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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Apr 19, 2020 17:39:57 GMT 1, Question time today on news marking Down deaths , This would be a false reading as deaths are only reported if occurred and tested prior to hospital Visit The longer this proceeds the more people would be unwilling to seek medical care immediately or have tests As are becoming scared of visiting hospitals as not sure they have the virus and many think they will be infected if step inside a hospital The way the deaths are recorded and at least 60 % of the populations needs testing not .5% to get a clearer picture Also other deaths are happening not just linked to lung incapacity from covid 19
"Well I'm sorry if people feel that there have been failings, I'll be very very clear about that". Priti Patel in response to NHS staff & families concern over lack of testing and PPE.
Look after yourselves people because your government aren't going to.
*I would include the you tube vids of these nasty comments but they're only available through a link from The Sun gutter press and I refuse to link anything from there.
Question time today on news marking Down deaths , This would be a false reading as deaths are only reported if occurred and tested prior to hospital Visit The longer this proceeds the more people would be unwilling to seek medical care immediately or have tests As are becoming scared of visiting hospitals as not sure they have the virus and many think they will be infected if step inside a hospital The way the deaths are recorded and at least 60 % of the populations needs testing not .5% to get a clearer picture Also other deaths are happening not just linked to lung incapacity from covid 19 Do you mean the "three hundred thousand and thirty four nine hundred and seventy four thousand" tests announced by Priti Patel during the Easter weekend?... you do the maths cause they obviously can't. "Well I'm sorry if people feel that there have been failings, I'll be very very clear about that". Priti Patel in response to NHS staff & families concern over lack of testing and PPE. Look after yourselves people because your government aren't going to. *I would include the you tube vids of these nasty comments but they're only available through a link from The Sun gutter press and I refuse to link anything from there. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by .dappy on Apr 19, 2020 17:46:10 GMT 1, .. "Well I'm sorry that there have been failings, I'll be very clear about that" .... fixed that for you Priti ...
... its OK ... we now ... have A TZAR!
.. "Well I'm sorry that there have been failings, I'll be very clear about that" .... fixed that for you Priti ...
... its OK ... we now ... have A TZAR!
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 19, 2020 18:02:51 GMT 1, Sorry for failings but still no direct actions to resolve , or have contacts in place to meet requirements , anyone can say we are going to do something but direct actions Are needed
The governments Lack of actions are simply directly killing people Now
Sorry for failings but still no direct actions to resolve , or have contacts in place to meet requirements , anyone can say we are going to do something but direct actions Are needed
The governments Lack of actions are simply directly killing people Now
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 19, 2020 18:09:01 GMT 1, news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-developing-a-vaccine-against-covid-19-is-not-a-given-11975532
A huge percentage Of the public do have total trust in the government and believe all that is told to them as pointed out in early discussions in this thread .
The government over the next few days will unravel before the media all the huge mistakes and missed preventative actions not Taken.
The way the deaths are recorded at present are to confuse the public and not to create panic
If the way deaths are recorded did not come to light the issue would not seem so great which some still believe by the way the Low figures Are released .
You only have to look at how much the country’s are losing financially each week By having lockdowns to know nOt all information about covid 19 is being released to the public
news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-developing-a-vaccine-against-covid-19-is-not-a-given-11975532A huge percentage Of the public do have total trust in the government and believe all that is told to them as pointed out in early discussions in this thread . The government over the next few days will unravel before the media all the huge mistakes and missed preventative actions not Taken. The way the deaths are recorded at present are to confuse the public and not to create panic If the way deaths are recorded did not come to light the issue would not seem so great which some still believe by the way the Low figures Are released . You only have to look at how much the country’s are losing financially each week By having lockdowns to know nOt all information about covid 19 is being released to the public
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 19, 2020 18:15:44 GMT 1, If this is to become a yearly event ,only the naturally fit will survive
If this is to become a yearly event ,only the naturally fit will survive
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mw on Apr 19, 2020 18:32:53 GMT 1, If this is to become a yearly event ,only the naturally fit will survive
👍 Fewer and fewer Tory voters each year.
If this is to become a yearly event ,only the naturally fit will survive 👍 Fewer and fewer Tory voters each year. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Apr 19, 2020 18:54:18 GMT 1, Sorry for failings but still no direct actions to resolve , or have contacts in place to meet requirements , anyone can say we are going to do something but direct actions Are needed The governments Lack of actions are simply directly killing people Now
Sorry for failings but still no direct actions to resolve , or have contacts in place to meet requirements , anyone can say we are going to do something but direct actions Are needed The governments Lack of actions are simply directly killing people Now She didn't say she was sorry for the failings she said she was sorry that the NHS staff and their families felt that there had been failings. So absolutely not an apology or anyway sorry. Disgraceful. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 19, 2020 18:58:02 GMT 1, Sorry for failings but still no direct actions to resolve , or have contacts in place to meet requirements , anyone can say we are going to do something but direct actions Are needed The governments Lack of actions are simply directly killing people Now She didn't say she was sorry for the failings she said she was sorry that the NHS staff and their families felt that there had been failings. So absolutely not an apology or anyway sorry. Disgraceful.
