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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on May 8, 2020 19:35:18 GMT 1, People know what to do ,wait !
Obviously the savings to some to buy now is hard to resist
Year on year for the last 15 years all prints have only risen in value
People know what to do ,wait !
Obviously the savings to some to buy now is hard to resist
Year on year for the last 15 years all prints have only risen in value
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by eschiff on May 8, 2020 20:19:00 GMT 1, Seems like a risky gamble. And what happens if the Gallery goes out of business? The print without the Pest Control COA would be a problem.
It may be. I guess at the end of the day I'd rather have the print without the COA then the COA without the print!
Seems like a risky gamble. And what happens if the Gallery goes out of business? The print without the Pest Control COA would be a problem. It may be. I guess at the end of the day I'd rather have the print without the COA then the COA without the print! |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Pootle on May 8, 2020 20:48:12 GMT 1, Well done - I'm glad you've managed to source one at a price that works for you
Well done - I'm glad you've managed to source one at a price that works for you
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by whatisart on May 9, 2020 0:08:27 GMT 1, question: if you were to be the lucky winner of the print, went and got it framed and the framer cut out the GDP instructions (the note on the box) off the box and hung it on the BACK of the frame, would you be annoyed or grateful?
question: if you were to be the lucky winner of the print, went and got it framed and the framer cut out the GDP instructions (the note on the box) off the box and hung it on the BACK of the frame, would you be annoyed or grateful?
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by acaipride on May 9, 2020 0:25:24 GMT 1, question: if you were to be the lucky winner of the print, went and got it framed and the framer cut out the GDP instructions (the note on the box) off the box and hung it on the BACK of the frame, would you be annoyed or grateful?
i'd be annoyed, what other liberties did he take without checking in with you.
question: if you were to be the lucky winner of the print, went and got it framed and the framer cut out the GDP instructions (the note on the box) off the box and hung it on the BACK of the frame, would you be annoyed or grateful? i'd be annoyed, what other liberties did he take without checking in with you. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by acaipride on May 9, 2020 0:27:47 GMT 1, question: if you were to be the lucky winner of the print, went and got it framed and the framer cut out the GDP instructions (the note on the box) off the box and hung it on the BACK of the frame, would you be annoyed or grateful? i'd be annoyed, what other liberties did he take without checking in with you.
was this from a ny framer?
question: if you were to be the lucky winner of the print, went and got it framed and the framer cut out the GDP instructions (the note on the box) off the box and hung it on the BACK of the frame, would you be annoyed or grateful? i'd be annoyed, what other liberties did he take without checking in with you. was this from a ny framer? |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on May 9, 2020 0:35:04 GMT 1, i'd be annoyed, what other liberties did he take without checking in with you. was this from a ny framer?
It’s disposable packaging to everyone else except banksy collectors , your lucky it was not discarded , need to be clear with all your requests
In the future you may have people that would pay extra for packaging?
Annoyed with yourself but can not really raise a complaint
i'd be annoyed, what other liberties did he take without checking in with you. was this from a ny framer? It’s disposable packaging to everyone else except banksy collectors , your lucky it was not discarded , need to be clear with all your requests In the future you may have people that would pay extra for packaging? Annoyed with yourself but can not really raise a complaint |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by acaipride on May 9, 2020 0:37:45 GMT 1, was this from a ny framer? It’s disposable packaging to everyone else except banksy collectors , your lucky it was not discarded , need to be clear with all your requests In the future you may have people that would pay extra for packaging? Annoyed with yourself but can not really raise a complaint
whoah. for any seasoned craftsman/woman who handles collectibles , even the original tape on the packaging is worth keeping and leaving on said packaging. Collecting 101.
was this from a ny framer? It’s disposable packaging to everyone else except banksy collectors , your lucky it was not discarded , need to be clear with all your requests In the future you may have people that would pay extra for packaging? Annoyed with yourself but can not really raise a complaint whoah. for any seasoned craftsman/woman who handles collectibles , even the original tape on the packaging is worth keeping and leaving on said packaging. Collecting 101. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on May 9, 2020 0:45:08 GMT 1, It’s disposable packaging to everyone else except banksy collectors , your lucky it was not discarded , need to be clear with all your requests In the future you may have people that would pay extra for packaging? Annoyed with yourself but can not really raise a complaint whoah. for any seasoned craftsman/woman who handles collectibles , even the original tape on the packaging is worth keeping and leaving on said packaging. Collecting 101.
