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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Reader on Apr 12, 2021 11:50:32 GMT 1, I forgot him.. lol .... It's funny because I like real artists as Evol, etc.. I even wrote to him as I know him since the beginning, no prints, no books, nothing... We see that in fact all hyped artists ( toys ones, Kawas, Blok ) and " easy " prints with " easy " colors and pale subjects ( most are buying for their dining room, guests, or thir dentis saloon ) , no waves, all hyped artists are selling quick ( as I sadi all is done before )...
I would like art a bit different and not so " easy "... ( no please, no Jonas Wood ) ...
Evol, give us a print !
Think EVOL's last print was the Nuart Boxset in 2016. Rumour of a new show later this year in Berlin.
Add Fuel, Axel Void, Eron, Evol, Fintan McGee, Henrik Uldal, Hyuro, Jaune, Jeff Gillette, KennardPhillips, MTO, John XC, Robert Montgommery, SpY.
I forgot him.. lol .... It's funny because I like real artists as Evol, etc.. I even wrote to him as I know him since the beginning, no prints, no books, nothing... We see that in fact all hyped artists ( toys ones, Kawas, Blok ) and " easy " prints with " easy " colors and pale subjects ( most are buying for their dining room, guests, or thir dentis saloon ) , no waves, all hyped artists are selling quick ( as I sadi all is done before )...
I would like art a bit different and not so " easy "... ( no please, no Jonas Wood ) ...
Evol, give us a print !
Think EVOL's last print was the Nuart Boxset in 2016. Rumour of a new show later this year in Berlin. Add Fuel, Axel Void, Eron, Evol, Fintan McGee, Henrik Uldal, Hyuro, Jaune, Jeff Gillette, KennardPhillips, MTO, John XC, Robert Montgommery, SpY.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Hairbland on Apr 12, 2021 11:56:13 GMT 1, To be fair, that thread was an excellent read and a great resource to find hidden treasures, selflessly shared by others. I wish it could be brought back, as it was an incredible resource and got me back into art after a long hiatus. It was a nice counterpoint to “what’s happened in the last 5 minutes.”
To be fair, that thread was an excellent read and a great resource to find hidden treasures, selflessly shared by others. I wish it could be brought back, as it was an incredible resource and got me back into art after a long hiatus. It was a nice counterpoint to “what’s happened in the last 5 minutes.”
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Woodey1001 on Apr 12, 2021 12:01:13 GMT 1, No one ever sells out. Alot of the time it's a fake status to push the market for next release. A big proportion are held back to release when prices have then escalated.
No one ever sells out. Alot of the time it's a fake status to push the market for next release. A big proportion are held back to release when prices have then escalated.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Alchemy Art on Apr 12, 2021 12:09:43 GMT 1, No one ever sells out. Alot of the time it's a fake status to push the market for next release. A big proportion are held back to release when prices have then escalated.
100% correct.
No one ever sells out. Alot of the time it's a fake status to push the market for next release. A big proportion are held back to release when prices have then escalated. 100% correct.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by max1 on Apr 12, 2021 12:12:14 GMT 1, Feels like the GP seal of approval almost guarantees sellouts, especially at the moment with people sitting on cash Ive never bought from them, as their artists don’t fit with my taste in art. There are still plenty of people who buy for the love of art, not money, I think, and as such don’t give two hoots whether something they’ve bought sells out or not.
Agreed, I only discovered GP because an artist I like (Louis Masai) was releasing a print with them, Louis's work doesn't seem to even hold value on the secondary market but it's still one of my favourites.
Feels like the GP seal of approval almost guarantees sellouts, especially at the moment with people sitting on cash Ive never bought from them, as their artists don’t fit with my taste in art. There are still plenty of people who buy for the love of art, not money, I think, and as such don’t give two hoots whether something they’ve bought sells out or not. Agreed, I only discovered GP because an artist I like (Louis Masai) was releasing a print with them, Louis's work doesn't seem to even hold value on the secondary market but it's still one of my favourites.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Winks on Apr 12, 2021 12:47:35 GMT 1, Everything released by Graffiti Prints this year have been quick sell outs, even from newer artists.
Except James Bullough. Still on release page
Everything released by Graffiti Prints this year have been quick sell outs, even from newer artists. Except James Bullough. Still on release page
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Carl Cashman Art on Apr 12, 2021 13:20:54 GMT 1, I wonder if people are being more careful with their money, only buying from artists that sell out and are sure to at least hold their value, while a few years ago many were happier just buying what they liked and hoping it was a good decision in the long run. That's not buying Art, that's investing.
