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Christie's Art Auctions , by manchestermike on Jun 10, 2008 17:18:29 GMT 1, Frankly Christie's are not the place to sell Banksy prints, I think it's the first time they have offered them. For me the best London print sale is Bloomsbury Auctions. It's not an Urban art sale, but a mixed one and generally they get pretty good prices.
Agreed, wrong sale at the wrong auction house... wish I knew about this one though, that Happy Choppers is an absolute steal
Frankly Christie's are not the place to sell Banksy prints, I think it's the first time they have offered them. For me the best London print sale is Bloomsbury Auctions. It's not an Urban art sale, but a mixed one and generally they get pretty good prices. Agreed, wrong sale at the wrong auction house... wish I knew about this one though, that Happy Choppers is an absolute steal |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Pattycakes on Jun 10, 2008 17:19:41 GMT 1, I would say 100% Andipa bought them all
I would say 100% Andipa bought them all
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Christie's Art Auctions , by They call me Stephen on Jun 10, 2008 17:32:58 GMT 1, any bubble bursting will only really threathen those looking to make a quick buck in the short term future. I for one am looking forward to a calming of prices...it might allow me to pick up prints that otherwise would have been unobtainable and that is a very good thing!! (for me anyway)
any bubble bursting will only really threathen those looking to make a quick buck in the short term future. I for one am looking forward to a calming of prices...it might allow me to pick up prints that otherwise would have been unobtainable and that is a very good thing!! (for me anyway)
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Christie's Art Auctions , by eddiedangerous on Jun 10, 2008 17:43:45 GMT 1, are they the pre or post tax prices, they're the hammer prices, no?
are they the pre or post tax prices, they're the hammer prices, no?
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Christie's Art Auctions , by jones27 on Jun 10, 2008 17:45:04 GMT 1, Its all this 'comtemporary art' talk (mainly about prices and auction houses) which is actually boring..Sadly its happening with Faile too..I hope things calm down, surely the days of getting excited about spoting a new Banksy down Ladbroke grove and getting the opportunity to simply pick up a print off the net is much more fun.
Its all this 'comtemporary art' talk (mainly about prices and auction houses) which is actually boring..Sadly its happening with Faile too..I hope things calm down, surely the days of getting excited about spoting a new Banksy down Ladbroke grove and getting the opportunity to simply pick up a print off the net is much more fun.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Pattycakes on Jun 10, 2008 18:22:24 GMT 1, the prices are with premium which is 25% on the first 25,000 and 20% there after. So the signed Happy Choppers made just over 4K crazy!
the prices are with premium which is 25% on the first 25,000 and 20% there after. So the signed Happy Choppers made just over 4K crazy!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on Jun 10, 2008 18:26:37 GMT 1, I don't follow print sales very much though the Moss sounds like it did just fine as I thought these have been trading between $100-$120k and this was the top end of that range, no? Are the others higher or lower than normal?
I don't follow print sales very much though the Moss sounds like it did just fine as I thought these have been trading between $100-$120k and this was the top end of that range, no? Are the others higher or lower than normal?
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Christie's Art Auctions , by griffermans on Jun 10, 2008 18:29:36 GMT 1, I thought it was all about right!
I thought it was all about right!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Pattycakes on Jun 10, 2008 19:00:51 GMT 1, Yeah the Moss was fine, but I think the other prices were way too low
Yeah the Moss was fine, but I think the other prices were way too low
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Christie's Art Auctions , by onemandown72 on Jun 10, 2008 19:35:38 GMT 1, Signed happy choppers ยฃ5250!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is an unbeliveable bargain. One of, if not the best Banksy print. This price will look like chicken change come the next few years.
wait til you see this rolled out at auction in 2030 going for near ยฃ100K (and that's not huge inflation now til then)
Signed happy choppers ยฃ5250!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is an unbeliveable bargain. One of, if not the best Banksy print. This price will look like chicken change come the next few years.
wait til you see this rolled out at auction in 2030 going for near ยฃ100K (and that's not huge inflation now til then)
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Christie's Art Auctions , by dogant on Jun 12, 2008 10:43:26 GMT 1,
Interesting Mike ...... got me thinking about Nick Walkers TMA series....not that original then really.....again, its been done before (I guess Banksy took the idea from somebody too (Blek!  )
Interesting Mike ...... got me thinking about Nick Walkers TMA series....not that original then really.....again, its been done before (I guess Banksy took the idea from somebody too (Blek! ) |
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Are they for sale as a pair/one lot? Odd... |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by insite on Jun 12, 2008 12:57:48 GMT 1, Are they for sale as a pair/one lot? Odd...
