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Christie's Art Auctions , by jamesreeve5 on Jul 1, 2008 19:24:57 GMT 1, barry mcgee went for a little over 5k... a good deal in my opinion
barry mcgee went for a little over 5k... a good deal in my opinion
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Christie's Art Auctions , by dc8010 on Jul 1, 2008 20:00:54 GMT 1, The Micallef Dumb Girl was very cheap as well at ยฃ10k
The Micallef Dumb Girl was very cheap as well at ยฃ10k
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Christie's Art Auctions , by graeme501 on Jul 1, 2008 20:07:30 GMT 1, what happened 2 the neates ?
what happened 2 the neates ?
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Christie's Art Auctions , by dc8010 on Jul 1, 2008 20:16:01 GMT 1, dont think they sold
dont think they sold
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Prescription Art on Jul 1, 2008 20:29:03 GMT 1, that Micallef looks niiiiice
that Micallef looks niiiiice
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dc8010
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Christie's Art Auctions , by dc8010 on Jul 1, 2008 20:32:56 GMT 1, Very nice at ยฃ10k
Very nice at ยฃ10k
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Christie's Art Auctions , by foreman on Jul 1, 2008 21:18:43 GMT 1, 
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EHC
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Christie's Art Auctions , by EHC on Jul 1, 2008 21:44:24 GMT 1, What I'm wondering is why the Neates do not show up in the results at all. The Haring along with other works were also unsold but still show up in the results with their estimates.
Anyone remember the estimate for the Faile box? And do the prices realized include buyer premium?
What I'm wondering is why the Neates do not show up in the results at all. The Haring along with other works were also unsold but still show up in the results with their estimates.
Anyone remember the estimate for the Faile box? And do the prices realized include buyer premium?
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Christie's Art Auctions , by slowmo on Jul 1, 2008 21:53:56 GMT 1, Was that the MJ remix secret for you that was put on the site Jan 07 and sat there for about a month at $10,000? Not bad for a years appreciation 
Was that the MJ remix secret for you that was put on the site Jan 07 and sat there for about a month at $10,000? Not bad for a years appreciation |
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lee3
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on Jul 1, 2008 21:55:22 GMT 1, What I'm wondering is why the Neates do not show up in the results at all. The Haring along with other works were also unsold but still show up in the results with their estimates. Anyone remember the estimate for the Faile box? And do the prices realized include buyer premium?
It's possible that the Neate's were withdrawn in that case. I wasn't perusing the sale list; I was just looking up the artists themselves. If the lot is bought in, just the estimate will show in the results page. One could always call Christie's to be certain or wait for the artnet.com results to be posted tomorrow.
The prices do include buyers premium but not VAT for you European buyers. Faile box was estimated ยฃ10-15k.
What I'm wondering is why the Neates do not show up in the results at all. The Haring along with other works were also unsold but still show up in the results with their estimates. Anyone remember the estimate for the Faile box? And do the prices realized include buyer premium? It's possible that the Neate's were withdrawn in that case. I wasn't perusing the sale list; I was just looking up the artists themselves. If the lot is bought in, just the estimate will show in the results page. One could always call Christie's to be certain or wait for the artnet.com results to be posted tomorrow. The prices do include buyers premium but not VAT for you European buyers. Faile box was estimated ยฃ10-15k. |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by EHC on Jul 1, 2008 22:11:27 GMT 1, What I'm wondering is why the Neates do not show up in the results at all. The Haring along with other works were also unsold but still show up in the results with their estimates. Anyone remember the estimate for the Faile box? And do the prices realized include buyer premium? It's possible that the Neate's were withdrawn in that case. I wasn't perusing the sale list; I was just looking up the artists themselves. If the lot is bought in, just the estimate will show in the results page. One could always call Christie's to be certain or wait for the artnet.com results to be posted tomorrow. The prices do include buyers premium but not VAT for you European buyers. Faile box was estimated ยฃ10-15k.
thanks for the info lee3.