That is appalling
Government Defending their position that they have made adequate provisions and actions in this time but if they had fully stockpiled and not let ppe run out of date the country would not be in this position now . Short cuts and cost savings have created this scenario
Sorry for failings but still no direct actions to resolve , or have contacts in place to meet requirements , anyone can say we are going to do something but direct actions Are needed The governments Lack of actions are simply directly killing people Now She didn't say she was sorry for the failings she said she was sorry that the NHS staff and their families felt that there had been failings. So absolutely not an apology or anyway sorry. Disgraceful. That is appalling Government Defending their position that they have made adequate provisions and actions in this time but if they had fully stockpiled and not let ppe run out of date the country would not be in this position now . Short cuts and cost savings have created this scenario |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 19, 2020 20:42:05 GMT 1, news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-logistics-company-flies-in-tonnes-of-ppe-as-imports-procedure-gets-tricky-11975562
Have the government disclosed the costs of these last Minute purchase of PPE?
Have costs risen as of global demand ?
If stockpiles of ppe were kept in line with pre planned and advised requirements by central government , PHE,NHS and uk risk register policy documents what is the extra costs now for not fulfilling these requirements ?
The recent purchase of PPE is from china , is the delay on release to the nhs because of the government taking stock checks and carrying out quality control checks ?
As turkey ,Spain ,Italy and France governments had to return insufficient poor standard and quality ppe products back to china
This would be the last thing the government would want After falling short with Ppe , not following policy in stockpiling emergency requirements of Ppe to then provide faulty products ?
news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-logistics-company-flies-in-tonnes-of-ppe-as-imports-procedure-gets-tricky-11975562Have the government disclosed the costs of these last Minute purchase of PPE? Have costs risen as of global demand ? If stockpiles of ppe were kept in line with pre planned and advised requirements by central government , PHE,NHS and uk risk register policy documents what is the extra costs now for not fulfilling these requirements ? The recent purchase of PPE is from china , is the delay on release to the nhs because of the government taking stock checks and carrying out quality control checks ? As turkey ,Spain ,Italy and France governments had to return insufficient poor standard and quality ppe products back to china This would be the last thing the government would want After falling short with Ppe , not following policy in stockpiling emergency requirements of Ppe to then provide faulty products ?
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Apr 19, 2020 21:10:25 GMT 1, IF the restrictions are 6months to a year to be set in place this could put an end to the drug use activity in the U.K. , With closed borders and flights Supply chains are cut off , casual users would cease and stop habitual users on the route to becoming addicts .
Crime rates of associated crime to fund drug use would cease
Which intelligence shows drug gangs fund other Criminal activity including human trafficking which would also Fall.
The savings the government would make could fund the shortfalls in the nhs
www.gov.uk/government/publications/financial-cost-of-acquisitive-crime-caused-by-class-a-drug-users-in-the-uk
IF the restrictions are 6months to a year to be set in place this could put an end to the drug use activity in the U.K. , With closed borders and flights Supply chains are cut off , casual users would cease and stop habitual users on the route to becoming addicts . Crime rates of associated crime to fund drug use would cease Which intelligence shows drug gangs fund other Criminal activity including human trafficking which would also Fall. The savings the government would make could fund the shortfalls in the nhs www.gov.uk/government/publications/financial-cost-of-acquisitive-crime-caused-by-class-a-drug-users-in-the-uk |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Zippy on Apr 19, 2020 22:37:30 GMT 1, www.marchforchange.uk/
We need a full public inquiry into the UK response to the coronavirus crisis.
The UK is currently on course to be the worst-hit European country, suggesting systemic failings in the approach taken to tackle the coronavirus outbreak.
The number of lives lost may jump further when we account for the inadequate reporting of coronavirus casualties in the community and in care homes, which raises questions about government honesty in documenting the crisis.
We have already had several scandals, including the ‘herd immunity’ strategy, dropping contact tracing, woefully inadequate Covid-19 testing, and a slow, half-committed initial response while other European countries locked down fast. Combined, these have likely cost many lives.
There has also been a shocking dearth of support for the NHS with key supplies (such as PPE and ventilators),despite opportunities to obtain such supplies from standard NHS suppliers or international sharing & procurement programmes. This has endangered our frontline staff and patients alike.
Finally, a pandemic simulation in October 2016 warned of these supply risks and related issues, yet this government irresponsibly chose not to act on the warnings, leaving our NHS and public vulnerable to a pandemic.
We cannot ever again leave our NHS so under-resourced, expecting brave elderly doctors to return from retirement to save our lives only to lose theirs, and leaving frontline staff to treat patients dressed only in bin bags and thin surgical masks. All political leaders must now commit to an inquiry to identify what has gone wrong, learn the lessons, and ensure it never happens again.
You can help start this essential process by signing our petition for a full public inquiry into the UK government’s handling of the coronavirus outbreak.
We are now set to be the worst-hit country in Europe. We are behind on testing and NHS staff still lack crucial Personal Protective Equipment. The UK Public deserves answers.
"To the Prime Minister and leaders of UK political parties: Commit to a full public inquiry into the UK response to the coronavirus outbreak."
