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Martin Whatson - Passé, by drip on Dec 2, 2019 16:35:03 GMT 1, Agree with Jaylove, just my addition the the 'help the artists' statement above, I went to the recent Stik/Noir signing at the IWM. Nice fella's the pair of them, spent all day signing the cards/posters, charity event. I'm staggered at how many of these items now on eBay? If I was the artist, sitting there making the effort with people, signing cards etc, then if I saw them being sold, that would give me the right hump, and think twice about doing it again.
Agree with Jaylove, just my addition the the 'help the artists' statement above, I went to the recent Stik/Noir signing at the IWM. Nice fella's the pair of them, spent all day signing the cards/posters, charity event. I'm staggered at how many of these items now on eBay? If I was the artist, sitting there making the effort with people, signing cards etc, then if I saw them being sold, that would give me the right hump, and think twice about doing it again. I think it's probably a good idea to only sign items with a dedication (To Jon, etc). |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by John The Badgers on Dec 2, 2019 17:38:24 GMT 1, Good shout Drip, I would also add, and perhaps a missed opportunity on the Stik/Noir signing, but charitable donations asked for?
Good shout Drip, I would also add, and perhaps a missed opportunity on the Stik/Noir signing, but charitable donations asked for?
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Street Art Degree on Dec 7, 2019 10:00:17 GMT 1, I’m looking for Passé print main or hand finish edition, if anyone want to sell it please DM me.
I’m looking for Passé print main or hand finish edition, if anyone want to sell it please DM me.
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by sean1397 on Jan 14, 2020 7:52:22 GMT 1, 1st if flippers weren’t buying the prints than you wouldn’t have missed out on the primary sale...they quite literally take art out of true collectors hands. 2nd how do you think flippers help artists? Do you believe they contact artists and offer to split the profits with them 😉? Anyway, best to you.
Just to answer your two questions:
1. If all the prints went to collectors it would be much harder to buy one if you missed the drop (forgot, had to work, whatever). Flippers help some collectors obtain art.
2. They help artists because they guarantee sell outs. This leads to higher prices and more fighting to get the next drop. Flippers are great for artists just like ticket scalpers are great for bands. This is not debatable. More buyers = higher prices and more sales.
Sean
1st if flippers weren’t buying the prints than you wouldn’t have missed out on the primary sale...they quite literally take art out of true collectors hands. 2nd how do you think flippers help artists? Do you believe they contact artists and offer to split the profits with them 😉? Anyway, best to you.
Just to answer your two questions:
1. If all the prints went to collectors it would be much harder to buy one if you missed the drop (forgot, had to work, whatever). Flippers help some collectors obtain art.
2. They help artists because they guarantee sell outs. This leads to higher prices and more fighting to get the next drop. Flippers are great for artists just like ticket scalpers are great for bands. This is not debatable. More buyers = higher prices and more sales.
Sean
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by tab1 on Jan 14, 2020 8:23:12 GMT 1, 1st if flippers weren’t buying the prints than you wouldn’t have missed out on the primary sale...they quite literally take art out of true collectors hands. 2nd how do you think flippers help artists? Do you believe they contact artists and offer to split the profits with them 😉? Anyway, best to you. Just to answer your two questions: 1. If all the prints went to collectors it would be much harder to buy one if you missed the drop (forgot, had to work, whatever). Flippers help some collectors obtain art. 2. They help artists because they guarantee sell outs. This leads to higher prices and more fighting to get the next drop. Flippers are great for artists just like ticket scalpers are great for bands. This is not debatable. More buyers = higher prices and more sales. Sean
1. If all went to collectors none would come onto the market as they would be bought to display or held long term and would only add to higher prices on the secondary market and later releases to tempt collectors to part onto the market.
hence how on some lotteries / pre sales , galleries do not always sell to regular buyers although they publicly dishone flippers they like the prices they achieve to justify their next release price at higher prices , some print shops even use eBay prices to set prices .
the artist gains long term as increases their sales ,some cases helps produces sell outs on release which could generate 50k-250k gbp in a day .
creates hype and talking point of the artist .