Many framers are generations old and have apprentices or younger persons that are not in the mindset of old seasoned framers or collectors hence what happened ,
It’s disposable packaging to everyone else except banksy collectors , your lucky it was not discarded , need to be clear with all your requests In the future you may have people that would pay extra for packaging? Annoyed with yourself but can not really raise a complaint whoah. for any seasoned craftsman/woman who handles collectibles , even the original tape on the packaging is worth keeping and leaving on said packaging. Collecting 101. Many framers are generations old and have apprentices or younger persons that are not in the mindset of old seasoned framers or collectors hence what happened , |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by whatisart on May 9, 2020 0:53:47 GMT 1, guys, this was from (what my research led me to believe) a VERY reputable NYC framer.
i made it pretty clear i wanted to keep the original packaging and never made mention of wanting anything removed from it and placed on the back of the frame. i have an email back and forth from them confirming i wanted them to keep the original packaging for me and they agreed to hold onto it. again, no mention from either my end or theirs of them tampering with the box at all.
this is my first Banksy piece, and my first piece of art in general, so i know not what to be frustrated with and what to let go.
that said, this set me back a pretty penny ($~1,800) so i'd expect flawless service.
guys, this was from (what my research led me to believe) a VERY reputable NYC framer.
i made it pretty clear i wanted to keep the original packaging and never made mention of wanting anything removed from it and placed on the back of the frame. i have an email back and forth from them confirming i wanted them to keep the original packaging for me and they agreed to hold onto it. again, no mention from either my end or theirs of them tampering with the box at all.
this is my first Banksy piece, and my first piece of art in general, so i know not what to be frustrated with and what to let go.
that said, this set me back a pretty penny ($~1,800) so i'd expect flawless service.
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on May 9, 2020 1:03:52 GMT 1, guys, this was from (what my research led me to believe) a VERY reputable NYC framer. i made it pretty clear i wanted to keep the original packaging and never made mention of wanting anything removed from it and placed on the back of the frame. i have an email back and forth from them confirming i wanted them to keep the original packaging for me and they agreed to hold onto it. again, no mention from either my end or theirs of them tampering with the box at all. this is my first Banksy piece, and my first piece of art in general, so i know not what to be frustrated with and what to let go. that said, this set me back a pretty penny ($~1,800) so i'd expect flawless service.
it is now different if you clearly informed them of your expectations ,
If you can provide them With information or example that the packaging would make a difference to resale Value which they would probably ask the best you can expect is a discount on the framing costs
Value is in the print and coa only the extreme ocd collectors will want the packaging
Just good intentions from the framer as he clearly viewed as a box and assumed you only wanted to keep the instructions hence he put in on the back of the frame
guys, this was from (what my research led me to believe) a VERY reputable NYC framer. i made it pretty clear i wanted to keep the original packaging and never made mention of wanting anything removed from it and placed on the back of the frame. i have an email back and forth from them confirming i wanted them to keep the original packaging for me and they agreed to hold onto it. again, no mention from either my end or theirs of them tampering with the box at all. this is my first Banksy piece, and my first piece of art in general, so i know not what to be frustrated with and what to let go. that said, this set me back a pretty penny ($~1,800) so i'd expect flawless service. it is now different if you clearly informed them of your expectations , If you can provide them With information or example that the packaging would make a difference to resale Value which they would probably ask the best you can expect is a discount on the framing costs Value is in the print and coa only the extreme ocd collectors will want the packaging Just good intentions from the framer as he clearly viewed as a box and assumed you only wanted to keep the instructions hence he put in on the back of the frame |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on May 9, 2020 1:06:53 GMT 1, guys, this was from (what my research led me to believe) a VERY reputable NYC framer. i made it pretty clear i wanted to keep the original packaging and never made mention of wanting anything removed from it and placed on the back of the frame. i have an email back and forth from them confirming i wanted them to keep the original packaging for me and they agreed to hold onto it. again, no mention from either my end or theirs of them tampering with the box at all. this is my first Banksy piece, and my first piece of art in general, so i know not what to be frustrated with and what to let go. that said, this set me back a pretty penny ($~1,800) so i'd expect flawless service.