I think they're both on the same piece of board, one on either side, if so be it'd be a bit odd to sell them to different buyers
Are they for sale as a pair/one lot? Odd... I think they're both on the same piece of board, one on either side, if so be it'd be a bit odd to sell them to different buyers |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by seidbereit on Jun 12, 2008 13:09:15 GMT 1, Are they for sale as a pair/one lot? Odd... I think they're both on the same piece of board, one on either side, if so be it'd be a bit odd to sell them to different buyers
Damn... I realised this the minute I posted earlier (hadn't read the full description re: the recto/verso stuff etc.) then the phone rang just as i was going to edit and the cat ate all my other excuses and now I look thick. Drat and blast ;D
Are they for sale as a pair/one lot? Odd... I think they're both on the same piece of board, one on either side, if so be it'd be a bit odd to sell them to different buyers Damn... I realised this the minute I posted earlier (hadn't read the full description re: the recto/verso stuff etc.) then the phone rang just as i was going to edit and the cat ate all my other excuses and now I look thick. Drat and blast ;D |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by cashman on Jun 12, 2008 15:26:04 GMT 1, Signed happy choppers ยฃ5250!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is an unbeliveable bargain. One of, if not the best Banksy print. This price will look like chicken change come the next few years. wait til you see this rolled out at auction in 2030 going for near ยฃ100K (and that's not huge inflation now til then)
So with your inflation the cheapest Banksy OG will cost ยฃ10m min....
100k for a chopper....dreaming bro
Signed happy choppers ยฃ5250!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is an unbeliveable bargain. One of, if not the best Banksy print. This price will look like chicken change come the next few years. wait til you see this rolled out at auction in 2030 going for near ยฃ100K (and that's not huge inflation now til then) So with your inflation the cheapest Banksy OG will cost ยฃ10m min.... 100k for a chopper....dreaming bro |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by angryboy on Jun 12, 2008 15:55:16 GMT 1, Isn't ยฃ5,250 to ยฃ100,000 in 22 years and average annual rate of growth of 14%? That's less than a Warhol Mao print has gone up by (19% per year) on average over the last 30 years.
So saying to get to it's ยฃ5250 it's done a fairly huge bit of growth already.
Isn't ยฃ5,250 to ยฃ100,000 in 22 years and average annual rate of growth of 14%? That's less than a Warhol Mao print has gone up by (19% per year) on average over the last 30 years.
So saying to get to it's ยฃ5250 it's done a fairly huge bit of growth already.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Bram on Jun 12, 2008 16:03:10 GMT 1, the bubble is beginning to burst
I've heard there is going to be a recovery
the bubble is beginning to burst I've heard there is going to be a recovery |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by onemandown72 on Jun 12, 2008 16:26:18 GMT 1, Isn't ยฃ5,250 to ยฃ100,000 in 22 years and average annual rate of growth of 14%? That's less than a Warhol Mao print has gone up by (19% per year) on average over the last 30 years. So saying to get to it's ยฃ5250 it's done a fairly huge bit of growth already.
thank you, these were my thoughts - and only with certain Banksy prints as not all will have staying power, this is one that I believe will and can.
Isn't ยฃ5,250 to ยฃ100,000 in 22 years and average annual rate of growth of 14%? That's less than a Warhol Mao print has gone up by (19% per year) on average over the last 30 years. So saying to get to it's ยฃ5250 it's done a fairly huge bit of growth already. thank you, these were my thoughts - and only with certain Banksy prints as not all will have staying power, this is one that I believe will and can. |
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Hope no one buys it, scumbag |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on Jun 12, 2008 17:15:52 GMT 1, There is some BEAUTIFIUL work in that auction. Sotheby's also has a great lot of 3 iconic Bancksy's from the LA show (love is in the air, laugh now, and bomb hugger) esimated at $200-$300k. I'm sure dealers and collectors alike will be all over that lot.
