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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Fairxat on Jan 30, 2022 3:48:55 GMT 1, For funks sake. Stop writing essays on your thoughts, no one cares. If you like it and can afford it then buy it, if you can’t then don’t it’s very simple. So many snoozefests in here treating a heni release like it’s a board meeting or a newsnight panel where they need to get their “points” across 😴
They need to hear assurances of their potential purchase
For funks sake. Stop writing essays on your thoughts, no one cares. If you like it and can afford it then buy it, if you can’t then don’t it’s very simple. So many snoozefests in here treating a heni release like it’s a board meeting or a newsnight panel where they need to get their “points” across 😴 They need to hear assurances of their potential purchase |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by tasmannelson on Jan 30, 2022 4:53:54 GMT 1, Number 4 has a coronavirus theme to it.
Number 4 has a coronavirus theme to it.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by wave on Jan 30, 2022 9:03:47 GMT 1, Number 4 has a coronavirus theme to it.
That was my favourite but i can’t unsee now.
Number 4 has a coronavirus theme to it. That was my favourite but i can’t unsee now. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by leighdrive on Jan 30, 2022 10:05:39 GMT 1, They all look like giant red sphincters
If your sphincter looks like any of these get thyself to A&E ASAP.
They all look like giant red sphincters If your sphincter looks like any of these get thyself to A&E ASAP. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Sixty Bells on Jan 30, 2022 10:26:01 GMT 1, We did this for the Virtues. Does a anyone remember how close the result was to the actual edition size?
We did this for the Virtues. Does a anyone remember how close the result was to the actual edition size?
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by caturra on Jan 30, 2022 11:11:06 GMT 1, Torn between #4 and #5...
Different question: Does anyone know where Heni is shipping the works from?
Torn between #4 and #5...
Different question: Does anyone know where Heni is shipping the works from?
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by whatsthestory on Jan 30, 2022 11:30:27 GMT 1, It seems that you don't pay VAT on the NFT and also don't have to pay VAT when you exchange for physical (assuming it's like the Currency).
So basically just buy the NFT and exchange for physical shortly after and save yourself some money I guess
I like the images, think there will be quite a few of them though
It seems that you don't pay VAT on the NFT and also don't have to pay VAT when you exchange for physical (assuming it's like the Currency).
So basically just buy the NFT and exchange for physical shortly after and save yourself some money I guess
I like the images, think there will be quite a few of them though
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by whatsthestory on Jan 30, 2022 11:51:59 GMT 1, They need to hear assurances of their potential purchase Exactly what annoyed me about the 160+ page Currency thread. Lots of ego massaging, and coddling protectionism.
There was a lot more to debate conceptually with the Currency though. This is back to a more normal release
They need to hear assurances of their potential purchase Exactly what annoyed me about the 160+ page Currency thread. Lots of ego massaging, and coddling protectionism. There was a lot more to debate conceptually with the Currency though. This is back to a more normal release |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by caturra on Jan 30, 2022 12:42:33 GMT 1, Torn between #4 and #5... Different question: Does anyone know where Heni is shipping the works from? UK
Torn between #4 and #5... Different question: Does anyone know where Heni is shipping the works from? UK Thanks! |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by DB on Jan 30, 2022 13:12:18 GMT 1, On second thoughts that glitter could be an issue. Pet hate! If I ever receive a glittered greetings/birthday card, its goes straight in the bin, no exceptions. Take the money out first mind.  I was thinking... As this is basically a scanned image of glitter, will the glitter still...er...glitter?
The glitter is a screen printed layer applied to the Giclee.
On second thoughts that glitter could be an issue. Pet hate! If I ever receive a glittered greetings/birthday card, its goes straight in the bin, no exceptions. Take the money out first mind. I was thinking... As this is basically a scanned image of glitter, will the glitter still...er...glitter? The glitter is a screen printed layer applied to the Giclee. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by slevin on Jan 30, 2022 13:47:20 GMT 1, H10-3 Theodora works really well for me
H10-3 Theodora works really well for me
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by playman3 on Jan 30, 2022 13:51:46 GMT 1,
Anyone have an idea what taxes and duties to the US may look like for one of these?
Anyone have an idea what taxes and duties to the US may look like for one of these? |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Schrödinger's Chat on Jan 30, 2022 14:41:07 GMT 1, It seems that you don't pay VAT on the NFT and also don't have to pay VAT when you exchange for physical (assuming it's like the Currency). So basically just buy the NFT and exchange for physical shortly after and save yourself some money I guess I like the images, think there will be quite a few of them though That's not the case. Sorry. Basically, because this time it is not a proper NFT. It's what they call an NFT deed (which isn't really an NFT). The FAQs clearly state that you will have to pay tax.
