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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by brycepen on Apr 18, 2020 15:49:08 GMT 1, Hahahaha, are Chinese trolls now even desperate enough to come to UAA? Or are you just that thick. As discussed during today’s US Coronavirus press briefing, Dr. Fauci, the well respected head of the NIH, spoke about a new publication soon to be released by a team of evolutionary biologists. They looked at the genetic sequencing from SARS and compared it to SARS2/COVID-19, analyzing how likely the development of SARS2 was due to the natural genetic mutation of SARS in bats, invivo. Fauci’s summary of the analysis: “The number and sequence of favorable mutations required to go from one virus to the other would the equivalent of what it would take for a bat to evolve into a human being.” In other words, there is literally no chance in hell that this virus is “natural.” I’m not questioning the intelligence of any scientists that take the alternative stance and say it wasn’t man made. I’m sure they are intelligent enough to know that it’s in their best interest not to go up against the the Chinese government. I sincerely doubt that a single one of them believes this virus emerged from natural and spontaneous genetic mutations. A little bit of knowledge is more dangerous than none. br] Who thick now huh?
Uh, maybe you shouldn’t rely on business insider to gain an understanding of how basic science works. He was referring to the evolution of bats, not the evolution of the virus. Unless he misspoke.
Hahahaha, are Chinese trolls now even desperate enough to come to UAA? Or are you just that thick. As discussed during today’s US Coronavirus press briefing, Dr. Fauci, the well respected head of the NIH, spoke about a new publication soon to be released by a team of evolutionary biologists. They looked at the genetic sequencing from SARS and compared it to SARS2/COVID-19, analyzing how likely the development of SARS2 was due to the natural genetic mutation of SARS in bats, invivo. Fauci’s summary of the analysis: “The number and sequence of favorable mutations required to go from one virus to the other would the equivalent of what it would take for a bat to evolve into a human being.” In other words, there is literally no chance in hell that this virus is “natural.” I’m not questioning the intelligence of any scientists that take the alternative stance and say it wasn’t man made. I’m sure they are intelligent enough to know that it’s in their best interest not to go up against the the Chinese government. I sincerely doubt that a single one of them believes this virus emerged from natural and spontaneous genetic mutations. A little bit of knowledge is more dangerous than none. br] Who thick now huh? Uh, maybe you shouldn’t rely on business insider to gain an understanding of how basic science works. He was referring to the evolution of bats, not the evolution of the virus. Unless he misspoke. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Daylight Robber on Apr 18, 2020 15:58:51 GMT 1, A vaccine is the hope and theoretical cure but it is not guaranteed one can be successfully developed yet , Many other diseases , viruses out there with hundreds of billions Of usd of Research Spent over the decades and no nearer to a cure or Successful vaccinations developed and a completely new virus with no previous research and a cure can be developed in two years? Can we turn these scientists over to hiv And cancer research after Even the Ebola virus recently scientists had old research from an outbreak decades previously to work on hence the quick developments
The team which developed a vaccine for MERS are 80% sure they'll have a vaccine for this by September. They've been 'researching' this virus since before it was discovered. They know enough about similar viruses to adapt their work.
They have already established that it is both slow and subtle in mutation. They're fairly confident that a vaccine will be a single shot for life, or with boosters years apart. It's not like the flu where a new vaccination is required each season.
A vaccine is the hope and theoretical cure but it is not guaranteed one can be successfully developed yet , Many other diseases , viruses out there with hundreds of billions Of usd of Research Spent over the decades and no nearer to a cure or Successful vaccinations developed and a completely new virus with no previous research and a cure can be developed in two years? Can we turn these scientists over to hiv And cancer research after Even the Ebola virus recently scientists had old research from an outbreak decades previously to work on hence the quick developments The team which developed a vaccine for MERS are 80% sure they'll have a vaccine for this by September. They've been 'researching' this virus since before it was discovered. They know enough about similar viruses to adapt their work. They have already established that it is both slow and subtle in mutation. They're fairly confident that a vaccine will be a single shot for life, or with boosters years apart. It's not like the flu where a new vaccination is required each season. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Deleted on Apr 18, 2020 16:06:20 GMT 1, A vaccine is the hope and theoretical cure but it is not guaranteed one can be successfully developed yet , Many other diseases , viruses out there with hundreds of billions Of usd of Research Spent over the decades and no nearer to a cure or Successful vaccinations developed and a completely new virus with no previous research and a cure can be developed in two years? Can we turn these scientists over to hiv And cancer research after Even the Ebola virus recently scientists had old research from an outbreak decades previously to work on hence the quick developments The team which developed a vaccine for SARS are 80% sure they'll have a vaccine for this by September. They've been 'researching' this virus since before it was discovered. They know enough about similar viruses to adapt their work. They have already established that it is both slow and subtle in mutation. They're fairly confident that a vaccine will be a single shot for life, or with boosters years apart. It's not like the flu where a new vaccination is required each season.
