apr 11, 2008 18:35:44 GMT 1, Everyone I know that has sent a street piece for authentification with PestControl has had the same response: "We cannot be sure whether the pieces you've shown us were done by the artist Banksy or not, however as a policy anything that was created without the intention to sell does not receive a Letter of Authentication."
So I am not sure why they have added that section?!
Everyone I know that has sent a street piece for authentification with PestControl has had the same response: "We cannot be sure whether the pieces you've shown us were done by the artist Banksy or not, however as a policy anything that was created without the intention to sell does not receive a Letter of Authentication."
So I am not sure why they have added that section?!
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Fragile
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by Fragile on Apr 11, 2008 19:21:23 GMT 1, Dora told me this afternoon that prints will still be verified by POW. She also said that they will be introducing a charge for this service. Fair enough really.
Dora told me this afternoon that prints will still be verified by POW. She also said that they will be introducing a charge for this service. Fair enough really.
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savilerogue
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by savilerogue on Apr 11, 2008 19:32:16 GMT 1, Everyone I know that has sent a street piece for authentification with PestControl has had the same response: "We cannot be sure whether the pieces you've shown us were done by the artist Banksy or not, however as a policy anything that was created without the intention to sell does not receive a Letter of Authentication." So I am not sure why they have added that section?!
Well then given the uniform responses to enquires re: authentication of street pieces, it's clear why they added that section - to weed out requests for authentication of street pieces and give them short shrift!
Everyone I know that has sent a street piece for authentification with PestControl has had the same response: "We cannot be sure whether the pieces you've shown us were done by the artist Banksy or not, however as a policy anything that was created without the intention to sell does not receive a Letter of Authentication." So I am not sure why they have added that section?! Well then given the uniform responses to enquires re: authentication of street pieces, it's clear why they added that section - to weed out requests for authentication of street pieces and give them short shrift!
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by doublehelix on Apr 11, 2008 19:50:54 GMT 1, however as a policy anything that was created without the intention to sell does not receive a Letter of Authentication."
That's a great policy, thumbs up!
however as a policy anything that was created without the intention to sell does not receive a Letter of Authentication." That's a great policy, thumbs up!
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mrmustard
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mrmustard on Apr 11, 2008 19:51:56 GMT 1, Everyone I know that has sent a street piece for authentification with PestControl has had the same response: "We cannot be sure whether the pieces you've shown us were done by the artist Banksy or not, however as a policy anything that was created without the intention to sell does not receive a Letter of Authentication." So I am not sure why they have added that section?! Well then given the uniform responses to enquires re: authentication of street pieces, it's clear why they added that section - to weed out requests for authentication of street pieces and give them short shrift!
I guess so, but it's not always as clean cut as that is it? For example if a building etc that had a Banksy piece on was going to be demolished would it not be better to save the piece and have authentification for it rather than lose the piece forever? If that was the case (as has happened to a friend of mine) then a standard response of 'we don't want to put a name to it' seems a bit sad to me.
I have 3 'salvaged' pieces (that would have otherwise been lost forever) that people wish to sell through my gallery at the moment but I can't do that without authenticity, and PC can't give that.
Everyone I know that has sent a street piece for authentification with PestControl has had the same response: "We cannot be sure whether the pieces you've shown us were done by the artist Banksy or not, however as a policy anything that was created without the intention to sell does not receive a Letter of Authentication." So I am not sure why they have added that section?! Well then given the uniform responses to enquires re: authentication of street pieces, it's clear why they added that section - to weed out requests for authentication of street pieces and give them short shrift! I guess so, but it's not always as clean cut as that is it? For example if a building etc that had a Banksy piece on was going to be demolished would it not be better to save the piece and have authentification for it rather than lose the piece forever? If that was the case (as has happened to a friend of mine) then a standard response of 'we don't want to put a name to it' seems a bit sad to me. I have 3 'salvaged' pieces (that would have otherwise been lost forever) that people wish to sell through my gallery at the moment but I can't do that without authenticity, and PC can't give that.
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savilerogue
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by savilerogue on Apr 11, 2008 19:54:12 GMT 1, I guess so, but it's not always as clean cut as that is it? For example if a building etc that had a Banksy piece on was going to be demolished would it not be better to save the piece and have authentification for it rather than lose the piece forever? If that was the case (as has happened to a friend of mine) then a standard response of 'we don't want to put a name to it' seems a bit sad to me.
I disagree, I still think it wouldn't be appropriate even in those circumstances. Street art by its very nature is ephemeral.
I guess so, but it's not always as clean cut as that is it? For example if a building etc that had a Banksy piece on was going to be demolished would it not be better to save the piece and have authentification for it rather than lose the piece forever? If that was the case (as has happened to a friend of mine) then a standard response of 'we don't want to put a name to it' seems a bit sad to me. I disagree, I still think it wouldn't be appropriate even in those circumstances. Street art by its very nature is ephemeral.
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mrmustard
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mrmustard on Apr 11, 2008 20:00:03 GMT 1, I guess so, but it's not always as clean cut as that is it? For example if a building etc that had a Banksy piece on was going to be demolished would it not be better to save the piece and have authentification for it rather than lose the piece forever? If that was the case (as has happened to a friend of mine) then a standard response of 'we don't want to put a name to it' seems a bit sad to me. I disagree, I still think it wouldn't be appropriate even in those circumstances. Street art by its very nature is ephemeral. I agree with you in that respect but I can see both sides and simply don't like to see art destroyed - even if it was displayed in an environment where this was always a possibility...
I guess so, but it's not always as clean cut as that is it? For example if a building etc that had a Banksy piece on was going to be demolished would it not be better to save the piece and have authentification for it rather than lose the piece forever? If that was the case (as has happened to a friend of mine) then a standard response of 'we don't want to put a name to it' seems a bit sad to me. I disagree, I still think it wouldn't be appropriate even in those circumstances. Street art by its very nature is ephemeral. I agree with you in that respect but I can see both sides and simply don't like to see art destroyed - even if it was displayed in an environment where this was always a possibility...
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Hoops
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by Hoops on Apr 11, 2008 20:32:20 GMT 1, Why not just save the peice and keep it for yourself , You didnt pay for it so the cost to you is zero............You dont have to sell it to appreciate it, and if you love it then you dont need proof.........You only need proof if you want to sell it on
Why not just save the peice and keep it for yourself , You didnt pay for it so the cost to you is zero............You dont have to sell it to appreciate it, and if you love it then you dont need proof.........You only need proof if you want to sell it on
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funyoung
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by funyoung on Apr 11, 2008 20:33:07 GMT 1, I have 3 'salvaged' pieces (that would have otherwise been lost forever) that people wish to sell through my gallery at the moment but I can't do that without authenticity, and PC can't give that.
Can i ask why you can't sell them? Would they not be sold on their artistic merits alone? Admittedly you couldn't say they were done by banksy but does that matter? Or do you have to take account of Artists Resale Tax? I think I'm probably missing something.
I have 3 'salvaged' pieces (that would have otherwise been lost forever) that people wish to sell through my gallery at the moment but I can't do that without authenticity, and PC can't give that. Can i ask why you can't sell them? Would they not be sold on their artistic merits alone? Admittedly you couldn't say they were done by banksy but does that matter? Or do you have to take account of Artists Resale Tax? I think I'm probably missing something.
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