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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 14, 2020 18:27:02 GMT 1, I mean from when they are in hand. There has to be more to this. They're obviously not unlimited if they're numbered So if the unlimited portion was not true what else is not true?
All will be revealed soon enough I suppose. I would say quite certain there will be another batch, but after that who knows🤷♂️
I mean from when they are in hand. There has to be more to this. They're obviously not unlimited if they're numbered So if the unlimited portion was not true what else is not true? All will be revealed soon enough I suppose. I would say quite certain there will be another batch, but after that who knows🤷♂️
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 14, 2020 18:28:21 GMT 1, There isn’t in existence anything that’s officially numbered that won’t be given a PC cert if it was bought legitimately. I suspect in time the only way to establish these as genuine once the dust has settled will be to authenticate them to the purchasers Can’t wait to see these up and displayed as the message and strength of the piece has always resonated with me out of all the GDP items
Wall sculptures and box sets are numbered and logged.
There isn’t in existence anything that’s officially numbered that won’t be given a PC cert if it was bought legitimately. I suspect in time the only way to establish these as genuine once the dust has settled will be to authenticate them to the purchasers Can’t wait to see these up and displayed as the message and strength of the piece has always resonated with me out of all the GDP items Wall sculptures and box sets are numbered and logged.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by laguy34 on Feb 14, 2020 18:30:17 GMT 1, Releasing another batch knowing that they are numbered and authentic seems like a huge huge headache.
Releasing another batch knowing that they are numbered and authentic seems like a huge huge headache.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Fuzzyduck121 on Feb 14, 2020 18:31:36 GMT 1, Both good points above And a major headache agreed
Both good points above And a major headache agreed
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by teabaggins on Feb 14, 2020 18:32:24 GMT 1, Being numbered definitely differentiates it from the postcards, walls, and other souvenirs imo. To me puts these more in the unsigned print realm if only 500 are done.
Being numbered definitely differentiates it from the postcards, walls, and other souvenirs imo. To me puts these more in the unsigned print realm if only 500 are done.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 14, 2020 18:35:31 GMT 1, There isn’t in existence anything that’s officially numbered that won’t be given a PC cert if it was bought legitimately. I suspect in time the only way to establish these as genuine once the dust has settled will be to authenticate them to the purchasers Can’t wait to see these up and displayed as the message and strength of the piece has always resonated with me out of all the GDP items Wall sculptures and box sets are numbered and logged. Yes but I think calling them numbered indicates from an edition.
There isn’t in existence anything that’s officially numbered that won’t be given a PC cert if it was bought legitimately. I suspect in time the only way to establish these as genuine once the dust has settled will be to authenticate them to the purchasers Can’t wait to see these up and displayed as the message and strength of the piece has always resonated with me out of all the GDP items Wall sculptures and box sets are numbered and logged. Yes but I think calling them numbered indicates from an edition.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 14, 2020 18:35:45 GMT 1, Being numbered definitely differentiates it from the postcards, walls, and other souvenirs imo. To me puts these more in the unsigned print realm if only 500 are done. there will def be another 500... but i think 1000 is it.
I expect that to happen before 2/24 when first round ships....
Being numbered definitely differentiates it from the postcards, walls, and other souvenirs imo. To me puts these more in the unsigned print realm if only 500 are done. there will def be another 500... but i think 1000 is it. I expect that to happen before 2/24 when first round ships....
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 14, 2020 18:38:00 GMT 1, Releasing another batch knowing that they are numbered and authentic seems like a huge huge headache. Yes, I think revealing this is a mistake on their part. I can't imagine LW is equipped to deal with a proper Banksy bunfight.
Releasing another batch knowing that they are numbered and authentic seems like a huge huge headache. Yes, I think revealing this is a mistake on their part. I can't imagine LW is equipped to deal with a proper Banksy bunfight.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 14, 2020 18:39:45 GMT 1, It's nice to hear some movement with these finally. Well done to everyone that went for one, I look forward to seeing more pics soon.
It's nice to hear some movement with these finally. Well done to everyone that went for one, I look forward to seeing more pics soon.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Stonetown on Feb 14, 2020 18:41:20 GMT 1, Being numbered definitely differentiates it from the postcards, walls, and other souvenirs imo. To me puts these more in the unsigned print realm if only 500 are done. there will def be another 500... but i think 1000 is it. I expect that to happen before 2/24 when first round ships....
What was original price on release? Looks like price went down on love welcomes site. Is that correct?