Expensive framing
What was the options ?
guys, this was from (what my research led me to believe) a VERY reputable NYC framer. i made it pretty clear i wanted to keep the original packaging and never made mention of wanting anything removed from it and placed on the back of the frame. i have an email back and forth from them confirming i wanted them to keep the original packaging for me and they agreed to hold onto it. again, no mention from either my end or theirs of them tampering with the box at all. this is my first Banksy piece, and my first piece of art in general, so i know not what to be frustrated with and what to let go. that said, this set me back a pretty penny ($~1,800) so i'd expect flawless service. Expensive framing What was the options ? |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by whatisart on May 9, 2020 1:15:30 GMT 1, guys, this was from (what my research led me to believe) a VERY reputable NYC framer. i made it pretty clear i wanted to keep the original packaging and never made mention of wanting anything removed from it and placed on the back of the frame. i have an email back and forth from them confirming i wanted them to keep the original packaging for me and they agreed to hold onto it. again, no mention from either my end or theirs of them tampering with the box at all. this is my first Banksy piece, and my first piece of art in general, so i know not what to be frustrated with and what to let go. that said, this set me back a pretty penny ($~1,800) so i'd expect flawless service. Expensive framing What was the options ?
as far as i know they've used japanese hinges and reversible methyl cellulose or rice starch paste.
again i'm a total noob so i dk much. i just wanted to make sure it was handled by a professional.
guys, this was from (what my research led me to believe) a VERY reputable NYC framer. i made it pretty clear i wanted to keep the original packaging and never made mention of wanting anything removed from it and placed on the back of the frame. i have an email back and forth from them confirming i wanted them to keep the original packaging for me and they agreed to hold onto it. again, no mention from either my end or theirs of them tampering with the box at all. this is my first Banksy piece, and my first piece of art in general, so i know not what to be frustrated with and what to let go. that said, this set me back a pretty penny ($~1,800) so i'd expect flawless service. Expensive framing What was the options ? FRS2 frame with matching fillets, finished in satin black, float on black rag and fit with Optium Acrylic glazing and fillets as far as i know they've used japanese hinges and reversible methyl cellulose or rice starch paste. again i'm a total noob so i dk much. i just wanted to make sure it was handled by a professional. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by nik2000 on May 9, 2020 1:25:28 GMT 1, Expensive framing What was the options ? FRS2 frame with matching fillets, finished in satin black, float on black rag and fit with Optium Acrylic glazing and fillets as far as i know they've used japanese hinges and reversible methyl cellulose or rice starch paste. again i'm a total noob so i dk much. i just wanted to make sure it was handled by a professional.
at least you still have the sticker and hopefully they kept the rest of the packaging
Expensive framing What was the options ? FRS2 frame with matching fillets, finished in satin black, float on black rag and fit with Optium Acrylic glazing and fillets as far as i know they've used japanese hinges and reversible methyl cellulose or rice starch paste. again i'm a total noob so i dk much. i just wanted to make sure it was handled by a professional. even with all the bells and whistles that sounds awfully expensive for a frame at least you still have the sticker and hopefully they kept the rest of the packaging |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on May 9, 2020 1:27:24 GMT 1, Expensive framing What was the options ? FRS2 frame with matching fillets, finished in satin black, float on black rag and fit with Optium Acrylic glazing and fillets as far as i know they've used japanese hinges and reversible methyl cellulose or rice starch paste. again i'm a total noob so i dk much. i just wanted to make sure it was handled by a professional.
Nice options,still seems expensive , maybe the location ?
Expensive framing What was the options ? FRS2 frame with matching fillets, finished in satin black, float on black rag and fit with Optium Acrylic glazing and fillets as far as i know they've used japanese hinges and reversible methyl cellulose or rice starch paste. again i'm a total noob so i dk much. i just wanted to make sure it was handled by a professional. Nice options,still seems expensive , maybe the location ? |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by whatisart on May 9, 2020 1:30:51 GMT 1, FRS2 frame with matching fillets, finished in satin black, float on black rag and fit with Optium Acrylic glazing and fillets as far as i know they've used japanese hinges and reversible methyl cellulose or rice starch paste. again i'm a total noob so i dk much. i just wanted to make sure it was handled by a professional. Nice options,still seems expensive , maybe the location ?