Can you add links for this info please?
A vaccine is the hope and theoretical cure but it is not guaranteed one can be successfully developed yet , Many other diseases , viruses out there with hundreds of billions Of usd of Research Spent over the decades and no nearer to a cure or Successful vaccinations developed and a completely new virus with no previous research and a cure can be developed in two years? Can we turn these scientists over to hiv And cancer research after Even the Ebola virus recently scientists had old research from an outbreak decades previously to work on hence the quick developments The team which developed a vaccine for SARS are 80% sure they'll have a vaccine for this by September. They've been 'researching' this virus since before it was discovered. They know enough about similar viruses to adapt their work. They have already established that it is both slow and subtle in mutation. They're fairly confident that a vaccine will be a single shot for life, or with boosters years apart. It's not like the flu where a new vaccination is required each season. Can you add links for this info please? |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Daylight Robber on Apr 18, 2020 16:10:01 GMT 1, The team which developed a vaccine for SARS are 80% sure they'll have a vaccine for this by September. They've been 'researching' this virus since before it was discovered. They know enough about similar viruses to adapt their work. They have already established that it is both slow and subtle in mutation. They're fairly confident that a vaccine will be a single shot for life, or with boosters years apart. It's not like the flu where a new vaccination is required each season. Can you add links for this info please?
I posted them earlier in the thread. I posted snippets from a newsletter recieved from Queens College Oxford a couple of weeks ago. The info was backed up by a BBC news article published yesterday.
The team which developed a vaccine for SARS are 80% sure they'll have a vaccine for this by September. They've been 'researching' this virus since before it was discovered. They know enough about similar viruses to adapt their work. They have already established that it is both slow and subtle in mutation. They're fairly confident that a vaccine will be a single shot for life, or with boosters years apart. It's not like the flu where a new vaccination is required each season. Can you add links for this info please? I posted them earlier in the thread. I posted snippets from a newsletter recieved from Queens College Oxford a couple of weeks ago. The info was backed up by a BBC news article published yesterday. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by wrigs on Apr 18, 2020 16:21:51 GMT 1, A little bit of knowledge is more dangerous than none. br] Who thick now huh? Uh, maybe you shouldn’t rely on business insider to gain an understanding of how basic science works. He was referring to the evolution of bats, not the evolution of the virus. Unless he misspoke.
Funny how people hear what they want to hear. His quote was;
"A group of highly-qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences in bats as they evolve. The mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human," Fauci said at the daily White House press briefing in response to a question from a reporter on the theory.
How have you derived it’s man made from this comment?
A little bit of knowledge is more dangerous than none. br] Who thick now huh? Uh, maybe you shouldn’t rely on business insider to gain an understanding of how basic science works. He was referring to the evolution of bats, not the evolution of the virus. Unless he misspoke. Funny how people hear what they want to hear. His quote was; "A group of highly-qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences in bats as they evolve. The mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human," Fauci said at the daily White House press briefing in response to a question from a reporter on the theory. How have you derived it’s man made from this comment? |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mw on Apr 18, 2020 16:39:27 GMT 1, So, those that think Covid19 is man made, do you think the same of SARS, MERS, EBOLA, HIV.....?? In respect of the vaccine, once the old and vulnerable are immunised, we won't need anything near 100% take up to stop community spread. Those who don't will hopefully only be detrimental to themselves. At the present moment With research carried out so far once infected This does not mean your immune to reinfection A few world government scientists and who have made this statement. By the time a vaccine comes round there will be mutations in the virus , the vaccine developed with short cuts taken would had been developed 2-5 years prior on a different strain , would this vaccine have the same effects years later on a different : mutated strain? Anything developed now would slow down the infection rates but not eradicate the whole virus , the whole world is still working separately and dealing with the pandemic differently to each other
Your right, WHO said day or so ago infection doesn't automatically mean immunity. Too early to categorically say yet. Seen on medical forums Drs in UK are questioning accuracy of our testing with lots of false negatives being reported. May be poor swabs being taken but doesn't sound good. Maybe this is why WHO is advising 3 tests are needed to prove negative.
Vaccine effectiveness to a mutated virus should hopefully be like the flu vaccine in that it's a relatively simple tweak each year to envelope different strains.
