Eton Groover
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Eton Groover on Oct 6, 2018 9:03:56 GMT 1, I thought it was a bit Jeremy Beadle. And it didnโt appear to work properly. Banksy has to be careful he doesnโt โjump the sharkโ one day.
I thought it was a bit Jeremy Beadle. And it didnโt appear to work properly. Banksy has to be careful he doesnโt โjump the sharkโ one day.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Oct 6, 2018 9:17:28 GMT 1, Everyone loved a bit of Beadle, no?
Everyone loved a bit of Beadle, no?
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Express Post
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Express Post on Oct 6, 2018 9:21:54 GMT 1, Thanks for contributing another example of a quality painter. Oli probably needs a mahout to up his painting game too.
For all the Oli Epp superfans, a 22 year old painted this.ย An elephant painted this.
Thanks for contributing another example of a quality painter. Oli probably needs a mahout to up his painting game too. For all the Oli Epp superfans, a 22 year old painted this.ย An elephant painted this.
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naughtyshorty
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by naughtyshorty on Oct 6, 2018 9:54:12 GMT 1, Something was up from the get go for me. For a start, it was clearly a recent painting and not from 2006 or whatever the blurb stated - he simply didn't do canvases with this kind of classic image (especially Girl With Balloon's) with that much detail (as pointed out by Met) 12 years ago. Add to this the listing stated that it was dedicated on the rear, specifically to anyone who asked to none other than Jo Brookes. Sotheby's were clearly in on it all along - like a shredder built into a canvas is going to go unnoticed?! - and that for me completely ruins the entire stunt.
Does the message behind this whole โstuntโ honestly get ruined just because a couple people may have been in on it? I find that sad to believe that Banksy commentary from this piece about art, investors, speculators, disposability, control and power all get lost on you just because some people may have โbeen in on itโ. What a shame.
For what itโs worth, I doubt they were given how he likes to approach his stunts, but who knows.
Something was up from the get go for me. For a start, it was clearly a recent painting and not from 2006 or whatever the blurb stated - he simply didn't do canvases with this kind of classic image (especially Girl With Balloon's) with that much detail (as pointed out by Met) 12 years ago. Add to this the listing stated that it was dedicated on the rear, specifically to anyone who asked to none other than Jo Brookes. Sotheby's were clearly in on it all along - like a shredder built into a canvas is going to go unnoticed?! - and that for me completely ruins the entire stunt. Does the message behind this whole โstuntโ honestly get ruined just because a couple people may have been in on it? I find that sad to believe that Banksy commentary from this piece about art, investors, speculators, disposability, control and power all get lost on you just because some people may have โbeen in on itโ. What a shame. For what itโs worth, I doubt they were given how he likes to approach his stunts, but who knows.
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Pawel
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pawel on Oct 6, 2018 10:23:01 GMT 1, Something was up from the get go for me. For a start, it was clearly a recent painting and not from 2006 or whatever the blurb stated - he simply didn't do canvases with this kind of classic image (especially Girl With Balloon's) with that much detail (as pointed out by Met) 12 years ago. Add to this the listing stated that it was dedicated on the rear, specifically to anyone who asked to none other than Jo Brookes. Sotheby's were clearly in on it all along - like a shredder built into a canvas is going to go unnoticed?! - and that for me completely ruins the entire stunt. Does the message behind this whole โstuntโ honestly get ruined just because a couple people may have been in on it? I find that sad to believe that Banksy commentary from this piece about art, investors, speculators, disposability, control and power all get lost on you just because some people may have โbeen in on itโ. What a shame. For what itโs worth, I doubt they were given how he likes to approach his stunts, but who knows.
I'd much prefer him to comment on the investors and speculators by releasing some new editions
Something was up from the get go for me. For a start, it was clearly a recent painting and not from 2006 or whatever the blurb stated - he simply didn't do canvases with this kind of classic image (especially Girl With Balloon's) with that much detail (as pointed out by Met) 12 years ago. Add to this the listing stated that it was dedicated on the rear, specifically to anyone who asked to none other than Jo Brookes. Sotheby's were clearly in on it all along - like a shredder built into a canvas is going to go unnoticed?! - and that for me completely ruins the entire stunt. Does the message behind this whole โstuntโ honestly get ruined just because a couple people may have been in on it? I find that sad to believe that Banksy commentary from this piece about art, investors, speculators, disposability, control and power all get lost on you just because some people may have โbeen in on itโ. What a shame. For what itโs worth, I doubt they were given how he likes to approach his stunts, but who knows. I'd much prefer him to comment on the investors and speculators by releasing some new editions
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eyectopus
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by eyectopus on Oct 6, 2018 11:24:25 GMT 1, Of course Sotheby's were in on it, it was a canvas with a built in shredding machine in the frame ffs! I have entered canvases into primary auction houses with dated, signed professional condition appraisals from conservators approved by the auction house. They then donโt need to open the back of a framed canvas and just appraise it โin frameโ. So it is not beyond doubt that Sothebyโs was in on it.
