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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by jonvespa on Aug 27, 2020 19:35:08 GMT 1, Does Tate Ward/Artsy publish their auction prices? Can't seem to navigate either site to see results. Trying to see what that red Kawsbob went for as well....insurance stuff, not looking to buy or sell.
Does Tate Ward/Artsy publish their auction prices? Can't seem to navigate either site to see results. Trying to see what that red Kawsbob went for as well....insurance stuff, not looking to buy or sell.
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by LJCal on Aug 27, 2020 19:45:38 GMT 1, These insane prices have took all the fun out the game. It's too much now, i feel the the whole scene is now owned buy the super rich. I feel the same. As much as I like the idea that from the things I’m lucky enough to own, financially I’ve done ok. But I can’t help but feel sad in knowing that all of the art I set out chasing when I joined this forum is now far beyond my reach. If you’re a real collector of stuff you’ll get where I’m coming from. It’s not always about the money.
These insane prices have took all the fun out the game. It's too much now, i feel the the whole scene is now owned buy the super rich. I feel the same. As much as I like the idea that from the things I’m lucky enough to own, financially I’ve done ok. But I can’t help but feel sad in knowing that all of the art I set out chasing when I joined this forum is now far beyond my reach. If you’re a real collector of stuff you’ll get where I’m coming from. It’s not always about the money. I think it's getting to the point as well where you look at a Banksy print, which is nice, but still a pretty basic two or three colour screen print and your paying a £100k for it, you then look at the originals you can buy from some pretty amazing artists and it starts getting really hard to justify. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 19:47:36 GMT 1, I find this "real collector" stance really unsympathetic. You were a fan of Banksy early, when you could afford to buy his prints and get what you wanted fairly easily. If you were a big collector early on, no doubt you have a significant number of Banksy works. That's your reward for being there in the early days. Partly by having a good eye; partly by luck.
As time went on, more people became fans. Some may have been too young to become fans when he started out. They may not have even been old enough to have their own money to buy anything. Or they may be people who developed an interest in art later. Are they somehow lesser fans and therefore not entitled to own anything?
What you're talking about is less about collecting and more about hoarding. Just wanting to have everything is not really about the art. Most people don't expect to own everything they like by their favourite artist. They enjoy the art and usually feel lucky to have one or two pieces.
Compared to any artist of his stature - arguably at any point in history - Banksy is still extremely democratic in how he dispenses his work. Some goes to the very rich, but plenty goes to perfectly normal people. Look at GDP and the delight of people who never thought they'd own a Banksy. He even gives some out for free.
There's no hierarchy to being a fan. There's only timing.
I find this "real collector" stance really unsympathetic. You were a fan of Banksy early, when you could afford to buy his prints and get what you wanted fairly easily. If you were a big collector early on, no doubt you have a significant number of Banksy works. That's your reward for being there in the early days. Partly by having a good eye; partly by luck.
As time went on, more people became fans. Some may have been too young to become fans when he started out. They may not have even been old enough to have their own money to buy anything. Or they may be people who developed an interest in art later. Are they somehow lesser fans and therefore not entitled to own anything?
What you're talking about is less about collecting and more about hoarding. Just wanting to have everything is not really about the art. Most people don't expect to own everything they like by their favourite artist. They enjoy the art and usually feel lucky to have one or two pieces.
Compared to any artist of his stature - arguably at any point in history - Banksy is still extremely democratic in how he dispenses his work. Some goes to the very rich, but plenty goes to perfectly normal people. Look at GDP and the delight of people who never thought they'd own a Banksy. He even gives some out for free.
There's no hierarchy to being a fan. There's only timing.
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by trax51 on Aug 27, 2020 19:51:55 GMT 1, I find this "real collector" stance really unsympathetic. You were a fan of Banksy early, when you could afford to buy his prints and get what you wanted fairly easily. If you were a big collector early on, no doubt you have a significant number of Banksy works. That's your reward for being there in the early days. Partly by having a good eye; partly by luck. As time went on, more people became fans. Some may have been too young to become fans when he started out. They may not have even been old enough to have their own money to buy anything. Or they may be people who developed an interest in art later. Are they somehow lesser fans and therefore not entitled to own anything? What you're talking about is less about collecting and more about hoarding. Just wanting to have everything is not really about the art. Most people don't expect to own everything they like by their favourite artist. They enjoy the art and usually feel lucky to have one or two pieces. Compared to any artist of his stature - arguably at any point in history - Banksy is still extremely democratic in how he dispenses his work. Some goes to the very rich, but plenty goes to perfectly normal people. Look at GDP and the delight of people who never thought they'd own a Banksy. He even gives some out for free. There's no hierarchy to being a fan. There's only timing.