I wonder if people are being more careful with their money, only buying from artists that sell out and are sure to at least hold their value, while a few years ago many were happier just buying what they liked and hoping it was a good decision in the long run. That's not buying Art, that's investing.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Jimini Cricket on Apr 12, 2021 13:23:35 GMT 1, Everything released by Graffiti Prints this year have been quick sell outs, even from newer artists.
Haha. Go snkrtwttr!
http://instagram.com/p/CNkG-xgMOmF
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Lroy on Apr 12, 2021 13:25:54 GMT 1, I forgot him.. lol .... It's funny because I like real artists as Evol, etc.. I even wrote to him as I know him since the beginning, no prints, no books, nothing... We see that in fact all hyped artists ( toys ones, Kawas, Blok ) and " easy " prints with " easy " colors and pale subjects ( most are buying for their dining room, guests, or thir dentis saloon ) , no waves, all hyped artists are selling quick ( as I sadi all is done before )...
I would like art a bit different and not so " easy "... ( no please, no Jonas Wood ) ...
Evol, give us a print !
Think EVOL's last print was the Nuart Boxset in 2016. Rumour of a new show later this year in Berlin. Add Fuel, Axel Void, Eron, Evol, Fintan McGee, Henrik Uldal, Hyuro, Jaune, Jeff Gillette, KennardPhillips, MTO, John XC, Robert Montgommery, SpY. Thanks Reader.. Ah yes this box !!! Wanted it for the Evol and few others... It must cost now thousands of kkk ;-) Where do you think that I could get one Reader ?
I forgot him.. lol .... It's funny because I like real artists as Evol, etc.. I even wrote to him as I know him since the beginning, no prints, no books, nothing... We see that in fact all hyped artists ( toys ones, Kawas, Blok ) and " easy " prints with " easy " colors and pale subjects ( most are buying for their dining room, guests, or thir dentis saloon ) , no waves, all hyped artists are selling quick ( as I sadi all is done before )...
I would like art a bit different and not so " easy "... ( no please, no Jonas Wood ) ...
Evol, give us a print !
Think EVOL's last print was the Nuart Boxset in 2016. Rumour of a new show later this year in Berlin. Add Fuel, Axel Void, Eron, Evol, Fintan McGee, Henrik Uldal, Hyuro, Jaune, Jeff Gillette, KennardPhillips, MTO, John XC, Robert Montgommery, SpY. Thanks Reader.. Ah yes this box !!! Wanted it for the Evol and few others... It must cost now thousands of kkk ;-) Where do you think that I could get one Reader ?
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Alchemy Art on Apr 12, 2021 13:26:38 GMT 1, Ive never bought from them, as their artists don’t fit with my taste in art. There are still plenty of people who buy for the love of art, not money, I think, and as such don’t give two hoots whether something they’ve bought sells out or not. Agreed, I only discovered GP because an artist I like (Louis Masai) was releasing a print with them, Louis's work doesn't seem to even hold value on the secondary market but it's still one of my favourites.
One could argue that an artist whose work doesn't hold value on the secondary market is actually overpriced on release.
Ive never bought from them, as their artists don’t fit with my taste in art. There are still plenty of people who buy for the love of art, not money, I think, and as such don’t give two hoots whether something they’ve bought sells out or not. Agreed, I only discovered GP because an artist I like (Louis Masai) was releasing a print with them, Louis's work doesn't seem to even hold value on the secondary market but it's still one of my favourites. One could argue that an artist whose work doesn't hold value on the secondary market is actually overpriced on release.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Alchemy Art on Apr 12, 2021 13:33:04 GMT 1,
That's rich of GP to criticise flippers when they themselves hold a significant % of their own releases to flip at well above secondary prices during their 'vault sale'. This being said flipping a charity print is a complete d*ck move.
That's rich of GP to criticise flippers when they themselves hold a significant % of their own releases to flip at well above secondary prices during their 'vault sale'. This being said flipping a charity print is a complete d*ck move.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by sgolby on Apr 12, 2021 14:15:34 GMT 1, Feels like the GP seal of approval almost guarantees sellouts, especially at the moment with people sitting on cash Ive never bought from them, as their artists don’t fit with my taste in art. There are still plenty of people who buy for the love of art, not money, I think, and as such don’t give two hoots whether something they’ve bought sells out or not.