The redeemer of the physical pays the Vat. Thinking this through, it could be quite a lot of faffing about if you are not someone who is into crypto / NFTs, changing money to crypto to buy the deed, to then go through the redeem process with heni and pay the Vat and p&p. If you miss this drop it would probably be easier to find someone selling a physical copy and know what your total cost will be off the bat.
It seems that you don't pay VAT on the NFT and also don't have to pay VAT when you exchange for physical (assuming it's like the Currency). So basically just buy the NFT and exchange for physical shortly after and save yourself some money I guess I like the images, think there will be quite a few of them though That's not the case. Sorry. Basically, because this time it is not a proper NFT. It's what they call an NFT deed (which isn't really an NFT). The FAQs clearly state that you will have to pay tax. The redeemer of the physical pays the Vat. Thinking this through, it could be quite a lot of faffing about if you are not someone who is into crypto / NFTs, changing money to crypto to buy the deed, to then go through the redeem process with heni and pay the Vat and p&p. If you miss this drop it would probably be easier to find someone selling a physical copy and know what your total cost will be off the bat. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by snoozy on Jan 30, 2022 14:48:46 GMT 1, 3
Because it seems more natural and doesn't send my head into spins!
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Because it seems more natural and doesn't send my head into spins!
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Lord Lucas Roham on Jan 30, 2022 15:19:57 GMT 1, That's not the case. Sorry. Basically, because this time it is not a proper NFT. It's what they call an NFT deed (which isn't really an NFT). The FAQs clearly state that you will have to pay tax. The redeemer of the physical pays the Vat. Thinking this through, it could be quite a lot of faffing about if you are not someone who is into crypto / NFTs, changing money to crypto to buy the deed, to then go through the redeem process with heni and pay the Vat and p&p. If you miss this drop it would probably be easier to find someone selling a physical copy and know what your total cost will be off the bat.
State your source please.
That's not the case. Sorry. Basically, because this time it is not a proper NFT. It's what they call an NFT deed (which isn't really an NFT). The FAQs clearly state that you will have to pay tax. The redeemer of the physical pays the Vat. Thinking this through, it could be quite a lot of faffing about if you are not someone who is into crypto / NFTs, changing money to crypto to buy the deed, to then go through the redeem process with heni and pay the Vat and p&p. If you miss this drop it would probably be easier to find someone selling a physical copy and know what your total cost will be off the bat. State your source please. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Schrödinger's Chat on Jan 30, 2022 15:56:06 GMT 1, The redeemer of the physical pays the Vat. Thinking this through, it could be quite a lot of faffing about if you are not someone who is into crypto / NFTs, changing money to crypto to buy the deed, to then go through the redeem process with heni and pay the Vat and p&p. If you miss this drop it would probably be easier to find someone selling a physical copy and know what your total cost will be off the bat. State your source please.
to be fair my statement was conjecture, I assume that the person who redeems the physical pays Vat, because it definitely isn't charged on the nft at point of purchase, but definitely is added to the physical at point of purchase, as is p&p.
As for taxes, import duty etc. it's in the extended FAQ
heni-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/categories/4418126950289-HENI-Editions
The redeemer of the physical pays the Vat. Thinking this through, it could be quite a lot of faffing about if you are not someone who is into crypto / NFTs, changing money to crypto to buy the deed, to then go through the redeem process with heni and pay the Vat and p&p. If you miss this drop it would probably be easier to find someone selling a physical copy and know what your total cost will be off the bat. State your source please. to be fair my statement was conjecture, I assume that the person who redeems the physical pays Vat, because it definitely isn't charged on the nft at point of purchase, but definitely is added to the physical at point of purchase, as is p&p. As for taxes, import duty etc. it's in the extended FAQ heni-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/categories/4418126950289-HENI-Editions |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Mass on Jan 30, 2022 15:59:12 GMT 1, I dislike all of them due to the deep red and black colour it’s not appealing to me at all
I dislike all of them due to the deep red and black colour it’s not appealing to me at all
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by whatsthestory on Jan 30, 2022 16:20:31 GMT 1, State your source please. to be fair my statement was conjecture, I assume that the person who redeems the physical pays Vat, because it definitely isn't charged on the nft at point of purchase, but definitely is added to the physical at point of purchase, as is p&p. As for taxes, import duty etc. it's in the extended FAQ heni-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/categories/4418126950289-HENI-Editions
It's very unclear, I can't see anything explicitly saying that the redeemer of the deed pays VAT.
All I know for sure is VAT isn't added when you buy the NFT and it is for the physical.