FRS2 frame with matching fillets, finished in satin black, float on black rag and fit with Optium Acrylic glazing and fillets as far as i know they've used japanese hinges and reversible methyl cellulose or rice starch paste. again i'm a total noob so i dk much. i just wanted to make sure it was handled by a professional. Nice options,still seems expensive , maybe the location ? yea. i brought it to another framer BEFORE this one that was decidedly less professional and was quoted $1000. so certainly NOT cheap, but NYC isn't a cheap city and this framer does work for the MoMA. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on May 9, 2020 1:45:05 GMT 1, Nice options,still seems expensive , maybe the location ? yea. i brought it to another framer BEFORE this one that was decidedly less professional and was quoted $1000. so certainly NOT cheap, but NYC isn't a cheap city and this framer does work for the MoMA.
I always ask for quotes on size of the prints only , although professional some framers increase prices when naming The artists Print to be framed 😉
Nice options,still seems expensive , maybe the location ? yea. i brought it to another framer BEFORE this one that was decidedly less professional and was quoted $1000. so certainly NOT cheap, but NYC isn't a cheap city and this framer does work for the MoMA. I always ask for quotes on size of the prints only , although professional some framers increase prices when naming The artists Print to be framed 😉 |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by acaipride on May 9, 2020 2:53:01 GMT 1, 1k was def a name on the print premium.
Regarding the ocd collector comment, not at all..if you buy a watch aftermarket, if you buy a bbear aftermarket, if you buy any vinyl aftermarket the same rule applies, OG packaging, just like a banksy labeled tube, would be a premium. Not saying that the print itself lost value, none at all, but from an aftermarket point of view OG packaging drives a premium, especially a tube or packaging from a high end collectible, suck as any luxury watch or in this case art. I back tracked the replies you received on ny framers, personally i wouldn't have gone to any of them, most of the rec.s you see on here a very close friends of said top framers
1k was def a name on the print premium.
Regarding the ocd collector comment, not at all..if you buy a watch aftermarket, if you buy a bbear aftermarket, if you buy any vinyl aftermarket the same rule applies, OG packaging, just like a banksy labeled tube, would be a premium. Not saying that the print itself lost value, none at all, but from an aftermarket point of view OG packaging drives a premium, especially a tube or packaging from a high end collectible, suck as any luxury watch or in this case art. I back tracked the replies you received on ny framers, personally i wouldn't have gone to any of them, most of the rec.s you see on here a very close friends of said top framers
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by sirarthur on May 9, 2020 11:37:52 GMT 1, Oh dear buying BANKSQUIAT without COA is such a big risk considering print price will easily pass more than 130000£ price.
Oh dear buying BANKSQUIAT without COA is such a big risk considering print price will easily pass more than 130000£ price.
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by The Italian One on May 9, 2020 12:20:27 GMT 1, Oh dear buying BANKSQUIAT without COA is such a big risk considering print price will easily pass more than 130000£ price.
Oh dear buying BANKSQUIAT without COA is such a big risk considering print price will easily pass more than 130000£ price. maybe in 2035 |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by sirarthur on May 9, 2020 12:59:16 GMT 1, Oh dear buying BANKSQUIAT without COA is such a big risk considering print price will easily pass more than 130000£ price. maybe in 2035
Easily in 2-3 years
Oh dear buying BANKSQUIAT without COA is such a big risk considering print price will easily pass more than 130000£ price. maybe in 2035 Easily in 2-3 years |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on May 9, 2020 13:13:54 GMT 1,
Hence people taking a risk buying now 2 years probably 60-80k
If put into a Basquiat auction lot may be 80-180k?
Hence people taking a risk buying now 2 years probably 60-80k If put into a Basquiat auction lot may be 80-180k? |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on May 9, 2020 13:23:13 GMT 1,
Hence people taking a risk buying now
2 years probably 60-80k
If put into a Basquiat auction lot may be 80-180k?
Hence people taking a risk buying now 2 years probably 60-80k If put into a Basquiat auction lot may be 80-180k? |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by shy on May 9, 2020 13:40:35 GMT 1, Hence people taking a risk buying now 2 years probably 60-80k If put into a Basquiat auction lot may be 80-180k?
One of Banksy's greatest prints and new= highly desirable and extremely expensive
plus ALL SIGNED!
