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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by hdduyddfj on Nov 2, 2024 16:21:49 GMT 1, Sorry Mojo but you seem to be avoiding the main reason people can’t be bothered. The reason as stated by others are the unacceptable timescales. Doesn’t matter if you’re a flipper or a first time buyer from an owner who’s had it a few years, neither wants to play a waiting game on whether or not PC will be arsed to a knowledge and carry out the task you’ve paid them for, for what? 6 months? 12 months? 18 months? It’s absolutely pathetic and unacceptable. I sort of regret wading in on this now as the only dealings I've had with pest control recently was to clean up a load of pigeon shit from my balcony  and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer.
It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years.
Sorry Mojo but you seem to be avoiding the main reason people can’t be bothered. The reason as stated by others are the unacceptable timescales. Doesn’t matter if you’re a flipper or a first time buyer from an owner who’s had it a few years, neither wants to play a waiting game on whether or not PC will be arsed to a knowledge and carry out the task you’ve paid them for, for what? 6 months? 12 months? 18 months? It’s absolutely pathetic and unacceptable. I sort of regret wading in on this now as the only dealings I've had with pest control recently was to clean up a load of pigeon shit from my balcony and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer. At these levels it's very much an investment to the majority of people. It's uncomfortable and not that attractive an option for putting money when it could be an unknown timescale to be able to release your money if you have to wait for PC to reply. That's before you even try to sell it. What a headache. It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mojo on Nov 2, 2024 16:26:32 GMT 1, I sort of regret wading in on this now as the only dealings I've had with pest control recently was to clean up a load of pigeon shit from my balcony and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer. At these levels it's very much an investment to the majority of people. It's uncomfortable and not that attractive an option for putting money when it could be an unknown timescale to be able to release your money if you have to wait for PC to reply. That's before you even try to sell it. What a headache. It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years.
I really do have to go out now, have a good weekend.
I sort of regret wading in on this now as the only dealings I've had with pest control recently was to clean up a load of pigeon shit from my balcony and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer. At these levels it's very much an investment to the majority of people. It's uncomfortable and not that attractive an option for putting money when it could be an unknown timescale to be able to release your money if you have to wait for PC to reply. That's before you even try to sell it. What a headache. It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years. If you are buying with COA and have trust/rapport with the seller you just register it in your name once you have it in hand or alternatively buy/sell through a reputable auction house. I really do have to go out now, have a good weekend. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by hdduyddfj on Nov 2, 2024 16:33:10 GMT 1, At these levels it's very much an investment to the majority of people. It's uncomfortable and not that attractive an option for putting money when it could be an unknown timescale to be able to release your money if you have to wait for PC to reply. That's before you even try to sell it. What a headache. It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years. If you are buying with COA and have trust/rapport with the seller you just register it in your name once you have it in hand or go through a reputable auction house. I really do have to go out now have a good weekend.
Enjoy your weekend 👍
At these levels it's very much an investment to the majority of people. It's uncomfortable and not that attractive an option for putting money when it could be an unknown timescale to be able to release your money if you have to wait for PC to reply. That's before you even try to sell it. What a headache. It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years. If you are buying with COA and have trust/rapport with the seller you just register it in your name once you have it in hand or go through a reputable auction house. I really do have to go out now have a good weekend. I'll not keeping repeating, when someone wants to sell and the buyer wants confirmation from PC the timescale for reply is unknown. It doesn't make sense anymore. Enjoy your weekend 👍 |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by lukas01 on Nov 2, 2024 16:37:14 GMT 1, I'm always amazed when I read posts about Pest Control.
But are those 'kids' making fun of me at this point? Am I the only one who occasionally sends him emails to see if a work is original or fake?
He replies to me no later than 30 or at most 40 days.
This thing is getting weird! If you don't have originals and you want a response from them, you will get it within 40 days!... I would like to wait a few months and receive good news from them and not the other way around! 😂🤣
I'm always amazed when I read posts about Pest Control.
But are those 'kids' making fun of me at this point? Am I the only one who occasionally sends him emails to see if a work is original or fake?
He replies to me no later than 30 or at most 40 days.
