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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fะฏ on Dec 15, 2021 11:45:52 GMT 1, Yo Stowe .... questions are ready when you are Also regarding longevity Fairxat ..... Stowe are already a laughing stock with anyone who knows anything in the slightest about art in general and his market
They said to call them if you had an issue, give it a rest
Yo Stowe .... questions are ready when you are Also regarding longevity Fairxat ..... Stowe are already a laughing stock with anyone who knows anything in the slightest about art in general and his market They said to call them if you had an issue, give it a rest |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by 7star on Dec 15, 2021 14:24:06 GMT 1, Stowe ....... still waiting for responses
Stowe ....... still waiting for responses
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by flingading on Dec 15, 2021 14:30:28 GMT 1, Stowe ....... still waiting for responses
Stowe ....... still waiting for responses Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you. |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by buffin on Dec 15, 2021 14:47:22 GMT 1, Stowe ....... still waiting for responses Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you.
But then you might not believe what is relayed to you second hand. Weird that some people are trying to stifle debate on an art forum.
Stowe ....... still waiting for responses Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you. But then you might not believe what is relayed to you second hand. Weird that some people are trying to stifle debate on an art forum. |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by flingading on Dec 15, 2021 15:02:34 GMT 1, Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you. But then you might not believe what is relayed to you second hand. Weird that some people are trying to stifle debate on an art forum.
7star wants answers. Stowe have said weโre happy to talk to you on the phone. Itโs quite common for companies not to get into lengthy discussions/arguments on online forums. This was 7star gets the answers he so desperately wants and he can share them with us if he doesnโt like the answers he gets.
For what itโs worth I agree with his sentiment and think the pricing is ridiculous but thereโs no point screaming behind a keyboard when heโs been offered a way to get the answers he wants.
*Edit - I'd also have a differing view if the debate was about the art itself, but it's about the companies/galleries marketing. They are under no obligation to share that information with us. If 7star feels strongly enough that the marketing is underhand or even illegal then reporting them would have more effect than trying to goad them into an argument online.
Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you. But then you might not believe what is relayed to you second hand. Weird that some people are trying to stifle debate on an art forum. 7star wants answers. Stowe have said weโre happy to talk to you on the phone. Itโs quite common for companies not to get into lengthy discussions/arguments on online forums. This was 7star gets the answers he so desperately wants and he can share them with us if he doesnโt like the answers he gets. For what itโs worth I agree with his sentiment and think the pricing is ridiculous but thereโs no point screaming behind a keyboard when heโs been offered a way to get the answers he wants. *Edit - I'd also have a differing view if the debate was about the art itself, but it's about the companies/galleries marketing. They are under no obligation to share that information with us. If 7star feels strongly enough that the marketing is underhand or even illegal then reporting them would have more effect than trying to goad them into an argument online. |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by astbury on Dec 15, 2021 15:02:39 GMT 1, This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received.
This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity? |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by bonesy on Dec 15, 2021 15:56:56 GMT 1, This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity?
Clown site says donation is minimum 33%
So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print
This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity? Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Lunch Special on Dec 15, 2021 16:00:15 GMT 1, This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity?
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How much have you donated to charity this year in the form of multiple projects? Clown has definitely been putting in work. Rebuilding skateparks, donating boards and shoes to skate camps cleaning up
Areas for kids to skate and the sorts. That work aint free and it ainโt cheap. Talk is cheap. Nuff said. Must be so easy to Start a company off the back of a new widely unknown artist which is what Banksy was in 2000. Drinking beers smoking weed talking about music art the streets and to babes. Yea sounds like a really fake back story.
If the boards were ยฃ800 would it had made a difference? Who here works for the government? Iโm saying ya be asking question like you the feds.