So, those that think Covid19 is man made, do you think the same of SARS, MERS, EBOLA, HIV.....?? In respect of the vaccine, once the old and vulnerable are immunised, we won't need anything near 100% take up to stop community spread. Those who don't will hopefully only be detrimental to themselves. At the present moment With research carried out so far once infected This does not mean your immune to reinfection A few world government scientists and who have made this statement. By the time a vaccine comes round there will be mutations in the virus , the vaccine developed with short cuts taken would had been developed 2-5 years prior on a different strain , would this vaccine have the same effects years later on a different : mutated strain? Anything developed now would slow down the infection rates but not eradicate the whole virus , the whole world is still working separately and dealing with the pandemic differently to each other Your right, WHO said day or so ago infection doesn't automatically mean immunity. Too early to categorically say yet. Seen on medical forums Drs in UK are questioning accuracy of our testing with lots of false negatives being reported. May be poor swabs being taken but doesn't sound good. Maybe this is why WHO is advising 3 tests are needed to prove negative. Vaccine effectiveness to a mutated virus should hopefully be like the flu vaccine in that it's a relatively simple tweak each year to envelope different strains. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mw on Apr 18, 2020 16:42:23 GMT 1, Someone in this conversation is sucking heavily on the MAGA man-boob kool-aid.
What that? Sorry, I'm thick.
Someone in this conversation is sucking heavily on the MAGA man-boob kool-aid. What that? Sorry, I'm thick. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mw on Apr 18, 2020 16:44:26 GMT 1, Not sure where to post this, but this seemed as appropriate as anywhere. Souled Out studios are raffling of some small Whatson originals to raise money to support charities that provide food for front line workers, 100% of money raised goes to the charities. link www.souledoutstudios.com/product/hand-painted-cards-by-martin-whatson-100-going-to-our-nurses-and-frontline-medics/We have 19 hand painted cards by Martin Whatson....all are unique, hand painted and signed on the reverse. With all £2 ticket donations going directly to three small charities helping feed and look after our frontline nurses and workers. Each £2 ticket will be entered into the hat and the winning draw will be hosted this Sunday live on the instanet at 4pm UK time so theres no cheatin! You can buy as many tickets as you like (£10 = 5 tickets...)  Nice gesture but you would have thought could of donated an original edition like so many others Have would attract many more to the cause
I think these are all hands painted postcards.
Not sure where to post this, but this seemed as appropriate as anywhere. Souled Out studios are raffling of some small Whatson originals to raise money to support charities that provide food for front line workers, 100% of money raised goes to the charities. link www.souledoutstudios.com/product/hand-painted-cards-by-martin-whatson-100-going-to-our-nurses-and-frontline-medics/We have 19 hand painted cards by Martin Whatson....all are unique, hand painted and signed on the reverse. With all £2 ticket donations going directly to three small charities helping feed and look after our frontline nurses and workers. Each £2 ticket will be entered into the hat and the winning draw will be hosted this Sunday live on the instanet at 4pm UK time so theres no cheatin! You can buy as many tickets as you like (£10 = 5 tickets...) Nice gesture but you would have thought could of donated an original edition like so many others Have would attract many more to the cause I think these are all hands painted postcards. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mark1 on Apr 18, 2020 16:50:25 GMT 1, Nice gesture but you would have thought could of donated an original edition like so many others Have would attract many more to the cause I think these are all hands painted postcards.
Yes they are mate or may I call you Martin 😉🤷🏻♂️
Nice gesture but you would have thought could of donated an original edition like so many others Have would attract many more to the cause I think these are all hands painted postcards. Yes they are mate or may I call you Martin 😉🤷🏻♂️ |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mw on Apr 18, 2020 16:51:41 GMT 1, I think these are all hands painted postcards. Yes they are mate or may I call you Martin 😉🤷🏻♂️
Rumbled... Bollox
I think these are all hands painted postcards. Yes they are mate or may I call you Martin 😉🤷🏻♂️ Rumbled... Bollox |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 18, 2020 16:57:20 GMT 1, At the present moment With research carried out so far once infected This does not mean your immune to reinfection A few world government scientists and who have made this statement. By the time a vaccine comes round there will be mutations in the virus , the vaccine developed with short cuts taken would had been developed 2-5 years prior on a different strain , would this vaccine have the same effects years later on a different : mutated strain? Anything developed now would slow down the infection rates but not eradicate the whole virus , the whole world is still working separately and dealing with the pandemic differently to each other Your right, WHO said day or so ago infection doesn't automatically mean immunity. Too early to categorically say yet. Seen on medical forums Drs in UK are questioning accuracy of our testing with lots of false negatives being reported. May be poor swabs being taken but doesn't sound good. Maybe this is why WHO is advising 3 tests are needed to prove negative. Vaccine effectiveness to a mutated virus should hopefully be like the flu vaccine in that it's a relatively simple tweak each year to envelope different strains.