This thing is getting weird! If you don't have originals and you want a response from them, you will get it within 40 days!... I would like to wait a few months and receive good news from them and not the other way around! 😂🤣
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by loui on Nov 2, 2024 18:46:21 GMT 1, I'm always amazed when I read posts about Pest Control. But are those 'kids' making fun of me at this point? Am I the only one who occasionally sends him emails to see if a work is original or fake? He replies to me no later than 30 or at most 40 days. This thing is getting weird! If you don't have originals and you want a response from them, you will get it within 40 days!... I would like to wait a few months and receive good news from them and not the other way around! 😂🤣
I’m always amazed someone like Robin G and Holly C could be friends with someone like Roger Gastman. Steve L, okay, he’s the guy who can be influenced a bit easy perhaps (and I’m glad he’s taken the road to finally say goodbye to Banksy, ) but Holly Cushing, she seems a friendly lady and Gunningham seems to have some interest in the world that’s bigger than himself, but Gastman? That just seems an ego with no care of others at all. Dismaland was Banksys ode to the UK TM said; how could you relate something like that to some egos behaviour 🙄 Let me say it this way Lukas, I don’t think egos like gastman with all their influence are going to save this world. On the contrary. They’re probably in the trump square. Very merry banksy to you too 🫡
I'm always amazed when I read posts about Pest Control. But are those 'kids' making fun of me at this point? Am I the only one who occasionally sends him emails to see if a work is original or fake? He replies to me no later than 30 or at most 40 days. This thing is getting weird! If you don't have originals and you want a response from them, you will get it within 40 days!... I would like to wait a few months and receive good news from them and not the other way around! 😂🤣 I’m always amazed someone like Robin G and Holly C could be friends with someone like Roger Gastman. Steve L, okay, he’s the guy who can be influenced a bit easy perhaps (and I’m glad he’s taken the road to finally say goodbye to Banksy, ) but Holly Cushing, she seems a friendly lady and Gunningham seems to have some interest in the world that’s bigger than himself, but Gastman? That just seems an ego with no care of others at all. Dismaland was Banksys ode to the UK TM said; how could you relate something like that to some egos behaviour 🙄 Let me say it this way Lukas, I don’t think egos like gastman with all their influence are going to save this world. On the contrary. They’re probably in the trump square. Very merry banksy to you too 🫡 |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by LJCal on Nov 2, 2024 20:39:18 GMT 1, But registering a car with the DVLA is a statutory requirement, you’re comparing apples with Copenhagen. As long as the person you buy from has a clear title the work is yours once you pay the agreed price in full, pure and simple, registering it with the artist’s studio is not necessary in any legal sense, if it were 99% of the artwork in circulation would have a problem. By most people’s standards I’ve bought and sold quite a few Banksy’s and never once has a work being in a previous owners‘ name caused a problem, I had a situation a few months back where someone made a check before you buy on a print I’d long sold and pest simply contacted me to check Id sold it on and establish the provenance trail. The only time I would consider it an advantage is if you a big collection (that you don’t trade much) and aren’t on pest’s primary list, then you may want to let them know what you hold to try and get on the nice list. That’s never going to happen for me. I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it?
As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t.
But registering a car with the DVLA is a statutory requirement, you’re comparing apples with Copenhagen. As long as the person you buy from has a clear title the work is yours once you pay the agreed price in full, pure and simple, registering it with the artist’s studio is not necessary in any legal sense, if it were 99% of the artwork in circulation would have a problem. By most people’s standards I’ve bought and sold quite a few Banksy’s and never once has a work being in a previous owners‘ name caused a problem, I had a situation a few months back where someone made a check before you buy on a print I’d long sold and pest simply contacted me to check Id sold it on and establish the provenance trail. The only time I would consider it an advantage is if you a big collection (that you don’t trade much) and aren’t on pest’s primary list, then you may want to let them know what you hold to try and get on the nice list. That’s never going to happen for me. I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it? The point is there is no risk, risk of what? With regards to auction houses that’s not true, you can take a print to Sothebys, Christie’s, Tate Ward, Forum, Phillips and Bonhams without a COA and not registered in your name and they’ll happily sell it (assuming it’s legit). Likewise you can take a print not registered in your name but with COA to pretty much every gallery and dealer and they’ll sell it for you, MyArtBroker, Hang-Up, Maddox, Lougher Contemporary, Taglialatella, me and pretty much every other person I know. £45 may not be much for one print, but if I spend money I like to know that it serves a purpose, and I’m not just pissing it down the drain. At a point in my life I owned about 35 Banksy works with COAs at one time, I may have owned more than a hundred plus over my lifetime as a collector. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m not now it’s worth having spent thousands of pounds and dealing with endless admin for something that for the last 6 years adds no value and isn’t necessary. As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by KaL976 on Nov 3, 2024 11:31:21 GMT 1, I've been waiting for over two years now after they requested more pictures for works Dora had already confirmed were genuine before PC existed.