This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity? [/b] How much have you donated to charity this year in the form of multiple projects? Clown has definitely been putting in work. Rebuilding skateparks, donating boards and shoes to skate camps cleaning up Areas for kids to skate and the sorts. That work aint free and it ainโt cheap. Talk is cheap. Nuff said. Must be so easy to Start a company off the back of a new widely unknown artist which is what Banksy was in 2000. Drinking beers smoking weed talking about music art the streets and to babes. Yea sounds like a really fake back story. If the boards were ยฃ800 would it had made a difference? Who here works for the government? Iโm saying ya be asking question like you the feds. |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Newar on Dec 15, 2021 16:04:19 GMT 1, Hopefully i'd buy plenty of popcorn 
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Stowe Gallery on Dec 15, 2021 16:38:29 GMT 1, I just received an email from Jeff and Vikas. Thought everyone would want to read it. FYI, 100% of the proceeds are going to charity.
Again, if anyone has any questions please email us or call us.
Dear Jamie,
Please pass this onto whoever you feel needs to see this, we have nothing to hide, we will not go into a forum to post. Forums are for fans, collectors, enthusiasts and probably some flippers, which is a shame. We as an organisation and a CIC have no place in forums to comment and have never done so, it's for the people we mentioned above. You should also step out of that world mate, leave it to fans, collectors, enthusiasts, it their own space to deduce what they feel, whatever that may be.
WE are a bit confused why this situation has arrived, maybe we all were not clear enough on the communications about this release being solely to raise funds for the CIC as a triptych release which we have never done in past, and a one-off thank you print to go with it. We can take some responsibility for that as once again we have tried to do a lot and donโt have the people around us to get everything in place and check everything over, something that this release would have helped us rectify and we hope still can.
After reading the link you and a couple of other people have sent us, we can only state what the real facts are.
For those of you who are wondering, Banksy gave us this image many moons ago before his work needed a COA, before pest control was formed and before his first ever print release with POW. And long before he was the big name he is today, well done mate. This is our pride and joy and will protect it fully, as it was given to us for our hard graft, lots of laughs, quite a few hangovers but mostly for having each otherโs backs, something you donโt forget. We are ecstatic to be the only ones able to use this image for Clown and In Action.
Thanks mate.
Jeff and Vikas
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Hope this clears up the release and puts peoples minds at rest.
Stowe.
I just received an email from Jeff and Vikas. Thought everyone would want to read it. FYI, 100% of the proceeds are going to charity.
Again, if anyone has any questions please email us or call us.
Dear Jamie,
Please pass this onto whoever you feel needs to see this, we have nothing to hide, we will not go into a forum to post. Forums are for fans, collectors, enthusiasts and probably some flippers, which is a shame. We as an organisation and a CIC have no place in forums to comment and have never done so, it's for the people we mentioned above. You should also step out of that world mate, leave it to fans, collectors, enthusiasts, it their own space to deduce what they feel, whatever that may be.
WE are a bit confused why this situation has arrived, maybe we all were not clear enough on the communications about this release being solely to raise funds for the CIC as a triptych release which we have never done in past, and a one-off thank you print to go with it. We can take some responsibility for that as once again we have tried to do a lot and donโt have the people around us to get everything in place and check everything over, something that this release would have helped us rectify and we hope still can.
After reading the link you and a couple of other people have sent us, we can only state what the real facts are.
For those of you who are wondering, Banksy gave us this image many moons ago before his work needed a COA, before pest control was formed and before his first ever print release with POW. And long before he was the big name he is today, well done mate. This is our pride and joy and will protect it fully, as it was given to us for our hard graft, lots of laughs, quite a few hangovers but mostly for having each otherโs backs, something you donโt forget. We are ecstatic to be the only ones able to use this image for Clown and In Action.
Thanks mate.
Jeff and Vikas
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Hope this clears up the release and puts peoples minds at rest.
Stowe.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fะฏ on Dec 15, 2021 16:45:00 GMT 1, How much have you donated to charity this year in the form of multiple projects? Clown has definitely been putting in work. Rebuilding skateparks, donating boards and shoes to skate camps cleaning up Areas for kids to skate and the sorts. That work aint free and it ainโt cheap. Talk is cheap. Nuff said. Must be so easy to Start a company off the back of a new widely unknown artist which is what Banksy was in 2000. Drinking beers smoking weed talking about music art the streets and to babes. Yea sounds like a really fake back story. If the boards were ยฃ800 would it had made a difference? Who here works for the government? Iโm saying ya be asking question like you the feds. He wasn't asking clown he was asking stowe. I'm also very interested in how much is being skimmed off the top of this fundraiser by the gallery. It's all got a dodgy stench about it.
stop. just stop. it is embarassing.
