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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by tesla on Oct 18, 2020 3:09:45 GMT 1, Hey,
Can anyone please recommend me some heavyweight hype art advisors to help me sell some top-tier hype art in my collection. (Heavyweight as in can sell works such as $500k Murakami, $200k Daniel Arsham, $150k Virgil Abloh, all unique works).
I'm learning a lot about collecting art and hope to sell many of the hype art I own and buy from more solid blue-chip gallery programs. Also, I have contacts from the three big auction houses, but with auction comes a lot of uncertainty, and with Murakami's auction market being soft at top level now (some works selling below estimate), I'd rather a good hype art advisor can place the works for me privately. Also galleries are of not much help at this moment they are all trying to generate COVID cash through primary gallery shows first.
I contacted some art advisors. Many are traditional who do not have a group of clients actively buying top tier hype art, if you know any art advisors who can help me sell works at this price range, please DM me that will be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Tesla
Hey,
Can anyone please recommend me some heavyweight hype art advisors to help me sell some top-tier hype art in my collection. (Heavyweight as in can sell works such as $500k Murakami, $200k Daniel Arsham, $150k Virgil Abloh, all unique works).
I'm learning a lot about collecting art and hope to sell many of the hype art I own and buy from more solid blue-chip gallery programs. Also, I have contacts from the three big auction houses, but with auction comes a lot of uncertainty, and with Murakami's auction market being soft at top level now (some works selling below estimate), I'd rather a good hype art advisor can place the works for me privately. Also galleries are of not much help at this moment they are all trying to generate COVID cash through primary gallery shows first.
I contacted some art advisors. Many are traditional who do not have a group of clients actively buying top tier hype art, if you know any art advisors who can help me sell works at this price range, please DM me that will be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Tesla
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by sfnyc on Oct 18, 2020 4:38:10 GMT 1, Advisors wouldn't be called advisors if they advised their clients to buy mass producing contemporary artists... They help their clients source rare works, not works recently sold in galleries. When you buy contemporary art don't expect to make your money back unless there is an established active market in the price range you re buying.. Best is to reach to the gallery you bought it from and ask if they could take them in consignment for private sale, they would be the best to place them with the right clients and most likely will appreciate you going back to them vs selling them in auction.
Advisors wouldn't be called advisors if they advised their clients to buy mass producing contemporary artists... They help their clients source rare works, not works recently sold in galleries. When you buy contemporary art don't expect to make your money back unless there is an established active market in the price range you re buying.. Best is to reach to the gallery you bought it from and ask if they could take them in consignment for private sale, they would be the best to place them with the right clients and most likely will appreciate you going back to them vs selling them in auction.
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by medichead on Oct 18, 2020 8:12:54 GMT 1, Did you seek advice when buying these pieces? If so, my instinct would be to approach the initial advisor in question...
If bought from a gallery directly then you could offer the works back and see what price they could achieve, the gallery may be able to find a private buyer for you. You may even make money.
As above, itโs unusual for an art advisor doing their job correctly to place hype art in the collections of clients, so feels like somewhat of an oxymoron.
Fully support your strategy.
Did you seek advice when buying these pieces? If so, my instinct would be to approach the initial advisor in question...
If bought from a gallery directly then you could offer the works back and see what price they could achieve, the gallery may be able to find a private buyer for you. You may even make money.
As above, itโs unusual for an art advisor doing their job correctly to place hype art in the collections of clients, so feels like somewhat of an oxymoron.
Fully support your strategy.
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Ken Hashimoto on Oct 18, 2020 15:43:10 GMT 1, If you're wealthy enough to have bought these items in the first place then I'd assume you're simply better off just letting them sit on ice for a while or sending them off to auction (with reserve).
If all your funds are tied up in these three artists it sounds like you may be over leveraged.
It also sounds like you've been following artorious007, lol. I personally think he's right about most things, but not everything, so take that for what it's worth.
If you're wealthy enough to have bought these items in the first place then I'd assume you're simply better off just letting them sit on ice for a while or sending them off to auction (with reserve).
If all your funds are tied up in these three artists it sounds like you may be over leveraged.
It also sounds like you've been following artorious007, lol. I personally think he's right about most things, but not everything, so take that for what it's worth.
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Pipes on Oct 18, 2020 16:06:07 GMT 1, Is hype art a widely used term? Seems fitting but have never heard it before.
Is hype art a widely used term? Seems fitting but have never heard it before.
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Arty Farty 15
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Arty Farty 15 on Oct 18, 2020 17:27:01 GMT 1, Hype art = produced by insufferable fashion house collaborators and loved by grown men that put toys on shelves in their living rooms.
Hype art = produced by insufferable fashion house collaborators and loved by grown men that put toys on shelves in their living rooms.