Being numbered definitely differentiates it from the postcards, walls, and other souvenirs imo. To me puts these more in the unsigned print realm if only 500 are done. there will def be another 500... but i think 1000 is it. I expect that to happen before 2/24 when first round ships.... What was original price on release? Looks like price went down on love welcomes site. Is that correct?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by churchwood on Feb 14, 2020 18:42:46 GMT 1, there will def be another 500... but i think 1000 is it. I expect that to happen before 2/24 when first round ships.... What was original price on release? Looks like price went down on love welcomes site. Is that correct?
£500
there will def be another 500... but i think 1000 is it. I expect that to happen before 2/24 when first round ships.... What was original price on release? Looks like price went down on love welcomes site. Is that correct? £500
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Happy Shopper on Feb 14, 2020 18:43:20 GMT 1, Releasing another batch knowing that they are numbered and authentic seems like a huge huge headache. Yes, I think revealing this is a mistake on their part. I can't imagine LW is equipped to deal with a proper Banksy bunfight. Because they did a waitlist I imagine they'll just email the first 500 that contacted them after the initial sell out. Or maybe send a link to the whole waitlist, but not make it publicly known... and no date for the drop, just a random email with the buy link. That's my guess!
Releasing another batch knowing that they are numbered and authentic seems like a huge huge headache. Yes, I think revealing this is a mistake on their part. I can't imagine LW is equipped to deal with a proper Banksy bunfight. Because they did a waitlist I imagine they'll just email the first 500 that contacted them after the initial sell out. Or maybe send a link to the whole waitlist, but not make it publicly known... and no date for the drop, just a random email with the buy link. That's my guess!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by touchdowntodd on Feb 14, 2020 18:44:07 GMT 1, Releasing another batch knowing that they are numbered and authentic seems like a huge huge headache. Yes, I think revealing this is a mistake on their part. I can't imagine LW is equipped to deal with a proper Banksy bunfight.
Random question....
Why does everyone agree that everything at the gdp shop was basically misleading on purpose, but not think LW would do the same? And why wouldn't they take emails just to boost customer base? I bought placemats after getting an email showing their other products..
There doesn't have to be any more The "numbers" could be order #s The mats could be made again, and differently, altho we can all agree they missed the best window to do those sales. No reason not to take money right away, people are waiting either way. 500 was the cutoff for some reason this time, or forever .. we don't know why yet, might never know. Note how LW says it will be specifically labeled as from Banksys GDP store. Because of the link used then, perhaps any more made will simply be a LW release, and not associated with B in anything more than theory, and in fact he's given them a trademark on that image as his "gift".. who knows
Let's all log off, buy another LW product, and support the real message
Releasing another batch knowing that they are numbered and authentic seems like a huge huge headache. Yes, I think revealing this is a mistake on their part. I can't imagine LW is equipped to deal with a proper Banksy bunfight. Random question.... Why does everyone agree that everything at the gdp shop was basically misleading on purpose, but not think LW would do the same? And why wouldn't they take emails just to boost customer base? I bought placemats after getting an email showing their other products.. There doesn't have to be any more The "numbers" could be order #s The mats could be made again, and differently, altho we can all agree they missed the best window to do those sales. No reason not to take money right away, people are waiting either way. 500 was the cutoff for some reason this time, or forever .. we don't know why yet, might never know. Note how LW says it will be specifically labeled as from Banksys GDP store. Because of the link used then, perhaps any more made will simply be a LW release, and not associated with B in anything more than theory, and in fact he's given them a trademark on that image as his "gift".. who knows Let's all log off, buy another LW product, and support the real message
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 14, 2020 18:45:10 GMT 1, Yes, I think revealing this is a mistake on their part. I can't imagine LW is equipped to deal with a proper Banksy bunfight. Because they did a waitlist I imagine they'll just email the first 500 that contacted them after the initial sell out. Or maybe send a link to the whole waitlist, but not make it publicly known... and no date for the drop, just a random email with the buy link. That's my guess! The mailing list isn't banksy specific, it's for their entire website and all product updates. Anyone on the mailing list will receive the notification not just for this specific release, but for everything regarding LW moving forward.
They're using this exposure to get as many on the mailing list as possible.
