LJCal
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Labour V Conservative , by LJCal on Jul 5, 2024 1:18:41 GMT 1, I firmly believe we need to keep out people who do not support our values of toleranceโฆ Bye then ๐โโ๏ธ
I firmly believe we need to keep out people who do not support our values of toleranceโฆ Bye then ๐โโ๏ธ You off somewhere? I'm sure everyone will miss your valuable contributions. |
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LJCal
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Labour V Conservative , by LJCal on Jul 5, 2024 1:25:56 GMT 1, It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem.
It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. I think you're conflating problems. Illegal immigration is one of a multitude of issues and probably shouldn't be as much in focus as it is but dismissing it as not being a problem at all is plain wrong. When you've had your face slashed open by an illegal immigrant, who was also an extremist terrorist, maybe you'll take a different view. Too many people on here live in some little suburban bubble, they should probably get out a bit more and maybe meet some people with different backgrounds and listen to their experiences rather than dismissing them all as bigots. |
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loui
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Labour V Conservative , by loui on Jul 5, 2024 6:37:01 GMT 1, You off somewhere? I'm sure everyone will miss your valuable contributions.
You off somewhere? I'm sure everyone will miss your valuable contributions. Yes, I thought you would be so dumb to prove my point. You are not tolerant at all ๐
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ubl
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Labour V Conservative , by ubl on Jul 5, 2024 7:32:59 GMT 1, It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. I think you're conflating problems. Illegal immigration is one of a multitude of issues and probably shouldn't be as much in focus as it is but dismissing it as not being a problem at all is plain wrong. When you've had your face slashed open by an illegal immigrant, who was also an extremist terrorist, maybe you'll take a different view. Too many people on here live in some little suburban bubble, they should probably get out a bit more and maybe meet some people with different backgrounds and listen to their experiences rather than dismissing them all as bigots.
No, it shouldn't be as much as a topic as it is, when the real issues get sweeped under a rug. I don't think this government would have gotten away with half the things it has done, if it were in any other country in Europe. Unlawfully suspending parliament to force a no deal Brexit, by letting go of everyone who opposed it? Promising to invest 100's of millions that the UK sends to the EU into the NHS? ... But yes, immigrants. The real issue. And yes people that live in some suburban bubble should go out and speak with people from different backgrounds.
It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. I think you're conflating problems. Illegal immigration is one of a multitude of issues and probably shouldn't be as much in focus as it is but dismissing it as not being a problem at all is plain wrong. When you've had your face slashed open by an illegal immigrant, who was also an extremist terrorist, maybe you'll take a different view. Too many people on here live in some little suburban bubble, they should probably get out a bit more and maybe meet some people with different backgrounds and listen to their experiences rather than dismissing them all as bigots. No, it shouldn't be as much as a topic as it is, when the real issues get sweeped under a rug. I don't think this government would have gotten away with half the things it has done, if it were in any other country in Europe. Unlawfully suspending parliament to force a no deal Brexit, by letting go of everyone who opposed it? Promising to invest 100's of millions that the UK sends to the EU into the NHS? ... But yes, immigrants. The real issue. And yes people that live in some suburban bubble should go out and speak with people from different backgrounds. |
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Reader
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Labour V Conservative , by Reader on Jul 5, 2024 8:02:29 GMT 1, It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. When you've had your face slashed open by a far-right bigot, who was also an extremist, maybe you'll take a different view.
It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. When you've had your face slashed open by a far-right bigot, who was also an extremist, maybe you'll take a different view. Fixed it for you. Yours sounded like Farage's campaign. |
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LJCal
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Labour V Conservative , by LJCal on Jul 5, 2024 8:53:52 GMT 1, When you've had your face slashed open by a far-right bigot, who was also an extremist, maybe you'll take a different view. Fixed it for you. Yours sounded like Farage's campaign.
When you've had your face slashed open by a far-right bigot, who was also an extremist, maybe you'll take a different view. Fixed it for you. Yours sounded like Farage's campaign. Or maybe personal experience? But hey Iโm guessing you live in a comfortable little bubble where youโre free to indulge in your utopian fantasies, and as long as in issue doesnโt directly impact you, can dismiss the concerns of millions of people. Sorry to say pal but itโs people like you, not me, who are laying the ground for the far right. |
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LJCal
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Labour V Conservative , by LJCal on Jul 5, 2024 8:55:10 GMT 1, You off somewhere? I'm sure everyone will miss your valuable contributions. Yes, I thought you would be so dumb to prove my point. You are not tolerant at all ๐
You off somewhere? I'm sure everyone will miss your valuable contributions. Yes, I thought you would be so dumb to prove my point. You are not tolerant at all ๐
Iโve tolerated your incoherent ramblings for the last few months. Itโs clear youโre a troll or a cretin, which one is it? Maybe both? |
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Labour V Conservative , by Pete the Post on Jul 5, 2024 9:00:49 GMT 1, When you've had your face slashed open by a far-right bigot, who was also an extremist, maybe you'll take a different view. Fixed it for you. Yours sounded like Farage's campaign.