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Arty Farty 15 on Oct 18, 2020 17:27:40 GMT 1, ...So yea it is an insult
...So yea it is an insult
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tesla
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by tesla on Oct 23, 2020 1:54:48 GMT 1, Advisors wouldn't be called advisors if they advised their clients to buy mass producing contemporary artists... They help their clients source rare works, not works recently sold in galleries. When you buy contemporary art don't expect to make your money back unless there is an established active market in the price range you re buying.. Best is to reach to the gallery you bought it from and ask if they could take them in consignment for private sale, they would be the best to place them with the right clients and most likely will appreciate you going back to them vs selling them in auction.
Advisors wouldn't be called advisors if they advised their clients to buy mass producing contemporary artists... They help their clients source rare works, not works recently sold in galleries. When you buy contemporary art don't expect to make your money back unless there is an established active market in the price range you re buying.. Best is to reach to the gallery you bought it from and ask if they could take them in consignment for private sale, they would be the best to place them with the right clients and most likely will appreciate you going back to them vs selling them in auction. Thanks for advice, I tried galleries they are very slow and not much interest... One of the Arsham piece will be in December auction. |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by tesla on Oct 23, 2020 1:57:47 GMT 1, If you're wealthy enough to have bought these items in the first place then I'd assume you're simply better off just letting them sit on ice for a while or sending them off to auction (with reserve). If all your funds are tied up in these three artists it sounds like you may be over leveraged. It also sounds like you've been following artorious007, lol. I personally think he's right about most things, but not everything, so take that for what it's worth.
If you're wealthy enough to have bought these items in the first place then I'd assume you're simply better off just letting them sit on ice for a while or sending them off to auction (with reserve). If all your funds are tied up in these three artists it sounds like you may be over leveraged. It also sounds like you've been following artorious007, lol. I personally think he's right about most things, but not everything, so take that for what it's worth. TBH I don't mind sitting them in the storage, just not a fan looking at them anymore in my home. My taste has drastically changed after talking with collectors older than me, and also going to many museums and donating to some and talk with people there make me realize how stupid of those hype stuff I buy. It's good and quick when you buy $4k stuff then sell for $10k-20k 3-5 years later. But when you buy at $300k top-level hype canvas, few people want to buy it for $300-$600k because many are buying more blue-chip and solid investment grade stuff. Let me be a cautionary tale. |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by tesla on Oct 23, 2020 1:59:25 GMT 1, Hype art = produced by insufferable fashion house collaborators and loved by grown men that put toys on shelves in their living rooms.
Hype art = produced by insufferable fashion house collaborators and loved by grown men that put toys on shelves in their living rooms. exactly, looking back I'm ashamed at some of the things I collect, when emailing good galleries and you mention Murakami or any of these names they will immediately assume you as a collector with low taste... |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by tesla on Oct 23, 2020 2:14:01 GMT 1, And if you have that much money to throw around, pick up a shepard fairey canvas for 50-100k.
Artists I'm looking for have drastically changed, now my holy grails are Christina Quarles, Barbra Kruger early photographs, Avery Singer canvases.
And if you have that much money to throw around, pick up a shepard fairey canvas for 50-100k. Already have 3 Shepard canvases, TBH Shepard I do not think he can have a market run like Banksy, Banksy is more rare for unique works. I was offered some at $300k oil on canvases and passed, I felt dumb to numb for that fact. Artists I'm looking for have drastically changed, now my holy grails are Christina Quarles, Barbra Kruger early photographs, Avery Singer canvases. |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by acaipride on Oct 23, 2020 3:00:42 GMT 1, Hype art = produced by insufferable fashion house collaborators and loved by grown men that put toys on shelves in their living rooms.
Hype art = produced by insufferable fashion house collaborators and loved by grown men that put toys on shelves in their living rooms. I own none of these kaws or many vynils that come out, but EVERYTIME I see the grown men and toys comment I think of the old timer in my family that collected baseball cards and stamps through his late 40's, something that at the time was for kids...his wife loves all the trips, house on the hills in south america and the life they paid for when he started cashing in early 2000's...comments parallel to early 2000s about Banksy "art prints"... |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by acaipride on Oct 23, 2020 3:08:03 GMT 1, These art advisors advise on the present money level the works are at...if you were to turn back time and put that same mind set when the names they dropped now we're nobody's, they would be advising you to buy the relatively equal value now of an artist in that time.
"Man I should of bought tesla when they ipo'd and everyone was laughing at them", " don't buy nio at 3.25, take all that money and buy tesla"
These art advisors advise on the present money level the works are at...if you were to turn back time and put that same mind set when the names they dropped now we're nobody's, they would be advising you to buy the relatively equal value now of an artist in that time.
"Man I should of bought tesla when they ipo'd and everyone was laughing at them", " don't buy nio at 3.25, take all that money and buy tesla"
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Sunny Garcia on Oct 23, 2020 3:08:08 GMT 1, Can you please let us know who a 300K โHypeโ artist is? I canโt think of too many off the top of my head.