I Read research papers on validity of tests and other sources questioning the accuracy , if the uk goes forward with these tests to get people back to work would just potentially explode a new wave of infections .
All actions need to be the correct Responses from the start now .
Really strange and difficult times ahead
At the present moment With research carried out so far once infected This does not mean your immune to reinfection A few world government scientists and who have made this statement. By the time a vaccine comes round there will be mutations in the virus , the vaccine developed with short cuts taken would had been developed 2-5 years prior on a different strain , would this vaccine have the same effects years later on a different : mutated strain? Anything developed now would slow down the infection rates but not eradicate the whole virus , the whole world is still working separately and dealing with the pandemic differently to each other Your right, WHO said day or so ago infection doesn't automatically mean immunity. Too early to categorically say yet. Seen on medical forums Drs in UK are questioning accuracy of our testing with lots of false negatives being reported. May be poor swabs being taken but doesn't sound good. Maybe this is why WHO is advising 3 tests are needed to prove negative. Vaccine effectiveness to a mutated virus should hopefully be like the flu vaccine in that it's a relatively simple tweak each year to envelope different strains. I Read research papers on validity of tests and other sources questioning the accuracy , if the uk goes forward with these tests to get people back to work would just potentially explode a new wave of infections . All actions need to be the correct Responses from the start now . Really strange and difficult times ahead |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 18, 2020 16:58:30 GMT 1, Nice gesture but you would have thought could of donated an original edition like so many others Have would attract many more to the cause I think these are all hands painted postcards.
Cut down from one single piece ?
Nice gesture but you would have thought could of donated an original edition like so many others Have would attract many more to the cause I think these are all hands painted postcards. Cut down from one single piece ? |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mark1 on Apr 18, 2020 17:02:26 GMT 1, I think these are all hands painted postcards. Cut down from one single piece ?
dont think so as no 2 pieces join, thought I would try and failed miserably but there is a original climber being auctioned on the bay for charity
I think these are all hands painted postcards. Cut down from one single piece ? dont think so as no 2 pieces join, thought I would try and failed miserably but there is a original climber being auctioned on the bay for charity |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 18, 2020 17:10:24 GMT 1, The ppe issue , Spain has used its army to manufacture medicines and ppe
Can the uk not do this whilst waiting on global suppliers to temporary fill the gap ?
All these supplies were supposed to be stocked as emergency supplies which watching the news the unions and medical representatives are not aware of these documents that the government have that had preplanned for these events and emergency options should of been set in place .
Mentioned previously medical unions have advised staff if they feel they are compromised In safety not to work.
Some staff are fearful and have or will stop working .
If staff numbers fall as of infection and deaths this will effect all Medical care And procedures in The nhs and have a delayed effect when the vaccine is available .
The ppe is the only support in the front line at the moment , with these not supplied numbers will be not held to support the icu units , regardless of how many extra ventilators without the specialist staff they are useless.
Plus the greatest spread are from these wards , still surprised no advice for the public to use masks
The ppe issue , Spain has used its army to manufacture medicines and ppe
Can the uk not do this whilst waiting on global suppliers to temporary fill the gap ?
All these supplies were supposed to be stocked as emergency supplies which watching the news the unions and medical representatives are not aware of these documents that the government have that had preplanned for these events and emergency options should of been set in place .
Mentioned previously medical unions have advised staff if they feel they are compromised In safety not to work.
Some staff are fearful and have or will stop working .
If staff numbers fall as of infection and deaths this will effect all Medical care And procedures in The nhs and have a delayed effect when the vaccine is available .
The ppe is the only support in the front line at the moment , with these not supplied numbers will be not held to support the icu units , regardless of how many extra ventilators without the specialist staff they are useless.
Plus the greatest spread are from these wards , still surprised no advice for the public to use masks
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mw on Apr 18, 2020 17:42:25 GMT 1,
Things are changing,probably due to our lack of tests. Covid19 can now be put as cause of death without testing if reasonably suspected. There is now limited testing in nursing homes but once cases have been confirmed no more testing is done in that home as deaths with known symptoms are almost certain to be covid19.
