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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by jp226 on Feb 26, 2021 4:05:31 GMT 1, Easiest pass ever.
Easiest pass ever.
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by acertle on Feb 26, 2021 7:34:14 GMT 1, bought 2h ago: #360142xxx Low 2s? or high 2s? 
bought 2h ago: #360142xxx Low 2s? or high 2s? very high |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by aumi on Feb 26, 2021 8:25:31 GMT 1, I am not sure if it is only me but I am not a fan of the medium at all. It looks cheap to me if I am completely honest. I like the image though.
I am not sure if it is only me but I am not a fan of the medium at all. It looks cheap to me if I am completely honest. I like the image though.
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by kfroms on Feb 26, 2021 8:49:27 GMT 1, I am not sure if it is only me but I am not a fan of the medium at all. It looks cheap to me if I am completely honest. I like the image though.
+1
I really dislike that cheap, glossy look. If i want a mirror on the wall I buy a mirror.
That said I would buy one of those if it would be on a different medium / surface
I am not sure if it is only me but I am not a fan of the medium at all. It looks cheap to me if I am completely honest. I like the image though. +1 I really dislike that cheap, glossy look. If i want a mirror on the wall I buy a mirror. That said I would buy one of those if it would be on a different medium / surface |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by My Name is Frank on Feb 26, 2021 9:00:37 GMT 1, Im watching the bitcoin slide, if you're thinking of buying one of these, park the money on bitcoin this morning and buy in a couple of weeks, it'll cheapen the edition cost as bitcoin gains it back. Or you lose your shirt!
Im watching the bitcoin slide, if you're thinking of buying one of these, park the money on bitcoin this morning and buy in a couple of weeks, it'll cheapen the edition cost as bitcoin gains it back. Or you lose your shirt!
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by cnrdvln on Feb 26, 2021 9:05:22 GMT 1, ended up with Justice, loyalty and control
probably place loyalty and control like a diptych
can't wait to see the real deal show in Versailles whenever it can actually happen
ended up with Justice, loyalty and control
probably place loyalty and control like a diptych
can't wait to see the real deal show in Versailles whenever it can actually happen
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by ajr on Feb 26, 2021 9:17:59 GMT 1, I don't get why the first thing people talk about is the potential value. In this case its an open edition so all who want one will get one. Numbers won't be massive in my opinion due to cost , 8 options in the series and no flipper value. Will take a long time to increase in value in my opinion, if at all. So buy if you like and stay away if looking for a quick buck.
I like them and hopefully will have enough cash to get one in a few days, just unsure which. Oh and of course need to convince the wife as it will take up alot of space on the wall....
I don't get why the first thing people talk about is the potential value. In this case its an open edition so all who want one will get one. Numbers won't be massive in my opinion due to cost , 8 options in the series and no flipper value. Will take a long time to increase in value in my opinion, if at all. So buy if you like and stay away if looking for a quick buck.
I like them and hopefully will have enough cash to get one in a few days, just unsure which. Oh and of course need to convince the wife as it will take up alot of space on the wall....
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by ajr on Feb 26, 2021 9:20:26 GMT 1, Personally like the ones that look less like trees/branches
Personally like the ones that look less like trees/branches
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by ak1 on Feb 26, 2021 9:32:17 GMT 1, I am not sure if it is only me but I am not a fan of the medium at all. It looks cheap to me if I am completely honest. I like the image though. +1 I really dislike that cheap, glossy look. If i want a mirror on the wall I buy a mirror. That said I would buy one of those if it would be on a different medium / surface
I like the images on this one but with 8 prints as an open edition, there's potentially going to be thousands of these. For me, €2.5k can be better spent. There'll also be bucket loads of these on ebay in the next few months so its a pass.