Can you please let us know who a 300K โHypeโ artist is? I canโt think of too many off the top of my head.
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by pr.yu on Oct 23, 2020 3:16:06 GMT 1, What is happening here?
What is happening here?
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by JJN on Oct 23, 2020 3:25:38 GMT 1, Agreed, as if Artorious007 wrote the post himself, to re-post on IG later
Agreed, as if Artorious007 wrote the post himself, to re-post on IG later |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by acaipride on Oct 23, 2020 3:42:42 GMT 1, I know the beanie babies story, as my mother collected them..and no it is not a mix up, these cards and stamps were mass produced like many of the prints and vynils are
I know the beanie babies story, as my mother collected them..and no it is not a mix up, these cards and stamps were mass produced like many of the prints and vynils are
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by sfnyc on Oct 23, 2020 4:17:55 GMT 1, If you're wealthy enough to have bought these items in the first place then I'd assume you're simply better off just letting them sit on ice for a while or sending them off to auction (with reserve). If all your funds are tied up in these three artists it sounds like you may be over leveraged. It also sounds like you've been following artorious007, lol. I personally think he's right about most things, but not everything, so take that for what it's worth. TBH I don't mind sitting them in the storage, just not a fan looking at them anymore in my home. My taste has drastically changed after talking with collectors older than me, and also going to many museums and donating to some and talk with people there make me realize how stupid of those hype stuff I buy. It's good and quick when you buy $4k stuff then sell for $10k-20k 3-5 years later. But when you buy at $300k top-level hype canvas, few people want to buy it for $300-$600k because many are buying more blue-chip and solid investment grade stuff. Let me be a cautionary tale.
Honestly you'll also get bored of your "good" pieces too with time and your taste will likely continually change and evolve. There is never one time where you will feel "that's it I m not getting more art and this collection looks perfect".
If you're wealthy enough to have bought these items in the first place then I'd assume you're simply better off just letting them sit on ice for a while or sending them off to auction (with reserve). If all your funds are tied up in these three artists it sounds like you may be over leveraged. It also sounds like you've been following artorious007, lol. I personally think he's right about most things, but not everything, so take that for what it's worth. TBH I don't mind sitting them in the storage, just not a fan looking at them anymore in my home. My taste has drastically changed after talking with collectors older than me, and also going to many museums and donating to some and talk with people there make me realize how stupid of those hype stuff I buy. It's good and quick when you buy $4k stuff then sell for $10k-20k 3-5 years later. But when you buy at $300k top-level hype canvas, few people want to buy it for $300-$600k because many are buying more blue-chip and solid investment grade stuff. Let me be a cautionary tale. Honestly you'll also get bored of your "good" pieces too with time and your taste will likely continually change and evolve. There is never one time where you will feel "that's it I m not getting more art and this collection looks perfect". |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Javier on Oct 23, 2020 6:04:23 GMT 1, I know the beanie babies story, as my mother collected them..and no it is not a mix up, these cards and stamps were mass produced like many of the prints and vynils are Organic collectibilty is when a mass produced item is new on the market and some people preserve it. It takes time to see value. Mass produced scarcity is limited runs of things like kaws vinyl figures.
Limited? ๐ค
I know the beanie babies story, as my mother collected them..and no it is not a mix up, these cards and stamps were mass produced like many of the prints and vynils are Organic collectibilty is when a mass produced item is new on the market and some people preserve it. It takes time to see value. Mass produced scarcity is limited runs of things like kaws vinyl figures. Limited? ๐ค |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by medichead on Oct 23, 2020 8:52:59 GMT 1, Can you please let us know who a 300K โHypeโ artist is? I canโt think of too many off the top of my head.
OP mentions Arsham, Abloh, Murakami. Check them out.
Can you please let us know who a 300K โHypeโ artist is? I canโt think of too many off the top of my head. OP mentions Arsham, Abloh, Murakami. Check them out. |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 9:30:51 GMT 1, 150k Virgil abloh ๐๐
If an art advisor touched this theyโd be blacklisted by me!
150k Virgil abloh ๐๐
If an art advisor touched this theyโd be blacklisted by me!
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 9:33:36 GMT 1, Also are you now being mentored by artorious?
Also are you now being mentored by artorious?
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by tesla on Oct 23, 2020 13:44:02 GMT 1, Also are you now being mentored by artorious?
I shamelessly paid for that Patreon and lurking in the group chat, but also several blue chip galleries in LA and Europe are offering me great advice.
Also are you now being mentored by artorious? I shamelessly paid for that Patreon and lurking in the group chat, but also several blue chip galleries in LA and Europe are offering me great advice. |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by orchid on Oct 23, 2020 13:53:54 GMT 1, Also are you now being mentored by artorious? I shamelessly paid for that Patreon and lurking in the group chat, but also several blue chip galleries in LA and Europe are offering me great advice.