While you are right that there are plenty of folks who buy because of the love of the art. This forum unfortunately devolved into a place where the majority on here seem to only be interested in selling or speculating. There is significantly less discussion of artists past their value long term or as a flip. Frankly speaking, who gives a rats a$$ if a print sells out instantly. As many of us on here have seen over the years, the flavors of the month more often than not prove to be readily available at affordable prices a few months past the hype bubble.
I wish there was more discussion about art and releases and less about value. I mean the fact that a discussion about “roy’s people’s” appropriated art with a little figurine attached gets more discussion than a guy like Taku Obata, or Meguru Yamaguchi, both Urban artists and both making serious waves in the Japanese contemporary urban art scene is beyond me.
I feel like many of the sheeple on here would rather spend their money on banksy ephemera and make steve rich, than actually buy a piece of art that they love and perhaps one day will be valuable.
In the end, remember that many of us old timers bought Banksy because we loved what he stood for, or Kaws, because it made us smile, there was no profit motive back in the day.
Buy what you love, it will be much more satisfying in the long run. Trust those who have been collecting for love for the better part of 2 decades. None of whom will tell you that you should “invest,” unless they are trying to hype one of their interests.
Feels like the GP seal of approval almost guarantees sellouts, especially at the moment with people sitting on cash Ive never bought from them, as their artists don’t fit with my taste in art. There are still plenty of people who buy for the love of art, not money, I think, and as such don’t give two hoots whether something they’ve bought sells out or not. While you are right that there are plenty of folks who buy because of the love of the art. This forum unfortunately devolved into a place where the majority on here seem to only be interested in selling or speculating. There is significantly less discussion of artists past their value long term or as a flip. Frankly speaking, who gives a rats a$$ if a print sells out instantly. As many of us on here have seen over the years, the flavors of the month more often than not prove to be readily available at affordable prices a few months past the hype bubble. I wish there was more discussion about art and releases and less about value. I mean the fact that a discussion about “roy’s people’s” appropriated art with a little figurine attached gets more discussion than a guy like Taku Obata, or Meguru Yamaguchi, both Urban artists and both making serious waves in the Japanese contemporary urban art scene is beyond me. I feel like many of the sheeple on here would rather spend their money on banksy ephemera and make steve rich, than actually buy a piece of art that they love and perhaps one day will be valuable. In the end, remember that many of us old timers bought Banksy because we loved what he stood for, or Kaws, because it made us smile, there was no profit motive back in the day. Buy what you love, it will be much more satisfying in the long run. Trust those who have been collecting for love for the better part of 2 decades. None of whom will tell you that you should “invest,” unless they are trying to hype one of their interests.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by hellfo on Apr 12, 2021 14:20:08 GMT 1, What Artists still Sell Out Instantly whenever they release a new Print?
Leonardo da Vinci
What Artists still Sell Out Instantly whenever they release a new Print? Leonardo da Vinci
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Dive Jedi on Apr 12, 2021 14:32:16 GMT 1, What Artists still Sell Out Instantly whenever they release a new Print? Leonardo da Vinci Commissioned him to do my ceiling, but it's taking forever.....
What Artists still Sell Out Instantly whenever they release a new Print? Leonardo da Vinci Commissioned him to do my ceiling, but it's taking forever.....
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Ravnur 2020 on Apr 12, 2021 14:45:19 GMT 1, Commissioned him to do my ceiling, but it's taking forever..... Try Michelangelo!
Commissioned him to do my ceiling, but it's taking forever..... Try Michelangelo!
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by clueless on Apr 12, 2021 14:46:31 GMT 1, That's rich of GP to criticise flippers when they themselves hold a significant % of their own releases to flip at well above secondary prices during their 'vault sale'. This being said flipping a charity print is a complete d*ck move. How is flipping a charity print a dick move? The gallery which released raised all the funds they desired by selling out the charity print at their desired charity price.
If they wanted to raise more funds, they should charge more.
Selling a charity print on the secondary is simply selling a print on the secondary as someone would any other print that is released.
That's rich of GP to criticise flippers when they themselves hold a significant % of their own releases to flip at well above secondary prices during their 'vault sale'. This being said flipping a charity print is a complete d*ck move. How is flipping a charity print a dick move? The gallery which released raised all the funds they desired by selling out the charity print at their desired charity price. If they wanted to raise more funds, they should charge more. Selling a charity print on the secondary is simply selling a print on the secondary as someone would any other print that is released.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by Lazarus II on Apr 12, 2021 15:01:23 GMT 1, Commissioned him to do my ceiling, but it's taking forever..... same here, the helicopter project i commissioned has still to get off the ground...