I thought the Faile box would perform better but I guess thats still solid.
to be honest, the Neates were listed weird from the start. On the Christies site they didn't have the pieces listed under Adam Neate as the artists but rahter Untitled and his name did not show up on the list of artists on the left of their screen.
What I'm wondering is why the Neates do not show up in the results at all. The Haring along with other works were also unsold but still show up in the results with their estimates. Anyone remember the estimate for the Faile box? And do the prices realized include buyer premium? It's possible that the Neate's were withdrawn in that case. I wasn't perusing the sale list; I was just looking up the artists themselves. If the lot is bought in, just the estimate will show in the results page. One could always call Christie's to be certain or wait for the artnet.com results to be posted tomorrow. The prices do include buyers premium but not VAT for you European buyers. Faile box was estimated ยฃ10-15k. thanks for the info lee3. I thought the Faile box would perform better but I guess thats still solid. to be honest, the Neates were listed weird from the start. On the Christies site they didn't have the pieces listed under Adam Neate as the artists but rahter Untitled and his name did not show up on the list of artists on the left of their screen. |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by guest2 on Jul 1, 2008 22:16:49 GMT 1, What I'm wondering is why the Neates do not show up in the results at all. The Haring along with other works were also unsold but still show up in the results with their estimates. Anyone remember the estimate for the Faile box? And do the prices realized include buyer premium?
not checked the results but an educated guess would say the neate original never met it's reserve and thats why it never sold and thats why it doesn't show in the results. Auction houses skip the unsold lots.
What I'm wondering is why the Neates do not show up in the results at all. The Haring along with other works were also unsold but still show up in the results with their estimates. Anyone remember the estimate for the Faile box? And do the prices realized include buyer premium? not checked the results but an educated guess would say the neate original never met it's reserve and thats why it never sold and thats why it doesn't show in the results. Auction houses skip the unsold lots. |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by maadbeats on Jul 2, 2008 13:22:51 GMT 1, Quality results for Faile.
Quality results for Faile.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Bram on Jul 2, 2008 16:11:23 GMT 1, Thanks for the detective work
Thanks for the detective work
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lee3
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on Jul 2, 2008 16:49:09 GMT 1, 3 eiditioned Banksy canvases just traded at Sotheby's for $240k. Usually I attach a premium when there are multiples in one lot but disregarding the premium that is $80k each for the editioned canvases. Count the 3 that traded at Bonham's a short while ago and you've got a low of $60k to a high of $80k for these pieces at auction now. That's more than enough data for me to tell me where the market is for the edtioned works. It's also worth noting that 2 of the 3 canvases in this lot are iconic and I'm surprised they did not bring more to be honest especially since Laugh Now was 1 of 1.
www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?sale_number=L08023&live_lot_id=307
3 eiditioned Banksy canvases just traded at Sotheby's for $240k. Usually I attach a premium when there are multiples in one lot but disregarding the premium that is $80k each for the editioned canvases. Count the 3 that traded at Bonham's a short while ago and you've got a low of $60k to a high of $80k for these pieces at auction now. That's more than enough data for me to tell me where the market is for the edtioned works. It's also worth noting that 2 of the 3 canvases in this lot are iconic and I'm surprised they did not bring more to be honest especially since Laugh Now was 1 of 1. www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?sale_number=L08023&live_lot_id=307 |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Richard on Jul 2, 2008 17:00:36 GMT 1,
Can you please explain what "bought in" means. Thanks!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by mose on Jul 2, 2008 17:00:51 GMT 1, Not that anything should, but the small size of these, the relative 'simpleness', the editioned nature, etc. makes the price really boggle my mind....
I wouldn't think that the Laugh Now being 1/1 means much though, as there are plenty examples of that graphic in better size and form.
Not that anything should, but the small size of these, the relative 'simpleness', the editioned nature, etc. makes the price really boggle my mind....
I wouldn't think that the Laugh Now being 1/1 means much though, as there are plenty examples of that graphic in better size and form.