www.marchforchange.uk/coronavirus_inquiry
www.marchforchange.uk/We need a full public inquiry into the UK response to the coronavirus crisis. The UK is currently on course to be the worst-hit European country, suggesting systemic failings in the approach taken to tackle the coronavirus outbreak. The number of lives lost may jump further when we account for the inadequate reporting of coronavirus casualties in the community and in care homes, which raises questions about government honesty in documenting the crisis. We have already had several scandals, including the ‘herd immunity’ strategy, dropping contact tracing, woefully inadequate Covid-19 testing, and a slow, half-committed initial response while other European countries locked down fast. Combined, these have likely cost many lives. There has also been a shocking dearth of support for the NHS with key supplies (such as PPE and ventilators),despite opportunities to obtain such supplies from standard NHS suppliers or international sharing & procurement programmes. This has endangered our frontline staff and patients alike. Finally, a pandemic simulation in October 2016 warned of these supply risks and related issues, yet this government irresponsibly chose not to act on the warnings, leaving our NHS and public vulnerable to a pandemic. We cannot ever again leave our NHS so under-resourced, expecting brave elderly doctors to return from retirement to save our lives only to lose theirs, and leaving frontline staff to treat patients dressed only in bin bags and thin surgical masks. All political leaders must now commit to an inquiry to identify what has gone wrong, learn the lessons, and ensure it never happens again. You can help start this essential process by signing our petition for a full public inquiry into the UK government’s handling of the coronavirus outbreak. We are now set to be the worst-hit country in Europe. We are behind on testing and NHS staff still lack crucial Personal Protective Equipment. The UK Public deserves answers. "To the Prime Minister and leaders of UK political parties: Commit to a full public inquiry into the UK response to the coronavirus outbreak." www.marchforchange.uk/coronavirus_inquiry
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Apr 19, 2020 22:58:34 GMT 1, Personal protective equipment (PPE) is like “gold dust” and competing countries are paying a “premium price” to secure it, according to HSE CEO Paul Reid.
He added that buying equipment has become a form of “modern day piracy” as countries have been forced to bid higher in order to fulfil demands in hospitals.
He said that securing enough PPE remains the “primary challenge” for the health service.
“Since the start of this pandemic, availability has been our primary challenge in finding and secure [supply] lines,” he said at this afternoon’s HSE press briefing at UCD.
Countries are now attempting to outbid other countries in order to secure the equipment in what Mr Reid described as “modern day piracy”.
“Whether it’s for PPE, whether it’s for ventilators, whether it’s for reagents, as soon as you think you have stocks adorned, somebody somewhere in the world is outbidding you, whether that’s at the delivery stage or if it’s nearly at the export stage.
“There’s a lot of piracy, modern day piracy going on,” he said.
He added that Ireland was quick to place orders and paid a “reasonable amount” for the first batch of PPE, which cost €208m and a second batch, which cost €67m.
“From our perspective, we paid what we believe is a reasonable price at the right point in time, our priority was obviously the protection of our staff and our patients.
“There’s certainly premium prices being paid there on the market, we did get in early and secure a very significant order of €210m or so,” he said.
He also added that PPE has now become like “gold dust” and that healthcare workers should be “prudent” when using it.
“PPE is now the new gold dust,” he said.
“There is a global modern day pircacy going on, when we secure an order, someone else is coming in to try outbid and get the order that we secured. So it’s going to be like this for a sustainable period of time.”
Personal protective equipment (PPE) is like “gold dust” and competing countries are paying a “premium price” to secure it, according to HSE CEO Paul Reid.
He added that buying equipment has become a form of “modern day piracy” as countries have been forced to bid higher in order to fulfil demands in hospitals.
He said that securing enough PPE remains the “primary challenge” for the health service.
“Since the start of this pandemic, availability has been our primary challenge in finding and secure [supply] lines,” he said at this afternoon’s HSE press briefing at UCD.
Countries are now attempting to outbid other countries in order to secure the equipment in what Mr Reid described as “modern day piracy”.
“Whether it’s for PPE, whether it’s for ventilators, whether it’s for reagents, as soon as you think you have stocks adorned, somebody somewhere in the world is outbidding you, whether that’s at the delivery stage or if it’s nearly at the export stage.
“There’s a lot of piracy, modern day piracy going on,” he said.
He added that Ireland was quick to place orders and paid a “reasonable amount” for the first batch of PPE, which cost €208m and a second batch, which cost €67m.
“From our perspective, we paid what we believe is a reasonable price at the right point in time, our priority was obviously the protection of our staff and our patients.
“There’s certainly premium prices being paid there on the market, we did get in early and secure a very significant order of €210m or so,” he said.
He also added that PPE has now become like “gold dust” and that healthcare workers should be “prudent” when using it.
“PPE is now the new gold dust,” he said.
“There is a global modern day pircacy going on, when we secure an order, someone else is coming in to try outbid and get the order that we secured. So it’s going to be like this for a sustainable period of time.”
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by ca on Apr 20, 2020 5:44:40 GMT 1,
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Apr 20, 2020 11:40:42 GMT 1, 100% there should be a public inquiry into how the government handled this Corona virus outbreak.
How the government misled the public and how the government NHS and private hospitals put pressure on nurses and others to treat people without having PPE equipment.
Also into Sadiq Khan cutting tube services meaning people had to travel to work including NHS staff on packed tube trains. Plus Khan refusing to give transport workers and bus drivers safety equipment to protect them.
People who have been threatened with dismissal for refusing to work without the correct PPE equipment should be supported if they refused to work and the blame put on the government.
Nothing changes unfortunately when it comes to how the UK government treats people on the front line.
100% there should be a public inquiry into how the government handled this Corona virus outbreak.
How the government misled the public and how the government NHS and private hospitals put pressure on nurses and others to treat people without having PPE equipment.
Also into Sadiq Khan cutting tube services meaning people had to travel to work including NHS staff on packed tube trains. Plus Khan refusing to give transport workers and bus drivers safety equipment to protect them.
People who have been threatened with dismissal for refusing to work without the correct PPE equipment should be supported if they refused to work and the blame put on the government.
Nothing changes unfortunately when it comes to how the UK government treats people on the front line.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Apr 20, 2020 11:46:19 GMT 1, Sorry for failings but still no direct actions to resolve , or have contacts in place to meet requirements , anyone can say we are going to do something but direct actions Are needed The governments Lack of actions are simply directly killing people Now
Whenever a politician or someone in authority uses the term "failings" it is ongoing BS.