When you've had your face slashed open by a far-right bigot, who was also an extremist, maybe you'll take a different view. Fixed it for you. Yours sounded like Farage's campaign. He works for his local tory party mate, its on his CV somewhere. |
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Reader
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Labour V Conservative , by Reader on Jul 5, 2024 9:52:35 GMT 1, Fixed it for you. Yours sounded like Farage's campaign. Or maybe personal experience? But hey Iโm guessing you live in a comfortable little bubble where youโre free to indulge in your utopian fantasies, and as long as in issue doesnโt directly impact you, can dismiss the concerns of millions of people. Sorry to say pal but itโs people like you, not me, who are laying the ground for the far right.
Fixed it for you. Yours sounded like Farage's campaign. Or maybe personal experience? But hey Iโm guessing you live in a comfortable little bubble where youโre free to indulge in your utopian fantasies, and as long as in issue doesnโt directly impact you, can dismiss the concerns of millions of people. Sorry to say pal but itโs people like you, not me, who are laying the ground for the far right. I grew up on a council estate in a mixed race family chased from pillar to post by ignorant far right bigots. And it wasn't "immigrants" glassing each other every Saturday night. Sorry your little Englander bubble got burst but to attribute violence to immigrants perpetuates the very worse of racist Britain, who do you think stitches the British up everyday of the week at the local A&E ? |
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loui
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Labour V Conservative , by loui on Jul 5, 2024 10:16:00 GMT 1, Yes, I thought you would be so dumb to prove my point. You are not tolerant at all ๐
Iโve tolerated your incoherent ramblings for the last few months. Itโs clear youโre a troll or a cretin, which one is it? Maybe both?
wow I hear a lot of anger in you. Iโm sorry that you feel that way.
Yes, I thought you would be so dumb to prove my point. You are not tolerant at all ๐
Iโve tolerated your incoherent ramblings for the last few months. Itโs clear youโre a troll or a cretin, which one is it? Maybe both? wow I hear a lot of anger in you. Iโm sorry that you feel that way. |
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Reader
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Labour V Conservative , by Reader on Jul 5, 2024 10:24:54 GMT 1, Iโve tolerated your incoherent ramblings for the last few months. Itโs clear youโre a troll or a cretin, which one is it? Maybe both? wow I hear a lot of anger in you. Iโm sorry that you feel that way.
Iโve tolerated your incoherent ramblings for the last few months. Itโs clear youโre a troll or a cretin, which one is it? Maybe both? wow I hear a lot of anger in you. Iโm sorry that you feel that way. A bad day for Tories apparently. |
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loui
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Labour V Conservative , by loui on Jul 5, 2024 10:38:00 GMT 1, wow I hear a lot of anger in you. Iโm sorry that you feel that way. A bad day for Tories apparently.
wow I hear a lot of anger in you. Iโm sorry that you feel that way. A bad day for Tories apparently. Yes, the one country in Western Europe that chose the humane path ๐๐ |
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mojo
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Labour V Conservative , by mojo on Jul 5, 2024 11:00:00 GMT 1,
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Labour V Conservative , by Happy Shopper on Jul 5, 2024 11:07:06 GMT 1, A bad day for Tories apparently. Yes, the one country in Western Europe that chose the humane path ๐๐
We were just lucky the right wing vote was split.