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lee3
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Christie's Art Auctions , by lee3 on Jul 2, 2008 17:11:25 GMT 1, Not that anything should, but the small size of these, the relative 'simpleness', the editioned nature, etc. makes the price really boggle my mind.... I wouldn't think that the Laugh Now being 1/1 means much though, as there are plenty examples of that graphic in better size and form.
My point being, these were commanding SIGNIFICANTLY more just last fall. Personally, I consider 43 cm sq (17inches) a decent size.
>>>Can you please explain what "bought in" means. Thanks! <<<
it means it didn't sell. No matter what if a bid hits the level of a the low estimate by definition it is sold. Some sellers will have a lower "reserve price" than the low end of the estimate and a piece can sell despite the bids not reach the low estimate. If a lot is bought in, it means it didn't sell which means it didn't hit the low reserve or the low estimate.
Not that anything should, but the small size of these, the relative 'simpleness', the editioned nature, etc. makes the price really boggle my mind.... I wouldn't think that the Laugh Now being 1/1 means much though, as there are plenty examples of that graphic in better size and form. My point being, these were commanding SIGNIFICANTLY more just last fall. Personally, I consider 43 cm sq (17inches) a decent size. >>>Can you please explain what "bought in" means. Thanks! <<< it means it didn't sell. No matter what if a bid hits the level of a the low estimate by definition it is sold. Some sellers will have a lower "reserve price" than the low end of the estimate and a piece can sell despite the bids not reach the low estimate. If a lot is bought in, it means it didn't sell which means it didn't hit the low reserve or the low estimate. |
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Ruggs on Sept 10, 2008 21:27:10 GMT 1, Some bizarre estimates there, especially on the last page! Interesting to see how it goes with some of those lots.
Some bizarre estimates there, especially on the last page! Interesting to see how it goes with some of those lots.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by griffermans on Sept 10, 2008 21:34:34 GMT 1, I can only think that the Christies 'expert' said to the greedy vendor 'what do you think, cos I haven't got a f*c*ing clue?'
I can only think that the Christies 'expert' said to the greedy vendor 'what do you think, cos I haven't got a f*c*ing clue?'
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Michael Jacob on Sept 10, 2008 21:38:57 GMT 1, pretty diverse offering. It will be fun to follow.
pretty diverse offering. It will be fun to follow.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Coach on Sept 10, 2008 22:04:31 GMT 1, The Jenny Saville piece is stunning. I have loved her work for some time. Lot 113 (i think).
The Jenny Saville piece is stunning. I have loved her work for some time. Lot 113 (i think).
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Winter on Sept 10, 2008 22:09:49 GMT 1, The Neate Self Portrait isn't a screenprint. Good to know you can rely on their expertise.
The Neate Self Portrait isn't a screenprint. Good to know you can rely on their expertise.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Ruggs on Sept 10, 2008 22:23:31 GMT 1, Same as the 'Officer Down' by Dolk. It's still available at HMP for ยฃ70-00. Well below their estimate of ยฃ500-ยฃ700!
Same as the 'Officer Down' by Dolk. It's still available at HMP for ยฃ70-00. Well below their estimate of ยฃ500-ยฃ700!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Deleted on Sept 10, 2008 22:24:32 GMT 1,
Problem is though there will be someone who does just because there is a misconception about Auction House "Expert" advice. For instance, i know its probably a hanging offence but i have not got any prints at all by Banksy! now i know there will be a time when i want one so i will be looking to buy from someone on here, whereas Joe Public who does not know about places like this will obviously trust a leading auction house to offer advice and with this "Vermin" body authenticating anything and everything to push sales through he could possibly end up with a dud!. Also what happens when all these Vermin authenticated pieces start filtering back to the marketplace?.
Problem is though there will be someone who does just because there is a misconception about Auction House "Expert" advice. For instance, i know its probably a hanging offence but i have not got any prints at all by Banksy! now i know there will be a time when i want one so i will be looking to buy from someone on here, whereas Joe Public who does not know about places like this will obviously trust a leading auction house to offer advice and with this "Vermin" body authenticating anything and everything to push sales through he could possibly end up with a dud!. Also what happens when all these Vermin authenticated pieces start filtering back to the marketplace?. |
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