I've been waiting for over two years now after they requested more pictures for works Dora had already confirmed were genuine before PC existed.
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mojo on Nov 3, 2024 22:42:44 GMT 1, I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it? The point is there is no risk, risk of what? With regards to auction houses that’s not true, you can take a print to Sothebys, Christie’s, Tate Ward, Forum, Phillips and Bonhams without a COA and not registered in your name and they’ll happily sell it (assuming it’s legit). Likewise you can take a print not registered in your name but with COA to pretty much every gallery and dealer and they’ll sell it for you, MyArtBroker, Hang-Up, Maddox, Lougher Contemporary, Taglialatella, me and pretty much every other person I know. £45 may not be much for one print, but if I spend money I like to know that it serves a purpose, and I’m not just pissing it down the drain. At a point in my life I owned about 35 Banksy works with COAs at one time, I may have owned more than a hundred plus over my lifetime as a collector. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m not now it’s worth having spent thousands of pounds and dealing with endless admin for something that for the last 6 years adds no value and isn’t necessary. As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t.
There is really no point in starting an argument with me about it...ughmarco can either take my advice or not it makes no difference to me.
Peace & out.
I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it? The point is there is no risk, risk of what? With regards to auction houses that’s not true, you can take a print to Sothebys, Christie’s, Tate Ward, Forum, Phillips and Bonhams without a COA and not registered in your name and they’ll happily sell it (assuming it’s legit). Likewise you can take a print not registered in your name but with COA to pretty much every gallery and dealer and they’ll sell it for you, MyArtBroker, Hang-Up, Maddox, Lougher Contemporary, Taglialatella, me and pretty much every other person I know. £45 may not be much for one print, but if I spend money I like to know that it serves a purpose, and I’m not just pissing it down the drain. At a point in my life I owned about 35 Banksy works with COAs at one time, I may have owned more than a hundred plus over my lifetime as a collector. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m not now it’s worth having spent thousands of pounds and dealing with endless admin for something that for the last 6 years adds no value and isn’t necessary. As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t. Thing is I was only replying to a post by ughmarco asking for advice on if they should register a print they have already purchased with a COA. I didn't mention anything about a check before you buy service in my initial reply and neither did they. I find it confusing that you would advise them not to bother registering it while also complaining that PC take too long to check provenance since registering it along with the COA is proof of provenance. Just for clarity, as I have a feeling a few people on here think I work for Pest Control, I don't and never have. It was just what I considered friendly useful advice to a person asking...no more no less. There is really no point in starting an argument with me about it...ughmarco can either take my advice or not it makes no difference to me. Peace & out. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by LJCal on Nov 3, 2024 22:47:56 GMT 1, The point is there is no risk, risk of what? With regards to auction houses that’s not true, you can take a print to Sothebys, Christie’s, Tate Ward, Forum, Phillips and Bonhams without a COA and not registered in your name and they’ll happily sell it (assuming it’s legit). Likewise you can take a print not registered in your name but with COA to pretty much every gallery and dealer and they’ll sell it for you, MyArtBroker, Hang-Up, Maddox, Lougher Contemporary, Taglialatella, me and pretty much every other person I know. £45 may not be much for one print, but if I spend money I like to know that it serves a purpose, and I’m not just pissing it down the drain. At a point in my life I owned about 35 Banksy works with COAs at one time, I may have owned more than a hundred plus over my lifetime as a collector. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m not now it’s worth having spent thousands of pounds and dealing with endless admin for something that for the last 6 years adds no value and isn’t necessary. As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t. Thing is I was only replying to a post by ughmarco asking for advice on if they should register a print they have already purchased with a COA. I didn't mention anything about a check before you buy service in my initial reply and neither did they. I find it confusing that you would advise them not to bother registering it while also complaining that PC take too long to check provenance since registering it along with the COA is proof of provenance. Just for clarity, as I have a feeling a few people on here think I work for Pest Control, I don't and never have. It was just what I considered friendly useful advice to a person asking...no more no less. There is really no point in starting an argument with me about it...ughmarco can either take my advice or not it makes no difference to me. Peace & out.