I agree, and the fact that it was described as in artists frame would mean it could have been looked at as a whole piece. Also, would this be now looked at as something different from a painting, such as a sculpture?
Of course Sotheby's were in on it, it was a canvas with a built in shredding machine in the frame ffs! I have entered canvases into primary auction houses with dated, signed professional condition appraisals from conservators approved by the auction house. They then donโt need to open the back of a framed canvas and just appraise it โin frameโ. So it is not beyond doubt that Sothebyโs was in on it. I agree, and the fact that it was described as in artists frame would mean it could have been looked at as a whole piece. Also, would this be now looked at as something different from a painting, such as a sculpture?
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irl1
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Oct 6, 2018 11:31:17 GMT 1, Im guessing he was asking about the shredding as opposed to the price ? What a surprise, irl1 not seeing any further than simply the pounds and pence value of art. dogstar, put a muzzle on it and lets all enjoy the moment
Im guessing he was asking about the shredding as opposed to the price ? What a surprise, irl1 not seeing any further than simply the pounds and pence value of art. dogstar, put a muzzle on it and lets all enjoy the moment
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shy
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by shy on Oct 6, 2018 12:05:23 GMT 1, Im guessing he was asking about the shredding as opposed to the price ? What a surprise, irl1 not seeing any further than simply the pounds and pence value of art. What's wrong with you man?
You really have a frickin problem dude!
why such a sour person???
Im guessing he was asking about the shredding as opposed to the price ? What a surprise, irl1 not seeing any further than simply the pounds and pence value of art. What's wrong with you man? You really have a frickin problem dude! why such a sour person???
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by covertshadowops on Oct 6, 2018 12:06:40 GMT 1, Rat sold for ยฃ286K
Rat sold for ยฃ286K
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irl1
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Oct 6, 2018 12:11:13 GMT 1, Thanks for posting, i forgot this was on. Reading all the posts about the last few days, it has been some few days for Banksy and Sotheby's
Thanks for posting, i forgot this was on. Reading all the posts about the last few days, it has been some few days for Banksy and Sotheby's
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irl1
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Oct 6, 2018 14:02:42 GMT 1, BANKSY Untitled (Rat and Sword) 12 by 10 in. Stenciled spray paint on canvas 50,000 to 70,000 GBP .................... SOLD 230,000 + fees
BANKSY Mosquito 10 by 11 7/8 in. Acrylic and spray paint stencil on canvas 40,000 to 60,000 ............................SOLD 85,000 + fees
BANKSY Smiling Copper 78 3/4 by 30 1/8 in. Spray paint and acrylic on shaped cardboard 50,000 to 70,000 ............................ SOLD 210,000 + fees
BANKSY Untitled (Rat and Sword) 12 by 10 in. Stenciled spray paint on canvas 50,000 to 70,000 GBP .................... SOLD 230,000 + fees
BANKSY Mosquito 10 by 11 7/8 in. Acrylic and spray paint stencil on canvas 40,000 to 60,000 ............................SOLD 85,000 + fees
BANKSY Smiling Copper 78 3/4 by 30 1/8 in. Spray paint and acrylic on shaped cardboard 50,000 to 70,000 ............................ SOLD 210,000 + fees
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bsimkin
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by bsimkin on Oct 6, 2018 15:12:35 GMT 1, Banksy just posted a video to Instagram of him creating the frame and the live auction footage of it shredding. But then the post was deleted. Hmm...
Banksy just posted a video to Instagram of him creating the frame and the live auction footage of it shredding. But then the post was deleted. Hmm...
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Pysgod
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pysgod on Oct 6, 2018 15:28:06 GMT 1, Banksy has been coining it in the last couple of days !
Banksy has been coining it in the last couple of days !
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Catman 74
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Catman 74 on Oct 6, 2018 15:36:54 GMT 1, I think the prices are getting softer... HAHAHAHA...Yeah right!
I think the prices are getting softer... HAHAHAHA...Yeah right!
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eschiff
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by eschiff on Oct 6, 2018 16:06:26 GMT 1, Fragile posted a must see video on his IG
Was just about to post this. Fantastic video.
Fragile posted a must see video on his IG Was just about to post this. Fantastic video.