Hence people taking a risk buying now 2 years probably 60-80k If put into a Basquiat auction lot may be 80-180k? One of Banksy's greatest prints and new= highly desirable and extremely expensive plus ALL SIGNED! |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by glap86 on May 9, 2020 14:12:54 GMT 1, I actually think there are some pretty interesting legal questions that would come with buying a pre-COA print. Has Banksy/PC actually confirmed a CoA would be issued for Banksquiat? We might assume that to be the case but from looking at the GDP website and t&c, I see no promises.
With no promises as to issuing a CoA, then they’d be well within their rights to deny sending a CoA to a flipper (“we only promised a print”) where if it was sold as coming with a CoA (in two years time), they may not be.
The t&c says if you buy an item that will be accorded a CoA you may be required to enter into a separate sales contract. Has that happened with the Banksquiat purchases?
I actually think there are some pretty interesting legal questions that would come with buying a pre-COA print. Has Banksy/PC actually confirmed a CoA would be issued for Banksquiat? We might assume that to be the case but from looking at the GDP website and t&c, I see no promises.
With no promises as to issuing a CoA, then they’d be well within their rights to deny sending a CoA to a flipper (“we only promised a print”) where if it was sold as coming with a CoA (in two years time), they may not be.
The t&c says if you buy an item that will be accorded a CoA you may be required to enter into a separate sales contract. Has that happened with the Banksquiat purchases?
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by sirarthur on May 9, 2020 14:42:57 GMT 1, Hence people taking a risk buying now 2 years probably 60-80k If put into a Basquiat auction lot may be 80-180k?
Exactly it will be over 130000£
Hence people taking a risk buying now 2 years probably 60-80k If put into a Basquiat auction lot may be 80-180k? Exactly it will be over 130000£ |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by sirarthur on May 9, 2020 14:43:17 GMT 1, Hence people taking a risk buying now 2 years probably 60-80k If put into a Basquiat auction lot may be 80-180k? One of Banksy's greatest prints and new= highly desirable and extremely expensive plus ALL SIGNED!
Completely agree.
Hence people taking a risk buying now 2 years probably 60-80k If put into a Basquiat auction lot may be 80-180k? One of Banksy's greatest prints and new= highly desirable and extremely expensive plus ALL SIGNED! Completely agree. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on May 9, 2020 14:47:20 GMT 1, Coa only used for proof to confirm genuine As the print is new has so much to confirm It is genuine
On this type of release more of a marketing ploy
The print can be checked Against others
Provenance in the form of
Receipts
Gdp emails
Courier receipts
Packaging
printed on board so difficult to replicate and if were ,differences would be noticeable
For example you could have a genuine laz banksy Coa ten pound letter and a Fake note .
Just because you have a Coa you still need to check the print
Speculation on the market but going by the past sales , prints have risen year on year for the last 15 years and buyers now on the secondary market are buying in cheap , the image is great , what it represents ,family friendly , nod to a defining artist and the year it was released / delivered will be stamped in history , a lot going for the collectors
Coa only used for proof to confirm genuine As the print is new has so much to confirm It is genuine
On this type of release more of a marketing ploy
The print can be checked Against others
Provenance in the form of
Receipts
Gdp emails
Courier receipts
Packaging
printed on board so difficult to replicate and if were ,differences would be noticeable
For example you could have a genuine laz banksy Coa ten pound letter and a Fake note .
Just because you have a Coa you still need to check the print
Speculation on the market but going by the past sales , prints have risen year on year for the last 15 years and buyers now on the secondary market are buying in cheap , the image is great , what it represents ,family friendly , nod to a defining artist and the year it was released / delivered will be stamped in history , a lot going for the collectors
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by sirarthur on May 14, 2020 20:18:22 GMT 1, Banksquiat will be holly grail of Banksy print collection. I’ve heard rumours from some serious galleries that chinese collectors are willing to pay more than 160000£ for a print wirh COA
Banksquiat will be holly grail of Banksy print collection. I’ve heard rumours from some serious galleries that chinese collectors are willing to pay more than 160000£ for a print wirh COA
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Knowss on May 14, 2020 20:33:38 GMT 1, Banksquiat will be holly grail of Banksy print collection. I’ve heard rumours from some serious galleries that chinese collectors are willing to pay more than 160000£ for a print wirh COA
Show your sources.
Banksquiat will be holly grail of Banksy print collection. I’ve heard rumours from some serious galleries that chinese collectors are willing to pay more than 160000£ for a print wirh COA Show your sources. |
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