Artorious, surely you don't need the financial incentives in making your 'advise' open to all.
Also are you now being mentored by artorious? I shamelessly paid for that Patreon and lurking in the group chat, but also several blue chip galleries in LA and Europe are offering me great advice. Artorious, surely you don't need the financial incentives in making your 'advise' open to all. |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Newar on Oct 23, 2020 14:01:15 GMT 1, 150k Virgil abloh ๐๐ If an art advisor touched this theyโd be blacklisted by me!
150k Virgil abloh ๐๐ If an art advisor touched this theyโd be blacklisted by me! Same here but he is making art with Murakami and represented by Gagosian and his boss is Bernard Arnault i'm sure this can open some doors ... |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 14:28:52 GMT 1, 150k Virgil abloh ๐๐ If an art advisor touched this theyโd be blacklisted by me! Same here but he is making art with Murakami and represented by Gagosian and his boss is Bernard Arnault i'm sure this can open some doors ...
100% life as we all know is about contacts not talent necessarily
150k Virgil abloh ๐๐ If an art advisor touched this theyโd be blacklisted by me! Same here but he is making art with Murakami and represented by Gagosian and his boss is Bernard Arnault i'm sure this can open some doors ... 100% life as we all know is about contacts not talent necessarily |
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by artylang on Oct 23, 2020 14:39:26 GMT 1, art advisors dont want to move your hype trash. real art advisers build long term collections and dont deal with day trading types. Past that, you gotta form your own tastes fam, youre just buying hot trash that no one will want down the line and id assume has no real connection to who you are as a person. Glad youve got cash to burn, but youre playing a game youll never win and embarassing yourself as you go. May sound harsh but its the truth. Go to a museum and write down what you like, then go on etsy and be a real hero to artists who are trying to make it with all that cash. Go support artists that need it, stop buying luxury goods for likes.
art advisors dont want to move your hype trash. real art advisers build long term collections and dont deal with day trading types. Past that, you gotta form your own tastes fam, youre just buying hot trash that no one will want down the line and id assume has no real connection to who you are as a person. Glad youve got cash to burn, but youre playing a game youll never win and embarassing yourself as you go. May sound harsh but its the truth. Go to a museum and write down what you like, then go on etsy and be a real hero to artists who are trying to make it with all that cash. Go support artists that need it, stop buying luxury goods for likes.
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by Lord Lucas Roham on Oct 23, 2020 14:55:56 GMT 1, Tesla has been viewing too many Artorious007 posts on IG and has decided to dump his cartoon 'hype' art collection comprising of Murakami, Abloh?, Arsham, Kaws (of course) and Hebru Brantley and is now chasing the most formulaic of 'blue chip' art like Kruger and Kawara.
Why not buy some Eddie Martinez and Jonas Wood? Spend $1m. Feel better about yourself. Only $5k for the advice. I can give you a head massage also.
Tesla has been viewing too many Artorious007 posts on IG and has decided to dump his cartoon 'hype' art collection comprising of Murakami, Abloh?, Arsham, Kaws (of course) and Hebru Brantley and is now chasing the most formulaic of 'blue chip' art like Kruger and Kawara.
Why not buy some Eddie Martinez and Jonas Wood? Spend $1m. Feel better about yourself. Only $5k for the advice. I can give you a head massage also.
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by d.r. perseus on Oct 23, 2020 15:36:14 GMT 1, Artorious- kaws takes your money to upgrade his collection to blue chip, institutional art.
Also artorious- give me your money so I can tell you what kaws buys.
Artorious- kaws takes your money to upgrade his collection to blue chip, institutional art.
Also artorious- give me your money so I can tell you what kaws buys.
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Who Are the Heavyweight Hype Art Advisors? , by sfnyc on Oct 23, 2020 16:58:29 GMT 1, Most of artorious advice on who to buy are boring, dead or irrelevant imo. The dude is right in trashing commercial artists but also has zero inisght or vision on avant guarde and new artists if they don't have an MFA or showed with his fav gallery. Its just a dude sharing basic professional advice and perspective and everyone is like omg so much insight ๐คฆโโ๏ธ. If you listened to his artist recommendation 10 years ago you would be lucky to break even and would not even outperform any market benchmarks....
Most of artorious advice on who to buy are boring, dead or irrelevant imo. The dude is right in trashing commercial artists but also has zero inisght or vision on avant guarde and new artists if they don't have an MFA or showed with his fav gallery. Its just a dude sharing basic professional advice and perspective and everyone is like omg so much insight ๐คฆโโ๏ธ. If you listened to his artist recommendation 10 years ago you would be lucky to break even and would not even outperform any market benchmarks....
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