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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by LJCal on Mar 26, 2020 23:41:53 GMT 1, If youโd of told me 6 months ago Iโd be tracking the number of people dying from an infectious disease
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Mar 26, 2020 23:48:39 GMT 1, If youโd of told me 6 months ago Iโd be tracking the number of people dying from an infectious disease
Far too many world leaders "and" people on the street are not taking this serious enough
Stay away from each other it's the only way you'll be safe
If youโd of told me 6 months ago Iโd be tracking the number of people dying from an infectious disease Far too many world leaders "and" people on the street are not taking this serious enough Stay away from each other it's the only way you'll be safe |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by LJCal on Mar 27, 2020 0:01:43 GMT 1, Yes it is an interesting article, itโs largely informed by the Imperial study which Iโm not entirely convinced is sound given that several rebuttals are now starting to surface. I donโt for one minute think this is an easy call, itโs unprecedented. Clearly doing nothing is not an option Iโm just not all together convinced that the action taken to date is not prompted by panic and that we have put a lot of faith in the modelling of one paper without really weighing up the consequences of their recommendations or allowing proper scrutiny of their assumptions (which again are unprecedented). Part of me hopes Iโm right and the risks have been overstated however I also fear for the consequences if they have got this wrong. It will kill public faith in modern science. Clearly if things carry on indefinitely on their current trajectory it will be a disaster in line with the Spanish flu and then the actions to date are proportionate (if not lacking) but several opinions are emerging that show this in all likelihood is not the case. Anyway time will tell and I do sympathise with the people having to make these calls, despite the fact many of them are utters**ts. I think the best we can hope for is that things don't turn out to be as bad as some of the projections, and if that happens we will never know if it's because of the measures that have been taken, or if things wouldn't have been that bad anyway if we'd have done less. And while I agree that much of the action has been prompted by panic, and perhaps they have bended to public pressure in some way, I'm not sure that panicking and overreacting is such a bad thing in this situation. Putting faith in the modelling when the modelling is all that we have seems to be an understandable course of action. There is/was no time to delay and wait for better data to become available. For me the key thing seems to be the capacity of the health service. When the health service is swamped, a disease that has a low mortality rate such as this one suddenly becomes far more lethal as those who would otherwise recover become unable to access treatment. Even if the modelling is overly pessimistic by a factor of 10, that would be the reality. However things pan out, no doubt the powers-that-be will punish us for their 'generosity' during this time of need, and the love that is currently felt for minimum-wage supermarket heros and frontline NHS staff will be forgotten by many as we go back to our cushy office jobs. As the dust settles, the best thing that can come out of this would be for us to demand for a fairer and better society, but I fear that you're right that things will get much worse if we do not fight for it collectively.
Yes it is an interesting article, itโs largely informed by the Imperial study which Iโm not entirely convinced is sound given that several rebuttals are now starting to surface. I donโt for one minute think this is an easy call, itโs unprecedented. Clearly doing nothing is not an option Iโm just not all together convinced that the action taken to date is not prompted by panic and that we have put a lot of faith in the modelling of one paper without really weighing up the consequences of their recommendations or allowing proper scrutiny of their assumptions (which again are unprecedented). Part of me hopes Iโm right and the risks have been overstated however I also fear for the consequences if they have got this wrong. It will kill public faith in modern science. Clearly if things carry on indefinitely on their current trajectory it will be a disaster in line with the Spanish flu and then the actions to date are proportionate (if not lacking) but several opinions are emerging that show this in all likelihood is not the case. Anyway time will tell and I do sympathise with the people having to make these calls, despite the fact many of them are utters**ts. I think the best we can hope for is that things don't turn out to be as bad as some of the projections, and if that happens we will never know if it's because of the measures that have been taken, or if things wouldn't have been that bad anyway if we'd have done less. And while I agree that much of the action has been prompted by panic, and perhaps they have bended to public pressure in some way, I'm not sure that panicking and overreacting is such a bad thing in this situation. Putting faith in the modelling when the modelling is all that we have seems to be an understandable course of action. There is/was no time to delay and wait for better data to become available. For me the key thing seems to be the capacity of the health service. When the health service is swamped, a disease that has a low mortality rate such as this one suddenly becomes far more lethal as those who would otherwise recover become unable to access treatment. Even if the modelling is overly pessimistic by a factor of 10, that would be the reality. However things pan out, no doubt the powers-that-be will punish us for their 'generosity' during this time of need, and the love that is currently felt for minimum-wage supermarket heros and frontline NHS staff will be forgotten by many as we go back to our cushy office jobs. As the dust settles, the best thing that can come out of this would be for us to demand for a fairer and better society, but I fear that you're right that things will get much worse if we do not fight for it collectively. That is my biggest concern, that what is being dressed up as measures to protect the vulnerable will be used for a generation to fuck the most vulnerable and their children. Poor and vulnerable fair the worst during a recession and with our current political class I canโt help feeling they are leveraging this to achieve their economic and ideological goals. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Mar 27, 2020 0:04:37 GMT 1, 39 Health workers have now died in Italy since the outbreak began. The majority of those were infected during early stages in the north of the country when protective equipment was lacking, just as it STILL IS here in the UK. That's terrifying. I'm sick of hearing excuses every time any politician opens their mouth about where the hell the protective gear is that the NHS staff desperately needed 3 weeks ago. Emily Maitles absolutely destroyed Nadhim Zahawi (off shore tax avoider) on Newsnight yesterday, if you missed it its worth a look. Im really not down with this 'Lord' Dyson ventilator scam either ...ยฃjobsยฃ for the boys or should I say gentry.And I'm scared stupid of Handcocks 4000 capacity death camp at the excel centre. Just terrifying. They're all in it together link and have been for years. On a more positive note the NHS got a huge reception on the streets of Hackney. People out banging saucepans, whooping, clapping and singing their support tonight at 8, it was genuinely very moving. I just wish it made a difference to the NHS getting the proper support they desperately need and deserve.
Good doc on I.T.V now about your NHS staff
39 Health workers have now died in Italy since the outbreak began. The majority of those were infected during early stages in the north of the country when protective equipment was lacking, just as it STILL IS here in the UK. That's terrifying. I'm sick of hearing excuses every time any politician opens their mouth about where the hell the protective gear is that the NHS staff desperately needed 3 weeks ago. Emily Maitles absolutely destroyed Nadhim Zahawi (off shore tax avoider) on Newsnight yesterday, if you missed it its worth a look. Im really not down with this 'Lord' Dyson ventilator scam either ...ยฃjobsยฃ for the boys or should I say gentry.And I'm scared stupid of Handcocks 4000 capacity death camp at the excel centre. Just terrifying. They're all in it together link and have been for years. On a more positive note the NHS got a huge reception on the streets of Hackney. People out banging saucepans, whooping, clapping and singing their support tonight at 8, it was genuinely very moving. I just wish it made a difference to the NHS getting the proper support they desperately need and deserve. Good doc on I.T.V now about your NHS staff |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by pellets on Mar 27, 2020 0:05:05 GMT 1, I posted the link below a few days ago. Its shows traits of the first 196 C-19 patients admitted in the UK. Two thirds of them had a BMI over 25 (i.e. above โhealthyโ). I understand BMI is not a perfect health measure. But there is a link between increased weight and disease/unfavourable health outcomes (e.g. higher chance of having diabetes - one of the underlying heath issues which has been noted to contribute to complications from C-19).
There is a global issue with obesity with many countries having over 20% of the population with a BMI greater than 30. The US is the major western country with the highest rates of obesity and i wonder if this is going to have an impact on the outcomes of the C-19 pandemic. I.e. will there be a higher proportion of deaths from younger age groups in the US because of obesity and its related causes and consequences.
Ive tried to word that as carefully as i can cos im not trying to cause offence or be judgemental. Its just not something ive seen widely reported and i wonder if it will have an impact.
Here is the link I previously posted: www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/a9875849-f16c-ea11-9124-00505601089b
I posted the link below a few days ago. Its shows traits of the first 196 C-19 patients admitted in the UK. Two thirds of them had a BMI over 25 (i.e. above โhealthyโ). I understand BMI is not a perfect health measure. But there is a link between increased weight and disease/unfavourable health outcomes (e.g. higher chance of having diabetes - one of the underlying heath issues which has been noted to contribute to complications from C-19). There is a global issue with obesity with many countries having over 20% of the population with a BMI greater than 30. The US is the major western country with the highest rates of obesity and i wonder if this is going to have an impact on the outcomes of the C-19 pandemic. I.e. will there be a higher proportion of deaths from younger age groups in the US because of obesity and its related causes and consequences. Ive tried to word that as carefully as i can cos im not trying to cause offence or be judgemental. Its just not something ive seen widely reported and i wonder if it will have an impact. Here is the link I previously posted: www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/a9875849-f16c-ea11-9124-00505601089b |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Poster Bob on Mar 27, 2020 1:29:31 GMT 1, I think you be failed in your attempt. Tess Holiday has already referred you for a hate crime. Nice knowing you Brosef.