1st if flippers weren’t buying the prints than you wouldn’t have missed out on the primary sale...they quite literally take art out of true collectors hands. 2nd how do you think flippers help artists? Do you believe they contact artists and offer to split the profits with them 😉? Anyway, best to you. Just to answer your two questions: 1. If all the prints went to collectors it would be much harder to buy one if you missed the drop (forgot, had to work, whatever). Flippers help some collectors obtain art. 2. They help artists because they guarantee sell outs. This leads to higher prices and more fighting to get the next drop. Flippers are great for artists just like ticket scalpers are great for bands. This is not debatable. More buyers = higher prices and more sales. Sean To add to your points 1. If all went to collectors none would come onto the market as they would be bought to display or held long term and would only add to higher prices on the secondary market and later releases to tempt collectors to part onto the market. hence how on some lotteries / pre sales , galleries do not always sell to regular buyers although they publicly dishone flippers they like the prices they achieve to justify their next release price at higher prices , some print shops even use eBay prices to set prices . the artist gains long term as increases their sales ,some cases helps produces sell outs on release which could generate 50k-250k gbp in a day . creates hype and talking point of the artist . |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 10:28:01 GMT 1, 1st if flippers weren’t buying the prints than you wouldn’t have missed out on the primary sale...they quite literally take art out of true collectors hands. 2nd how do you think flippers help artists? Do you believe they contact artists and offer to split the profits with them 😉? Anyway, best to you. Just to answer your two questions: 1. If all the prints went to collectors it would be much harder to buy one if you missed the drop (forgot, had to work, whatever). Flippers help some collectors obtain art. 2. They help artists because they guarantee sell outs. This leads to higher prices and more fighting to get the next drop. Flippers are great for artists just like ticket scalpers are great for bands. This is not debatable. More buyers = higher prices and more sales. Sean
They are all tossers if you have to pay more to see a band or more to collect the artist you like.
So annoying when you try and get a ticket for say Kasabian, miss out on it and then see the touts flogging thousands of them for 3 or 4 times cost . (I got tickets by the way, can't wait)
Also I think the way flippers help a lot is the pumping and dumping of artists, so if I was an artist, slow growth is where it's at, not instant fame with the flippers creating your short term market, produce say 3 prints and your a superstar selling 5 times the price what the first one went for, then 3 years later back working a 9-5 with no market as everyone has been burnt and your prints are worth a 10th of what they sold for
1st if flippers weren’t buying the prints than you wouldn’t have missed out on the primary sale...they quite literally take art out of true collectors hands. 2nd how do you think flippers help artists? Do you believe they contact artists and offer to split the profits with them 😉? Anyway, best to you. Just to answer your two questions: 1. If all the prints went to collectors it would be much harder to buy one if you missed the drop (forgot, had to work, whatever). Flippers help some collectors obtain art. 2. They help artists because they guarantee sell outs. This leads to higher prices and more fighting to get the next drop. Flippers are great for artists just like ticket scalpers are great for bands. This is not debatable. More buyers = higher prices and more sales. Sean They are all tossers if you have to pay more to see a band or more to collect the artist you like. So annoying when you try and get a ticket for say Kasabian, miss out on it and then see the touts flogging thousands of them for 3 or 4 times cost . (I got tickets by the way, can't wait) Also I think the way flippers help a lot is the pumping and dumping of artists, so if I was an artist, slow growth is where it's at, not instant fame with the flippers creating your short term market, produce say 3 prints and your a superstar selling 5 times the price what the first one went for, then 3 years later back working a 9-5 with no market as everyone has been burnt and your prints are worth a 10th of what they sold for |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Hairbland on Jan 14, 2020 14:45:04 GMT 1, Why do people get so upset with flippers? I have not flipped anything but flippers serve two purposes - they let people buy things they miss like me and they help artists. Trust me if artists didn't benefit from flippers and concert holders didn't benefit from scalpers they would eliminate them! If you don't like a flipper just ignore him and dont buy from him. Calling him scum really doesn't do anything productive. After writing that you really don't understand why people on an art forum would be mad at flippers? The flipper automatically blocks real buyers from buying and then forces them to pay a highly inflated price for the same item. Remove flippers and that item gets much cheaper. It is imposible for an artist to ban a flipper. There's a difference between a flipper and someone who resells the item. Flippers are the worst kind. Hate em.
I worked in the music biz for over 30 years and everyone hated scalpers, and they still exist. Flippers are a way of life, people should get over it.
