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Christie's Art Auctions , by butterfly on Sept 27, 2007 9:46:16 GMT 1, On the 15th October Sothebys is also selling some banksy, but has anyone noticed that Laz is also selling Faile 
browse.sothebys.com/?q=faile
On the 15th October Sothebys is also selling some banksy, but has anyone noticed that Laz is also selling Faile browse.sothebys.com/?q=faile |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by cashman on Sept 27, 2007 10:55:25 GMT 1, i think thats a very bold statement, id like to kno what u think could be worth that Gladly... * First must clarify - I meant to previously post 'first million dollar Banksy.'Are You Using That Chair, Show Me The Monet, Sunflowers from Petrol Station, one of those huge (edition of 3) Happy Chopper canvases, certain big LA canvases (Trolley Hunters, Morons, Girl With Balloon) Or maybe even this: 
million $ I can understand, but your right 1 miillion ยฃ was i little far fetched
i think thats a very bold statement, id like to kno what u think could be worth that Gladly... * First must clarify - I meant to previously post 'first million dollar Banksy.'Are You Using That Chair, Show Me The Monet, Sunflowers from Petrol Station, one of those huge (edition of 3) Happy Chopper canvases, certain big LA canvases (Trolley Hunters, Morons, Girl With Balloon) Or maybe even this: million $ I can understand, but your right 1 miillion ยฃ was i little far fetched |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by yeah7 on Sept 27, 2007 11:13:35 GMT 1, Personally, if the piece "People Di Everyday" came up for auction, I'd guess that'd fetch a $1million easily. IMO, it's by far and away his best piece of work to date.
Personally, if the piece "People Di Everyday" came up for auction, I'd guess that'd fetch a $1million easily. IMO, it's by far and away his best piece of work to date.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Wanksy on Sept 27, 2007 11:38:40 GMT 1, One major problem Banksy has is that all this money raised through Droit de Suite (Artistsโ Resale Rights) is that he canโt claim any of it, not one penny!!! Since itโs a made up name and his/their identity is unknown the company that holds, controls and sends out the cheques refuses to do so for Banksy as he is not a real person. FACT.
You will probably find this particular work will set a record of some sort as itโs the only Banksy that has ever appeared in such a massive Contemporary art sale and Christieโs have the biggest address book in town of Hedge Fund managers. Added to that the biggest collectors in the world will be focusing their interests on the sale room and if they can afford to buy a Francis Bacon est. at ยฃ7-9million then ยฃ300k+ is just pocket change.
Live the dreamโฆ
One major problem Banksy has is that all this money raised through Droit de Suite (Artistsโ Resale Rights) is that he canโt claim any of it, not one penny!!! Since itโs a made up name and his/their identity is unknown the company that holds, controls and sends out the cheques refuses to do so for Banksy as he is not a real person. FACT.
You will probably find this particular work will set a record of some sort as itโs the only Banksy that has ever appeared in such a massive Contemporary art sale and Christieโs have the biggest address book in town of Hedge Fund managers. Added to that the biggest collectors in the world will be focusing their interests on the sale room and if they can afford to buy a Francis Bacon est. at ยฃ7-9million then ยฃ300k+ is just pocket change.
Live the dreamโฆ
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Christie's Art Auctions , by cashman on Sept 27, 2007 11:47:33 GMT 1, One major problem Banksy has is that all this money raised through Droit de Suite (Artistsโ Resale Rights) is that he canโt claim any of it, not one penny!!! Since itโs a made up name and his/their identity is unknown the company that holds, controls and sends out the cheques refuses to do so for Banksy as he is not a real person. FACT. You will probably find this particular work will set a record of some sort as itโs the only Banksy that has ever appeared in such a massive Contemporary art sale and Christieโs have the biggest address book in town of Hedge Fund managers. Added to that the biggest collectors in the world will be focusing their interests on the sale room and if they can afford to buy a Francis Bacon est. at ยฃ7-9million then ยฃ300k+ is just pocket change. Live the dreamโฆ
Thats a little nieve, Banksy will be collecting resale rights otherwise Why would he have originally joined the scheme???