This also applies if someone has tested negative yet dies with all the right symptoms for it to be Covid19.
Things are changing,probably due to our lack of tests. Covid19 can now be put as cause of death without testing if reasonably suspected. There is now limited testing in nursing homes but once cases have been confirmed no more testing is done in that home as deaths with known symptoms are almost certain to be covid19. This also applies if someone has tested negative yet dies with all the right symptoms for it to be Covid19. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by dotdot on Apr 18, 2020 18:07:17 GMT 1, still think social distancing to be a bit of story - what say you ?
source : pe
still think social distancing to be a bit of story - what say you ? source : pe |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Apr 18, 2020 18:12:35 GMT 1, If we were given the true numbers then people would take this more serious.
There are still people going about their business like noting is happening.
Just look at the protests in some countries against the stay at home rules ........ MADNESS
If we were given the true numbers then people would take this more serious. There are still people going about their business like noting is happening. Just look at the protests in some countries against the stay at home rules ........ MADNESS |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 18, 2020 18:34:30 GMT 1, If we were given the true numbers then people would take this more serious. There are still people going about their business like noting is happening. Just look at the protests in some countries against the stay at home rules ........ MADNESS
much of what is being discussed now in the media I mentioned weeks ago but as you say many do not take this seriously and you end up sounding like a conspiracy theorist although trying to provide factual evidence
The way information is released globally is purposeful to avoid civil disturbances And disorder, any national level of disorder no country would be able to control.
If the government with all the information they know and said from the beginning 6 months isolation restrictions instead of the rolling 3 week reviews , what reaction would the population have and would order still be had the same way ?
Real figures many would not be able to comprehend and many would suffer anxiety and mental health issues , there is even government guidance on release of Specific risk information in times like these and effects on the population and how it should be disclosed
If we were given the true numbers then people would take this more serious. There are still people going about their business like noting is happening. Just look at the protests in some countries against the stay at home rules ........ MADNESS much of what is being discussed now in the media I mentioned weeks ago but as you say many do not take this seriously and you end up sounding like a conspiracy theorist although trying to provide factual evidence The way information is released globally is purposeful to avoid civil disturbances And disorder, any national level of disorder no country would be able to control. If the government with all the information they know and said from the beginning 6 months isolation restrictions instead of the rolling 3 week reviews , what reaction would the population have and would order still be had the same way ? Real figures many would not be able to comprehend and many would suffer anxiety and mental health issues , there is even government guidance on release of Specific risk information in times like these and effects on the population and how it should be disclosed |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mose on Apr 18, 2020 18:53:27 GMT 1, 'Severity bias' is gonna be a popular phrase pretty soon.
'Severity bias' is gonna be a popular phrase pretty soon.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 18, 2020 23:22:24 GMT 1, Just look at the protests in some countries against the stay at home rules ........ MADNESS From today’s Telegraph, in which an actual cabinet minister writes:  It seems there may be some drawbacks to electing people who are fundamentally fücking indifferent to human life.
Did not know public and media pressure Had so much effect within the government ?🤣did not work with teachers and nhs pay requests?😶
My interpretation Whilst vaccine or medicines in development the isolations and lockdowns will last as long as the majority of the public adhere to guidelines once mass numbers start ignoring guidelines then relaxations would occur , the last option is to use The police To enforce Marshall law , hence set guidelines were updated recently and sent to all police forces as many police officers were interpreting the rules and guidelines wrongly and the last scenario The government wants is to lose the public’s confidence .
There are not enough police officers to enforce a national lockdown enforcement even without counting the numbers missing from duty from sickness .