I am not sure if it is only me but I am not a fan of the medium at all. It looks cheap to me if I am completely honest. I like the image though. +1 I really dislike that cheap, glossy look. If i want a mirror on the wall I buy a mirror. That said I would buy one of those if it would be on a different medium / surface Have to agree. I bought a Fruitful and have to say im underwhelmed with the medium its printed on. Looks very flat with no depth at all. I like the images on this one but with 8 prints as an open edition, there's potentially going to be thousands of these. For me, €2.5k can be better spent. There'll also be bucket loads of these on ebay in the next few months so its a pass. |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Sixty Bells on Feb 26, 2021 9:35:49 GMT 1, It’s interesting that the older Hirst gets, the less his work focusses on death and the more it focusses on life
These Heni panels are great, they just need to be framed. When they aren’t framed they sort of sink into the wall
It’s interesting that the older Hirst gets, the less his work focusses on death and the more it focusses on life
These Heni panels are great, they just need to be framed. When they aren’t framed they sort of sink into the wall
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by charliec2701 on Feb 26, 2021 9:36:44 GMT 1, So if one were to buy one of these, would one also get an opportunity to buy a signed Richter? Asking for a friend
Definitely NOT !!
So if one were to buy one of these, would one also get an opportunity to buy a signed Richter? Asking for a friend Definitely NOT !! |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by charliec2701 on Feb 26, 2021 9:39:53 GMT 1, Pretty conflicted about this. Been waiting on these and passed up on other Hirst releases waiting. Think the image(s) are great but the size is pretty imposing. Don’t like the fact they are laminated affecting the texture of the heavy paintwork. The open edition is a bit of a negative too. Will have a serious think on it
This isn’t an open edition. It’s a timed release.
Pretty conflicted about this. Been waiting on these and passed up on other Hirst releases waiting. Think the image(s) are great but the size is pretty imposing. Don’t like the fact they are laminated affecting the texture of the heavy paintwork. The open edition is a bit of a negative too. Will have a serious think on it This isn’t an open edition. It’s a timed release. |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 9:48:14 GMT 1, So those that got one/are going for one, which one are you grabbing? I’m going to grab one; just not sure which.
Mercy or Politeness for me, I think
So those that got one/are going for one, which one are you grabbing? I’m going to grab one; just not sure which. Mercy or Politeness for me, I think |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Johnny Sarcasm on Feb 26, 2021 10:01:09 GMT 1, It’s interesting that the older Hirst gets, the less his work focusses on death and the more it focusses on life These Heni panels are great, they just need to be framed. When they aren’t framed they sort of sink into the wall
Might have something to do with his 20-something lingerie model girlfriend. Works for me!! 😂
It’s interesting that the older Hirst gets, the less his work focusses on death and the more it focusses on life These Heni panels are great, they just need to be framed. When they aren’t framed they sort of sink into the wall Might have something to do with his 20-something lingerie model girlfriend. Works for me!! 😂 |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Georgie Poppit on Feb 26, 2021 10:32:57 GMT 1, He has lots of these new paintings and I wouldn't be surprised if the next batch are already lined up.
He has lots of these new paintings and I wouldn't be surprised if the next batch are already lined up.
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 10:33:00 GMT 1, It’s interesting that the older Hirst gets, the less his work focusses on death and the more it focusses on life These Heni panels are great, they just need to be framed. When they aren’t framed they sort of sink into the wall Might have something to do with his 20-something lingerie model girlfriend. Works for me!! 😂
Honestly, who would not spend a night with her 😉😂
It’s interesting that the older Hirst gets, the less his work focusses on death and the more it focusses on life These Heni panels are great, they just need to be framed. When they aren’t framed they sort of sink into the wall Might have something to do with his 20-something lingerie model girlfriend. Works for me!! 😂 Honestly, who would not spend a night with her 😉😂 |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Dice on Feb 26, 2021 10:59:16 GMT 1, Hirst fans have been waiting for these cherry blossoms for a while and loads of people have asked him to do them on Instagram, perhaps that’s why he went with the timed edition. They are a good size and a decent price but the glossy dibond does look a bit flat and unappealing on the other Heni prints. But I do like the blossoms. What to do.
Hirst fans have been waiting for these cherry blossoms for a while and loads of people have asked him to do them on Instagram, perhaps that’s why he went with the timed edition. They are a good size and a decent price but the glossy dibond does look a bit flat and unappealing on the other Heni prints. But I do like the blossoms. What to do.
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Sixty Bells on Feb 26, 2021 10:59:58 GMT 1, Heni website has crashed. Doesn’t bode well for edition numbers!!
Heni website has crashed. Doesn’t bode well for edition numbers!!