Commissioned him to do my ceiling, but it's taking forever..... same here, the helicopter project i commissioned has still to get off the ground...
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by stevens on Apr 12, 2021 18:28:16 GMT 1, Daniel Silk or mods.....my account (maroozer) was disabled because I stated that this thread was dumb AF!?
Censorship is not a good thing! LAME!!
Daniel Silk or mods.....my account (maroozer) was disabled because I stated that this thread was dumb AF!?
Censorship is not a good thing! LAME!!
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by stevens on Apr 12, 2021 18:36:38 GMT 1, Why Daniel? Because it's your lame thread and you feel offended? Is that why?
Why Daniel? Because it's your lame thread and you feel offended? Is that why?
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by d.r. perseus on Apr 12, 2021 18:42:44 GMT 1, Daniel Silk or mods.....my account (maroozer) was disabled because I stated that this thread was dumb AF!? Censorship is not a good thing! LAME!!
Guess you will have to survive with your other account.
Censorship around here is the norm. Not the outlier
Daniel Silk or mods.....my account (maroozer) was disabled because I stated that this thread was dumb AF!? Censorship is not a good thing! LAME!! Guess you will have to survive with your other account. Censorship around here is the norm. Not the outlier
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by stevens on Apr 12, 2021 18:47:01 GMT 1, Yeah...my account is disabled for a day. But I did nothing wrong. I stated an opinion. It's a shame, really.
Yeah...my account is disabled for a day. But I did nothing wrong. I stated an opinion. It's a shame, really.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by ecudat on Apr 12, 2021 19:01:12 GMT 1, That's rich of GP to criticise flippers when they themselves hold a significant % of their own releases to flip at well above secondary prices during their 'vault sale'. This being said flipping a charity print is a complete d*ck move. For sure. But until GP sort out their releases and find a way to prevent flipping (or reduce its lustre), it'll happen on anything and everything.
I was actually wondering who determines their prices? E.g. why are Whatson's sold at £300 or £400 when they know even the average ones will be worth a grand a few hours later? IS it to create hype, or artist trying be affordable to all? If the latter, then they should probably try to find a (fair and decent) way to make it available to all, not just people with the fastest internet and/or bots.
That's rich of GP to criticise flippers when they themselves hold a significant % of their own releases to flip at well above secondary prices during their 'vault sale'. This being said flipping a charity print is a complete d*ck move. For sure. But until GP sort out their releases and find a way to prevent flipping (or reduce its lustre), it'll happen on anything and everything. I was actually wondering who determines their prices? E.g. why are Whatson's sold at £300 or £400 when they know even the average ones will be worth a grand a few hours later? IS it to create hype, or artist trying be affordable to all? If the latter, then they should probably try to find a (fair and decent) way to make it available to all, not just people with the fastest internet and/or bots.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by ecudat on Apr 12, 2021 19:12:46 GMT 1, Ive never bought from them, as their artists don’t fit with my taste in art. There are still plenty of people who buy for the love of art, not money, I think, and as such don’t give two hoots whether something they’ve bought sells out or not. While you are right that there are plenty of folks who buy because of the love of the art. This forum unfortunately devolved into a place where the majority on here seem to only be interested in selling or speculating. There is significantly less discussion of artists past their value long term or as a flip. Frankly speaking, who gives a rats a$$ if a print sells out instantly. As many of us on here have seen over the years, the flavors of the month more often than not prove to be readily available at affordable prices a few months past the hype bubble. I wish there was more discussion about art and releases and less about value. I mean the fact that a discussion about “roy’s people’s” appropriated art with a little figurine attached gets more discussion than a guy like Taku Obata, or Meguru Yamaguchi, both Urban artists and both making serious waves in the Japanese contemporary urban art scene is beyond me. I feel like many of the sheeple on here would rather spend their money on banksy ephemera and make steve rich, than actually buy a piece of art that they love and perhaps one day will be valuable. In the end, remember that many of us old timers bought Banksy because we loved what he stood for, or Kaws, because it made us smile, there was no profit motive back in the day. Buy what you love, it will be much more satisfying in the long run. Trust those who have been collecting for love for the better part of 2 decades. None of whom will tell you that you should “invest,” unless they are trying to hype one of their interests. Really good post from what I've seen over the last 15 months, since I started collecting!