There is some BEAUTIFIUL work in that auction. Sotheby's also has a great lot of 3 iconic Bancksy's from the LA show (love is in the air, laugh now, and bomb hugger) esimated at $200-$300k. I'm sure dealers and collectors alike will be all over that lot.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on Jun 12, 2008 17:47:57 GMT 1, Isn't ยฃ5,250 to ยฃ100,000 in 22 years and average annual rate of growth of 14%? That's less than a Warhol Mao print has gone up by (19% per year) on average over the last 30 years. So saying to get to it's ยฃ5250 it's done a fairly huge bit of growth already. thank you, these were my thoughts - and only with certain Banksy prints as not all will have staying power, this is one that I believe will and can.
Folks, let's get real here for a moment. You are citing one of the most famous/iconic images from the most important artist of the second half of the 20th century as your baseline comparison for the performance of a print from Banksy over the next 20 years? I know this is a Banksy board and we all love his work BUT I doubt we will ever see a bull market in art like the one we've witnessed over the past 10 years ever again in our lives.
Banksy has a WAYS to go, but I'll just give you for the sake of argument that Banksy becoms the most important artsist of the first half of the 21st century (BIG if).
Take a look at what Warhol Mao's traded for in 1998 from '78 and your annualized return will drop SIGNIFICANTLY. The art market has gone parabolic over the past 5 years and this simply will not continue long term. This asset class will have its crash too in the future. Warhol Mao canvases could be purchased for $150-$200k just 3 years ago and now they trade between $1 and $2.5 million. That kind of growth is not sustainable long term.
Isn't ยฃ5,250 to ยฃ100,000 in 22 years and average annual rate of growth of 14%? That's less than a Warhol Mao print has gone up by (19% per year) on average over the last 30 years. So saying to get to it's ยฃ5250 it's done a fairly huge bit of growth already. thank you, these were my thoughts - and only with certain Banksy prints as not all will have staying power, this is one that I believe will and can. Folks, let's get real here for a moment. You are citing one of the most famous/iconic images from the most important artist of the second half of the 20th century as your baseline comparison for the performance of a print from Banksy over the next 20 years? I know this is a Banksy board and we all love his work BUT I doubt we will ever see a bull market in art like the one we've witnessed over the past 10 years ever again in our lives. Banksy has a WAYS to go, but I'll just give you for the sake of argument that Banksy becoms the most important artsist of the first half of the 21st century (BIG if). Take a look at what Warhol Mao's traded for in 1998 from '78 and your annualized return will drop SIGNIFICANTLY. The art market has gone parabolic over the past 5 years and this simply will not continue long term. This asset class will have its crash too in the future. Warhol Mao canvases could be purchased for $150-$200k just 3 years ago and now they trade between $1 and $2.5 million. That kind of growth is not sustainable long term. |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by angryboy on Jun 12, 2008 18:33:43 GMT 1, I don't actually think it will happen, if I did I'd be buying lots of Banksy pieces with all my savings. It was more a reference to the powers of compounding over long periods of time and how crazy sounding amounts can be achievable.
I don't actually think it will happen, if I did I'd be buying lots of Banksy pieces with all my savings. It was more a reference to the powers of compounding over long periods of time and how crazy sounding amounts can be achievable.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by dealersam on Jun 12, 2008 18:46:27 GMT 1, +1 that man.
+1 that man. |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by ricosg11 on Jun 12, 2008 19:03:42 GMT 1, if there was any more hot air in the print market it would explode. It is heavily manipulated, and out of line with established artists. If you are putting your savings into "urban" prints you are making a big big mistake.
if there was any more hot air in the print market it would explode. It is heavily manipulated, and out of line with established artists. If you are putting your savings into "urban" prints you are making a big big mistake.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by onemandown72 on Jul 1, 2008 19:14:58 GMT 1, Felt strong for Faile as well
Felt strong for Faile as well
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