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by spanksy on Feb 26, 2021 11:14:53 GMT 1, It’s a muddy strategy
If they are trying to appeal to uber-rich/ lock up and leavers / asset allocators with crypto / vault storage; the thing these investors want is scarcity and premium quality (this is common the the fine wine / whiskey space most people never physically deliver).
Having a timed Edition on plastic doesn’t allow these folks to buy the scarcity or quality. So you’ll likely end up with pure uneducated illiquid speculators (WSB crew) likely weak handed as the market is flooded with this. Like fruitful. The price isn’t really enough to
Put people off - but the image might ha
Just don’t get it, they aiming for GME vibes?
This new strategy would have made more sense on the richter release.
It’s a muddy strategy
If they are trying to appeal to uber-rich/ lock up and leavers / asset allocators with crypto / vault storage; the thing these investors want is scarcity and premium quality (this is common the the fine wine / whiskey space most people never physically deliver).
Having a timed Edition on plastic doesn’t allow these folks to buy the scarcity or quality. So you’ll likely end up with pure uneducated illiquid speculators (WSB crew) likely weak handed as the market is flooded with this. Like fruitful. The price isn’t really enough to
Put people off - but the image might ha
Just don’t get it, they aiming for GME vibes?
This new strategy would have made more sense on the richter release.
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Dahmer on Feb 26, 2021 11:17:41 GMT 1, Anyone explain the Vat situation, if I have it sent to Europe I don’t pay vat and if I have sent to the UK I do pay vat? I know Heni is based in Soho - seems to be better if I send it to the mother in laws who lives in europe
Anyone explain the Vat situation, if I have it sent to Europe I don’t pay vat and if I have sent to the UK I do pay vat? I know Heni is based in Soho - seems to be better if I send it to the mother in laws who lives in europe
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Lord Lucas Roham on Feb 26, 2021 11:24:07 GMT 1, It’s interesting that the older Hirst gets, the less his work focusses on death and the more it focusses on life These Heni panels are great, they just need to be framed. When they aren’t framed they sort of sink into the wall Might have something to do with his 20-something lingerie model girlfriend. Works for me!! 😂
There's no fool like an old fool.
It’s interesting that the older Hirst gets, the less his work focusses on death and the more it focusses on life These Heni panels are great, they just need to be framed. When they aren’t framed they sort of sink into the wall Might have something to do with his 20-something lingerie model girlfriend. Works for me!! 😂 There's no fool like an old fool. |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 11:54:23 GMT 1, The same as with anything sold anywhere in the world, you pay VAT at the applicable rate at time of purchase if it is being sent to the same country. Otherwise, VAT is removed at the time of purchase and you are then charged the applicable rate at the time of import.
Anyone explain the Vat situation, if I have it sent to Europe I don’t pay vat and if I have sent to the UK I do pay vat? I know Heni is based in Soho - seems to be better if I send it to the mother in laws who lives in europe
The same as with anything sold anywhere in the world, you pay VAT at the applicable rate at time of purchase if it is being sent to the same country. Otherwise, VAT is removed at the time of purchase and you are then charged the applicable rate at the time of import. Anyone explain the Vat situation, if I have it sent to Europe I don’t pay vat and if I have sent to the UK I do pay vat? I know Heni is based in Soho - seems to be better if I send it to the mother in laws who lives in europe |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Happy Shopper on Feb 26, 2021 12:34:51 GMT 1, Anyone explain the Vat situation, if I have it sent to Europe I don’t pay vat and if I have sent to the UK I do pay vat? I know Heni is based in Soho - seems to be better if I send it to the mother in laws who lives in europe
Yes, but you'll probably still have to pay the Import Duty/VAT of the country you have it shipped to, and more pricey shipping. Might be less than the 20% UK VAT though... worth researching!
Anyone explain the Vat situation, if I have it sent to Europe I don’t pay vat and if I have sent to the UK I do pay vat? I know Heni is based in Soho - seems to be better if I send it to the mother in laws who lives in europe Yes, but you'll probably still have to pay the Import Duty/VAT of the country you have it shipped to, and more pricey shipping. Might be less than the 20% UK VAT though... worth researching! |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by .dappy on Feb 26, 2021 12:42:17 GMT 1, ... and while you will pay duty on the first country you ship it to ... you will then have shipping costs on top again to its final destination ... it's size means that it's not something you can carry-on ...