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dotdot
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by dotdot on Oct 6, 2018 16:08:12 GMT 1, Banksy just posted a video to Instagram of him creating the frame and the live auction footage of it shredding. But then the post was deleted. Hmm...
yeah i saw that... only had 60 odd views then .. it vanished.
hmm
Banksy just posted a video to Instagram of him creating the frame and the live auction footage of it shredding. But then the post was deleted. Hmm... yeah i saw that... only had 60 odd views then .. it vanished. hmm
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Pipes
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pipes on Oct 6, 2018 16:10:26 GMT 1, Grabbed a few screenshots - itโs still playing on my IG app.
Grabbed a few screenshots - itโs still playing on my IG app.
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Pipes
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pipes on Oct 6, 2018 16:20:15 GMT 1, Looks like no taking that back then !
Thatโs the age we live in. Once you publish - itโs out there !
Looks like no taking that back then !
Thatโs the age we live in. Once you publish - itโs out there !
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hnkpnk
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by hnkpnk on Oct 6, 2018 16:44:24 GMT 1,
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Hairbland
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Hairbland on Oct 6, 2018 16:46:05 GMT 1, Stories have someone dressed like and looking like Robin Gunningham creating a kerfluffle with security and being apprehended at the exit, part of the spectacle.
Stories have someone dressed like and looking like Robin Gunningham creating a kerfluffle with security and being apprehended at the exit, part of the spectacle.
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Pattycakes
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iamzero
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by iamzero on Oct 6, 2018 16:48:31 GMT 1, Iโm not buying that story. I thought the catalogue said the piece was from 2006? That would mean the battery in the frame wouldโve had to still have power in it after 12 years?
Iโm not buying that story. I thought the catalogue said the piece was from 2006? That would mean the battery in the frame wouldโve had to still have power in it after 12 years?
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Pattycakes
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pattycakes on Oct 6, 2018 17:02:28 GMT 1, Iโm not buying that story. I thought the catalogue said the piece was from 2006? That would mean the battery in the frame wouldโve had to still have power in it after 12 years? Look at Ollie Barker as he's hammering down the lot, he can't help smiling, if anyone out there doesn't realise that Sotheby's was in on this prank then they are morons.
Iโm not buying that story. I thought the catalogue said the piece was from 2006? That would mean the battery in the frame wouldโve had to still have power in it after 12 years? Look at Ollie Barker as he's hammering down the lot, he can't help smiling, if anyone out there doesn't realise that Sotheby's was in on this prank then they are morons.
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Pysgod
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pysgod on Oct 6, 2018 17:06:20 GMT 1, Iโm not buying that story. I thought the catalogue said the piece was from 2006? That would mean the battery in the frame wouldโve had to still have power in it after 12 years? wow you are another level of dumb
you put a new battery in just before it goes into the auction house
Iโm not buying that story. I thought the catalogue said the piece was from 2006? That would mean the battery in the frame wouldโve had to still have power in it after 12 years? wow you are another level of dumb you put a new battery in just before it goes into the auction house
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duggyfresh
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by duggyfresh on Oct 6, 2018 17:11:41 GMT 1, how do you guys think the shredder activated? by someone in the room by remote or phone?
how do you guys think the shredder activated? by someone in the room by remote or phone?
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Pysgod
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pysgod on Oct 6, 2018 17:13:19 GMT 1, Iโm not buying that story. I thought the catalogue said the piece was from 2006? That would mean the battery in the frame wouldโve had to still have power in it after 12 years? Look at Ollie Barker as he's hammering down the lot, he can't help smiling, if anyone out there doesn't realise that Sotheby's was in on this prank then they are morons. I think you will find you are being the moron
Iโm not buying that story. I thought the catalogue said the piece was from 2006? That would mean the battery in the frame wouldโve had to still have power in it after 12 years? Look at Ollie Barker as he's hammering down the lot, he can't help smiling, if anyone out there doesn't realise that Sotheby's was in on this prank then they are morons. I think you will find you are being the moron
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Aza
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Aza on Oct 6, 2018 17:19:11 GMT 1, Iโm not buying that story. I thought the catalogue said the piece was from 2006? That would mean the battery in the frame wouldโve had to still have power in it after 12 years? wow you are another level of dumb you put a new battery in just before it goes into the auction house Who put the new battery in? Who owned it just before it sold?
Iโm not buying that story. I thought the catalogue said the piece was from 2006? That would mean the battery in the frame wouldโve had to still have power in it after 12 years? wow you are another level of dumb you put a new battery in just before it goes into the auction house Who put the new battery in? Who owned it just before it sold?
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