That’s a proper summary. Spot on
I find this "real collector" stance really unsympathetic. You were a fan of Banksy early, when you could afford to buy his prints and get what you wanted fairly easily. If you were a big collector early on, no doubt you have a significant number of Banksy works. That's your reward for being there in the early days. Partly by having a good eye; partly by luck. As time went on, more people became fans. Some may have been too young to become fans when he started out. They may not have even been old enough to have their own money to buy anything. Or they may be people who developed an interest in art later. Are they somehow lesser fans and therefore not entitled to own anything? What you're talking about is less about collecting and more about hoarding. Just wanting to have everything is not really about the art. Most people don't expect to own everything they like by their favourite artist. They enjoy the art and usually feel lucky to have one or two pieces. Compared to any artist of his stature - arguably at any point in history - Banksy is still extremely democratic in how he dispenses his work. Some goes to the very rich, but plenty goes to perfectly normal people. Look at GDP and the delight of people who never thought they'd own a Banksy. He even gives some out for free. There's no hierarchy to being a fan. There's only timing. That’s a proper summary. Spot on |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by LJCal on Aug 27, 2020 19:52:55 GMT 1, If you have proof of purchase there is absolutely no way pest control won't issue a certificate if the prevoius owner is being difficult. They (PC and the previous owners) would open themselves up to all manner of legal and reputational issues if they didn't. They have purposely with held the COA to stop flipping. I think if you sold it they'd be in their right to tell you to jog on if you flipped it regardless.
If you have proof of purchase there is absolutely no way pest control won't issue a certificate if the prevoius owner is being difficult. They (PC and the previous owners) would open themselves up to all manner of legal and reputational issues if they didn't. They have purposely with held the COA to stop flipping. I think if you sold it they'd be in their right to tell you to jog on if you flipped it regardless. No they wouldn't, they do it to discourage flipping not to punish buyers who have spent big sums on the work. Given they run a paid authentication service, to refuse to authenticate a legitimate work would be negligent, given the sums involved I could see buyers taking legal action, like the Warhol, Haring and Lichtenstein authentication services in the states (all now defunct due to legal issues). The law is slightly different here so it may be less straight forward to make a sucessful claim but I could see enough angles for people to try. This would all of course harm Banksy's and PC's reputation, be expensive and massive pain in the bollocks, they'll issue the cert - trust me. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on Aug 27, 2020 19:58:01 GMT 1, I find this "real collector" stance really unsympathetic. You were a fan of Banksy early, when you could afford to buy his prints and get what you wanted fairly easily. If you were a big collector early on, no doubt you have a significant number of Banksy works. That's your reward for being there in the early days. Partly by having a good eye; partly by luck. As time went on, more people became fans. Some may have been too young to become fans when he started out. They may not have even been old enough to have their own money to buy anything. Or they may be people who developed an interest in art later. Are they somehow lesser fans and therefore not entitled to own anything? What you're talking about is less about collecting and more about hoarding. Just wanting to have everything is not really about the art. Most people don't expect to own everything they like by their favourite artist. They enjoy the art and usually feel lucky to have one or two pieces. Compared to any artist of his stature - arguably at any point in history - Banksy is still extremely democratic in how he dispenses his work. Some goes to the very rich, but plenty goes to perfectly normal people. Look at GDP and the delight of people who never thought they'd own a Banksy. He even gives some out for free. There's no hierarchy to being a fan. There's only timing. Totally missing the point- its about accessibility. Before they were reasonably accessible to many, now they're accessible to few. Hence no fun anymore.
The early days were more for fun for the artist now it is a clearly well run business with a highly organised and expensive pr team
If they are holding back prints from the gdp event for bbay and sell 100 at today’s market prices that’s £6000000 alone.
market prices in two years time With just Selling items from the gdp event can raise £50 million direct to the artists business if all things carry on as they are now .
What artist or person would turn this down?