I posted the link below a few days ago. Its shows traits of the first 196 C-19 patients admitted in the UK. Two thirds of them had a BMI over 25 (i.e. above โhealthyโ). I understand BMI is not a perfect health measure. But there is a link between increased weight and disease/unfavourable health outcomes (e.g. higher chance of having diabetes - one of the underlying heath issues which has been noted to contribute to complications from C-19). There is a global issue with obesity with many countries having over 20% of the population with a BMI greater than 30. The US is the major western country with the highest rates of obesity and i wonder if this is going to have an impact on the outcomes of the C-19 pandemic. I.e. will there be a higher proportion of deaths from younger age groups in the US because of obesity and its related causes and consequences. Ive tried to word that as carefully as i can cos im not trying to cause offence or be judgemental. Its just not something ive seen widely reported and i wonder if it will have an impact. Here is the link I previously posted: www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/a9875849-f16c-ea11-9124-00505601089b
I think you be failed in your attempt. Tess Holiday has already referred you for a hate crime. Nice knowing you Brosef. I posted the link below a few days ago. Its shows traits of the first 196 C-19 patients admitted in the UK. Two thirds of them had a BMI over 25 (i.e. above โhealthyโ). I understand BMI is not a perfect health measure. But there is a link between increased weight and disease/unfavourable health outcomes (e.g. higher chance of having diabetes - one of the underlying heath issues which has been noted to contribute to complications from C-19). There is a global issue with obesity with many countries having over 20% of the population with a BMI greater than 30. The US is the major western country with the highest rates of obesity and i wonder if this is going to have an impact on the outcomes of the C-19 pandemic. I.e. will there be a higher proportion of deaths from younger age groups in the US because of obesity and its related causes and consequences. Ive tried to word that as carefully as i can cos im not trying to cause offence or be judgemental. Its just not something ive seen widely reported and i wonder if it will have an impact. Here is the link I previously posted: www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/a9875849-f16c-ea11-9124-00505601089b |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by jimmyjam on Mar 27, 2020 3:43:57 GMT 1, And here we go... America is number 1. We all knew it was going to happen. Be safe out there.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mw on Mar 27, 2020 8:22:06 GMT 1,
My other half is A GP and has got her PPE from-
1. Screwfix.
2. Some generous construction workers handing in face masks.
Whilst she may not be on the very front line, yet, she is dealing with all the old and vulnerable and needs to protect them which in turn will protect the hospitals.
However, as the hospitals start chucking out the sick, including those dying of C19, she will require proper PPE. Once this is all over the truth will materialise about how well the Torys did.
Having said this, thank f@#& we don't live in America with Trump leading the way, what a c@#&.
My other half is A GP and has got her PPE from-
1. Screwfix.
2. Some generous construction workers handing in face masks.
Whilst she may not be on the very front line, yet, she is dealing with all the old and vulnerable and needs to protect them which in turn will protect the hospitals.
However, as the hospitals start chucking out the sick, including those dying of C19, she will require proper PPE. Once this is all over the truth will materialise about how well the Torys did.
Having said this, thank f@#& we don't live in America with Trump leading the way, what a c@#&.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by pellets on Mar 27, 2020 10:20:30 GMT 1, I think you be failed in your attempt. Tess Holiday has already referred you for a hate crime. Nice knowing you Brosef. I posted the link below a few days ago. Its shows traits of the first 196 C-19 patients admitted in the UK. Two thirds of them had a BMI over 25 (i.e. above โhealthyโ). I understand BMI is not a perfect health measure. But there is a link between increased weight and disease/unfavourable health outcomes (e.g. higher chance of having diabetes - one of the underlying heath issues which has been noted to contribute to complications from C-19). There is a global issue with obesity with many countries having over 20% of the population with a BMI greater than 30. The US is the major western country with the highest rates of obesity and i wonder if this is going to have an impact on the outcomes of the C-19 pandemic. I.e. will there be a higher proportion of deaths from younger age groups in the US because of obesity and its related causes and consequences. Ive tried to word that as carefully as i can cos im not trying to cause offence or be judgemental. Its just not something ive seen widely reported and i wonder if it will have an impact. Here is the link I previously posted: www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/a9875849-f16c-ea11-9124-00505601089b
Had to google what a Tess Holiday is. Hope she stays safe during these troubling times.