How much have you donated to charity this year in the form of multiple projects? Clown has definitely been putting in work. Rebuilding skateparks, donating boards and shoes to skate camps cleaning up Areas for kids to skate and the sorts. That work aint free and it ainโt cheap. Talk is cheap. Nuff said. Must be so easy to Start a company off the back of a new widely unknown artist which is what Banksy was in 2000. Drinking beers smoking weed talking about music art the streets and to babes. Yea sounds like a really fake back story. If the boards were ยฃ800 would it had made a difference? Who here works for the government? Iโm saying ya be asking question like you the feds. He wasn't asking clown he was asking stowe. I'm also very interested in how much is being skimmed off the top of this fundraiser by the gallery. It's all got a dodgy stench about it. stop. just stop. it is embarassing. |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fะฏ on Dec 15, 2021 16:53:12 GMT 1, great, now you can enjoy the skateboards you are about to buy safe in the knowledge all is well.
great, now you can enjoy the skateboards you are about to buy safe in the knowledge all is well.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fairxat on Dec 15, 2021 19:08:33 GMT 1, FYI, 100% of the proceeds are going to charity. A bit strange that was never mentioned in any communication and wasn't answered when asked on here but hey, that's excellent, thanks for clarifying.
and if you are still not sure
www.fundraisingregulator.org.uk/complaints/make-complaint
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fะฏ on Dec 15, 2021 19:15:43 GMT 1,
Wow. Another embarassing member
Wow. Another embarassing member |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fairxat on Dec 15, 2021 19:59:58 GMT 1, Wow. Another embarassing member
Wow. Another embarassing member[/quote]
Pot calling the kettle black! You have good form
Too easy quoting charities, to get sales from genuine donators or attract sales just to line greedy pockets! Not implying such here, just if the member is so concerned, it can be looked into
Wow. Another embarassing member Wow. Another embarassing member[/quote] Pot calling the kettle black! You have good form Too easy quoting charities, to get sales from genuine donators or attract sales just to line greedy pockets! Not implying such here, just if the member is so concerned, it can be looked into |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by B- on Dec 15, 2021 21:44:42 GMT 1, How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity? Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print Clown site says 33%, Clown email says 100%?
What a circus.
How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity? Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print Clown site says 33%, Clown email says 100%?
What a circus.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Daylight Robber on Dec 15, 2021 22:38:10 GMT 1, Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print Clown site says 33%, Clown email says 100%?
What a circus.
Yep, there's a fair bit of ambiguity. Stating that 100% of proceeds will be given to charity doesn't mean anything unless it is declared as gross proceeds, or net.
They wouldn't be lying if they deducted a large sum as expenses before declaring what remained as proceeds.
Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print Clown site says 33%, Clown email says 100%?
What a circus.
Yep, there's a fair bit of ambiguity. Stating that 100% of proceeds will be given to charity doesn't mean anything unless it is declared as gross proceeds, or net. They wouldn't be lying if they deducted a large sum as expenses before declaring what remained as proceeds. |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Dice on Dec 15, 2021 23:49:55 GMT 1, Stowe just deleted their last post saying that 100% of the money made after print costs would be going to charity. Why did they delete it?? Wasnโt quick enough to quote it unfortunately.
This is a classic case of how NOT to go about a charity fund raiser. Too many questions. Too many people involved. Not enough answers forthcoming.
Firstly there is no mention of charity on the Stowe website for the decks.
stowe-gallery.com/
Although clown alludes to a charitable organisation in their recent email no mention is made of this release being for charity or the percentage of turnover going to charity.
mailchi.mp/clownskateboards.com/doing-this-together?e=7da95482bd
Transparency is key here. Stowes record of ripping off Banksy via Mason Storm does them no favours and personally I will be steering well clear of this release, charity or not.