Without any measures put in place relaxing the isolation will just increase deaths again
Just look at the protests in some countries against the stay at home rules ........ MADNESS From today’s Telegraph, in which an actual cabinet minister writes: It seems there may be some drawbacks to electing people who are fundamentally fücking indifferent to human life. Did not know public and media pressure Had so much effect within the government ?🤣did not work with teachers and nhs pay requests?😶 My interpretation Whilst vaccine or medicines in development the isolations and lockdowns will last as long as the majority of the public adhere to guidelines once mass numbers start ignoring guidelines then relaxations would occur , the last option is to use The police To enforce Marshall law , hence set guidelines were updated recently and sent to all police forces as many police officers were interpreting the rules and guidelines wrongly and the last scenario The government wants is to lose the public’s confidence . There are not enough police officers to enforce a national lockdown enforcement even without counting the numbers missing from duty from sickness . Without any measures put in place relaxing the isolation will just increase deaths again |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 18, 2020 23:54:29 GMT 1, Did not know public and media pressure Had so much effect within the government ?🤣 The government has been entirely reactive to public and media pressure in this pandemic, running around like headless chickens, U-turning more than a fat British tourist driving round Orlando looking for Dunkin Donuts. As the tide of public opinion turned, the government went from stating that school closures were unnecessary, to ordering the closure of schools in a matter of days. When the media start demanding answers about PPE, the next day we get some Tory drone at the press conference triumphantly vomiting out their 37 pillar plan to solve the problem. When questions about care-homes and care-workers were becoming impossible to ignore, a smug t**t appears at a lectern saying everything is OK, we're going to give care-workers a special badge. When people start asking 'Where is Priti Patel in this crisis?', out she comes the next day. No doubt if the papers starting demanding to know what colour underwear Michael Gove was wearing, the next day the odious little turd would appear with some charts showing the distribution over the last week. Although he'd be very careful not to accept any responsibility for having chosen what colour to wear on a particular day - all decisions are driven by the science of course. At this point, you can almost predict exactly which of the smug posh t**ts they're going to wheel out, and what they're going to talk about, based on whatever Piers Morgan is angrily tweeting about the previous day.
Who’s the best journalist contact , I have a few questions 😁
They need to seem to be keeping the public in the loop and Present the impression they are transparent with all information
if the general public sense that information is being withheld or manipulated The government will soon lose Public order .. If many people start to lose their savings , jobs ,homes ,family ,friends and if there is no cure and a high probability death Eventually some people may have a mental breakdown And could cause chaos if populations are advised to live in the present scenario until a vaccine or medicines are developed
Did not know public and media pressure Had so much effect within the government ?🤣 The government has been entirely reactive to public and media pressure in this pandemic, running around like headless chickens, U-turning more than a fat British tourist driving round Orlando looking for Dunkin Donuts. As the tide of public opinion turned, the government went from stating that school closures were unnecessary, to ordering the closure of schools in a matter of days. When the media start demanding answers about PPE, the next day we get some Tory drone at the press conference triumphantly vomiting out their 37 pillar plan to solve the problem. When questions about care-homes and care-workers were becoming impossible to ignore, a smug t**t appears at a lectern saying everything is OK, we're going to give care-workers a special badge. When people start asking 'Where is Priti Patel in this crisis?', out she comes the next day. No doubt if the papers starting demanding to know what colour underwear Michael Gove was wearing, the next day the odious little turd would appear with some charts showing the distribution over the last week. Although he'd be very careful not to accept any responsibility for having chosen what colour to wear on a particular day - all decisions are driven by the science of course. At this point, you can almost predict exactly which of the smug posh t**ts they're going to wheel out, and what they're going to talk about, based on whatever Piers Morgan is angrily tweeting about the previous day. Who’s the best journalist contact , I have a few questions 😁 They need to seem to be keeping the public in the loop and Present the impression they are transparent with all information if the general public sense that information is being withheld or manipulated The government will soon lose Public order .. If many people start to lose their savings , jobs ,homes ,family ,friends and if there is no cure and a high probability death Eventually some people may have a mental breakdown And could cause chaos if populations are advised to live in the present scenario until a vaccine or medicines are developed |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by londonliam08 on Apr 19, 2020 2:57:32 GMT 1, PP f&%king E
What a joke. I am protesting this rubbish. Have you seen what they have? No FPP3. No proper overalls, gowns, goggles, gloves. There are probably more graffiti artists in London with better PPE than the anything the NHS have. I sit there looking at my half mask with disgust and shame. If we had proper testing it could be given to the NHS but we have nothing, so who knows if I have covid or did have, its useless for now.
All I want to know is at what date did they start buying PPE. If it was not when China were building 2 hospitals in a week the our country has failed the NHS and us. Because it was clear at that point control had been lost and it was on it's way if not here.
Blood on the hands of the bullingdon boys have some answering to do. Accountability
PP f&%king E
What a joke. I am protesting this rubbish. Have you seen what they have? No FPP3. No proper overalls, gowns, goggles, gloves. There are probably more graffiti artists in London with better PPE than the anything the NHS have. I sit there looking at my half mask with disgust and shame. If we had proper testing it could be given to the NHS but we have nothing, so who knows if I have covid or did have, its useless for now.
All I want to know is at what date did they start buying PPE. If it was not when China were building 2 hospitals in a week the our country has failed the NHS and us. Because it was clear at that point control had been lost and it was on it's way if not here.
