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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by UK Art Dealer on Apr 26, 2022 13:21:42 GMT 1, Anyone know what this means on the LA prints sold with exhibition frame ? Sothebys offer you the opportunity when you consign to have them frame your previously unframed prints to be then hung in their exhibition of the sale - hence the term exhibition frame, the frames in my experience are as simple as you can get with the prints just dropped in, no mount/ floating etc.
Anyone know what this means on the LA prints sold with exhibition frame ? Sothebys offer you the opportunity when you consign to have them frame your previously unframed prints to be then hung in their exhibition of the sale - hence the term exhibition frame, the frames in my experience are as simple as you can get with the prints just dropped in, no mount/ floating etc.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dice on Apr 26, 2022 13:44:29 GMT 1, Anyone know what this means on the LA prints sold with exhibition frame ? Sothebys offer you the opportunity when you consign to have them frame your previously unframed prints to be then hung in their exhibition of the sale - hence the term exhibition frame, the frames in my experience are as simple as you can get with the prints just dropped in, no mount/ floating etc.
Great, cheers
Anyone know what this means on the LA prints sold with exhibition frame ? Sothebys offer you the opportunity when you consign to have them frame your previously unframed prints to be then hung in their exhibition of the sale - hence the term exhibition frame, the frames in my experience are as simple as you can get with the prints just dropped in, no mount/ floating etc. Great, cheers
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by nameless on Apr 26, 2022 14:17:22 GMT 1, but is it normal that almost all the works are at 0 offers when there is less than an hour ?!
but is it normal that almost all the works are at 0 offers when there is less than an hour ?!
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Unica
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Apr 26, 2022 14:42:21 GMT 1, Most of the action doesn't happen until the last few minutes, now bids on Soup cans, barcode.
Most of the action doesn't happen until the last few minutes, now bids on Soup cans, barcode.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by My Name is Frank on Apr 26, 2022 15:03:14 GMT 1, Getting fruity on the thrower
Getting fruity on the thrower
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by George Poppit on Apr 26, 2022 15:08:30 GMT 1, That GWB AP would have done well if it wasnโt for the damage. It goes to show cheap framing is a false economy. Going cheap on the framing has cost that seller hundreds of thousands.
That GWB AP would have done well if it wasnโt for the damage. It goes to show cheap framing is a false economy. Going cheap on the framing has cost that seller hundreds of thousands.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by chefd on Apr 26, 2022 15:09:40 GMT 1, Any idea on final sale price?
Any idea on final sale price?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jonny Wednesday on Apr 26, 2022 15:11:46 GMT 1, The GWB AP didnt sell
The GWB AP didnt sell
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Coach on Apr 26, 2022 15:13:21 GMT 1, That GWB AP would have done well if it wasnโt for the damage. It goes to show cheap framing is a false economy. Going cheap on the framing has cost that seller hundreds of thousands.
Really? I agree that mat burn (if that is what the damage was - I accept that Iโve not seen the print) reduces the value of a print. Iโm not sure that it reduces it by as much as you suggest.
That GWB AP would have done well if it wasnโt for the damage. It goes to show cheap framing is a false economy. Going cheap on the framing has cost that seller hundreds of thousands. Really? I agree that mat burn (if that is what the damage was - I accept that Iโve not seen the print) reduces the value of a print. Iโm not sure that it reduces it by as much as you suggest.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by My Name is Frank on Apr 26, 2022 15:16:44 GMT 1, Couple of folks really want that hand finished donuts
Couple of folks really want that hand finished donuts
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Young Art Collector on Apr 26, 2022 15:23:55 GMT 1, Very heavy bidding fight on the Napalmโฆ
Very heavy bidding fight on the Napalmโฆ
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by My Name is Frank on Apr 26, 2022 15:37:01 GMT 1, Fighting as predicted for the radar
Fighting as predicted for the radar
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bob60
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by bob60 on Apr 26, 2022 16:28:41 GMT 1, Is tax etc added to those prices?