The point is there is no risk, risk of what? With regards to auction houses that’s not true, you can take a print to Sothebys, Christie’s, Tate Ward, Forum, Phillips and Bonhams without a COA and not registered in your name and they’ll happily sell it (assuming it’s legit). Likewise you can take a print not registered in your name but with COA to pretty much every gallery and dealer and they’ll sell it for you, MyArtBroker, Hang-Up, Maddox, Lougher Contemporary, Taglialatella, me and pretty much every other person I know. £45 may not be much for one print, but if I spend money I like to know that it serves a purpose, and I’m not just pissing it down the drain. At a point in my life I owned about 35 Banksy works with COAs at one time, I may have owned more than a hundred plus over my lifetime as a collector. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m not now it’s worth having spent thousands of pounds and dealing with endless admin for something that for the last 6 years adds no value and isn’t necessary. As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t. Thing is I was only replying to a post by ughmarco asking for advice on if they should register a print they have already purchased with a COA. I didn't mention anything about a check before you buy service in my initial reply and neither did they. I find it confusing that you would advise them not to bother registering it while also complaining that PC take too long to check provenance since registering it along with the COA is proof of provenance. Just for clarity, as I have a feeling a few people on here think I work for Pest Control, I don't and never have. It was just what I considered friendly useful advice to a person asking...no more no less. There is really no point in starting an argument with me about it...ughmarco can either take my advice or not it makes no difference to me. Peace & out. Likewise, but the thing with advice it’s good to hear both sides of the argument. It’s up to each individual which they find more convincing or suited to their particular situation. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by ughmarco on Nov 4, 2024 1:04:42 GMT 1, Thx guys! Every comment is appreciated
I was mostly looking for an explanation wether on the long run it would affect me having it under my name or not if I have provenance and pc coa!
With that said it looks beautiful on my wall and will for sure cherish for long time!!
Thx guys! Every comment is appreciated
I was mostly looking for an explanation wether on the long run it would affect me having it under my name or not if I have provenance and pc coa!
With that said it looks beautiful on my wall and will for sure cherish for long time!!
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by PC Baby on Nov 4, 2024 9:54:17 GMT 1, Do you think any intervention from Banksy would seriously sway the Iranian regime to change their policies on dress code for and treatment of women? I don't suppose they even thank their mothers for being born!
Do you think any intervention from Banksy would seriously sway the Iranian regime to change their policies on dress code for and treatment of women? I don't suppose they even thank their mothers for being born! |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by loui on Nov 4, 2024 11:48:17 GMT 1, Do you think any intervention from Banksy would seriously sway the Iranian regime to change their policies on dress code for and treatment of women? I don't suppose they even thank their mothers for being born!
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Banksy has 12 million followers in Instagram so he might as well take some responsibility to create more awareness. I mean, you don’t think he wants all this followers for selling his rather stupid simplistic works at already rich auction houses or do you?
Do you think any intervention from Banksy would seriously sway the Iranian regime to change their policies on dress code for and treatment of women? I don't suppose they even thank their mothers for being born! @pcbaby Banksy has 12 million followers in Instagram so he might as well take some responsibility to create more awareness. I mean, you don’t think he wants all this followers for selling his rather stupid simplistic works at already rich auction houses or do you? |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by PC Baby on Nov 4, 2024 12:50:13 GMT 1, loui it matters not what I think. 😄
If Banksy wants to create awareness for anything at all, I'm sure he will do so in his own unique way, which invariably garners maximum attention worldwide (not just from his 12 million followers) - and he doesn't need a COA!
loui it matters not what I think. 😄 If Banksy wants to create awareness for anything at all, I'm sure he will do so in his own unique way, which invariably garners maximum attention worldwide (not just from his 12 million followers) - and he doesn't need a COA!
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by loui on Nov 5, 2024 6:42:12 GMT 1, loui it matters not what I think. 😄 If Banksy wants to create awareness for anything at all, I'm sure he will do so in his own unique way, which invariably garners maximum attention worldwide (not just from his 12 million followers) - and he doesn't need a COA!
Well I hope one of “your” artists who paints as banksy got the message and is out there right now taking responsibility and doing some justice to this Iranian lady hero. If not: it makes clear Steve not only sold his gallery but also the name and we have a culture clash here as Francis Fukuyama predicted some years ago.
loui it matters not what I think. 😄 If Banksy wants to create awareness for anything at all, I'm sure he will do so in his own unique way, which invariably garners maximum attention worldwide (not just from his 12 million followers) - and he doesn't need a COA! Well I hope one of “your” artists who paints as banksy got the message and is out there right now taking responsibility and doing some justice to this Iranian lady hero. If not: it makes clear Steve not only sold his gallery but also the name and we have a culture clash here as Francis Fukuyama predicted some years ago. |
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and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer. 