State your source please. to be fair my statement was conjecture, I assume that the person who redeems the physical pays Vat, because it definitely isn't charged on the nft at point of purchase, but definitely is added to the physical at point of purchase, as is p&p. As for taxes, import duty etc. it's in the extended FAQ heni-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/categories/4418126950289-HENI-EditionsIt's very unclear, I can't see anything explicitly saying that the redeemer of the deed pays VAT. All I know for sure is VAT isn't added when you buy the NFT and it is for the physical. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by handy on Jan 30, 2022 16:20:43 GMT 1, My feeling towards them is different depending on viewing distance and the presence of the others.
E.g. the photo with DH and all 5 around him vs. the 5 individuals shown above.
My feeling towards them is different depending on viewing distance and the presence of the others.
E.g. the photo with DH and all 5 around him vs. the 5 individuals shown above.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Schrödinger's Chat on Jan 30, 2022 16:30:50 GMT 1, to be fair my statement was conjecture, I assume that the person who redeems the physical pays Vat, because it definitely isn't charged on the nft at point of purchase, but definitely is added to the physical at point of purchase, as is p&p. As for taxes, import duty etc. it's in the extended FAQ heni-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/categories/4418126950289-HENI-EditionsIt's very unclear, I can't see anything explicitly saying that the redeemer of the deed pays VAT. All I know for sure is VAT isn't added when you buy the NFT and it is for the physical.
to be fair my statement was conjecture, I assume that the person who redeems the physical pays Vat, because it definitely isn't charged on the nft at point of purchase, but definitely is added to the physical at point of purchase, as is p&p. As for taxes, import duty etc. it's in the extended FAQ heni-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/categories/4418126950289-HENI-EditionsIt's very unclear, I can't see anything explicitly saying that the redeemer of the deed pays VAT. All I know for sure is VAT isn't added when you buy the NFT and it is for the physical. From Discord, not sure it's any clearer, however it doesn't rule out paying vat on redemption day. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Lord Lucas Roham on Jan 30, 2022 17:13:18 GMT 1, They said the exact same thing with The Currency hence the confusion.
They said the exact same thing with The Currency hence the confusion.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Schrödinger's Chat on Jan 30, 2022 17:44:08 GMT 1, Someone who has redeemed the physical currency must be able to confirm what additional charges they had to pay. I'm sure there are a few people on here who have done that.
Someone who has redeemed the physical currency must be able to confirm what additional charges they had to pay. I'm sure there are a few people on here who have done that.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by teabaggins on Jan 30, 2022 18:47:56 GMT 1, They said the exact same thing with The Currency hence the confusion. I think the confusion arises because people are thinking NFT deeds are the same as NFTs when they are not. An NFT deed seems to be nothing more than a receipt that shows you have paid but have not received the print yet. I blame Heni for using such a confusing term to describe this non-NFT.
Its not confusing. It’s quite clear actually. NFT’s are and offer quite a bit more than Jpegs and collectibles. These are essential art futures and it’s pretty brilliant.
They said the exact same thing with The Currency hence the confusion. I think the confusion arises because people are thinking NFT deeds are the same as NFTs when they are not. An NFT deed seems to be nothing more than a receipt that shows you have paid but have not received the print yet. I blame Heni for using such a confusing term to describe this non-NFT. Its not confusing. It’s quite clear actually. NFT’s are and offer quite a bit more than Jpegs and collectibles. These are essential art futures and it’s pretty brilliant. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by dunkers on Jan 30, 2022 18:55:38 GMT 1, They said the exact same thing with The Currency hence the confusion. I think the confusion arises because people are thinking NFT deeds are the same as NFTs when they are not. An NFT deed seems to be nothing more than a receipt that shows you have paid but have not received the print yet. I blame Heni for using such a confusing term to describe this non-NFT.
I don’t see the confusion. NFTs are not jpegs, NFTs are the verification of ownership recorded on the blockchain ledger. What heni are doing by using NFT as proof of ownership of a physical product is the best use of an NFT on an art project to date
They said the exact same thing with The Currency hence the confusion. I think the confusion arises because people are thinking NFT deeds are the same as NFTs when they are not. An NFT deed seems to be nothing more than a receipt that shows you have paid but have not received the print yet. I blame Heni for using such a confusing term to describe this non-NFT. I don’t see the confusion. NFTs are not jpegs, NFTs are the verification of ownership recorded on the blockchain ledger. What heni are doing by using NFT as proof of ownership of a physical product is the best use of an NFT on an art project to date |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by dunkers on Jan 30, 2022 19:00:39 GMT 1, I don’t see the confusion. NFTs are not jpegs, NFTs are the verification of ownership recorded on the blockchain ledger. What heni are doing by using NFT as proof of ownership of a physical product is the best use of an NFT on an art project to date But it is NOT an NFT. Why aren't people getting this???