Is tax etc added to those prices?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by nameless on Apr 26, 2022 16:28:42 GMT 1, Very happy with those prices. Good collection of prints and obviously well represented. Probably best to go with Sothebyโs or Christieโs then for Banksy prints?
The result of the thrower is really badโฆ
Very happy with those prices. Good collection of prints and obviously well represented. Probably best to go with Sothebyโs or Christieโs then for Banksy prints? The result of the thrower is really badโฆ
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Unica
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Apr 26, 2022 16:41:03 GMT 1, Very happy with those prices. Good collection of prints and obviously well represented. Probably best to go with Sothebyโs or Christieโs then for Banksy prints? The result of the thrower is really badโฆ
[b
Do you mean the Red Liita?
Very happy with those prices. Good collection of prints and obviously well represented. Probably best to go with Sothebyโs or Christieโs then for Banksy prints? The result of the thrower is really badโฆ [b Do you mean the Red Liita?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jonny Wednesday on Apr 26, 2022 16:41:19 GMT 1, Is tax etc added to those prices? yes, not sure of all the additions but on a few I looked at, Sotheby's added 26% to the hammer price.
Is tax etc added to those prices? yes, not sure of all the additions but on a few I looked at, Sotheby's added 26% to the hammer price.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Apr 26, 2022 16:43:36 GMT 1, They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful.
They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful.
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nameless
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by nameless on Apr 26, 2022 16:44:26 GMT 1, The result of the thrower is really badโฆ [b Do you mean the Red Liita?
Sure, but Tateward sell the same, month ago, at 370kยฃ. In my opinion sothebys is much better than tateward.
The result of the thrower is really badโฆ [b Do you mean the Red Liita? Sure, but Tateward sell the same, month ago, at 370kยฃ. In my opinion sothebys is much better than tateward.
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nameless
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by nameless on Apr 26, 2022 16:44:57 GMT 1, [b Do you mean the Red Liita? Sure, but Tateward sell the same, month ago, at 370kยฃ. In my opinion sothebys is much better than tateward.
No the GDP Thrower
[b Do you mean the Red Liita? Sure, but Tateward sell the same, month ago, at 370kยฃ. In my opinion sothebys is much better than tateward. No the GDP Thrower
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by JFCC on Apr 26, 2022 19:46:49 GMT 1, They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful.
The best way to look at it is 34.5% on top of the hammer price. Premium plus VAT will be 31% depending on the big 4 auction house plus ARR.
The prices quoted add the premium without VAT even though VAT or import duty will be paid by 99% of buyers.
Very average results today
They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful. The best way to look at it is 34.5% on top of the hammer price. Premium plus VAT will be 31% depending on the big 4 auction house plus ARR. The prices quoted add the premium without VAT even though VAT or import duty will be paid by 99% of buyers. Very average results today
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by bob60 on Apr 26, 2022 20:52:00 GMT 1, They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful. The best way to look at it is 34.5% on top of the hammer price. Premium plus VAT will be 31% depending on the big 4 auction house plus ARR. The prices quoted add the premium without VAT even though VAT or import duty will be paid by 99% of buyers. Very average results today
I thought the Kate did very well, especially given that it had condition issues.
They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful. The best way to look at it is 34.5% on top of the hammer price. Premium plus VAT will be 31% depending on the big 4 auction house plus ARR. The prices quoted add the premium without VAT even though VAT or import duty will be paid by 99% of buyers. Very average results today I thought the Kate did very well, especially given that it had condition issues.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by sleazus1slord on Apr 26, 2022 21:44:21 GMT 1, What was hand finished on the donuts? Looks like the sprinkles and lights on the motorcycles.
What was hand finished on the donuts? Looks like the sprinkles and lights on the motorcycles.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Apr 26, 2022 22:03:53 GMT 1, Is there a link to the sold prices guys. Thank you ๐
Is there a link to the sold prices guys. Thank you ๐
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Apr 26, 2022 22:37:07 GMT 1,
Thank you mate๐ the GDP thrower did well I was thinking ยฃ220k ISH. Big price on that donuts also.