I think you be failed in your attempt. Tess Holiday has already referred you for a hate crime. Nice knowing you Brosef. I posted the link below a few days ago. Its shows traits of the first 196 C-19 patients admitted in the UK. Two thirds of them had a BMI over 25 (i.e. above โhealthyโ). I understand BMI is not a perfect health measure. But there is a link between increased weight and disease/unfavourable health outcomes (e.g. higher chance of having diabetes - one of the underlying heath issues which has been noted to contribute to complications from C-19). There is a global issue with obesity with many countries having over 20% of the population with a BMI greater than 30. The US is the major western country with the highest rates of obesity and i wonder if this is going to have an impact on the outcomes of the C-19 pandemic. I.e. will there be a higher proportion of deaths from younger age groups in the US because of obesity and its related causes and consequences. Ive tried to word that as carefully as i can cos im not trying to cause offence or be judgemental. Its just not something ive seen widely reported and i wonder if it will have an impact. Here is the link I previously posted: www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/a9875849-f16c-ea11-9124-00505601089bHad to google what a Tess Holiday is. Hope she stays safe during these troubling times. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 27, 2020 10:31:17 GMT 1, Are all countries using the same type of testing / standards
Are all countries using the same type of testing / standards
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Mar 27, 2020 11:56:20 GMT 1, That's terrifying. I'm sick of hearing excuses every time any politician opens their mouth about where the hell the protective gear is that the NHS staff desperately needed 3 weeks ago. Emily Maitles absolutely destroyed Nadhim Zahawi (off shore tax avoider) on Newsnight yesterday, if you missed it its worth a look. Im really not down with this 'Lord' Dyson ventilator scam either ...ยฃjobsยฃ for the boys or should I say gentry.And I'm scared stupid of Handcocks 4000 capacity death camp at the excel centre. Just terrifying. They're all in it together link and have been for years. On a more positive note the NHS got a huge reception on the streets of Hackney. People out banging saucepans, whooping, clapping and singing their support tonight at 8, it was genuinely very moving. I just wish it made a difference to the NHS getting the proper support they desperately need and deserve. You say you are 'terrified' that NHS staff do not have enough equipment and then you go on to lambast Lord Dyson for offering to produce ventilators. You can't have it both ways.
That's terrifying. I'm sick of hearing excuses every time any politician opens their mouth about where the hell the protective gear is that the NHS staff desperately needed 3 weeks ago. Emily Maitles absolutely destroyed Nadhim Zahawi (off shore tax avoider) on Newsnight yesterday, if you missed it its worth a look. Im really not down with this 'Lord' Dyson ventilator scam either ...ยฃjobsยฃ for the boys or should I say gentry.And I'm scared stupid of Handcocks 4000 capacity death camp at the excel centre. Just terrifying. They're all in it together link and have been for years. On a more positive note the NHS got a huge reception on the streets of Hackney. People out banging saucepans, whooping, clapping and singing their support tonight at 8, it was genuinely very moving. I just wish it made a difference to the NHS getting the proper support they desperately need and deserve. You say you are 'terrified' that NHS staff do not have enough equipment and then you go on to lambast Lord Dyson for offering to produce ventilators. You can't have it both ways. From the evidence I've seen on Newsnight, Question Time, Andrew Marr et al the government are over riding the current reliable and all ready in production producers of ventilators, lets call them the experts, in favour of 'keeping it in house' and giving the contract to Lord Dyson. The experts, many with over 35 years experience of making ventilators are baffled and frustrated as they were offering to go into mass production 6/8 weeks ago. The UK has also turned down assistance from the EU to source ventilators putting their warped ideology above saving peoples lives, Germany appears to have successfully procured 1000's of ventilators on mass and are already in place. Bare in mind our government has only just dropped their weird idea of 'herd immunity' whereby 60% of the populace become infected like some kind of weird on mass 1970's chicken pox party. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Poster Bob on Mar 27, 2020 12:03:18 GMT 1, And here we go... America is number 1. We all knew it was going to happen. Be safe out there. You have to be careful with such data. The number of cases is clearly dependant on how any people you test. Test very few people in a population and the number of cases will inevitably be low. The only data really worth noting is the number of deaths.