There is no such thing as failings. In reality there was a cover up and collusion to cover up and deliberately ignore facts presented to them. How many people in authority are involved in the decision to not act correctly and in which types of departments and positions needs to be exposed.
I would say that it is government ministers and some NHS chiefs at least.
Sorry for failings but still no direct actions to resolve , or have contacts in place to meet requirements , anyone can say we are going to do something but direct actions Are needed The governments Lack of actions are simply directly killing people Now Whenever a politician or someone in authority uses the term "failings" it is ongoing BS. There is no such thing as failings. In reality there was a cover up and collusion to cover up and deliberately ignore facts presented to them. How many people in authority are involved in the decision to not act correctly and in which types of departments and positions needs to be exposed. I would say that it is government ministers and some NHS chiefs at least. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Apr 20, 2020 12:05:17 GMT 1, Just look at the protests in some countries against the stay at home rules ........ MADNESS From today’s Telegraph, in which an actual cabinet minister writes:  It seems there may be some drawbacks to electing people who are fundamentally fücking indifferent to human life.
The article was written by:
Gordon Rayner,
POLITICAL EDITOR ;
Camilla Tominey,
ASSOCIATE EDITOR ;
Anna Mikhailova,
DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR and
Charles Hymas
The article quotes a "cabinet source" and as we all know a "cabinet source" can be anybody.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/17/cabinet-ministers-admit-no-lockdown-exit-plan-wait-boris-johnsons/
Just look at the protests in some countries against the stay at home rules ........ MADNESS From today’s Telegraph, in which an actual cabinet minister writes: It seems there may be some drawbacks to electing people who are fundamentally fücking indifferent to human life. No cabinet minister wrote that (and you accuse me of making things up, tut tut) The article was written by: Gordon Rayner, POLITICAL EDITOR ; Camilla Tominey, ASSOCIATE EDITOR ; Anna Mikhailova, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR and Charles Hymas The article quotes a "cabinet source" and as we all know a "cabinet source" can be anybody. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/17/cabinet-ministers-admit-no-lockdown-exit-plan-wait-boris-johnsons/ |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Apr 20, 2020 12:19:41 GMT 1, The article is titled ‘Cabinet Ministers Admit...’ you imbecile.
You left that bit out in this reply to me.
The article is titled ‘Cabinet Ministers Admit...’ you imbecile. and you wrote in your post "From today’s Telegraph, in which an actual cabinet minister writes:" You left that bit out in this reply to me. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Apr 20, 2020 12:25:18 GMT 1, I really struggle with the fact that a person that studied Classics at Eton can barely string a sentence together let alone make any bloody sense. Clark Kent specticles WTF is he on about?
This is from 3rd February, if only he'd of taken the pandemic seriously then we wouldn't be where we are now.
I really struggle with the fact that a person that studied Classics at Eton can barely string a sentence together let alone make any bloody sense. Clark Kent specticles WTF is he on about?
This is from 3rd February, if only he'd of taken the pandemic seriously then we wouldn't be where we are now.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Apr 20, 2020 12:30:33 GMT 1, 
(article translated to English)
"The Chinese Communist dictatorship has generously donated to the world the coronavirus which has killed tens of thousands of people and is causing economies to stop in several countries of the planet, but how can we not see that thousands of human beings less, and a cut in savings means less consumption and less pollution!
Besides, the delighted ecologists say that the air is purer, that we hear birds singing and that ducks are walking happily in Paris.
In a magnificent and moving effort to help the Chinese Communist dictatorship, the World Health Organization said that the coronavirus was not contagious, that people from Wuhan could fly freely to cities like Milan, Paris, London or New York where they brought the virus with them. The World Health Organization lied, of course, but it was for a good cause ...
A little later, the World Health Organization said that the disease it called Covid 19 would kill 3.4 percent of those affected, which led to catastrophic forecasts of millions of deaths, and caused panic effects. The World Health Organization lied again, but the panic was so great!
The obnoxious Donald Trump, a dirty guy who is attached to freedom and to Western civilization and to full employment (what a horror!), Dares to attack the World Health Organization and refuse to finance it any longer , when she behaved so well.
He even dares to say that the Chinese Communist dictatorship is guilty of something! What an abominable being!
Fortunately, artists have taken an initiative which shows that there are still people who have an ethic and an elevation of soul.
They are organizing a concert in support of the World Health Organization so that it has the funds to keep it lying, and they are right.
It would be terrible if the Chinese Communist dictatorship could no longer have the precious and untrue aid from the World Health Organization.
I have no doubt that in their momentum, the same artists will organize a little later a concert in support of the sympathetic Xi Jinping, who must suffer terribly from being so badly rewarded for his efforts. He is a delicate being, and I have no doubt that the artists who will participate in the concert know this and will do something.
Could I suggest that at the end of the concert, an effigy of the obnoxious Donald Trump and a few American flags be burned and that all the artists haunt in chorus the Chinese national anthem and the International. My suggestion will not be accepted, I know…. It would however allow a very fitting and very adequate apotheosis.
I have no doubt that the families of the dead, hospitalized patients and all the unemployed and whose business has gone bankrupt will watch the spectacle with the appropriate emotion and will find that the watchword: “Together at Home” , together at home, is superb and galvanizing.
Its true no ? Anyone can stay at home indefinitely. No one wants to go back to work. No one has to make a living by working. No one has month-end problems.