I would say though that every artist has influence from elsewhere. The degree of influence will vary and sometimes pieces are more of a homage to an artist or piece they admire and were influenced by rather than necessarily a cash grab. Obviously it's hard to know which is which and certainly doesn't convey that much originality unless especially clever.
Banksy is an interesting one, because as street art with a message it obviously has value. But equivalent stencil artists mostly sell pretty cheaply (as he once did of course), because often the artistic merit in terms of skill involved isn't especially high in lots of cases, from what I've seen. E.g. I saw a Banksy Sale Ends at the London Art Fair last Jan, (with a £35k price tag next to it) and thought it looked pretty dead. Maybe down to framing in part (too much white in a white frame for me so it bled the colour), but still..
In terms of the two Japanese artists you mention, they are a prime example of taste. Certainly the latter, which is very abstract, doesn't really appeal to me!
Ive never bought from them, as their artists don’t fit with my taste in art. There are still plenty of people who buy for the love of art, not money, I think, and as such don’t give two hoots whether something they’ve bought sells out or not. While you are right that there are plenty of folks who buy because of the love of the art. This forum unfortunately devolved into a place where the majority on here seem to only be interested in selling or speculating. There is significantly less discussion of artists past their value long term or as a flip. Frankly speaking, who gives a rats a$$ if a print sells out instantly. As many of us on here have seen over the years, the flavors of the month more often than not prove to be readily available at affordable prices a few months past the hype bubble. I wish there was more discussion about art and releases and less about value. I mean the fact that a discussion about “roy’s people’s” appropriated art with a little figurine attached gets more discussion than a guy like Taku Obata, or Meguru Yamaguchi, both Urban artists and both making serious waves in the Japanese contemporary urban art scene is beyond me. I feel like many of the sheeple on here would rather spend their money on banksy ephemera and make steve rich, than actually buy a piece of art that they love and perhaps one day will be valuable. In the end, remember that many of us old timers bought Banksy because we loved what he stood for, or Kaws, because it made us smile, there was no profit motive back in the day. Buy what you love, it will be much more satisfying in the long run. Trust those who have been collecting for love for the better part of 2 decades. None of whom will tell you that you should “invest,” unless they are trying to hype one of their interests. Really good post from what I've seen over the last 15 months, since I started collecting! I would say though that every artist has influence from elsewhere. The degree of influence will vary and sometimes pieces are more of a homage to an artist or piece they admire and were influenced by rather than necessarily a cash grab. Obviously it's hard to know which is which and certainly doesn't convey that much originality unless especially clever. Banksy is an interesting one, because as street art with a message it obviously has value. But equivalent stencil artists mostly sell pretty cheaply (as he once did of course), because often the artistic merit in terms of skill involved isn't especially high in lots of cases, from what I've seen. E.g. I saw a Banksy Sale Ends at the London Art Fair last Jan, (with a £35k price tag next to it) and thought it looked pretty dead. Maybe down to framing in part (too much white in a white frame for me so it bled the colour), but still.. In terms of the two Japanese artists you mention, they are a prime example of taste. Certainly the latter, which is very abstract, doesn't really appeal to me!
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by sgolby on Apr 12, 2021 20:13:50 GMT 1, ecudat agreed, art is certainly about taste, and I personally love abstract art, especially that which is born from graffiti. My point was simply that this board more and more feels like a reddit board dedicated to art investment as opposed to an art forum where people are introduced to and discuss artists and movements, as opposed to value.
ecudat agreed, art is certainly about taste, and I personally love abstract art, especially that which is born from graffiti. My point was simply that this board more and more feels like a reddit board dedicated to art investment as opposed to an art forum where people are introduced to and discuss artists and movements, as opposed to value.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by acaipride on Apr 12, 2021 20:19:13 GMT 1, That's rich of GP to criticise flippers when they themselves hold a significant % of their own releases to flip at well above secondary prices during their 'vault sale'. This being said flipping a charity print is a complete d*ck move. For sure. But until GP sort out their releases and find a way to prevent flipping (or reduce its lustre), it'll happen on anything and everything. I was actually wondering who determines their prices? E.g. why are Whatson's sold at £300 or £400 when they know even the average ones will be worth a grand a few hours later? IS it to create hype, or artist trying be affordable to all? If the latter, then they should probably try to find a (fair and decent) way to make it available to all, not just people with the fastest internet and/or bots.
I may be completely wrong, but wouldn't GP be suffer from the same sick feeling year after year on their vault sales that they sell at market prices, clearly stated by them as a no secret thing that they do?