Uh, you have to be careful with such data. You've failed to note that the number of deaths is a function of population, current prevalence, incidence, age-specific and comorbidity-specifc mortality, test availability and testing.
And here we go... America is number 1. We all knew it was going to happen. Be safe out there. You have to be careful with such data. The number of cases is clearly dependant on how any people you test. Test very few people in a population and the number of cases will inevitably be low. The only data really worth noting is the number of deaths. Uh, you have to be careful with such data. You've failed to note that the number of deaths is a function of population, current prevalence, incidence, age-specific and comorbidity-specifc mortality, test availability and testing. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Mar 27, 2020 12:23:55 GMT 1, Johnson has just tested positive for Coronavirus. Perhaps now the 1.3million NHS workers can get a test?
Johnson has just tested positive for Coronavirus. Perhaps now the 1.3million NHS workers can get a test?
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Mar 27, 2020 12:29:46 GMT 1, Johnson has just tested positive for Coronavirus. Perhaps now the 1.3million NHS workers can get a test?
Yeh just seen that it's all over the news.
Johnson has just tested positive for Coronavirus. Perhaps now the 1.3million NHS workers can get a test? Yeh just seen that it's all over the news. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Mar 27, 2020 12:32:48 GMT 1, Johnson has just tested positive for Coronavirus. Perhaps now the 1.3million NHS workers can get a test? Yeh just seen that it's all over the news.
Johnson has just tested positive for Coronavirus. Perhaps now the 1.3million NHS workers can get a test? Yeh just seen that it's all over the news. Hey irl1 Im afraid I have far more concern for the health of our NHS workers than our excuse of a prime minister. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Leo Boyd on Mar 27, 2020 12:36:50 GMT 1, This is rather good
This is rather good
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Leo Boyd on Mar 27, 2020 12:39:22 GMT 1, Yeh just seen that it's all over the news. Hey irl1 Im afraid I have far more concern for the health of our NHS workers than our excuse of a prime minister.
Boris having corona will just cover up all their very shit decisions.
Yeh just seen that it's all over the news. Hey irl1 Im afraid I have far more concern for the health of our NHS workers than our excuse of a prime minister. Yeah they are just going to play the sympathy one with this. Boris having corona will just cover up all their very shit decisions. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Mar 27, 2020 12:50:24 GMT 1, Yeh just seen that it's all over the news. Hey irl1 Im afraid I have far more concern about the health of the NHS workers than our excuse of a prime minister.
It's amazing how many people are still going about their normal day without a care in the world.
Were lucky enough that we live out in the countryside. My gates are locked and i have a big sign up with my phone number on it so nobody is getting near any of us.
The sun is out kids out studying in the back garden and i'm doing a bit around the house so all well here 
Yeh just seen that it's all over the news. Hey irl1 Im afraid I have far more concern about the health of the NHS workers than our excuse of a prime minister. Yeh i watched that programme last night your heart would go out to them. Hope your doing well. It's amazing how many people are still going about their normal day without a care in the world. Were lucky enough that we live out in the countryside. My gates are locked and i have a big sign up with my phone number on it so nobody is getting near any of us. The sun is out kids out studying in the back garden and i'm doing a bit around the house so all well here |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 27, 2020 12:55:17 GMT 1, All this testing on humans
Have they tested to see if it can be passed to out pets ,wildstock ? Farming industry
All this testing on humans
Have they tested to see if it can be passed to out pets ,wildstock ? Farming industry
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Swishhh on Mar 27, 2020 13:13:25 GMT 1, All this testing on humans Have they tested to see if it can be passed to out pets ,wildstock ? Farming industry
Factory farming may be the best breeding ground for a virus like this.