Why do people get so upset with flippers? I have not flipped anything but flippers serve two purposes - they let people buy things they miss like me and they help artists. Trust me if artists didn't benefit from flippers and concert holders didn't benefit from scalpers they would eliminate them! If you don't like a flipper just ignore him and dont buy from him. Calling him scum really doesn't do anything productive. After writing that you really don't understand why people on an art forum would be mad at flippers? The flipper automatically blocks real buyers from buying and then forces them to pay a highly inflated price for the same item. Remove flippers and that item gets much cheaper. It is imposible for an artist to ban a flipper. There's a difference between a flipper and someone who resells the item. Flippers are the worst kind. Hate em. I worked in the music biz for over 30 years and everyone hated scalpers, and they still exist. Flippers are a way of life, people should get over it. |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Jaylove on Jan 14, 2020 15:10:31 GMT 1, After writing that you really don't understand why people on an art forum would be mad at flippers? The flipper automatically blocks real buyers from buying and then forces them to pay a highly inflated price for the same item. Remove flippers and that item gets much cheaper. It is imposible for an artist to ban a flipper. There's a difference between a flipper and someone who resells the item. Flippers are the worst kind. Hate em. I worked in the music biz for over 30 years and everyone hated scalpers, and they still exist. Flippers are a way of life, people should get over it.
Flippers are a way of life but I don’t have to like them and I don’t have to accept them here.
After writing that you really don't understand why people on an art forum would be mad at flippers? The flipper automatically blocks real buyers from buying and then forces them to pay a highly inflated price for the same item. Remove flippers and that item gets much cheaper. It is imposible for an artist to ban a flipper. There's a difference between a flipper and someone who resells the item. Flippers are the worst kind. Hate em. I worked in the music biz for over 30 years and everyone hated scalpers, and they still exist. Flippers are a way of life, people should get over it. Flippers are a way of life but I don’t have to like them and I don’t have to accept them here. |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Winks on Jan 14, 2020 15:26:57 GMT 1, I worked in the music biz for over 30 years and everyone hated scalpers, and they still exist. Flippers are a way of life, people should get over it. Flippers are a way of life but I don’t have to like them and I don’t have to accept them here.
You probably do have to accept them on here.
Can give them a hard time though
I worked in the music biz for over 30 years and everyone hated scalpers, and they still exist. Flippers are a way of life, people should get over it. Flippers are a way of life but I don’t have to like them and I don’t have to accept them here. You probably do have to accept them on here. Can give them a hard time though |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by duggyfresh on Mar 25, 2020 10:58:04 GMT 1,
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Feels Good Man 84 on Mar 26, 2020 1:38:57 GMT 1, Nice frame up duggy looks great
Nice frame up duggy looks great
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by aki on Mar 28, 2020 8:43:10 GMT 1, Who’s got a passé main Ed to sell me? Uk
Who’s got a passé main Ed to sell me? Uk
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Feels Good Man 84 on Mar 28, 2020 9:42:04 GMT 1, A guy on whatson fb group has one for 1300usd
A guy on whatson fb group has one for 1300usd
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by aki on Mar 28, 2020 22:04:56 GMT 1, A guy on whatson fb group has one for 1300usd
He’s in Hong Kong , can’t be dealing with that, too much to go wrong
A guy on whatson fb group has one for 1300usd He’s in Hong Kong , can’t be dealing with that, too much to go wrong |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Feels Good Man 84 on Mar 28, 2020 23:58:21 GMT 1, There is a guy in the US w one...
There is a guy in the US w one...
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by daveart on Jun 25, 2020 17:00:27 GMT 1, USA based - looking for passe - let me know if you have one..
USA based - looking for passe - let me know if you have one..
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by shitigator on Aug 21, 2021 3:30:10 GMT 1, : HF Passe. (Might consider Dancer if I can't find one.)
Reason: Daughter was born last month and we want to decorate her room with these.
Feel free to DM with offers. Will be able to move quickly on the right piece. Shipping would be to NYC.
Thanks!
: HF Passe. (Might consider Dancer if I can't find one.)
Reason: Daughter was born last month and we want to decorate her room with these.
Feel free to DM with offers. Will be able to move quickly on the right piece. Shipping would be to NYC.
Thanks!
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by WOOF on Aug 21, 2021 5:52:05 GMT 1, What’s the going rate for en pointe these days?
What’s the going rate for en pointe these days?
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by shitigator on Aug 21, 2021 19:24:40 GMT 1, What’s the going rate for en pointe these days?
Bought an HF En Pointe this AM for 5.5 £.
In other news, only looking for an HF Passe now.