That's rich of GP to criticise flippers when they themselves hold a significant % of their own releases to flip at well above secondary prices during their 'vault sale'. This being said flipping a charity print is a complete d*ck move. For sure. But until GP sort out their releases and find a way to prevent flipping (or reduce its lustre), it'll happen on anything and everything. I was actually wondering who determines their prices? E.g. why are Whatson's sold at £300 or £400 when they know even the average ones will be worth a grand a few hours later? IS it to create hype, or artist trying be affordable to all? If the latter, then they should probably try to find a (fair and decent) way to make it available to all, not just people with the fastest internet and/or bots. I may be completely wrong, but wouldn't GP be suffer from the same sick feeling year after year on their vault sales that they sell at market prices, clearly stated by them as a no secret thing that they do?
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by ecudat on Apr 12, 2021 20:21:08 GMT 1, Agreed with that sgolby. Some of the pinned threads are quite cool but yes lots of fawning over a handful of artists much of the time.
Agreed with that sgolby. Some of the pinned threads are quite cool but yes lots of fawning over a handful of artists much of the time.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by sgolby on Apr 12, 2021 21:32:46 GMT 1, ecudat the next release from Whatson will be via lottery. So they are seemingly trying to make it more fair. Also, for many GP releases you can preorder by messaging them.
ecudat the next release from Whatson will be via lottery. So they are seemingly trying to make it more fair. Also, for many GP releases you can preorder by messaging them.
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by ecudat on Apr 12, 2021 21:41:39 GMT 1, Yeh I saw that about the next Whatson. I'll apply if I like it for sure. (Panda was lottery too I think but think they found the bots and resellers were just as bad anyway. I didnt apply for that one as didn't like it).
Thanks for the heads up. I've found them a bit hit and miss so far with replying to messages. Same with some artists though!
Yeh I saw that about the next Whatson. I'll apply if I like it for sure. (Panda was lottery too I think but think they found the bots and resellers were just as bad anyway. I didnt apply for that one as didn't like it).
Thanks for the heads up. I've found them a bit hit and miss so far with replying to messages. Same with some artists though!
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by jimmyjam on Apr 12, 2021 21:54:52 GMT 1, Half the sales are pulled or pre sold anyways on most releases these days. It’s hard to tell what is really “sold out” properly. I mean having Pre sales for a month + is kind of cheating as well.
I know many artists and galleries who hold prints from releases for themselves and other resellers. It’s part of “creating” a market..
Half the sales are pulled or pre sold anyways on most releases these days. It’s hard to tell what is really “sold out” properly. I mean having Pre sales for a month + is kind of cheating as well.
I know many artists and galleries who hold prints from releases for themselves and other resellers. It’s part of “creating” a market..
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Artists that Sell Out Instantly, by tab1 on Apr 12, 2021 23:22:30 GMT 1, That's rich of GP to criticise flippers when they themselves hold a significant % of their own releases to flip at well above secondary prices during their 'vault sale'. This being said flipping a charity print is a complete d*ck move. For sure. But until GP sort out their releases and find a way to prevent flipping (or reduce its lustre), it'll happen on anything and everything. I was actually wondering who determines their prices? E.g. why are Whatson's sold at £300 or £400 when they know even the average ones will be worth a grand a few hours later? IS it to create hype, or artist trying be affordable to all? If the latter, then they should probably try to find a (fair and decent) way to make it available to all, not just people with the fastest internet and/or bots.
If they sold at or near to secondary market prices on a release only a small percentage of the edition would sell and the vaults sales would fall flat where profit margins are great , all about marketing and hype. Most people when they see an item and double the cost from a release within a week drives demand
That's rich of GP to criticise flippers when they themselves hold a significant % of their own releases to flip at well above secondary prices during their 'vault sale'. This being said flipping a charity print is a complete d*ck move. For sure. But until GP sort out their releases and find a way to prevent flipping (or reduce its lustre), it'll happen on anything and everything. I was actually wondering who determines their prices? E.g. why are Whatson's sold at £300 or £400 when they know even the average ones will be worth a grand a few hours later? IS it to create hype, or artist trying be affordable to all? If the latter, then they should probably try to find a (fair and decent) way to make it available to all, not just people with the fastest internet and/or bots. If they sold at or near to secondary market prices on a release only a small percentage of the edition would sell and the vaults sales would fall flat where profit margins are great , all about marketing and hype. Most people when they see an item and double the cost from a release within a week drives demand
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