It's a nice ideal: staying at home sitting on a sofa, watching TV and listening to artists (who themselves have no end-of-month problems either) encourage them to give money to an organization that is closely guided by the Chinese Communist Party.
The organization that came up with the idea for the concert is called Global Citizen, global citizen. A name which ignores the borders and the difference between democracy and dictatorship, and which places itself at the service of the largest dictatorship in the world, to "end extreme poverty". If it's not a great idea, I don't know what a great idea is.
I have placed a photo of Mao as an illustration against the backdrop of a blazing red flag. Mao in his day had ended the extreme poverty of millions of Chinese people by ending the lives of millions of Chinese people. He was a great pioneer, and an ecologist ahead of his time: eliminating millions of human beings is a great gesture for the planet. Xi Jinping is his disciple, and Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, Director of WHO, is the disciple of Xi Jinping.
www.dreuz.info/2020/04/19/vive-loms-vive-le-communisme-chinois-bravo-aux-artistes-que-soutiennent-loms-et-le-communisme-chinois/
The first documentary movie on CCP virus, Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus
(disclaimer, this documentary was funded by Falun Gong)
(article translated to English) "The Chinese Communist dictatorship has generously donated to the world the coronavirus which has killed tens of thousands of people and is causing economies to stop in several countries of the planet, but how can we not see that thousands of human beings less, and a cut in savings means less consumption and less pollution! Besides, the delighted ecologists say that the air is purer, that we hear birds singing and that ducks are walking happily in Paris. In a magnificent and moving effort to help the Chinese Communist dictatorship, the World Health Organization said that the coronavirus was not contagious, that people from Wuhan could fly freely to cities like Milan, Paris, London or New York where they brought the virus with them. The World Health Organization lied, of course, but it was for a good cause ... A little later, the World Health Organization said that the disease it called Covid 19 would kill 3.4 percent of those affected, which led to catastrophic forecasts of millions of deaths, and caused panic effects. The World Health Organization lied again, but the panic was so great! The obnoxious Donald Trump, a dirty guy who is attached to freedom and to Western civilization and to full employment (what a horror!), Dares to attack the World Health Organization and refuse to finance it any longer , when she behaved so well. He even dares to say that the Chinese Communist dictatorship is guilty of something! What an abominable being! Fortunately, artists have taken an initiative which shows that there are still people who have an ethic and an elevation of soul. They are organizing a concert in support of the World Health Organization so that it has the funds to keep it lying, and they are right. It would be terrible if the Chinese Communist dictatorship could no longer have the precious and untrue aid from the World Health Organization. I have no doubt that in their momentum, the same artists will organize a little later a concert in support of the sympathetic Xi Jinping, who must suffer terribly from being so badly rewarded for his efforts. He is a delicate being, and I have no doubt that the artists who will participate in the concert know this and will do something. Could I suggest that at the end of the concert, an effigy of the obnoxious Donald Trump and a few American flags be burned and that all the artists haunt in chorus the Chinese national anthem and the International. My suggestion will not be accepted, I know…. It would however allow a very fitting and very adequate apotheosis. I have no doubt that the families of the dead, hospitalized patients and all the unemployed and whose business has gone bankrupt will watch the spectacle with the appropriate emotion and will find that the watchword: “Together at Home” , together at home, is superb and galvanizing. Its true no ? Anyone can stay at home indefinitely. No one wants to go back to work. No one has to make a living by working. No one has month-end problems. It's a nice ideal: staying at home sitting on a sofa, watching TV and listening to artists (who themselves have no end-of-month problems either) encourage them to give money to an organization that is closely guided by the Chinese Communist Party. The organization that came up with the idea for the concert is called Global Citizen, global citizen. A name which ignores the borders and the difference between democracy and dictatorship, and which places itself at the service of the largest dictatorship in the world, to "end extreme poverty". If it's not a great idea, I don't know what a great idea is. I have placed a photo of Mao as an illustration against the backdrop of a blazing red flag. Mao in his day had ended the extreme poverty of millions of Chinese people by ending the lives of millions of Chinese people. He was a great pioneer, and an ecologist ahead of his time: eliminating millions of human beings is a great gesture for the planet. Xi Jinping is his disciple, and Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, Director of WHO, is the disciple of Xi Jinping. www.dreuz.info/2020/04/19/vive-loms-vive-le-communisme-chinois-bravo-aux-artistes-que-soutiennent-loms-et-le-communisme-chinois/ The first documentary movie on CCP virus, Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus (disclaimer, this documentary was funded by Falun Gong) |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Apr 20, 2020 12:33:46 GMT 1, and you wrote in your post "From today’s Telegraph, in which an actual cabinet minister writes:" You left that bit out in this reply to me. Ok, how about ‘in which someone writes the words an actual cabinet minister said’. What does that change about what the actual cabinet minister said or the whole article itself? Nothing. Nothing at all you desperately belligerent fool.
The article quotes a cabinet source
and you wrote in your post "From today’s Telegraph, in which an actual cabinet minister writes:" You left that bit out in this reply to me. Ok, how about ‘in which someone writes the words an actual cabinet minister said’. What does that change about what the actual cabinet minister said or the whole article itself? Nothing. Nothing at all you desperately belligerent fool. which cabinet minister said ? The article quotes a cabinet source |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Apr 20, 2020 13:05:55 GMT 1, which cabinet minister said ? The article quotes a cabinet source Let’s try this one last time... Which part of the words ‘cabinet ministers’ used in the title of the article in your beloved paywalled Daily Torygraph don’t you understand? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/17/cabinet-ministers-admit-no-lockdown-exit-plan-wait-boris-johnsons/
which cabinet minister said ? The article quotes a cabinet source Let’s try this one last time... Which part of the words ‘cabinet ministers’ used in the title of the article in your beloved paywalled Daily Torygraph don’t you understand? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/17/cabinet-ministers-admit-no-lockdown-exit-plan-wait-boris-johnsons/i agree about the title but the article clearly states a "cabinet source " |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Apr 20, 2020 13:25:20 GMT 1, "Bat Influenza (Flu)
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"Questions & Answers"
What is bat influenza (flu)?