Blood on the hands of the bullingdon boys have some answering to do. Accountability
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by brycepen on Apr 19, 2020 5:56:03 GMT 1, "A group of highly-qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences in bats as they evolve. The mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human," Fauci said at the daily White House press briefing in response to a question from a reporter on the theory. How have you derived it’s man made from this comment?
How have you derived that it’s not? I didn’t base my opinion that it is man made on the speculation of experts. I have a basic science background.
I understand how structural biochemistry works.
I understand how gene splicing can be used to make recombinant DNA (it’s not that difficult to do with any virus that has circular DNA; we were required to do it for university biology lab). I can’t speak to the DNA structure of this coronavirus, but I don’t doubt that a trained scientist with a PhD that has been working with this for several years could successfully produce mutations with recombinant DNA.
The alternative theory, which is that bats carrying the viruses acquired this novel genetic coding through natural mutation, is far fetched (and that’s an understatement). The odds of bats producing a novel virus which is so far advanced than any other coronaviruses that it has gained the to ability to perfectly bind to human enzymes are astronomical. Especially when we are talking about a virus that is less than 20 years old. So yeah, I guess there is chance this virus evolved naturally into an incredibly more lethal version.
To me it’s just Occam’s razor; the simplest answer is probably correct.
Funny how people hear what they want to hear.
"A group of highly-qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences in bats as they evolve. The mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human," Fauci said at the daily White House press briefing in response to a question from a reporter on the theory. How have you derived it’s man made from this comment? How have you derived that it’s not? I didn’t base my opinion that it is man made on the speculation of experts. I have a basic science background. I understand how structural biochemistry works. I understand how gene splicing can be used to make recombinant DNA (it’s not that difficult to do with any virus that has circular DNA; we were required to do it for university biology lab). I can’t speak to the DNA structure of this coronavirus, but I don’t doubt that a trained scientist with a PhD that has been working with this for several years could successfully produce mutations with recombinant DNA. The alternative theory, which is that bats carrying the viruses acquired this novel genetic coding through natural mutation, is far fetched (and that’s an understatement). The odds of bats producing a novel virus which is so far advanced than any other coronaviruses that it has gained the to ability to perfectly bind to human enzymes are astronomical. Especially when we are talking about a virus that is less than 20 years old. So yeah, I guess there is chance this virus evolved naturally into an incredibly more lethal version. To me it’s just Occam’s razor; the simplest answer is probably correct. Funny how people hear what they want to hear. yeah, that is funny, isn’t it? |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by brycepen on Apr 19, 2020 6:11:38 GMT 1,
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by brycepen on Apr 19, 2020 6:33:12 GMT 1, International league table of Covid-19 tests done, ranked by percentage of population tested. 
It’s not really fair the judge the UK so harshly based on this information. Or the US for that matter. The UK has a population of almost 70,000,000 people. Iceland has 350,000. 
of course it’s going to be much harder and take longer to test the population of huge countries.
that said, I do still the availability of testing (or lack thereof) is a disgrace.
International league table of Covid-19 tests done, ranked by percentage of population tested. It’s not really fair the judge the UK so harshly based on this information. Or the US for that matter. The UK has a population of almost 70,000,000 people. Iceland has 350,000. of course it’s going to be much harder and take longer to test the population of huge countries. that said, I do still the availability of testing (or lack thereof) is a disgrace. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by wrigs on Apr 19, 2020 8:42:05 GMT 1, "A group of highly-qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences in bats as they evolve. The mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human," Fauci said at the daily White House press briefing in response to a question from a reporter on the theory. How have you derived it’s man made from this comment? How have you derived that it’s not? I didn’t base my opinion that it is man made on the speculation of experts. I have a basic science background. I understand how structural biochemistry works. I understand how gene splicing can be used to make recombinant DNA (it’s not that difficult to do with any virus that has circular DNA; we were required to do it for university biology lab). I can’t speak to the DNA structure of this coronavirus, but I don’t doubt that a trained scientist with a PhD that has been working with this for several years could successfully produce mutations with recombinant DNA. The alternative theory, which is that bats carrying the viruses acquired this novel genetic coding through natural mutation, is far fetched (and that’s an understatement). The odds of bats producing a novel virus which is so far advanced than any other coronaviruses that it has gained the to ability to perfectly bind to human enzymes are astronomical. Especially when we are talking about a virus that is less than 20 years old. So yeah, I guess there is chance this virus evolved naturally into an incredibly more lethal version. To me it’s just Occam’s razor; the simplest answer is probably correct. Funny how people hear what they want to hear. yeah, that is funny, isn’t it?