... and while you will pay duty on the first country you ship it to ... you will then have shipping costs on top again to its final destination ... it's size means that it's not something you can carry-on ...
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Dahmer on Feb 26, 2021 12:46:03 GMT 1, Anyone explain why Heni is selling it to me in dollars and adding the VAT on at checkout, this is not the way we usually do things in the UK. Just seems a little odd
Anyone explain why Heni is selling it to me in dollars and adding the VAT on at checkout, this is not the way we usually do things in the UK. Just seems a little odd
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by spanksy on Feb 26, 2021 12:55:14 GMT 1, I’d suggest people shouldn’t be speculating on art if they can’t even accurately calculate the purchase price. More qs on VAT than discussion on the quality of the image
Another new low 🤦🏻♂️
I’d suggest people shouldn’t be speculating on art if they can’t even accurately calculate the purchase price. More qs on VAT than discussion on the quality of the image
Another new low 🤦🏻♂️
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 26, 2021 13:02:28 GMT 1, I can't get my head round how you can buy a print and not pay any Vat if its stored in their vault. Obviously all above board, but seems strange.
I can't get my head round how you can buy a print and not pay any Vat if its stored in their vault. Obviously all above board, but seems strange.
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 26, 2021 13:15:13 GMT 1, I can't get my head round how you can buy a print and not pay any Vat if its stored in their vault. Obviously all above board, but seems strange. Is that confirmed that you pay no VAT if it's in the vault? Unless the vault is in a top secret facility in Switzerland then surely you still have to pay VAT on any sales regardless of where it is stored. The tax is on sales and a stored print is a sale.
Yep, you only pay applicable taxes when you withdraw it from the vault. Must be some loophole, but it does seem odd.
I can't get my head round how you can buy a print and not pay any Vat if its stored in their vault. Obviously all above board, but seems strange. Is that confirmed that you pay no VAT if it's in the vault? Unless the vault is in a top secret facility in Switzerland then surely you still have to pay VAT on any sales regardless of where it is stored. The tax is on sales and a stored print is a sale. Yep, you only pay applicable taxes when you withdraw it from the vault. Must be some loophole, but it does seem odd. |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 13:16:32 GMT 1, No, they're not all in Switzerland. There are several free port storage facilities in the UK. You won't pay tax until it leaves.
I can't get my head round how you can buy a print and not pay any Vat if its stored in their vault. Obviously all above board, but seems strange. Is that confirmed that you pay no VAT if it's in the vault? Unless the vault is in a top secret facility in Switzerland then surely you still have to pay VAT on any sales regardless of where it is stored. The tax is on sales and a stored print is a sale.
No, they're not all in Switzerland. There are several free port storage facilities in the UK. You won't pay tax until it leaves. I can't get my head round how you can buy a print and not pay any Vat if its stored in their vault. Obviously all above board, but seems strange. Is that confirmed that you pay no VAT if it's in the vault? Unless the vault is in a top secret facility in Switzerland then surely you still have to pay VAT on any sales regardless of where it is stored. The tax is on sales and a stored print is a sale. |
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Damien Hirst H9 • The Virtues, by spanksy on Feb 26, 2021 13:43:50 GMT 1, No, they're not all in Switzerland. There are several free port storage facilities in the UK. You won't pay tax until it leaves. Is that confirmed that you pay no VAT if it's in the vault? Unless the vault is in a top secret facility in Switzerland then surely you still have to pay VAT on any sales regardless of where it is stored. The tax is on sales and a stored print is a sale.
Bingo. And the game is to sell it before it ever leaves the Freeport thus not incurring the tax. This is very common in art and other asset classes; not a new phenomenon. Some art stays in Freeport’s for most of its life and trades below HMRCs radar
No, they're not all in Switzerland. There are several free port storage facilities in the UK. You won't pay tax until it leaves. Is that confirmed that you pay no VAT if it's in the vault? Unless the vault is in a top secret facility in Switzerland then surely you still have to pay VAT on any sales regardless of where it is stored. The tax is on sales and a stored print is a sale. Bingo. And the game is to sell it before it ever leaves the Freeport thus not incurring the tax. This is very common in art and other asset classes; not a new phenomenon. Some art stays in Freeport’s for most of its life and trades below HMRCs radar |
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