Except you have the choice when you purchase so if you don’t take the print straight away then you do get an NFT which is kept until the print is redeemed by whomever owns the NFT at the time of redemption
I don’t see the confusion. NFTs are not jpegs, NFTs are the verification of ownership recorded on the blockchain ledger. What heni are doing by using NFT as proof of ownership of a physical product is the best use of an NFT on an art project to date But it is NOT an NFT. Why aren't people getting this??? Except you have the choice when you purchase so if you don’t take the print straight away then you do get an NFT which is kept until the print is redeemed by whomever owns the NFT at the time of redemption |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Dubman on Jan 30, 2022 19:12:41 GMT 1, So can you display the NFT?
Or is it just a token for when you want to redeem it for the original?
So can you display the NFT?
Or is it just a token for when you want to redeem it for the original?
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by dunkers on Jan 30, 2022 19:21:38 GMT 1, Except you have the choice when you purchase so if you don’t take the print straight away then you do get an NFT which is kept until the print is redeemed by whomever owns the NFT at the time of redemption Sorry, that's wrong. You get an NFT Deed, not an NFT. These are two different things.
It’s exactly the same, an NFT doesn’t have to be a picture. An NFT is just a digital token proving ownership. What do you class as an NFT?
Except you have the choice when you purchase so if you don’t take the print straight away then you do get an NFT which is kept until the print is redeemed by whomever owns the NFT at the time of redemption Sorry, that's wrong. You get an NFT Deed, not an NFT. These are two different things. It’s exactly the same, an NFT doesn’t have to be a picture. An NFT is just a digital token proving ownership. What do you class as an NFT? |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Amber Halo on Jan 30, 2022 19:32:16 GMT 1, Not saying these won't go up in value; they probably will at least in the short term. But does anyone else feel that they are priced high for timed editions? The Veils were 6000e if memory serves correct and limited to 75 editions each. Perhaps it's not fair to compare back to those as time marches on and everything seems to get more expense.
Not saying these won't go up in value; they probably will at least in the short term. But does anyone else feel that they are priced high for timed editions? The Veils were 6000e if memory serves correct and limited to 75 editions each. Perhaps it's not fair to compare back to those as time marches on and everything seems to get more expense.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by teabaggins on Jan 30, 2022 19:48:04 GMT 1, It’s exactly the same, an NFT doesn’t have to be a picture. An NFT is just a digital token proving ownership. What do you class as an NFT? They are *not* NFTs. That is why Heni are not calling them NFTs. I give up.
You are just flat out wrong. Heni is 100% calling them NFT’s. They issue you an NFT on the blockchain.
From Heni : “These are utility NFTs provided by HENI which serve the specific purpose of delaying receipt of the physical and enabling ease of trading. There are no additional utilities or perks associated with this type of NFT”.
But it’s an NFT no matter how you slice it.
It’s exactly the same, an NFT doesn’t have to be a picture. An NFT is just a digital token proving ownership. What do you class as an NFT? They are *not* NFTs. That is why Heni are not calling them NFTs. I give up. You are just flat out wrong. Heni is 100% calling them NFT’s. They issue you an NFT on the blockchain. From Heni : “These are utility NFTs provided by HENI which serve the specific purpose of delaying receipt of the physical and enabling ease of trading. There are no additional utilities or perks associated with this type of NFT”. But it’s an NFT no matter how you slice it. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Sixty Bells on Jan 30, 2022 20:07:07 GMT 1, Except you have the choice when you purchase so if you don’t take the print straight away then you do get an NFT which is kept until the print is redeemed by whomever owns the NFT at the time of redemption Sorry, that's wrong. You get an NFT Deed, not an NFT. These are two different things.
I’m afraid you’re wrong. It is an NFT. And you can even keep it after the three year window closes if for some reason you decide to not claim the physical. Not only that, it will also continue to be tradable if you chose that route, although it would be weird to trade them as they are not intended as artworks. It would be like trading your shop receipt.
All of this has been confirmed by Heni employed mods on the discord
Except you have the choice when you purchase so if you don’t take the print straight away then you do get an NFT which is kept until the print is redeemed by whomever owns the NFT at the time of redemption Sorry, that's wrong. You get an NFT Deed, not an NFT. These are two different things. I’m afraid you’re wrong. It is an NFT. And you can even keep it after the three year window closes if for some reason you decide to not claim the physical. Not only that, it will also continue to be tradable if you chose that route, although it would be weird to trade them as they are not intended as artworks. It would be like trading your shop receipt. All of this has been confirmed by Heni employed mods on the discord |
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