Stowe just deleted their last post saying that 100% of the money made after print costs would be going to charity. Why did they delete it?? Wasnโt quick enough to quote it unfortunately. This is a classic case of how NOT to go about a charity fund raiser. Too many questions. Too many people involved. Not enough answers forthcoming. Firstly there is no mention of charity on the Stowe website for the decks. stowe-gallery.com/Although clown alludes to a charitable organisation in their recent email no mention is made of this release being for charity or the percentage of turnover going to charity. mailchi.mp/clownskateboards.com/doing-this-together?e=7da95482bdTransparency is key here. Stowes record of ripping off Banksy via Mason Storm does them no favours and personally I will be steering well clear of this release, charity or not. |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by B- on Dec 15, 2021 23:55:20 GMT 1, Stowe just deleted their last post saying that 100% of the money made after print costs would be going to charity. Why did they delete it?? Wasnโt quick enough to quote it unfortunately. This is a classic case of how NOT to go about a charity fund raiser. Too many questions. Too many people involved. Not enough answers forthcoming. Firstly there is no mention of charity on the Stowe website for the decks. stowe-gallery.com/Although clown alludes to a charitable organisation in their recent email no mention is made of this release being for charity or the percentage of turnover going to charity. mailchi.mp/clownskateboards.com/doing-this-together?e=7da95482bdTransparency is key here. Stowes record of ripping off Banksy via Mason Storm does them no favours and personally I will be steering well clear of this release, charity or not.
Stowe just deleted their last post saying that 100% of the money made after print costs would be going to charity. Why did they delete it?? Wasnโt quick enough to quote it unfortunately. This is a classic case of how NOT to go about a charity fund raiser. Too many questions. Too many people involved. Not enough answers forthcoming. Firstly there is no mention of charity on the Stowe website for the decks. stowe-gallery.com/Although clown alludes to a charitable organisation in their recent email no mention is made of this release being for charity or the percentage of turnover going to charity. mailchi.mp/clownskateboards.com/doing-this-together?e=7da95482bdTransparency is key here. Stowes record of ripping off Banksy via Mason Storm does them no favours and personally I will be steering well clear of this release, charity or not. Not to mention Stowe/Jamie Marchant's previous form for outright lying via multiple accounts here and him selling multiple fake Banksy's. |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 0:11:03 GMT 1, Stowe just deleted their last post saying that 100% of the money made after print costs would be going to charity. Why did they delete it?? Wasnโt quick enough to quote it unfortunately. This is a classic case of how NOT to go about a charity fund raiser. Too many questions. Too many people involved. Not enough answers forthcoming. Firstly there is no mention of charity on the Stowe website for the decks. stowe-gallery.com/Although clown alludes to a charitable organisation in their recent email no mention is made of this release being for charity or the percentage of turnover going to charity. mailchi.mp/clownskateboards.com/doing-this-together?e=7da95482bdTransparency is key here. Stowes record of ripping off Banksy via Mason Storm does them no favours and personally I will be steering well clear of this release, charity or not. Not to mention Stowe/Jamie Marchant's previous form for outright lying via multiple accounts here and him selling multiple fake Banksy's.
