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Collectors sales & purchases, by Armagideon Times on Jul 26, 2020 8:28:28 GMT 1, Have you been scammed, taken for a ride, felt uncomfortable about a sale?
As we all know they are people who will try to get something for nothing,
When you are selling do you notice a particular tone to the conversation that makes you feel like its not right,
Are you a collector who buys and sells a few items frequently,
Do you have terms and conditions that you work with?
looking at information sharing and advice to help our fellow collectors,
As a buyer, have you experienced anything that makes you feel you wouldn't want to buy from someone, for example, you may be worried after payment is sent you won't receive your art.
thanks in advance
Have you been scammed, taken for a ride, felt uncomfortable about a sale?
As we all know they are people who will try to get something for nothing,
When you are selling do you notice a particular tone to the conversation that makes you feel like its not right,
Are you a collector who buys and sells a few items frequently,
Do you have terms and conditions that you work with?
looking at information sharing and advice to help our fellow collectors,
As a buyer, have you experienced anything that makes you feel you wouldn't want to buy from someone, for example, you may be worried after payment is sent you won't receive your art.
thanks in advance
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iamzero
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Collectors sales & purchases, by iamzero on Jul 26, 2020 13:21:21 GMT 1, Are you offering counselling?
Are you offering counselling?
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Winks
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Collectors sales & purchases, by Winks on Jul 26, 2020 13:26:57 GMT 1, Are you offering counselling?
Maybe art buying insurance
Are you offering counselling? Maybe art buying insurance |
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Collectors sales & purchases, by Armagideon Times on Jul 26, 2020 13:39:41 GMT 1, Iโm not offering anything, Iโm seeing how people deal with idiots who try and scam sellers
Iโm not offering anything, Iโm seeing how people deal with idiots who try and scam sellers
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Winks
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Collectors sales & purchases, by Winks on Jul 26, 2020 13:46:58 GMT 1, I usually say โSimon says are you a scammer?โ
They then have to answer
I usually say โSimon says are you a scammer?โ
They then have to answer
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Collectors sales & purchases, by Armagideon Times on Jul 26, 2020 13:48:09 GMT 1, I donโt understand your angle
I donโt understand your angle
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dotdot
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Collectors sales & purchases, by dotdot on Jul 26, 2020 14:06:16 GMT 1, a few things.
here there are lot of buyers - so there is potentially a lot of money unregulated - sales.
therefore potentially enough scammers to bring real pain to victims.
seller ? trust no one.
buyer - trust no one.
seller - selling to somone who joined last week - why ?
buyer - buying from someone who joined last week - why ?
buyer - buying from someone who in the past has brought an attitude which you might not agree with - well ... be realistic - move on.
seller .... as above - move on.
t& cs in general - anyone's guess - keep your head - don't rush anyone , & crucially refrain from entering or threatening into illegal activity-> something which i'm aware has been occurring *here* recently.
..i could go on - but it's sunday - another day of rest 
i'll leave it to the shysters or those who have fallen victim to chip in - where there are spondolicks you will *always* find scammers ....
a few things. here there are lot of buyers - so there is potentially a lot of money unregulated - sales. therefore potentially enough scammers to bring real pain to victims. seller ? trust no one. buyer - trust no one. seller - selling to somone who joined last week - why ? buyer - buying from someone who joined last week - why ? buyer - buying from someone who in the past has brought an attitude which you might not agree with - well ... be realistic - move on. seller .... as above - move on. t& cs in general - anyone's guess - keep your head - don't rush anyone , & crucially refrain from entering or threatening into illegal activity-> something which i'm aware has been occurring *here* recently. ..i could go on - but it's sunday - another day of rest i'll leave it to the shysters or those who have fallen victim to chip in - where there are spondolicks you will * always* find scammers .... |
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Lazarus II
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Collectors sales & purchases, by Lazarus II on Jul 26, 2020 14:38:07 GMT 1, Iโm not offering anything, Iโm seeing how people deal with idiots who try and scam sellers
we are the idiots !
Iโm not offering anything, Iโm seeing how people deal with idiots who try and scam sellers we are the idiots ! |
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esfer
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Collectors sales & purchases, by esfer on Jul 26, 2020 20:03:05 GMT 1, I think you should deal with people that have a respectable reputation. If you can't figure out if they have a good reputation, then it's not worth going through with the transaction.
Unless you are the seller.
In which case, you will get paid first (clear the bank) before you ship the item, with full insurance and 100% tracking.
Also, don't ship to countries that don't have honourable post office tracking services, like China (and probably many other countries). If you do ship to these countries, and the buyer says they never received the package, you will have very little, if any, recourse.
I have bought and sold many pieces of art over the last 25 years. I have never been ripped off completely, but scumbags have tried on several occasions.
If you send a package, and the buyer states they didn't receive the item, when the Post office or shipping company states it was "delivered to mailbox" or "left on doorstep", you have a problem that can difficult or costly (or both)to deal with. The post not delivering the package directly to the person, can open an opportunity for a less than honourable buyer to try for a full refund and the merchandise. This has happened to me on multiple ococcasions. If it happens to you, in the USA or Canada (or other countries with good police services) simply tell the buyer that they need to file a police report for stolen goods. Tell the buyer you need a copy of the police report to file a claim.
In every case where this exact situtation occurred to me,the buyers miraculously located the package before needing to call the police.
Good luck!
I think you should deal with people that have a respectable reputation. If you can't figure out if they have a good reputation, then it's not worth going through with the transaction.
Unless you are the seller.
In which case, you will get paid first (clear the bank) before you ship the item, with full insurance and 100% tracking.
Also, don't ship to countries that don't have honourable post office tracking services, like China (and probably many other countries). If you do ship to these countries, and the buyer says they never received the package, you will have very little, if any, recourse.
I have bought and sold many pieces of art over the last 25 years. I have never been ripped off completely, but scumbags have tried on several occasions.
If you send a package, and the buyer states they didn't receive the item, when the Post office or shipping company states it was "delivered to mailbox" or "left on doorstep", you have a problem that can difficult or costly (or both)to deal with. The post not delivering the package directly to the person, can open an opportunity for a less than honourable buyer to try for a full refund and the merchandise. This has happened to me on multiple ococcasions. If it happens to you, in the USA or Canada (or other countries with good police services) simply tell the buyer that they need to file a police report for stolen goods. Tell the buyer you need a copy of the police report to file a claim.
In every case where this exact situtation occurred to me,the buyers miraculously located the package before needing to call the police.
Good luck!
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