Free giveaways along the way to keep the early collectors happy
I find this "real collector" stance really unsympathetic. You were a fan of Banksy early, when you could afford to buy his prints and get what you wanted fairly easily. If you were a big collector early on, no doubt you have a significant number of Banksy works. That's your reward for being there in the early days. Partly by having a good eye; partly by luck. As time went on, more people became fans. Some may have been too young to become fans when he started out. They may not have even been old enough to have their own money to buy anything. Or they may be people who developed an interest in art later. Are they somehow lesser fans and therefore not entitled to own anything? What you're talking about is less about collecting and more about hoarding. Just wanting to have everything is not really about the art. Most people don't expect to own everything they like by their favourite artist. They enjoy the art and usually feel lucky to have one or two pieces. Compared to any artist of his stature - arguably at any point in history - Banksy is still extremely democratic in how he dispenses his work. Some goes to the very rich, but plenty goes to perfectly normal people. Look at GDP and the delight of people who never thought they'd own a Banksy. He even gives some out for free. There's no hierarchy to being a fan. There's only timing. Totally missing the point- its about accessibility. Before they were reasonably accessible to many, now they're accessible to few. Hence no fun anymore. The early days were more for fun for the artist now it is a clearly well run business with a highly organised and expensive pr team If they are holding back prints from the gdp event for bbay and sell 100 at today’s market prices that’s £6000000 alone. market prices in two years time With just Selling items from the gdp event can raise £50 million direct to the artists business if all things carry on as they are now . What artist or person would turn this down? Free giveaways along the way to keep the early collectors happy |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by LJCal on Aug 27, 2020 20:00:01 GMT 1, No they wouldn't, they do it to discourage flipping not to punish buyers who have spent big sums on the work. Given they run a paid authentication service, to refuse to authenticate a legitimate work would be negligent, given the sums involved I could see buyers taking legal action, like the Warhol, Haring and Lichtenstein authentication services in the states (all now defunct due to legal issues). The law is slightly different here so it may be less straight forward to make a sucessful claim but I could see enough angles for people to try. This would all of course harm Banksy's and PC's reputation, be expensive and massive pain in the bollocks, they'll issue the cert - trust me. Would you gamble £127k on it?
No they wouldn't, they do it to discourage flipping not to punish buyers who have spent big sums on the work. Given they run a paid authentication service, to refuse to authenticate a legitimate work would be negligent, given the sums involved I could see buyers taking legal action, like the Warhol, Haring and Lichtenstein authentication services in the states (all now defunct due to legal issues). The law is slightly different here so it may be less straight forward to make a sucessful claim but I could see enough angles for people to try. This would all of course harm Banksy's and PC's reputation, be expensive and massive pain in the bollocks, they'll issue the cert - trust me. Would you gamble £127k on it? If I was willing to pay that for a Banksquiat (which I'm not) then yes, I have already taken the gamble albeit for a whole lot less than this result. I think the result is mental but not because of the lack of a COA. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 20:00:12 GMT 1, I find this "real collector" stance really unsympathetic. You were a fan of Banksy early, when you could afford to buy his prints and get what you wanted fairly easily. If you were a big collector early on, no doubt you have a significant number of Banksy works. That's your reward for being there in the early days. Partly by having a good eye; partly by luck. As time went on, more people became fans. Some may have been too young to become fans when he started out. They may not have even been old enough to have their own money to buy anything. Or they may be people who developed an interest in art later. Are they somehow lesser fans and therefore not entitled to own anything? What you're talking about is less about collecting and more about hoarding. Just wanting to have everything is not really about the art. Most people don't expect to own everything they like by their favourite artist. They enjoy the art and usually feel lucky to have one or two pieces. Compared to any artist of his stature - arguably at any point in history - Banksy is still extremely democratic in how he dispenses his work. Some goes to the very rich, but plenty goes to perfectly normal people. Look at GDP and the delight of people who never thought they'd own a Banksy. He even gives some out for free. There's no hierarchy to being a fan. There's only timing. Totally missing the point- its about accessibility. Before they were reasonably accessible to many, now they're accessible to few. Hence no fun anymore.
And his work wasn't accessible to many. It was accessible to a few, limited by the amount of prints produced, but there was less competition.
You can still see and enjoy the art. What's changed is you can't have all of it.
For what it's worth, I liked Banksy back when you could just buy the prints on POW. They were £100 or so. I'd look at them often but I couldn't afford them. That wasn't much fun for me.