urbanartassociation.com/thread/154677/new-print-internacional-paco-pomet?page=3
Stowe just deleted their last post saying that 100% of the money made after print costs would be going to charity. Why did they delete it?? Wasnโt quick enough to quote it unfortunately. This is a classic case of how NOT to go about a charity fund raiser. Too many questions. Too many people involved. Not enough answers forthcoming. Firstly there is no mention of charity on the Stowe website for the decks. stowe-gallery.com/Although clown alludes to a charitable organisation in their recent email no mention is made of this release being for charity or the percentage of turnover going to charity. mailchi.mp/clownskateboards.com/doing-this-together?e=7da95482bdTransparency is key here. Stowes record of ripping off Banksy via Mason Storm does them no favours and personally I will be steering well clear of this release, charity or not. Not to mention Stowe/Jamie Marchant's previous form for outright lying via multiple accounts here and him selling multiple fake Banksy's. ? urbanartassociation.com/thread/154677/new-print-internacional-paco-pomet?page=3 |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Lunch Special on Dec 16, 2021 14:15:22 GMT 1, I just received an email from Jeff and Vikas. Thought everyone would want to read it. FYI, 100% of the proceeds are going to charity. Again, if anyone has any questions please email us or call us. Dear Jamie, Please pass this onto whoever you feel needs to see this, we have nothing to hide, we will not go into a forum to post. Forums are for fans, collectors, enthusiasts and probably some flippers, which is a shame. We as an organisation and a CIC have no place in forums to comment and have never done so, it's for the people we mentioned above. You should also step out of that world mate, leave it to fans, collectors, enthusiasts, it their own space to deduce what they feel, whatever that may be. WE are a bit confused why this situation has arrived, maybe we all were not clear enough on the communications about this release being solely to raise funds for the CIC as a triptych release which we have never done in past, and a one-off thank you print to go with it. We can take some responsibility for that as once again we have tried to do a lot and donโt have the people around us to get everything in place and check everything over, something that this release would have helped us rectify and we hope still can. After reading the link you and a couple of other people have sent us, we can only state what the real facts are. For those of you who are wondering, Banksy gave us this image many moons ago before his work needed a COA, before pest control was formed and before his first ever print release with POW. And long before he was the big name he is today, well done mate. This is our pride and joy and will protect it fully, as it was given to us for our hard graft, lots of laughs, quite a few hangovers but mostly for having each otherโs backs, something you donโt forget. We are ecstatic to be the only ones able to use this image for Clown and In Action. Thanks mate. Jeff and Vikas โโโโโโ- Hope this clears up the release and puts peoples minds at rest. Stowe.
Stop explaining yourself about your work with clown.
This place is full of them. ๐คก
I just received an email from Jeff and Vikas. Thought everyone would want to read it. FYI, 100% of the proceeds are going to charity. Again, if anyone has any questions please email us or call us. Dear Jamie, Please pass this onto whoever you feel needs to see this, we have nothing to hide, we will not go into a forum to post. Forums are for fans, collectors, enthusiasts and probably some flippers, which is a shame. We as an organisation and a CIC have no place in forums to comment and have never done so, it's for the people we mentioned above. You should also step out of that world mate, leave it to fans, collectors, enthusiasts, it their own space to deduce what they feel, whatever that may be. WE are a bit confused why this situation has arrived, maybe we all were not clear enough on the communications about this release being solely to raise funds for the CIC as a triptych release which we have never done in past, and a one-off thank you print to go with it. We can take some responsibility for that as once again we have tried to do a lot and donโt have the people around us to get everything in place and check everything over, something that this release would have helped us rectify and we hope still can. After reading the link you and a couple of other people have sent us, we can only state what the real facts are. For those of you who are wondering, Banksy gave us this image many moons ago before his work needed a COA, before pest control was formed and before his first ever print release with POW. And long before he was the big name he is today, well done mate. This is our pride and joy and will protect it fully, as it was given to us for our hard graft, lots of laughs, quite a few hangovers but mostly for having each otherโs backs, something you donโt forget. We are ecstatic to be the only ones able to use this image for Clown and In Action. Thanks mate. Jeff and Vikas โโโโโโ- Hope this clears up the release and puts peoples minds at rest. Stowe. Stop explaining yourself about your work with clown. This place is full of them. ๐คก |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by 7star on Dec 16, 2021 14:28:35 GMT 1, No idea why you're saying for them to stop explaining themselves when they haven't even started
One source saying 33%
Another saying 100%
Screams dodgy from a mile away
Pest Control have yet to respond to an email they received
No idea why you're saying for them to stop explaining themselves when they haven't even started
One source saying 33%
Another saying 100%
Screams dodgy from a mile away
Pest Control have yet to respond to an email they received
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fairxat on Dec 17, 2021 4:19:29 GMT 1, Whoโs buying?
Todayโs the lucky day! ๐๐ฉ๐ปโ๐ฆฏ
Whoโs buying?
Todayโs the lucky day! ๐๐ฉ๐ปโ๐ฆฏ
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by case on Dec 17, 2021 7:57:44 GMT 1, Whoโs buying? Todayโs the lucky day! ๐๐ฉ๐ปโ๐ฆฏ
Usually everybody who says it is crap.