As for noone knowing who he is, most ppl on here kno what the fella looks like
One major problem Banksy has is that all this money raised through Droit de Suite (Artistsโ Resale Rights) is that he canโt claim any of it, not one penny!!! Since itโs a made up name and his/their identity is unknown the company that holds, controls and sends out the cheques refuses to do so for Banksy as he is not a real person. FACT. You will probably find this particular work will set a record of some sort as itโs the only Banksy that has ever appeared in such a massive Contemporary art sale and Christieโs have the biggest address book in town of Hedge Fund managers. Added to that the biggest collectors in the world will be focusing their interests on the sale room and if they can afford to buy a Francis Bacon est. at ยฃ7-9million then ยฃ300k+ is just pocket change. Live the dreamโฆ Thats a little nieve, Banksy will be collecting resale rights otherwise Why would he have originally joined the scheme??? As for noone knowing who he is, most ppl on here kno what the fella looks like |
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Wanksy
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Wanksy on Sept 27, 2007 16:38:14 GMT 1, He may well of signed up to the scheme but WORD on the street is that he can't collect the dosh as cheques has been written out to the Artist 'Banksy' but there is no such person and as far as I know you can't open up a bank account with a false name! OOOPS
He may well of signed up to the scheme but WORD on the street is that he can't collect the dosh as cheques has been written out to the Artist 'Banksy' but there is no such person and as far as I know you can't open up a bank account with a false name! OOOPS
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Christie's Art Auctions , by blacksy on Sept 27, 2007 16:52:50 GMT 1, correct me if i'm worng - but didnt the space girl set the prievious record at an earlier auction this year - going for ยฃ288k
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6592739.stm
now it's clear from the pictures that these are 2 different doors, the brown one having already sold, the more silver one remaining.
lets take a guess on how much the value will have increased in the last 6 months.
I'm gonna stick me neck out and say ยฃ288 in feb/march - ยฃ440 in October
correct me if i'm worng - but didnt the space girl set the prievious record at an earlier auction this year - going for ยฃ288k news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6592739.stmnow it's clear from the pictures that these are 2 different doors, the brown one having already sold, the more silver one remaining. lets take a guess on how much the value will have increased in the last 6 months. I'm gonna stick me neck out and say ยฃ288 in feb/march - ยฃ440 in October |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by tadghostal on Sept 27, 2007 16:53:36 GMT 1, I guarantee you this is not a problem. Banksy has a PR manager, as well as an art manager, and either one of them will have no problem in collecting and then cashing any payments due. Not sure if you've ever noticed before, but banks are more than willing to cash checks for LOTS of non-people, or entities that are not even human beings. What in the world would stop them from cashing checks written to a pseudonym.
How do you think Dr. Seuss was able to collect on his royalties?
He may well of signed up to the scheme but WORD on the street is that he can't collect the dosh as cheques has been written out to the Artist 'Banksy' but there is no such person and as far as I know you can't open up a bank account with a false name! OOOPS
I guarantee you this is not a problem. Banksy has a PR manager, as well as an art manager, and either one of them will have no problem in collecting and then cashing any payments due. Not sure if you've ever noticed before, but banks are more than willing to cash checks for LOTS of non-people, or entities that are not even human beings. What in the world would stop them from cashing checks written to a pseudonym. How do you think Dr. Seuss was able to collect on his royalties? He may well of signed up to the scheme but WORD on the street is that he can't collect the dosh as cheques has been written out to the Artist 'Banksy' but there is no such person and as far as I know you can't open up a bank account with a false name! OOOPS |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by BK83 on Sept 28, 2007 4:40:26 GMT 1, Who is this Wanksy character and where is he getting his info? Cereal boxes?! I mean seriously.
Who is this Wanksy character and where is he getting his info? Cereal boxes?! I mean seriously.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by RBK on Sept 28, 2007 4:49:20 GMT 1, How do you think Dr. Seuss was able to collect on his royalties?
So true!
How do you think Dr. Seuss was able to collect on his royalties? So true! |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by buffruffly on Sept 28, 2007 13:19:41 GMT 1, I have heard that Banksy hasn't really made any money up to now (well not as much as he shoudl have) - and is addressing this - so maybe Wanksy is right.
I have heard that Banksy hasn't really made any money up to now (well not as much as he shoudl have) - and is addressing this - so maybe Wanksy is right.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by cashman on Sept 28, 2007 13:41:04 GMT 1, I have heard that Banksy hasn't really made any money up to now (well not as much as he shoudl have) - and is addressing this - so maybe Wanksy is right.
You are joking right?!?!?!
I have heard that Banksy hasn't really made any money up to now (well not as much as he shoudl have) - and is addressing this - so maybe Wanksy is right. You are joking right?!?!?! |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by minguez on Sept 29, 2007 9:32:00 GMT 1, just had a look in the catalogue for the contemporary day actution...