Bat flu refers to influenza A viruses found in bats. Bat flu was first discovered in “little yellow-shouldered bats” in Guatemala during a study conducted in 2009 and 2010 by experts from CDC and the Universidad del Valle (University of the Valley) in Guatemala (1). Bat flu viruses have since been detected in some other species of bats in Central and South America (2). Laboratory research conducted at CDC and elsewhere suggests that these viruses would need to undergo significant changes to become capable of infecting and spreading easily among humans. The species of bats currently known to carry bat flu are not native to the continental United States, but are common in Central and South America.
Does bat flu pose a threat to human health?
Preliminary laboratory research at CDC suggests that human cells do not support growth of the bat flu viruses in the test tube (1). This suggests that bat flu viruses may not grow or replicate in humans and would need to undergo significant changes to become capable of infecting and spreading easily among humans. However, testing of the bat flu virus’s genome suggests that its internal genes are compatible with human flu viruses, so CDC scientists cannot rule out the possibility of these viruses eventually becoming capable of infecting humans.
"How could bat flu viruses become capable of infecting and spreading among humans?
Because the internal genes of bat flu viruses are compatible with human flu viruses, it is possible that these viruses could exchange genetic information with human flu viruses through a process called “reassortment.” Reassortment occurs when two or more flu viruses infect a single host cell, which allows the viruses to swap genetic information. Reassortment can sometimes lead to the emergence of new flu viruses capable of infecting humans.
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"However, the conditions needed for reassortment to occur between human flu viruses and bat flu viruses remain unknown. A different animal (such as pigs, horses, dogs or seals) would need to serve as a “bridge,” meaning that such an animal would need to be capable of being infected with both this new bat flu virus and human flu viruses for reassortment to occur. Since the discovery of bat flu, at least one study has been conducted to assess the possibility of reassortment events occurring between bat flu and other flu viruses (3). So far, the results of these studies continue to indicate that bat flu viruses are very unlikely to reassort with other flu viruses to create new and potentially more infectious or dangerous viruses.
In their current form bat flu viruses do not appear to pose a threat to human health."
"How was bat flu discovered?
The discovery of the bat flu virus was made possible by field work conducted by CDC’s Global Disease Detection (GDD) Regional Center in Guatemala in collaboration with CDC’s Pathogen Discovery Program, CDC’s Rabies program and the Universidad del Valle in Guatemala."
www.cdc.gov/flu/other/bat-flu.html#spread
"An infectious bat-derived chimeric influenza virus harbouring the entry machinery of an influenza A virus."
"In 2012, the complete genomic sequence of a new and potentially harmful influenza A-like virus from bats (H17N10) was identified. However, infectious influenza virus was neither isolated from infected bats nor reconstituted, impeding further characterization of this virus. Here we show the generation of an infectious chimeric virus containing six out of the eight bat virus genes, with the remaining two genes encoding the haemagglutinin and neuraminidase proteins of a prototypic influenza A virus. This engineered virus replicates well in a broad range of mammalian cell cultures, human primary airway epithelial cells and mice, but poorly in avian cells and chicken embryos without further adaptation. Importantly, the bat chimeric virus is unable to reassort with other influenza A viruses. Although our data do not exclude the possibility of zoonotic transmission of bat influenza viruses into the human population, they indicate that multiple barriers exist that makes this an unlikely event."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25055345
Now the big question regarding this Covid-19 outbreak in Wuhan is. If this virus is simply a case of a bat virus infecting a domestic animal which in turn infects a human. Considering the many years (two decades nearly since the Sars outbreak in 2002) of laboratory work and virus research into Sars virus and at least ten years laboratory research into bat influenza virus possibility of infecting humans. With the science being that the bat virus infects an animal and mutates to infect humans. How come in all these years, scientists have not managed to produce a vaccine against it?
Is it a natural event like SARS-1 or is it a virus that was modified in a laboratory which accidentaly infected people and was initially covered up?
SARS-1 vaccine trials.
www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00533741
"Vaccines developed, but never used, against SARS could offer hope in the search for treatments for the new coronavirus."
www.discovermagazine.com/health/sars-vaccine-could-be-stopgap-measure-against-the-new-coronavirus-study
"Bat Influenza (Flu)
"
"Questions & Answers"
What is bat influenza (flu)?
Bat flu refers to influenza A viruses found in bats. Bat flu was first discovered in “little yellow-shouldered bats” in Guatemala during a study conducted in 2009 and 2010 by experts from CDC and the Universidad del Valle (University of the Valley) in Guatemala (1). Bat flu viruses have since been detected in some other species of bats in Central and South America (2). Laboratory research conducted at CDC and elsewhere suggests that these viruses would need to undergo significant changes to become capable of infecting and spreading easily among humans. The species of bats currently known to carry bat flu are not native to the continental United States, but are common in Central and South America.
Does bat flu pose a threat to human health?