Ummm because he said so ‘We do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible’ 😁
"A group of highly-qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences in bats as they evolve. The mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human," Fauci said at the daily White House press briefing in response to a question from a reporter on the theory. How have you derived it’s man made from this comment? How have you derived that it’s not? I didn’t base my opinion that it is man made on the speculation of experts. I have a basic science background. I understand how structural biochemistry works. I understand how gene splicing can be used to make recombinant DNA (it’s not that difficult to do with any virus that has circular DNA; we were required to do it for university biology lab). I can’t speak to the DNA structure of this coronavirus, but I don’t doubt that a trained scientist with a PhD that has been working with this for several years could successfully produce mutations with recombinant DNA. The alternative theory, which is that bats carrying the viruses acquired this novel genetic coding through natural mutation, is far fetched (and that’s an understatement). The odds of bats producing a novel virus which is so far advanced than any other coronaviruses that it has gained the to ability to perfectly bind to human enzymes are astronomical. Especially when we are talking about a virus that is less than 20 years old. So yeah, I guess there is chance this virus evolved naturally into an incredibly more lethal version. To me it’s just Occam’s razor; the simplest answer is probably correct. Funny how people hear what they want to hear. yeah, that is funny, isn’t it? Ummm because he said so ‘We do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible’ 😁 |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by brycepen on Apr 19, 2020 8:59:02 GMT 1, How have you derived that it’s not? I didn’t base my opinion that it is man made on the speculation of experts. I have a basic science background. I understand how structural biochemistry works. I understand how gene splicing can be used to make recombinant DNA (it’s not that difficult to do with any virus that has circular DNA; we were required to do it for university biology lab). I can’t speak to the DNA structure of this coronavirus, but I don’t doubt that a trained scientist with a PhD that has been working with this for several years could successfully produce mutations with recombinant DNA. The alternative theory, which is that bats carrying the viruses acquired this novel genetic coding through natural mutation, is far fetched (and that’s an understatement). The odds of bats producing a novel virus which is so far advanced than any other coronaviruses that it has gained the to ability to perfectly bind to human enzymes are astronomical. Especially when we are talking about a virus that is less than 20 years old. So yeah, I guess there is chance this virus evolved naturally into an incredibly more lethal version. To me it’s just Occam’s razor; the simplest answer is probably correct. yeah, that is funny, isn’t it? Ummm because he said so ‘We do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible’ 😁
It must be nice to lack enough scientific knowledge to find comfort in that statement. It’s not as if the head of the NIH is going to go on TV and tell the public that China is probably capable of producing sophisticated bioweapons that they could easily disseminate to the world population, killing hundreds of thousands of people and devastating national economies without so much as lifting a finger.
I don’t think that China intended to release this virus to the general population. I think they were playing with explosives and accidentally dropped a nuclear bomb. But why were they studying Coronaviruses in the Wuhan lab??? We have a vaccine for SARS, so what exactly were they researching when they stumbled upon this new virus? Why the massive cover up?
How have you derived that it’s not? I didn’t base my opinion that it is man made on the speculation of experts. I have a basic science background. I understand how structural biochemistry works. I understand how gene splicing can be used to make recombinant DNA (it’s not that difficult to do with any virus that has circular DNA; we were required to do it for university biology lab). I can’t speak to the DNA structure of this coronavirus, but I don’t doubt that a trained scientist with a PhD that has been working with this for several years could successfully produce mutations with recombinant DNA. The alternative theory, which is that bats carrying the viruses acquired this novel genetic coding through natural mutation, is far fetched (and that’s an understatement). The odds of bats producing a novel virus which is so far advanced than any other coronaviruses that it has gained the to ability to perfectly bind to human enzymes are astronomical. Especially when we are talking about a virus that is less than 20 years old. So yeah, I guess there is chance this virus evolved naturally into an incredibly more lethal version. To me it’s just Occam’s razor; the simplest answer is probably correct. yeah, that is funny, isn’t it? Ummm because he said so ‘We do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible’ 😁 It must be nice to lack enough scientific knowledge to find comfort in that statement. It’s not as if the head of the NIH is going to go on TV and tell the public that China is probably capable of producing sophisticated bioweapons that they could easily disseminate to the world population, killing hundreds of thousands of people and devastating national economies without so much as lifting a finger. I don’t think that China intended to release this virus to the general population. I think they were playing with explosives and accidentally dropped a nuclear bomb. But why were they studying Coronaviruses in the Wuhan lab??? We have a vaccine for SARS, so what exactly were they researching when they stumbled upon this new virus? Why the massive cover up? |
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