I find this "real collector" stance really unsympathetic. You were a fan of Banksy early, when you could afford to buy his prints and get what you wanted fairly easily. If you were a big collector early on, no doubt you have a significant number of Banksy works. That's your reward for being there in the early days. Partly by having a good eye; partly by luck. As time went on, more people became fans. Some may have been too young to become fans when he started out. They may not have even been old enough to have their own money to buy anything. Or they may be people who developed an interest in art later. Are they somehow lesser fans and therefore not entitled to own anything? What you're talking about is less about collecting and more about hoarding. Just wanting to have everything is not really about the art. Most people don't expect to own everything they like by their favourite artist. They enjoy the art and usually feel lucky to have one or two pieces. Compared to any artist of his stature - arguably at any point in history - Banksy is still extremely democratic in how he dispenses his work. Some goes to the very rich, but plenty goes to perfectly normal people. Look at GDP and the delight of people who never thought they'd own a Banksy. He even gives some out for free. There's no hierarchy to being a fan. There's only timing. Totally missing the point- its about accessibility. Before they were reasonably accessible to many, now they're accessible to few. Hence no fun anymore. No fun for you. It's immense fun for those who got lucky in the GDP lottery and got something they thought was beyond their reach. It's fun for the people who went to GDP and saw the work, and even more fun if you picked up a free screenprint. It's fun for the people who go to Walled Off Hotel. It's fun for people who went to Dismaland. And his work wasn't accessible to many. It was accessible to a few, limited by the amount of prints produced, but there was less competition. You can still see and enjoy the art. What's changed is you can't have all of it. For what it's worth, I liked Banksy back when you could just buy the prints on POW. They were £100 or so. I'd look at them often but I couldn't afford them. That wasn't much fun for me. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by bowlerhat20 on Aug 27, 2020 20:01:40 GMT 1, Totally missing the point- its about accessibility. Before they were reasonably accessible to many, now they're accessible to few. Hence no fun anymore. The early days were more for fun for the artist now it is a clearly well run business with a highly organised and expensive pr team If they are holding back prints from the gdp event for bbay and sell 100 at today’s market prices that’s £6000000 alone. market prices in two years time With just Selling items from the gdp event can raise £50 million direct to the artists business if all things carry on as they are now . What artist or person would turn this down? Free giveaways along the way to keep the early collectors happy
Wonder how much the thrower would go for if this has gone so high
Totally missing the point- its about accessibility. Before they were reasonably accessible to many, now they're accessible to few. Hence no fun anymore. The early days were more for fun for the artist now it is a clearly well run business with a highly organised and expensive pr team If they are holding back prints from the gdp event for bbay and sell 100 at today’s market prices that’s £6000000 alone. market prices in two years time With just Selling items from the gdp event can raise £50 million direct to the artists business if all things carry on as they are now . What artist or person would turn this down? Free giveaways along the way to keep the early collectors happy Wonder how much the thrower would go for if this has gone so high |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Fuzzyduck121 on Aug 27, 2020 20:11:05 GMT 1, If you listetened carefully at 6pm tonight you could make out the sound of around 600 people cumming in their pants.
Nowhere near 600 of these actually changed hands
Edition size is not equal to number sold
If you listetened carefully at 6pm tonight you could make out the sound of around 600 people cumming in their pants. Nowhere near 600 of these actually changed hands Edition size is not equal to number sold |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by LJCal on Aug 27, 2020 20:13:56 GMT 1, If you listetened carefully at 6pm tonight you could make out the sound of around 600 people cumming in their pants. Nowhere near 600 of these actually changed hands Edition size is not equal to number sold
Yeah but the person holding the stack of unsold prints came harrrd!
If you listetened carefully at 6pm tonight you could make out the sound of around 600 people cumming in their pants. Nowhere near 600 of these actually changed hands Edition size is not equal to number sold Yeah but the person holding the stack of unsold prints came harrrd! |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by diarmid on Aug 27, 2020 20:18:03 GMT 1, If anyone interested drop me dm as I may few sell at 175k.
Buying them between 60k to 70k paid off
If anyone interested drop me dm as I may few sell at 175k.
Buying them between 60k to 70k paid off
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by GMA on Aug 27, 2020 20:21:55 GMT 1, Some good discussion going on, I think the prices have definitely gone absolutely bat shit crazy recently, I remember not so long ago some forum members saying "This virus is going to bring the prices down, people will have to sell their prints blah blah" ... well that's backfired 
I fall into the camp of becoming interested in prints too late to the party for any early releases or bun fights. But the drops that do get released and exhibitions I've got to see for free have been amazing so I'm pleased to have been a part of it, even if it wasn't from the beginning.