Preliminary laboratory research at CDC suggests that human cells do not support growth of the bat flu viruses in the test tube (1). This suggests that bat flu viruses may not grow or replicate in humans and would need to undergo significant changes to become capable of infecting and spreading easily among humans. However, testing of the bat flu virus’s genome suggests that its internal genes are compatible with human flu viruses, so CDC scientists cannot rule out the possibility of these viruses eventually becoming capable of infecting humans.
"How could bat flu viruses become capable of infecting and spreading among humans?
Because the internal genes of bat flu viruses are compatible with human flu viruses, it is possible that these viruses could exchange genetic information with human flu viruses through a process called “reassortment.” Reassortment occurs when two or more flu viruses infect a single host cell, which allows the viruses to swap genetic information. Reassortment can sometimes lead to the emergence of new flu viruses capable of infecting humans.
"
"However, the conditions needed for reassortment to occur between human flu viruses and bat flu viruses remain unknown. A different animal (such as pigs, horses, dogs or seals) would need to serve as a “bridge,” meaning that such an animal would need to be capable of being infected with both this new bat flu virus and human flu viruses for reassortment to occur. Since the discovery of bat flu, at least one study has been conducted to assess the possibility of reassortment events occurring between bat flu and other flu viruses (3). So far, the results of these studies continue to indicate that bat flu viruses are very unlikely to reassort with other flu viruses to create new and potentially more infectious or dangerous viruses.
In their current form bat flu viruses do not appear to pose a threat to human health."
"How was bat flu discovered?
The discovery of the bat flu virus was made possible by field work conducted by CDC’s Global Disease Detection (GDD) Regional Center in Guatemala in collaboration with CDC’s Pathogen Discovery Program, CDC’s Rabies program and the Universidad del Valle in Guatemala."
www.cdc.gov/flu/other/bat-flu.html#spread
"An infectious bat-derived chimeric influenza virus harbouring the entry machinery of an influenza A virus."
"In 2012, the complete genomic sequence of a new and potentially harmful influenza A-like virus from bats (H17N10) was identified. However, infectious influenza virus was neither isolated from infected bats nor reconstituted, impeding further characterization of this virus. Here we show the generation of an infectious chimeric virus containing six out of the eight bat virus genes, with the remaining two genes encoding the haemagglutinin and neuraminidase proteins of a prototypic influenza A virus. This engineered virus replicates well in a broad range of mammalian cell cultures, human primary airway epithelial cells and mice, but poorly in avian cells and chicken embryos without further adaptation. Importantly, the bat chimeric virus is unable to reassort with other influenza A viruses. Although our data do not exclude the possibility of zoonotic transmission of bat influenza viruses into the human population, they indicate that multiple barriers exist that makes this an unlikely event."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25055345
Now the big question regarding this Covid-19 outbreak in Wuhan is. If this virus is simply a case of a bat virus infecting a domestic animal which in turn infects a human. Considering the many years (two decades nearly since the Sars outbreak in 2002) of laboratory work and virus research into Sars virus and at least ten years laboratory research into bat influenza virus possibility of infecting humans. With the science being that the bat virus infects an animal and mutates to infect humans. How come in all these years, scientists have not managed to produce a vaccine against it? Is it a natural event like SARS-1 or is it a virus that was modified in a laboratory which accidentaly infected people and was initially covered up? SARS-1 vaccine trials. www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00533741"Vaccines developed, but never used, against SARS could offer hope in the search for treatments for the new coronavirus."www.discovermagazine.com/health/sars-vaccine-could-be-stopgap-measure-against-the-new-coronavirus-study
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Javier on Apr 20, 2020 13:25:22 GMT 1, (article translated to English) "The Chinese Communist dictatorship has generously donated to the world the coronavirus which has killed tens of thousands of people and is causing economies to stop in several countries of the planet, but how can we not see that thousands of human beings less, and a cut in savings means less consumption and less pollution! Besides, the delighted ecologists say that the air is purer, that we hear birds singing and that ducks are walking happily in Paris. In a magnificent and moving effort to help the Chinese Communist dictatorship, the World Health Organization said that the coronavirus was not contagious, that people from Wuhan could fly freely to cities like Milan, Paris, London or New York where they brought the virus with them. The World Health Organization lied, of course, but it was for a good cause ... A little later, the World Health Organization said that the disease it called Covid 19 would kill 3.4 percent of those affected, which led to catastrophic forecasts of millions of deaths, and caused panic effects. The World Health Organization lied again, but the panic was so great! The obnoxious Donald Trump, a dirty guy who is attached to freedom and to Western civilization and to full employment (what a horror!), Dares to attack the World Health Organization and refuse to finance it any longer , when she behaved so well. He even dares to say that the Chinese Communist dictatorship is guilty of something! What an abominable being! Fortunately, artists have taken an initiative which shows that there are still people who have an ethic and an elevation of soul. They are organizing a concert in support of the World Health Organization so that it has the funds to keep it lying, and they are right. It would be terrible if the Chinese Communist dictatorship could no longer have the precious and untrue aid from the World Health Organization. I have no doubt that in their momentum, the same artists will organize a little later a concert in support of the sympathetic Xi Jinping, who must suffer terribly from being so badly rewarded for his efforts. He is a delicate being, and I have no doubt that the artists who will participate in the concert know this and will do something. Could I suggest that at the end of the concert, an effigy of the obnoxious Donald Trump and a few American flags be burned and that all the artists haunt in chorus the Chinese national anthem and the International. My suggestion will not be accepted, I know…. It would however allow a very fitting and very adequate apotheosis. I have no