Yes, I think revealing this is a mistake on their part. I can't imagine LW is equipped to deal with a proper Banksy bunfight. Because they did a waitlist I imagine they'll just email the first 500 that contacted them after the initial sell out. Or maybe send a link to the whole waitlist, but not make it publicly known... and no date for the drop, just a random email with the buy link. That's my guess! The mailing list isn't banksy specific, it's for their entire website and all product updates. Anyone on the mailing list will receive the notification not just for this specific release, but for everything regarding LW moving forward. They're using this exposure to get as many on the mailing list as possible.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 14, 2020 18:47:47 GMT 1, What was original price on release? Looks like price went down on love welcomes site. Is that correct? £500 Total with shipping to US was $700 USD for me.
What was original price on release? Looks like price went down on love welcomes site. Is that correct? £500 Total with shipping to US was $700 USD for me.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by teabaggins on Feb 14, 2020 18:47:49 GMT 1, there will def be another 500... but i think 1000 is it. I expect that to happen before 2/24 when first round ships.... What was original price on release? Looks like price went down on love welcomes site. Is that correct? was cheaper in the US due to no VAT
there will def be another 500... but i think 1000 is it. I expect that to happen before 2/24 when first round ships.... What was original price on release? Looks like price went down on love welcomes site. Is that correct? was cheaper in the US due to no VAT
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Carl Cashman Art on Feb 14, 2020 18:49:53 GMT 1, Not really, it was always a banksy product and likely to be numbered! Hopefully the keep pumping them out and put the profit in the hands of the charity. Doubt they would be numbered if they were unlimited.... You can label them until they stop production though. It's great money for the charity, better than £40 items they sell, so itd be nice if they drop 500 every 3 or 4 months.
Not really, it was always a banksy product and likely to be numbered! Hopefully the keep pumping them out and put the profit in the hands of the charity. Doubt they would be numbered if they were unlimited.... You can label them until they stop production though. It's great money for the charity, better than £40 items they sell, so itd be nice if they drop 500 every 3 or 4 months.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Carl Cashman Art on Feb 14, 2020 18:51:21 GMT 1, Releasing another batch knowing that they are numbered and authentic seems like a huge huge headache. How were they not authentic when listed on the GDP website ? That's about as authentic as you can get.
Releasing another batch knowing that they are numbered and authentic seems like a huge huge headache. How were they not authentic when listed on the GDP website ? That's about as authentic as you can get.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 14, 2020 18:51:59 GMT 1, Doubt they would be numbered if they were unlimited.... You can label them until they stop production though. It's great money for the charity, better than £40 items they sell, so itd be nice if they drop 500 every 3 or 4 months. I don't think that is the case, and would really be no point in specifically mentioning them being "individually numbered" nor the statement from banksy as "display only" if we routinely could buy them... but anything is possible.
Doubt they would be numbered if they were unlimited.... You can label them until they stop production though. It's great money for the charity, better than £40 items they sell, so itd be nice if they drop 500 every 3 or 4 months. I don't think that is the case, and would really be no point in specifically mentioning them being "individually numbered" nor the statement from banksy as "display only" if we routinely could buy them... but anything is possible.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Carl Cashman Art on Feb 14, 2020 18:54:44 GMT 1, You can label them until they stop production though. It's great money for the charity, better than £40 items they sell, so itd be nice if they drop 500 every 3 or 4 months. I don't think that is the case, and would really be no point in specifically mentioning them being "individually numbered" nor the statement from banksy as "display only" if we routinely could buy them... but anything is possible. Why not ? From a charity point of view it makes sense to sell an item thats 10x the price of the rest of what they sell. They've been taught how to make them now, might as well utilise that.
You can label them until they stop production though. It's great money for the charity, better than £40 items they sell, so itd be nice if they drop 500 every 3 or 4 months. I don't think that is the case, and would really be no point in specifically mentioning them being "individually numbered" nor the statement from banksy as "display only" if we routinely could buy them... but anything is possible. Why not ? From a charity point of view it makes sense to sell an item thats 10x the price of the rest of what they sell. They've been taught how to make them now, might as well utilise that.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by fuqueuing on Feb 14, 2020 18:56:14 GMT 1, Out 500 quid and no place to wipe my boots!
Out 500 quid and no place to wipe my boots!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 14, 2020 18:56:43 GMT 1, I don't think that is the case, and would really be no point in specifically mentioning them being "individually numbered" nor the statement from banksy as "display only" if we routinely could buy them... but anything is possible. Why not ? From a charity point of view it makes sense to sell an item thats 10x the price of the rest of what they sell. They've been taught how to make them now, might as well utilise that. Correct, as I said, "Anything is possible." However I do not think they would be as specific as they were if that were the case. That and the interest level would be non existent pretty quick if that was the case at $700, and at that point, doubt banksy would specifically say don't use them as intended.