Whoโs buying? Todayโs the lucky day! ๐๐ฉ๐ปโ๐ฆฏ Usually everybody who says it is crap. |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by irl1 on Dec 17, 2021 10:30:00 GMT 1, Whoโs buying? Todayโs the lucky day! ๐๐ฉ๐ปโ๐ฆฏ
Clown Skateboards In Action is a Community interest company: 13424776
ยฃ8,000.00
Please fill in your details below and if successful, a member of our team
will send a payment link for the artwork. Application open for 24 hours only.
stowe-gallery.com/pages/application?
Whoโs buying? Todayโs the lucky day! ๐๐ฉ๐ปโ๐ฆฏ 100% of the profits will be donated to Clown Skateboards In Action Clown Skateboards In Action is a Community interest company: 13424776 ยฃ8,000.00 Please fill in your details below and if successful, a member of our team will send a payment link for the artwork. Application open for 24 hours only. stowe-gallery.com/pages/application? |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 11:21:19 GMT 1, FYI, 100% of the proceeds are going to charity.
FYI, 100% of the proceeds are going to charity. 100% of the profits will be donated to Clown Skateboards In Action: 13424776 |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by .dappy on Dec 17, 2021 11:40:35 GMT 1,
... a community interest company (CIC) is a non-charitable limited company ...
... they are generally funded off their traded income and some grants ... ie not donations ...
... however, never mind that this has turned into a bit of a mess ... CICs do some great work and should be supported ...
... a community interest company (CIC) is a non-charitable limited company ...
... they are generally funded off their traded income and some grants ... ie not donations ...
... however, never mind that this has turned into a bit of a mess ... CICs do some great work and should be supported ...
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by met on Dec 17, 2021 12:55:34 GMT 1, Whoโs buying? Todayโs the lucky day! ๐๐ฉ๐ปโ๐ฆฏ 100% of the profits will be donated to Clown Skateboards In Action Clown Skateboards In Action is a Community interest company: 13424776 ยฃ8,000.00 Please fill in your details below and if successful, a member of our team will send a payment link for the artwork. Application open for 24 hours only. stowe-gallery.com/pages/application?
Anyone who's paying attention will know "100% of the profits" could mean anything. It therefore means nothing.
This kind of statement is deliberately opaque โ while cynically feigning clarity.
It's a deceptive way of doing business, especially when also making a song and dance about a cause that will supposedly benefit.
__________
To my fellow members with critical minds, it's always worth examining the choice of words that are often carefully selected by chancers.
A simple exaggerated illustration:
When selling edition X for ยฃ8,000, Joe Scammer might allocate 99.8% of the total proceeds to overhead, materials, salaries, bonuses, other operating expenses, "admin", what is euphemistically listed on invoices as 'fruit and flowers', random fees, etc.
The 0.2% left over might be donated to Save the Children.
In a self-congratulatory and still technically-accurate manner, Joe Scammer could then proclaim to the whole world that, "100% of the profits from our sale went to charity! Yay us!!!"
If there is zero transparency being offered on the specific net amount to be received by the relevant cause, then any reference to "donation" is best avoided โ as a matter of decency.
__________
Robert Del Naja did things the right way last year, in favour of Bristol Food Union.*
His is the example to be followed:
Absolutely. But at the same time, when purporting to raise money for a charitable cause, full transparency is the only correct way to proceed. Frankly, no other way is ethically acceptable. There should never be any ambiguity, scope for dodginess, or even room for suspicion that the charity banner is possibly being abused โ as is the case when unhelpfully vague references are made, like "All profits will go to [x]". So this is less a comment about what Robert Del Na ja is doing right, than about what others are doing poorly.
Whoโs buying? Todayโs the lucky day! ๐๐ฉ๐ปโ๐ฆฏ 100% of the profits will be donated to Clown Skateboards In Action Clown Skateboards In Action is a Community interest company: 13424776 ยฃ8,000.00 Please fill in your details below and if successful, a member of our team will send a payment link for the artwork. Application open for 24 hours only. stowe-gallery.com/pages/application?Anyone who's paying attention will know "100% of the profits" could mean anything. It therefore means nothing. This kind of statement is deliberately opaque โ while cynically feigning clarity. It's a deceptive way of doing business, especially when also making a song and dance about a cause that will supposedly benefit. __________ To my fellow members with critical minds, it's always worth examining the choice of words that are often carefully selected by chancers. A simple exaggerated illustration:
When selling edition X for ยฃ8,000, Joe Scammer might allocate 99.8% of the total proceeds to overhead, materials, salaries, bonuses, other operating expenses, "admin", what is euphemistically listed on invoices as 'fruit and flowers', random fees, etc.