doubt that the families of the dead, hospitalized patients and all the unemployed and whose business has gone bankrupt will watch the spectacle with the appropriate emotion and will find that the watchword: “Together at Home” , together at home, is superb and galvanizing. Its true no ? Anyone can stay at home indefinitely. No one wants to go back to work. No one has to make a living by working. No one has month-end problems. It's a nice ideal: staying at home sitting on a sofa, watching TV and listening to artists (who themselves have no end-of-month problems either) encourage them to give money to an organization that is closely guided by the Chinese Communist Party. The organization that came up with the idea for the concert is called Global Citizen, global citizen. A name which ignores the borders and the difference between democracy and dictatorship, and which places itself at the service of the largest dictatorship in the world, to "end extreme poverty". If it's not a great idea, I don't know what a great idea is. I have placed a photo of Mao as an illustration against the backdrop of a blazing red flag. Mao in his day had ended the extreme poverty of millions of Chinese people by ending the lives of millions of Chinese people. He was a great pioneer, and an ecologist ahead of his time: eliminating millions of human beings is a great gesture for the planet. Xi Jinping is his disciple, and Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, Director of WHO, is the disciple of Xi Jinping. www.dreuz.info/2020/04/19/vive-loms-vive-le-communisme-chinois-bravo-aux-artistes-que-soutiennent-loms-et-le-communisme-chinois/ The first documentary movie on CCP virus, Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus (disclaimer, this documentary was funded by Falun Gong)
World Health Organisation: seems they did wrong too
Donald Trump: also did wrong and the deaths of thousands of his citzens should be upon him. And if the way to avoid responsabilities is blaming others, don't forget that the so called "spanish" flu, which killed 25 to 50 million people, started in Kansas and was silenced by US Goverment
(not only Trump did wrong, als my president, most of here's PM, and many other politicians)
(article translated to English) "The Chinese Communist dictatorship has generously donated to the world the coronavirus which has killed tens of thousands of people and is causing economies to stop in several countries of the planet, but how can we not see that thousands of human beings less, and a cut in savings means less consumption and less pollution! Besides, the delighted ecologists say that the air is purer, that we hear birds singing and that ducks are walking happily in Paris. In a magnificent and moving effort to help the Chinese Communist dictatorship, the World Health Organization said that the coronavirus was not contagious, that people from Wuhan could fly freely to cities like Milan, Paris, London or New York where they brought the virus with them. The World Health Organization lied, of course, but it was for a good cause ... A little later, the World Health Organization said that the disease it called Covid 19 would kill 3.4 percent of those affected, which led to catastrophic forecasts of millions of deaths, and caused panic effects. The World Health Organization lied again, but the panic was so great! The obnoxious Donald Trump, a dirty guy who is attached to freedom and to Western civilization and to full employment (what a horror!), Dares to attack the World Health Organization and refuse to finance it any longer , when she behaved so well. He even dares to say that the Chinese Communist dictatorship is guilty of something! What an abominable being! Fortunately, artists have taken an initiative which shows that there are still people who have an ethic and an elevation of soul. They are organizing a concert in support of the World Health Organization so that it has the funds to keep it lying, and they are right. It would be terrible if the Chinese Communist dictatorship could no longer have the precious and untrue aid from the World Health Organization. I have no doubt that in their momentum, the same artists will organize a little later a concert in support of the sympathetic Xi Jinping, who must suffer terribly from being so badly rewarded for his efforts. He is a delicate being, and I have no doubt that the artists who will participate in the concert know this and will do something. Could I suggest that at the end of the concert, an effigy of the obnoxious Donald Trump and a few American flags be burned and that all the artists haunt in chorus the Chinese national anthem and the International. My suggestion will not be accepted, I know…. It would however allow a very fitting and very adequate apotheosis. I have no doubt that the families of the dead, hospitalized patients and all the unemployed and whose business has gone bankrupt will watch the spectacle with the appropriate emotion and will find that the watchword: “Together at Home” , together at home, is superb and galvanizing. Its true no ? Anyone can stay at home indefinitely. No one wants to go back to work. No one has to make a living by working. No one has month-end problems. It's a nice ideal: staying at home sitting on a sofa, watching TV and listening to artists (who themselves have no end-of-month problems either) encourage them to give money to an organization that is closely guided by the Chinese Communist Party. The organization that came up with the idea for the concert is called Global Citizen, global citizen. A name which ignores the borders and the difference between democracy and dictatorship, and which places itself at the service of the largest dictatorship in the world, to "end extreme poverty". If it's not a great idea, I don't know what a great idea is. I have placed a photo of Mao as an illustration against the backdrop of a blazing red flag. Mao in his day had ended the extreme poverty of millions of Chinese people by ending the lives of millions of Chinese people. He was a great pioneer, and an ecologist ahead of his time: eliminating millions of human beings is a great gesture for the planet. Xi Jinping is his disciple, and Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, Director of WHO, is the disciple of Xi Jinping. www.dreuz.info/2020/04/19/vive-loms-vive-le-communisme-chinois-bravo-aux-artistes-que-soutiennent-loms-et-le-communisme-chinois/ The first documentary movie on CCP virus, Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus (disclaimer, this documentary was funded by Falun Gong) Chinese goverment: they did wrong World Health Organisation: seems they did wrong too Donald Trump: also did wrong and the deaths of thousands of his citzens should be upon him. And if the way to avoid responsabilities is blaming others, don't forget that the so called "spanish" flu, which killed 25 to 50 million people, started in Kansas and was silenced by US Goverment (not only Trump did wrong, als my president, most of here's PM, and many other politicians) |
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