I don't think that is the case, and would really be no point in specifically mentioning them being "individually numbered" nor the statement from banksy as "display only" if we routinely could buy them... but anything is possible. Why not ? From a charity point of view it makes sense to sell an item thats 10x the price of the rest of what they sell. They've been taught how to make them now, might as well utilise that. Correct, as I said, "Anything is possible." However I do not think they would be as specific as they were if that were the case. That and the interest level would be non existent pretty quick if that was the case at $700, and at that point, doubt banksy would specifically say don't use them as intended.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 14, 2020 18:59:39 GMT 1, Yes, I think revealing this is a mistake on their part. I can't imagine LW is equipped to deal with a proper Banksy bunfight. Random question.... Why does everyone agree that everything at the gdp shop was basically misleading on purpose, but not think LW would do the same? And why wouldn't they take emails just to boost customer base? I bought placemats after getting an email showing their other products.. There doesn't have to be any more The "numbers" could be order #s The mats could be made again, and differently, altho we can all agree they missed the best window to do those sales. No reason not to take money right away, people are waiting either way. 500 was the cutoff for some reason this time, or forever .. we don't know why yet, might never know. Let's all log off, buy another LW product, and support the real message LW might do the same, yes. But I think it wouldn't be to deceive buyers for their own marketing purposes. It would be in conjunction with any misdirection coming from the Banksy camp.
Yes, LW can and should collect email addresses.
There may be no more mats but I'd be surprised if that were the case. I don't think Banksy's team would be cool with LW collecting emails in Banksy's name by misleading people into thinking more were coming.
They could be order numbers but they wouldn't be GDP order numbers as no one has checked out via GDP for the LW mat.
More mats could be made, or not, who knows.
Between LW and Choose.Love I have absolutely supported the real message and will continue to do so.
Yes, I think revealing this is a mistake on their part. I can't imagine LW is equipped to deal with a proper Banksy bunfight. Random question.... Why does everyone agree that everything at the gdp shop was basically misleading on purpose, but not think LW would do the same? And why wouldn't they take emails just to boost customer base? I bought placemats after getting an email showing their other products.. There doesn't have to be any more The "numbers" could be order #s The mats could be made again, and differently, altho we can all agree they missed the best window to do those sales. No reason not to take money right away, people are waiting either way. 500 was the cutoff for some reason this time, or forever .. we don't know why yet, might never know. Let's all log off, buy another LW product, and support the real message LW might do the same, yes. But I think it wouldn't be to deceive buyers for their own marketing purposes. It would be in conjunction with any misdirection coming from the Banksy camp. Yes, LW can and should collect email addresses. There may be no more mats but I'd be surprised if that were the case. I don't think Banksy's team would be cool with LW collecting emails in Banksy's name by misleading people into thinking more were coming. They could be order numbers but they wouldn't be GDP order numbers as no one has checked out via GDP for the LW mat. More mats could be made, or not, who knows. Between LW and Choose.Love I have absolutely supported the real message and will continue to do so.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 19:00:51 GMT 1, I have spoken to someone more in the know than most of us.
They aren’t planning a COA currently but it isn’t out of the question Another 500 is possible but no guarantee. 1000 max.
There is almost certainly a surprise / reward as the people who bought these immediately sought to give £500 a great cause banksy cares greatly about. These people didn’t instantly want the prints or big ticket pieces. Banksy likes this.
This could end up being a numbered 500 edition with COA.. maybe even more!
Congrats to those who bought for the right reasons.. you might just get lucky.
I have spoken to someone more in the know than most of us.
They aren’t planning a COA currently but it isn’t out of the question Another 500 is possible but no guarantee. 1000 max.
There is almost certainly a surprise / reward as the people who bought these immediately sought to give £500 a great cause banksy cares greatly about. These people didn’t instantly want the prints or big ticket pieces. Banksy likes this.
This could end up being a numbered 500 edition with COA.. maybe even more!
Congrats to those who bought for the right reasons.. you might just get lucky.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 14, 2020 19:02:10 GMT 1, What was original price on release? Looks like price went down on love welcomes site. Is that correct? was cheaper in the US due to no VAT I think we were charged VAT unless UK purchases were not inclusive of VAT
What was original price on release? Looks like price went down on love welcomes site. Is that correct? was cheaper in the US due to no VAT I think we were charged VAT unless UK purchases were not inclusive of VAT
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by laguy34 on Feb 14, 2020 19:03:00 GMT 1, I meant "Authentic" as the debate seemed to be if these were just non stop welcome mats or Banksy actually saying this is art, don't walk on it.