The 0.2% left over might be donated to Save the Children.
In a self-congratulatory and still technically-accurate manner, Joe Scammer could then proclaim to the whole world that, "100% of the profits from our sale went to charity! Yay us!!!"If there is zero transparency being offered on the specific net amount to be received by the relevant cause, then any reference to "donation" is best avoided โ as a matter of decency. __________ Robert Del Naja did things the right way last year, in favour of Bristol Food Union. *His is the example to be followed: Absolutely. But at the same time, when purporting to raise money for a charitable cause, full transparency is the only correct way to proceed. Frankly, no other way is ethically acceptable. There should never be any ambiguity, scope for dodginess, or even room for suspicion that the charity banner is possibly being abused โ as is the case when unhelpfully vague references are made, like "All profits will go to [x]". So this is less a comment about what Robert Del Na ja is doing right, than about what others are doing poorly. |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by irl1 on Dec 17, 2021 14:18:32 GMT 1, 100% of the profits will be donated to Clown Skateboards In Action Clown Skateboards In Action is a Community interest company: 13424776 ยฃ8,000.00 Please fill in your details below and if successful, a member of our team will send a payment link for the artwork. Application open for 24 hours only. stowe-gallery.com/pages/application?Anyone who's paying attention will know "100% of the profits" could mean anything. It therefore means nothing. This kind of statement is deliberately opaque โ while cynically feigning clarity. It's a deceptive way of doing business, especially when also making a song and dance about a cause that will supposedly benefit. __________ To my fellow members with critical minds, it's always worth examining the choice of words that are often carefully selected by chancers. A simple exaggerated illustration:
When selling edition X for ยฃ8,000, Joe Scammer might allocate 99.8% of the total proceeds to overhead, materials, salaries, bonuses, other operating expenses, "admin", what is euphemistically listed on invoices as 'fruit and flowers', random fees, etc.
The 0.2% left over might be donated to Save the Children.
In a self-congratulatory and still technically-accurate manner, Joe Scammer could then proclaim to the whole world that, "100% of the profits from our sale went to charity! Yay us!!!"If there is zero transparency being offered on the specific net amount to be received by the relevant cause, then any reference to "donation" is best avoided โ as a matter of decency. __________ Robert Del Naja did things the right way last year, in favour of Bristol Food Union. *His is the example to be followed: Absolutely. But at the same time, when purporting to raise money for a charitable cause, full transparency is the only correct way to proceed. Frankly, no other way is ethically acceptable. There should never be any ambiguity, scope for dodginess, or even room for suspicion that the charity banner is possibly being abused โ as is the case when unhelpfully vague references are made, like "All profits will go to [x]". So this is less a comment about what Robert Del Na ja is doing right, than about what others are doing poorly.
I think we have a fair idea what will be donated to Charity from these new ones
100% of the profits will be donated to Clown Skateboards In Action Clown Skateboards In Action is a Community interest company: 13424776 ยฃ8,000.00 Please fill in your details below and if successful, a member of our team will send a payment link for the artwork. Application open for 24 hours only. stowe-gallery.com/pages/application?Anyone who's paying attention will know "100% of the profits" could mean anything. It therefore means nothing. This kind of statement is deliberately opaque โ while cynically feigning clarity. It's a deceptive way of doing business, especially when also making a song and dance about a cause that will supposedly benefit. __________ To my fellow members with critical minds, it's always worth examining the choice of words that are often carefully selected by chancers. A simple exaggerated illustration:
When selling edition X for ยฃ8,000, Joe Scammer might allocate 99.8% of the total proceeds to overhead, materials, salaries, bonuses, other operating expenses, "admin", what is euphemistically listed on invoices as 'fruit and flowers', random fees, etc.