What’s the going rate for en pointe these days? Bought an HF En Pointe this AM for 5.5 £. In other news, only looking for an HF Passe now. |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by met on Aug 22, 2021 20:52:38 GMT 1, : Passe & En Pointe. (Might consider Dancer if I can't find one or the other.) Reason: Daughter was born last month and we want to decorate her room with these prints. Feel free to DM with offers. Will be able to move quickly on the right prints. Shipping would be to NYC. Thanks!
What’s the going rate for en pointe these days? In other news, only looking for an HF Passe now.
A tip for anyone else interested in En Pointe by Martin Whatson:
If your budget is modest, note that dozens of snapshots of the actual model for the portrait are also available online. They can therefore be downloaded free of charge.
Notwithstanding Whatson's skills and his uncanny ability to capture likeness, I must admit having mixed feelings about this artwork, as well as the subject matter more generally.
During Michael Jackson's lifetime, the anthropomorphism that Bubbles was subject to always made me uncomfortable — forced to dress in human clothes and (at best) treated like a playmate, if not a photo-opportunity prop.
: Passe & En Pointe. (Might consider Dancer if I can't find one or the other.) Reason: Daughter was born last month and we want to decorate her room with these prints. Feel free to DM with offers. Will be able to move quickly on the right prints. Shipping would be to NYC. Thanks! What’s the going rate for en pointe these days? In other news, only looking for an HF Passe now. A tip for anyone else interested in En Pointe by Martin Whatson: If your budget is modest, note that dozens of snapshots of the actual model for the portrait are also available online. They can therefore be downloaded free of charge. Notwithstanding What son's skills and his uncanny ability to capture likeness, I must admit having mixed feelings about this artwork, as well as the subject matter more generally. During Michael Jackson's lifetime, the anthropomorphism that Bubbles was subject to always made me uncomfortable — forced to dress in human clothes and (at best) treated like a playmate, if not a photo-opportunity prop. |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by wf on Nov 16, 2021 10:15:35 GMT 1, Selling on behalf of a family member this beautiful Martin Whatson print Passe!
comes new never framed
price is £2800
pick up preferably London/Herts or postage in UK only after funds have cleared
Passe' by Martin Whatson, 2019
Main Edition
22 x 31.5 Inches
21-color screen print on 300gsm Somerset Satin fine art paper.
Limited Edition of 295
Signed and numbered by the artist with original COA.
Selling on behalf of a family member this beautiful Martin Whatson print Passe! comes new never framed price is £2800 pick up preferably London/Herts or postage in UK only after funds have cleared Passe' by Martin Whatson, 2019 Main Edition 22 x 31.5 Inches 21-color screen print on 300gsm Somerset Satin fine art paper. Limited Edition of 295 Signed and numbered by the artist with original COA. |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by wf on Nov 16, 2021 18:23:40 GMT 1, have now answered all enquiries and offers cheers!
have now answered all enquiries and offers cheers!
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Jimini Cricket on Nov 16, 2021 20:21:23 GMT 1, These just keep going up and up.
These just keep going up and up.
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wf
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by wf on Nov 17, 2021 2:57:27 GMT 1, These just keep going up and up.
These just keep going up and up. definitely seems that way probably because it’s a pretty wall friendly image and appeals to most. |
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by wf on Nov 17, 2021 15:23:19 GMT 1, getting allot of questions about price it’s set or very nearest offer.
cheers everyone
getting allot of questions about price it’s set or very nearest offer.
cheers everyone
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Judgement day on Nov 17, 2021 15:52:38 GMT 1, stunning, gutted i missed out on this print, by far my favourite of his, good luck with the sale
stunning, gutted i missed out on this print, by far my favourite of his, good luck with the sale
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wf
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by wf on Nov 17, 2021 22:25:39 GMT 1, stunning, gutted i missed out on this print, by far my favourite of his, good luck with the sale
stunning, gutted i missed out on this print, by far my favourite of his, good luck with the sale cheers mate much appreciated it’s still available at this point but allot of interest! |
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wf
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by wf on Nov 18, 2021 14:58:54 GMT 1, after a few have asked about if i could post i would prefer a face to face deal but would consider posting UK only if the right deal can be done.
after a few have asked about if i could post i would prefer a face to face deal but would consider posting UK only if the right deal can be done.
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by wf on Nov 19, 2021 11:00:37 GMT 1, this was on hold and now available again.
this was on hold and now available again.
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Martin Whatson - Passé, by Crisis As Usual on Nov 20, 2021 10:01:27 GMT 1, Lovely print and I’ve had a great experience buying from wf before. GLWTS!
Lovely print and I’ve had a great experience buying from wf before. GLWTS!
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