Also, they website lists it as being "rare" at this point, seems to indicate the future of the item. Of course they were always authentic.
I've also said from the beginning, this is not like a walmart. The goal would be to move the refugees out of the camps and onto a better life. So the theory this is like a 9-5 where people show up every day and make Banksy welcome mats for the next 10 years has always seemed a bit far fetched to me.
I wish the opposite actually. Hopefully these amazing women have the opportunity to not make these forever.
I meant "Authentic" as the debate seemed to be if these were just non stop welcome mats or Banksy actually saying this is art, don't walk on it. Also, they website lists it as being "rare" at this point, seems to indicate the future of the item. Of course they were always authentic. I've also said from the beginning, this is not like a walmart. The goal would be to move the refugees out of the camps and onto a better life. So the theory this is like a 9-5 where people show up every day and make Banksy welcome mats for the next 10 years has always seemed a bit far fetched to me. I wish the opposite actually. Hopefully these amazing women have the opportunity to not make these forever.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by 19818914 on Feb 14, 2020 19:18:15 GMT 1, Holy shit who gives a fuck.
Holy shit who gives a fuck.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 19:21:14 GMT 1, Holys**t who gives a fuck.
Every single refugee who’s live has been saved! You total monster!
Banksy hates you
Holys**t who gives a fuck. Every single refugee who’s live has been saved! You total monster! Banksy hates you
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by sgolby on Feb 14, 2020 19:29:18 GMT 1, The best part of the email is the part no one is referencing unfortunately:
We hope you are pleased with your purchase and we do encourage you to promote the mat and Love Welcomes on social media tagging us at Love Welcomes. The more products that we sell, the more refugees we can employ and urgent services we can supply, means the more lives we can change. One woman we work with called Laure explained to us the difference the work is making in her life after her treacherous journey to Greece. She said: “I felt like committing suicide – these were the thoughts going through my mind…But when I knew about Love Welcomes, and I started weaving, all of these thoughts suddenly melted.” Thank you for being a part of this journey.
The best part of the email is the part no one is referencing unfortunately:
We hope you are pleased with your purchase and we do encourage you to promote the mat and Love Welcomes on social media tagging us at Love Welcomes. The more products that we sell, the more refugees we can employ and urgent services we can supply, means the more lives we can change. One woman we work with called Laure explained to us the difference the work is making in her life after her treacherous journey to Greece. She said: “I felt like committing suicide – these were the thoughts going through my mind…But when I knew about Love Welcomes, and I started weaving, all of these thoughts suddenly melted.” Thank you for being a part of this journey.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 14, 2020 19:36:19 GMT 1, The best part of the email is the part no one is referencing unfortunately: We hope you are pleased with your purchase and we do encourage you to promote the mat and Love Welcomes on social media tagging us at Love Welcomes. The more products that we sell, the more refugees we can employ and urgent services we can supply, means the more lives we can change. One woman we work with called Laure explained to us the difference the work is making in her life after her treacherous journey to Greece. She said: “I felt like committing suicide – these were the thoughts going through my mind…But when I knew about Love Welcomes, and I started weaving, all of these thoughts suddenly melted.” Thank you for being a part of this journey. That's not the first time most of us are seeing that part of the email. If you follow LWs social media it's been posted there (a couple of times if I recall) and it was also included in the promotional video we were all talking about a week or so ago.
It is the best part, seeing all the smiles on those women's faces is absolutely magical and helping even one person see that light at the end of the tunnel is wonderful.
The best part of the email is the part no one is referencing unfortunately: We hope you are pleased with your purchase and we do encourage you to promote the mat and Love Welcomes on social media tagging us at Love Welcomes. The more products that we sell, the more refugees we can employ and urgent services we can supply, means the more lives we can change. One woman we work with called Laure explained to us the difference the work is making in her life after her treacherous journey to Greece. She said: “I felt like committing suicide – these were the thoughts going through my mind…But when I knew about Love Welcomes, and I started weaving, all of these thoughts suddenly melted.” Thank you for being a part of this journey. That's not the first time most of us are seeing that part of the email. If you follow LWs social media it's been posted there (a couple of times if I recall) and it was also included in the promotional video we were all talking about a week or so ago. It is the best part, seeing all the smiles on those women's faces is absolutely magical and helping even one person see that light at the end of the tunnel is wonderful.
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