Plenty of other great artists that I've also discovered and am happy to support with drops and the "scene" is so big now, more and more are joining in.
Some good discussion going on, I think the prices have definitely gone absolutely bat shit crazy recently, I remember not so long ago some forum members saying "This virus is going to bring the prices down, people will have to sell their prints blah blah" ... well that's backfired I fall into the camp of becoming interested in prints too late to the party for any early releases or bun fights. But the drops that do get released and exhibitions I've got to see for free have been amazing so I'm pleased to have been a part of it, even if it wasn't from the beginning. Plenty of other great artists that I've also discovered and am happy to support with drops and the "scene" is so big now, more and more are joining in. |
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this is super rad. I had no idea about this project... |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by LJCal on Aug 27, 2020 20:33:20 GMT 1, If anyone interested drop me dm as I may few sell at 175k. Buying them between 60k to 70k paid off
If anyone interested drop me dm as I may few sell at 175k. Buying them between 60k to 70k paid off Ah, good to know there’s some people giving back. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Knowss on Aug 27, 2020 20:34:01 GMT 1, Totally missing the point- its about accessibility. Before they were reasonably accessible to many, now they're accessible to few. Hence no fun anymore. No fun for you. It's immense fun for those who got lucky in the GDP lottery and got something they thought was beyond their reach. It's fun for the people who went to GDP and saw the work, and even more fun if you picked up a free screenprint. It's fun for the people who go to Walled Off Hotel. It's fun for people who went to Dismaland. And his work wasn't accessible to many. It was accessible to a few, limited by the amount of prints produced, but there was less competition. You can still see and enjoy the art. What's changed is you can't have all of it. For what it's worth, I liked Banksy back when you could just buy the prints on POW. They were £100 or so. I'd look at them often but I couldn't afford them. That wasn't much fun for me.
Agreec with this.
Totally missing the point- its about accessibility. Before they were reasonably accessible to many, now they're accessible to few. Hence no fun anymore. No fun for you. It's immense fun for those who got lucky in the GDP lottery and got something they thought was beyond their reach. It's fun for the people who went to GDP and saw the work, and even more fun if you picked up a free screenprint. It's fun for the people who go to Walled Off Hotel. It's fun for people who went to Dismaland. And his work wasn't accessible to many. It was accessible to a few, limited by the amount of prints produced, but there was less competition. You can still see and enjoy the art. What's changed is you can't have all of it. For what it's worth, I liked Banksy back when you could just buy the prints on POW. They were £100 or so. I'd look at them often but I couldn't afford them. That wasn't much fun for me. Agreec with this. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 20:40:45 GMT 1, I'm not meaning to have a go at anyone. I just don't like when being a fan of an artist is treated like a members club.
I'm not meaning to have a go at anyone. I just don't like when being a fan of an artist is treated like a members club.
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Aug 27, 2020 20:45:44 GMT 1, These insane prices have took all the fun out the game. It's too much now, i feel the the whole scene is now owned buy the super rich.
It’s still cheap, you don’t need to be an expert to predict 2x 3x price increase in next 10 years
These insane prices have took all the fun out the game. It's too much now, i feel the the whole scene is now owned buy the super rich. It’s still cheap, you don’t need to be an expert to predict 2x 3x price increase in next 10 years |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Aug 27, 2020 20:49:17 GMT 1, wow, what a result. Goodness. Just assumed I was paying top of the market when I bought mine in May, never would've thought it would double in price at an auction. How is the market continuing like this - it's madness and hard to believe it's sustainable.
It’s completely normal. With COA it’s price will increase another 30 percent to 170000 £. It’s first self released Banksy print with a reference to his most beloved artist Basquiat. This print must be very special to him.
wow, what a result. Goodness. Just assumed I was paying top of the market when I bought mine in May, never would've thought it would double in price at an auction. How is the market continuing like this - it's madness and hard to believe it's sustainable. It’s completely normal. With COA it’s price will increase another 30 percent to 170000 £. It’s first self released Banksy print with a reference to his most beloved artist Basquiat. This print must be very special to him. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Aug 27, 2020 20:50:56 GMT 1, Gentlemen has made a right purchase for a bargain price. Guess you've been proven right.