If Lot 220 has an estiamte of 80 000 - 120 000, then I see no reason why Banksys should not bring in 10x more, and this was just one example...
It does not matter what position in the arthistory some of the artists in that catalogue has made themself...crap is crap, and if people pays 120 000 for Cy Twombly...
For me Banksy makes art that means something, and that actually seems unique in the contemporary art scene...
just had a look in the catalogue for the contemporary day actution...
If Lot 220 has an estiamte of 80 000 - 120 000, then I see no reason why Banksys should not bring in 10x more, and this was just one example...
It does not matter what position in the arthistory some of the artists in that catalogue has made themself...crap is crap, and if people pays 120 000 for Cy Twombly...
For me Banksy makes art that means something, and that actually seems unique in the contemporary art scene...
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on May 14, 2008 21:21:56 GMT 1, Very mixed results so far today. Not nearly as strong as last evening though it's quite obvious that Chamberlain sculptures continue to be in STRONG demand. Warhol did ok. There are quite a number of bought in lots, more than I can recall from a recent morning sale. Yet another in the seemingly endless supply of Hirst Spot paintings brought in $1.25m. We're just about to start the last portion featuring urban art (primarily Harring) but there is one 48 inch square Banksy from '99 (f**k the police) which is estimated at $250-350k which will come under the hammer in about 30 more minutes.
The real fun continues this evening with the big Bacon triptych and there is also an enormous Sale Ends Today Banksy that is less than 2 years old estimated $600-$800k. Fun times...
Very mixed results so far today. Not nearly as strong as last evening though it's quite obvious that Chamberlain sculptures continue to be in STRONG demand. Warhol did ok. There are quite a number of bought in lots, more than I can recall from a recent morning sale. Yet another in the seemingly endless supply of Hirst Spot paintings brought in $1.25m. We're just about to start the last portion featuring urban art (primarily Harring) but there is one 48 inch square Banksy from '99 (f**k the police) which is estimated at $250-350k which will come under the hammer in about 30 more minutes.
The real fun continues this evening with the big Bacon triptych and there is also an enormous Sale Ends Today Banksy that is less than 2 years old estimated $600-$800k. Fun times...
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Michael Jacob on May 14, 2008 21:29:10 GMT 1, Keep us updated, sounds like a great auction to be at in person!
Keep us updated, sounds like a great auction to be at in person!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by RBK on May 14, 2008 21:30:16 GMT 1, That Bacon at Sothebys is truly incredible. Did you at least go see it in the flesh?
That Bacon at Sothebys is truly incredible. Did you at least go see it in the flesh?
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on May 14, 2008 21:37:39 GMT 1, I'm not there but did some unsuccessful phone bidding. Now, I'm just watching online. I'm on the west coast, otherwise i would be there in person. I was at the November auctions which was truly incredible to walk amongst and in some cases hold (the best 24 inch Warhol flower painting I've seen to date) a few pieces. I WISH i was there in person as this is the strongest contemporary offering I've seen to date between Christies and Sothebys.
$360m last night for Christie's in what was an incredible success by any measure. But, just to show you how a bad deal can wreck even the best sale - they guaranteed $15 or $16m for the Lichtenstein Ball of Twine which was one of only 3 lots that went unsold and in doing so gave up more than 25% of their sales revenue if one assumes an average commission rate of 15%. Ouch
I'm not there but did some unsuccessful phone bidding. Now, I'm just watching online. I'm on the west coast, otherwise i would be there in person. I was at the November auctions which was truly incredible to walk amongst and in some cases hold (the best 24 inch Warhol flower painting I've seen to date) a few pieces. I WISH i was there in person as this is the strongest contemporary offering I've seen to date between Christies and Sothebys.
$360m last night for Christie's in what was an incredible success by any measure. But, just to show you how a bad deal can wreck even the best sale - they guaranteed $15 or $16m for the Lichtenstein Ball of Twine which was one of only 3 lots that went unsold and in doing so gave up more than 25% of their sales revenue if one assumes an average commission rate of 15%. Ouch
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on May 14, 2008 22:10:00 GMT 1, Bansky Fuck the Police just hammered for $229,000 including premium.