Thank you mate๐ the GDP thrower did well I was thinking ยฃ220k ISH. Big price on that donuts also.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Wanchope on Apr 26, 2022 23:08:41 GMT 1, Quick question, are these sold figures including BP? Cheers
Quick question, are these sold figures including BP? Cheers
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Charlie Bronson on Apr 26, 2022 23:32:23 GMT 1, 126k for a damaged CYW. Not bad. Wonder what the black residue is from; perhaps framing, or a car mechanic moved it out of the driverโs seat after changing the oil on an Aston.
โThe full sheet, in good condition, with traces of black residue in the margins, framed.โ
Imho, Trolleys is so underrated/undervalued, comparatively. One of my favorites.
126k for a damaged CYW. Not bad. Wonder what the black residue is from; perhaps framing, or a car mechanic moved it out of the driverโs seat after changing the oil on an Aston.
โThe full sheet, in good condition, with traces of black residue in the margins, framed.โ
Imho, Trolleys is so underrated/undervalued, comparatively. One of my favorites.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by jp on Apr 26, 2022 23:35:01 GMT 1, Looks like the sprinkles and lights on the motorcycles. I think standard version has coloured lights - but the sprinkles !! Wow a lot of dosh for a few sprinkles. I thought the same. It's just the sprinkles that have been hand colored. But it is a unique print outside the edition, and it's signed. Someone reaally wanted it.
There are a few other versions of this print. The one that has donuts instead of motorcyle wheels is nice.
Looks like the sprinkles and lights on the motorcycles. I think standard version has coloured lights - but the sprinkles !! Wow a lot of dosh for a few sprinkles. I thought the same. It's just the sprinkles that have been hand colored. But it is a unique print outside the edition, and it's signed. Someone reaally wanted it. There are a few other versions of this print. The one that has donuts instead of motorcyle wheels is nice.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by bob60 on Apr 27, 2022 4:36:12 GMT 1, Quick question, are these sold figures including BP? Cheers Yes - gets added on once sale is complete
Do the sold figures include everything including VAT etc?
Quick question, are these sold figures including BP? Cheers Yes - gets added on once sale is complete Do the sold figures include everything including VAT etc?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by JFCC on Apr 27, 2022 8:22:31 GMT 1, Do the sold figures include everything including VAT etc? No, they do not include VAT (20% in UK), nor Artist Resale Rights (4%). The website shows hammer price plus 26% (25% + 1% overhead premium). The all up price to include VAT and ARR is hammer price plus 35%
Do the sold figures include everything including VAT etc? No, they do not include VAT (20% in UK), nor Artist Resale Rights (4%). The website shows hammer price plus 26% (25% + 1% overhead premium). The all up price to include VAT and ARR is hammer price plus 35%
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by My Name is Frank on Apr 27, 2022 8:23:13 GMT 1, So getting my head round this
Choc Donuts ยฃ69300 ARR (VAT Exempt) ยฃ2772 VAT On Hammer & Premium price ยฃ13860
Total - ยฃ85932
Or as JFCC shows
ยฃ69300/126x100=ยฃ55000 x 1.35 = ยฃ74250
Thrower - ยฃ277200 ARR - ยฃ11088 VAT on Hammer & Premium ยฃ55440
Total - ยฃ343,728
Or as JFCC
ยฃ277200/126x100 = ยฃ220000x1.35 = ยฃ297,000
Is that correct?
So getting my head round this
Choc Donuts ยฃ69300 ARR (VAT Exempt) ยฃ2772 VAT On Hammer & Premium price ยฃ13860
Total - ยฃ85932
Or as JFCC shows
ยฃ69300/126x100=ยฃ55000 x 1.35 = ยฃ74250
Thrower - ยฃ277200 ARR - ยฃ11088 VAT on Hammer & Premium ยฃ55440
Total - ยฃ343,728
Or as JFCC
ยฃ277200/126x100 = ยฃ220000x1.35 = ยฃ297,000
Is that correct?
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