Thank you Sir.
Gentlemen has made a right purchase for a bargain price. Guess you've been proven right. Thank you Sir. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by coller on Aug 27, 2020 20:51:03 GMT 1, These insane prices have took all the fun out the game. It's too much now, i feel the the whole scene is now owned buy the super rich. I feel the same. As much as I like the idea that from the things I’m lucky enough to own, financially I’ve done ok. But I can’t help but feel sad in knowing that all of the art I set out chasing when I joined this forum is now far beyond my reach. If you’re a real collector of stuff you’ll get where I’m coming from. It’s not always about the money.
that said, coming to the realization that you're finally priced out of your favorite artist's art - seemingly forever - is a very hard pill to swallow as a collector/fan.
These insane prices have took all the fun out the game. It's too much now, i feel the the whole scene is now owned buy the super rich. I feel the same. As much as I like the idea that from the things I’m lucky enough to own, financially I’ve done ok. But I can’t help but feel sad in knowing that all of the art I set out chasing when I joined this forum is now far beyond my reach. If you’re a real collector of stuff you’ll get where I’m coming from. It’s not always about the money. 100% this. i have also done well, all things considered, and am grateful for what i have. that said, coming to the realization that you're finally priced out of your favorite artist's art - seemingly forever - is a very hard pill to swallow as a collector/fan. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Aug 27, 2020 20:53:01 GMT 1, These insane prices have took all the fun out the game. It's too much now, i feel the the whole scene is now owned buy the super rich. But that's been the case for ages. Unless you consider the days when prints were £10,000-30,000 to have been the days when normal people could get on board. Those sums are not in the reach of the vast majority of people. It's been the case for ages that the only way to get a Banksy was to win a lottery, have invested early and be able to trade up, or to get the freebies. In the past couple of years, you could pick up a Palestine poster or one of three GDP prints for nothing; a Peckham Rock for £2; a Welcome mat for £500. Or you could enter GDP. There are still ways in to owning something Banksy. The thing that's changed is the early investors can't easily trade up to the next print.
You are right. Genuine collector will always be happy with opportunities to own at least a rock or a poster. Banksy first of all is a street artist and he makes us everytime a surprise with his street paintings on the walls.
These insane prices have took all the fun out the game. It's too much now, i feel the the whole scene is now owned buy the super rich. But that's been the case for ages. Unless you consider the days when prints were £10,000-30,000 to have been the days when normal people could get on board. Those sums are not in the reach of the vast majority of people. It's been the case for ages that the only way to get a Banksy was to win a lottery, have invested early and be able to trade up, or to get the freebies. In the past couple of years, you could pick up a Palestine poster or one of three GDP prints for nothing; a Peckham Rock for £2; a Welcome mat for £500. Or you could enter GDP. There are still ways in to owning something Banksy. The thing that's changed is the early investors can't easily trade up to the next print. You are right. Genuine collector will always be happy with opportunities to own at least a rock or a poster. Banksy first of all is a street artist and he makes us everytime a surprise with his street paintings on the walls. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by coller on Aug 27, 2020 21:05:12 GMT 1, It’s still cheap, you don’t need to be an expert to predict 2x 3x price increase in next 10 years I agree these prices are going to continue to increase absolutely. Far too much money invested now to let prices drop. But cheap isn't the word I'd use - £127k is a phenomenal amount of money to 99% of the country.
and i don't necessarily agree that prices are going to continue to increase absolutely. not saying it won't, but it seems like anything is possible now. this is already completely insane, frankly. unsigned editions of 1000 selling for like 20k 
It’s still cheap, you don’t need to be an expert to predict 2x 3x price increase in next 10 years I agree these prices are going to continue to increase absolutely. Far too much money invested now to let prices drop. But cheap isn't the word I'd use - £127k is a phenomenal amount of money to 99% of the country. it sold for double the price of a signed flying choppers. i think most of us know it was a fluke outlier, but don't want to rain on people's parade. and i don't necessarily agree that prices are going to continue to increase absolutely. not saying it won't, but it seems like anything is possible now. this is already completely insane, frankly. unsigned editions of 1000 selling for like 20k |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Aug 27, 2020 21:20:51 GMT 1, It’s still cheap, you don’t need to be an expert to predict 2x 3x price increase in next 10 years I agree these prices are going to continue to increase absolutely. Far too much money invested now to let prices drop. But cheap isn't the word I'd use - £127k is a phenomenal amount of money to 99% of the country.