This is a huge problem that is not being reported enough, and certainly nowhere near the amount of testing equipment available to test humans or animals 
All this testing on humans Have they tested to see if it can be passed to out pets ,wildstock ? Farming industry Unfortunately the disease is zoonotic so pets like dogs and cats can get it. Factory farming may be the best breeding ground for a virus like this. This is a huge problem that is not being reported enough, and certainly nowhere near the amount of testing equipment available to test humans or animals |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by wrigs on Mar 27, 2020 13:36:14 GMT 1, All this testing on humans Have they tested to see if it can be passed to out pets ,wildstock ? Farming industry Unfortunately the disease is zoonotic so pets like dogs and cats can get it. Factory farming may be the best breeding ground for a virus like this. This is a huge problem that is not being reported enough, and certainly nowhere near the amount of testing equipment available to test humans or animals
There is no evidence that it can jump to cats or dogs
All this testing on humans Have they tested to see if it can be passed to out pets ,wildstock ? Farming industry Unfortunately the disease is zoonotic so pets like dogs and cats can get it. Factory farming may be the best breeding ground for a virus like this. This is a huge problem that is not being reported enough, and certainly nowhere near the amount of testing equipment available to test humans or animals There is no evidence that it can jump to cats or dogs |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Swishhh on Mar 27, 2020 13:40:12 GMT 1, Unfortunately the disease is zoonotic so pets like dogs and cats can get it. Factory farming may be the best breeding ground for a virus like this. This is a huge problem that is not being reported enough, and certainly nowhere near the amount of testing equipment available to test humans or animals There is no evidence that it can jump to cats or dogs
You may recall the picture of the bat soup, or early reports it came from snakes or a specific fish market in Wuhan. They can't trace it exactly, but they do know it is zoonotic and likely came from an animal like a bat or pangolin.
nypost.com/2020/03/17/first-dog-to-test-positive-for-coronavirus-has-died-in-hong-kong/
http://instagr.am/p/B-CS7QrpNfm
Unfortunately the disease is zoonotic so pets like dogs and cats can get it. Factory farming may be the best breeding ground for a virus like this. This is a huge problem that is not being reported enough, and certainly nowhere near the amount of testing equipment available to test humans or animals There is no evidence that it can jump to cats or dogs I know this unfortunate to hear, but it is reality. You may recall the picture of the bat soup, or early reports it came from snakes or a specific fish market in Wuhan. They can't trace it exactly, but they do know it is zoonotic and likely came from an animal like a bat or pangolin. nypost.com/2020/03/17/first-dog-to-test-positive-for-coronavirus-has-died-in-hong-kong/http://instagr.am/p/B-CS7QrpNfm |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Mar 27, 2020 13:58:29 GMT 1, I was reading a great book called 'what if?' where a scientist and artist responds to hypothetical science questions, this response was quite interesting in the current situation
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urbanwear
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by urbanwear on Mar 27, 2020 14:02:10 GMT 1, Stay safe, everyone.
Stay safe, everyone.
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Poster Bob
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Poster Bob on Mar 27, 2020 14:07:25 GMT 1, A quick Google search says that there is no evidence that Covid-19 can jump to or from cats and dogs. Initial reports of it doing so were the result of a weak positive of an elderly dog that died. An autopsy was not performed to determine the cause of death. The price of misinformation is high. Be responsible.
www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/animals.html
A quick Google search says that there is no evidence that Covid-19 can jump to or from cats and dogs. Initial reports of it doing so were the result of a weak positive of an elderly dog that died. An autopsy was not performed to determine the cause of death. The price of misinformation is high. Be responsible. www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/animals.html |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by jimmyjam on Mar 27, 2020 14:08:42 GMT 1,
You have to be careful with such data. The number of cases is clearly dependant on how any people you test. Test very few people in a population and the number of cases will inevitably be low. The only data really worth noting is the number of deaths. Uh, you have to be careful with such data. You've failed to note that the number of deaths is a function of population, current prevalence, incidence, age-specific and comorbidity-specifc mortality, test availability and testing.
Sure, not everyone has been tested around the world but this the best data we have until other countries start testing.
Hereโs the New York Times explaining it in simple English for you. Confirmed cases that is it.
You have to be careful with such data. The number of cases is clearly dependant on how any people you test. Test very few people in a population and the number of cases will inevitably be low. The only data really worth noting is the number of deaths. Uh, you have to be careful with such data. You've failed to note that the number of deaths is a function of population, current prevalence, incidence, age-specific and comorbidity-specifc mortality, test availability and testing. uh, people are now trying to argue with data charts. Yes, itโs confirmed cases. Anyone themselves can go to this site and clearly see that. Donโt need a explanation about it. . Sure, not everyone has been tested around the world but this the best data we have until other countries start testing. Hereโs the New York Times explaining it in simple English for you. Confirmed cases that is it. |
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