Bansky Fuck the Police just hammered for $229,000 including premium.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by icky on May 14, 2008 22:10:20 GMT 1, "Fuck the Police" failed to reach the estimate of $250-350.000. Ended at $229.000
"Fuck the Police" failed to reach the estimate of $250-350.000. Ended at $229.000
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Christie's Art Auctions , by alsbabar on May 14, 2008 22:12:01 GMT 1, hmmmmmmmmm either the estimate was too high, or the demand for Banksy oieces is slowing down
hmmmmmmmmm either the estimate was too high, or the demand for Banksy oieces is slowing down
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on May 14, 2008 22:13:27 GMT 1, "f**k the Police" failed to reach the estimate of $250-350.000. Ended at $229.000
But the seller obviously agreed to a lower price because this work did sell. The auction houses are good at evaluating interest and coming back to sellers to see if they would accept a lower price. So, despite it not hitting the low end which often refsults in the work being bought in, this painting did in fact sell.
"f**k the Police" failed to reach the estimate of $250-350.000. Ended at $229.000 But the seller obviously agreed to a lower price because this work did sell. The auction houses are good at evaluating interest and coming back to sellers to see if they would accept a lower price. So, despite it not hitting the low end which often refsults in the work being bought in, this painting did in fact sell. |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by alsbabar on May 14, 2008 22:14:37 GMT 1, if it sold for $229,000 then that is a really good buy
if it sold for $229,000 then that is a really good buy
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Christie's Art Auctions , by alsbabar on May 14, 2008 22:35:11 GMT 1, lets wait to see what happens to banksy later at Sothebys new york, see how much his piece sells for then - Type, Fuck the Police is a one off also
lets wait to see what happens to banksy later at Sothebys new york, see how much his piece sells for then - Type, Fuck the Police is a one off also
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Christie's Art Auctions , by RBK on May 14, 2008 22:49:25 GMT 1, I still think that someone like Neate or Parla will eventually eclipse banksy in the high end art world because of the depth and variety of their work (Neate more so in terms of variety.) I don't imagine banksy will care too much and shouldn't (and you would think wouldn't) alter what he did to sell bigger at auctions etc... I would imagine the Sale Ends Now will do well because it's very impressive in the flesh but also because it's unique and not one of an edition of whatever, think people could tire of seeing the same images come up again and again within a short space of time which has been the case at times with banksy at auction.
type - I've said that for a year and still believe it strongly! Slow and steady wins the race! So many people on here don't think in terms of long careers...
I still think that someone like Neate or Parla will eventually eclipse banksy in the high end art world because of the depth and variety of their work (Neate more so in terms of variety.) I don't imagine banksy will care too much and shouldn't (and you would think wouldn't) alter what he did to sell bigger at auctions etc... I would imagine the Sale Ends Now will do well because it's very impressive in the flesh but also because it's unique and not one of an edition of whatever, think people could tire of seeing the same images come up again and again within a short space of time which has been the case at times with banksy at auction. type - I've said that for a year and still believe it strongly! Slow and steady wins the race! So many people on here don't think in terms of long careers... |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on May 15, 2008 1:21:48 GMT 1, 86 million for the Bacon Triptych!
3 for the fright wig. Murakami @ 15! the gold Yves Klein did 23 while his blue did 17. This sale is nuts and has to be Sotheby's best ever. It's not even half way done and already sold $250m worth of art. Banksy coming up...
86 million for the Bacon Triptych!
3 for the fright wig. Murakami @ 15! the gold Yves Klein did 23 while his blue did 17. This sale is nuts and has to be Sotheby's best ever. It's not even half way done and already sold $250m worth of art. Banksy coming up...
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Christie's Art Auctions , by aginghippie on May 15, 2008 1:38:42 GMT 1, Bansky f**k the Police just hammered for $229,000 including premium.
So it sold for less than the Laugh Now at Bonhams the day before. I suppose the Laugh Now is more recognizably Banksy but it wasn't a very good piece.
Bansky f**k the Police just hammered for $229,000 including premium. So it sold for less than the Laugh Now at Bonhams the day before. I suppose the Laugh Now is more recognizably Banksy but it wasn't a very good piece. |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by foreman on May 15, 2008 1:42:53 GMT 1, the banksy could go for quite a bit with these buyers in the room.. damn
the banksy could go for quite a bit with these buyers in the room.. damn
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Christie's Art Auctions , by aginghippie on May 15, 2008 1:52:25 GMT 1, The Sale Ends didn't sell.
The Sale Ends didn't sell.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by alsbabar on May 15, 2008 1:52:32 GMT 1, withdrawn?
withdrawn?
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