The 0.2% left over might be donated to Save the Children.
In a self-congratulatory and still technically-accurate manner, Joe Scammer could then proclaim to the whole world that, "100% of the profits from our sale went to charity! Yay us!!!"If there is zero transparency being offered on the specific net amount to be received by the relevant cause, then any reference to "donation" is best avoided โ as a matter of decency. __________ Robert Del Naja did things the right way last year, in favour of Bristol Food Union. *His is the example to be followed: Absolutely. But at the same time, when purporting to raise money for a charitable cause, full transparency is the only correct way to proceed. Frankly, no other way is ethically acceptable. There should never be any ambiguity, scope for dodginess, or even room for suspicion that the charity banner is possibly being abused โ as is the case when unhelpfully vague references are made, like "All profits will go to [x]". So this is less a comment about what Robert Del Na ja is doing right, than about what others are doing poorly. Clown sell decks at ยฃ50 a pop and make a profit I think we have a fair idea what will be donated to Charity from these new ones |
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Happy Shopper on Dec 17, 2021 14:49:34 GMT 1, Anyone who's paying attention will know "100% of the profits" could mean anything. It therefore means nothing. This kind of statement is deliberately opaque โ while cynically feigning clarity. It's a deceptive way of doing business, especially when also making a song and dance about a cause that will supposedly benefit. __________ To my fellow members with critical minds, it's always worth examining the choice of words that are often carefully selected by chancers. A simple exaggerated illustration:
When selling edition X for ยฃ8,000, Joe Scammer might allocate 99.8% of the total proceeds to overhead, materials, salaries, bonuses, other operating expenses, "admin", what is euphemistically listed on invoices as 'fruit and flowers', random fees, etc.
The 0.2% left over might be donated to Save the Children.
In a self-congratulatory and still technically-accurate manner, Joe Scammer could then proclaim to the whole world that, "100% of the profits from our sale went to charity! Yay us!!!"If there is zero transparency being offered on the specific net amount to be received by the relevant cause, then any reference to "donation" is best avoided โ as a matter of decency. __________ Robert Del Naja did things the right way last year, in favour of Bristol Food Union. *His is the example to be followed: Clown sell decks at ยฃ50 a pop and make a profit I think we have a fair idea what will be donated to Charity from these new ones
Of course. The question is how much is Stowe claiming in expenses, before the profit. Gallery rent, gallery staff, materials, packaging.
I'd hope very little, if anything. But just writing "100% of profits" begs the question.
I'm not exactly sure why Stowe are involved in this at all? It's not like Clown aren't used to selling expensive skateboards, etc. What is their purpose in this?
Anyone who's paying attention will know "100% of the profits" could mean anything. It therefore means nothing. This kind of statement is deliberately opaque โ while cynically feigning clarity. It's a deceptive way of doing business, especially when also making a song and dance about a cause that will supposedly benefit. __________ To my fellow members with critical minds, it's always worth examining the choice of words that are often carefully selected by chancers. A simple exaggerated illustration:
When selling edition X for ยฃ8,000, Joe Scammer might allocate 99.8% of the total proceeds to overhead, materials, salaries, bonuses, other operating expenses, "admin", what is euphemistically listed on invoices as 'fruit and flowers', random fees, etc.
The 0.2% left over might be donated to Save the Children.
In a self-congratulatory and still technically-accurate manner, Joe Scammer could then proclaim to the whole world that, "100% of the profits from our sale went to charity! Yay us!!!"If there is zero transparency being offered on the specific net amount to be received by the relevant cause, then any reference to "donation" is best avoided โ as a matter of decency. __________ Robert Del Naja did things the right way last year, in favour of Bristol Food Union. *His is the example to be followed: Clown sell decks at ยฃ50 a pop and make a profit I think we have a fair idea what will be donated to Charity from these new ones Of course. The question is how much is Stowe claiming in expenses, before the profit. Gallery rent, gallery staff, materials, packaging. I'd hope very little, if anything. But just writing "100% of profits" begs the question. I'm not exactly sure why Stowe are involved in this at all? It's not like Clown aren't used to selling expensive skateboards, etc. What is their purpose in this? |
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