It’s cheap with COA it will easily be 170000 £. Banksy it’s about a street art, we can see his art in streets for free. Banksy it’s movement.
It’s still cheap, you don’t need to be an expert to predict 2x 3x price increase in next 10 years I agree these prices are going to continue to increase absolutely. Far too much money invested now to let prices drop. But cheap isn't the word I'd use - £127k is a phenomenal amount of money to 99% of the country. It’s cheap with COA it will easily be 170000 £. Banksy it’s about a street art, we can see his art in streets for free. Banksy it’s movement. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by coller on Aug 27, 2020 21:23:00 GMT 1, Ooo mystery - shill bidding???
i also highly recommend blocking artdelight. it's refreshing.
Ooo mystery - shill bidding??? who knows. the plot thickens. i also highly recommend blocking artdelight. it's refreshing. |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Aug 27, 2020 21:23:33 GMT 1, I agree these prices are going to continue to increase absolutely. Far too much money invested now to let prices drop. But cheap isn't the word I'd use - £127k is a phenomenal amount of money to 99% of the country. it sold for double the price of a signed flying choppers. i think most of us know it was a fluke outlier, but don't want to rain on people's parade. and i don't necessarily agree that prices are going to continue to increase absolutely. not saying it won't, but it seems like anything is possible now. this is already completely insane, frankly. unsigned editions of 1000 selling for like 20k
In 2008 many people thought Banksy was too expensive, but story goes on and will go on
I agree these prices are going to continue to increase absolutely. Far too much money invested now to let prices drop. But cheap isn't the word I'd use - £127k is a phenomenal amount of money to 99% of the country. it sold for double the price of a signed flying choppers. i think most of us know it was a fluke outlier, but don't want to rain on people's parade. and i don't necessarily agree that prices are going to continue to increase absolutely. not saying it won't, but it seems like anything is possible now. this is already completely insane, frankly. unsigned editions of 1000 selling for like 20k In 2008 many people thought Banksy was too expensive, but story goes on and will go on |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 21:24:24 GMT 1, Am stunned. I absolutely adore the man but its a print for god's sake... How far can this go?
Am stunned. I absolutely adore the man but its a print for god's sake... How far can this go?
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Aug 27, 2020 21:24:59 GMT 1, one thing I will say is I have such respect to Banksy for selling some of the prints for £500. He's basically given them away for free. He's literally changed peoples lives. I don't only love his art i totally respect him as a person.
I respect him too because genuine collector could be anyone, even a person with few posters like me
one thing I will say is I have such respect to Banksy for selling some of the prints for £500. He's basically given them away for free. He's literally changed peoples lives. I don't only love his art i totally respect him as a person. I respect him too because genuine collector could be anyone, even a person with few posters like me |
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Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by coller on Aug 27, 2020 21:25:21 GMT 1, The Banksquiat was always going to do well, whether that be at Tate Ward or wherever. Imagine this print at Sotheby's........... The fact Banksy paid a tribute to Jean-Michel Basquiat with this print will mean a lot to many in the art world. Whether people like it or not, this will be seen as a tribute by a great modern day artist to an amazing ........ one of the greatest........ if not 'the greatest' street artist in history - in terms of auction results Jean Michel Basquiat is leaps and bounds ahead of any street artist past or present. This then commands a massive premium - the 'Crown' in the Ferris wheel is so significant and so Basquiat and a big part of street art history......... This is important to many! 'Tribute print' it is (in my opinion) and it will do even better and better after this!
The Banksquiat was always going to do well, whether that be at Tate Ward or wherever. Imagine this print at Sotheby's........... The fact Banksy paid a tribute to Jean-Michel Basquiat with this print will mean a lot to many in the art world. Whether people like it or not, this will be seen as a tribute by a great modern day artist to an amazing ........ one of the greatest........ if not 'the greatest' street artist in history - in terms of auction results Jean Michel Basquiat is leaps and bounds ahead of any street artist past or present. This then commands a massive premium - the 'Crown' in the Ferris wheel is so significant and so Basquiat and a big part of street art history......... This is important to many! 'Tribute print' it is (in my opinion) and it will do even better and better after this! what you're saying equally applies to a lot of prints, like Choose Your Weapon or Soup Cans or Sale Ends. list goes on. |
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