The perfect example is Jacob Rees-Mogg. Would have won if it wasn't for the Reform party. Hahaha
A bad day for Tories apparently. Yes, the one country in Western Europe that chose the humane path ๐๐ We were just lucky the right wing vote was split. The perfect example is Jacob Rees-Mogg. Would have won if it wasn't for the Reform party. Hahaha |
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Fuzzyduck121
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Labour V Conservative , by Fuzzyduck121 on Jul 5, 2024 11:28:30 GMT 1, UK politics is truly bizarre
Last night Labour received around 2.5 million less votes and 3.4% less share of the vote than Corbyn got in 2017 when he lost
On paper its a huge result but the numbers show that labour simply benefitted by the right wing vote splitting down the middle
You only need look at Scotland to see that things can swing massively one way and back to the other, SNP went from bust to boom and back to bust
A lot of eyes now on Starmer, if he delivers then fair play, if he doesnt then it will be straight back out the door
To put it another way, how many new voters has starmer won over and brought into the Labour party, on paper none, in fact hes lost some and yet won by an enormous margin
UK politics is truly bizarre
Last night Labour received around 2.5 million less votes and 3.4% less share of the vote than Corbyn got in 2017 when he lost
On paper its a huge result but the numbers show that labour simply benefitted by the right wing vote splitting down the middle
You only need look at Scotland to see that things can swing massively one way and back to the other, SNP went from bust to boom and back to bust
A lot of eyes now on Starmer, if he delivers then fair play, if he doesnt then it will be straight back out the door
To put it another way, how many new voters has starmer won over and brought into the Labour party, on paper none, in fact hes lost some and yet won by an enormous margin
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Labour V Conservative , by Pete the Post on Jul 5, 2024 11:50:28 GMT 1, UK politics is truly bizarre Last night Labour received around 2.5 million less votes and 3.4% less share of the vote than Corbyn got in 2017 when he lost On paper its a huge result but the numbers show that labour simply benefitted by the right wing vote splitting down the middle You only need look at Scotland to see that things can swing massively one way and back to the other, SNP went from bust to boom and back to bust A lot of eyes now on Starmer, if he delivers then fair play, if he doesnt then it will be straight back out the door To put it another way, how many new voters has starmer won over and brought into the Labour party, on paper none, in fact hes lost some and yet won by an enormous margin
UK politics is truly bizarre Last night Labour received around 2.5 million less votes and 3.4% less share of the vote than Corbyn got in 2017 when he lost On paper its a huge result but the numbers show that labour simply benefitted by the right wing vote splitting down the middle You only need look at Scotland to see that things can swing massively one way and back to the other, SNP went from bust to boom and back to bust A lot of eyes now on Starmer, if he delivers then fair play, if he doesnt then it will be straight back out the door To put it another way, how many new voters has starmer won over and brought into the Labour party, on paper none, in fact hes lost some and yet won by an enormous margin Labour didnt win, the tories turned themselves into an even bigger dumpster fire than usual. Which also led to that vote split you mention, Thank F for that, and FPTP for once! |
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LJCal
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Labour V Conservative , by LJCal on Jul 5, 2024 11:52:58 GMT 1, Or maybe personal experience? But hey Iโm guessing you live in a comfortable little bubble where youโre free to indulge in your utopian fantasies, and as long as in issue doesnโt directly impact you, can dismiss the concerns of millions of people. Sorry to say pal but itโs people like you, not me, who are laying the ground for the far right. I grew up on a council estate in a mixed race family chased from pillar to post by ignorant far right bigots. And it wasn't "immigrants" glassing each other every Saturday night. Sorry your little Englander bubble got burst but to attribute violence to immigrants perpetuates the very worse of racist Britain, who do you think stitches the British up everyday of the week at the local A&E ?
Youโre clearly pre programmed though, I shouldnโt have to qualify absolutely everything I say because youโre too bitter to understand there may be a wider context. I just donโt think it should be controversial to want to stop illegal immigration and support positive immigration by attracting the best talent or decent hard working people. The last people Iโd want running the country are populist clowns like Farage but that doesnโt mean I disagree with everything the right stands for in principle.
Or maybe personal experience? But hey Iโm guessing you live in a comfortable little bubble where youโre free to indulge in your utopian fantasies, and as long as in issue doesnโt directly impact you, can dismiss the concerns of millions of people. Sorry to say pal but itโs people like you, not me, who are laying the ground for the far right. I grew up on a council estate in a mixed race family chased from pillar to post by ignorant far right bigots. And it wasn't "immigrants" glassing each other every Saturday night. Sorry your little Englander bubble got burst but to attribute violence to immigrants perpetuates the very worse of racist Britain, who do you think stitches the British up everyday of the week at the local A&E ? What are you going on about? Iโm talking about something that actually happened to me by someone highly undesirable who should have never been allowed in this country, clearly that is not how I feel about 99% of immigrants. Iโm also an immigrant, my parents are immigrants, my wife is an immigrant, my son is an immigrant! And Iโve lived in 6 countries, Iโm not that hypocritical! Also lived on an Estate until I was 16 and yeah surround by white trash and fully aware there are plenty of highly undesirable natives who far out number dangerous illegal immigrants. Youโre clearly pre programmed though, I shouldnโt have to qualify absolutely everything I say because youโre too bitter to understand there may be a wider context. I just donโt think it should be controversial to want to stop illegal immigration and support positive immigration by attracting the best talent or decent hard working people. The last people Iโd want running the country are populist clowns like Farage but that doesnโt mean I disagree with everything the right stands for in principle. |
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loui
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Labour V Conservative , by loui on Jul 5, 2024 12:04:40 GMT 1, I grew up on a council estate in a mixed race family chased from pillar to post by ignorant far right bigots. And it wasn't "immigrants" glassing each other every Saturday night. Sorry your little Englander bubble got burst but to attribute violence to immigrants perpetuates the very worse of racist Britain, who do you think stitches the British up everyday of the week at the local A&E ? What are you going on about? Iโm talking about something that actually happened to me by someone highly undesirable who should have never been allowed in this country, (....) I just donโt think it should be controversial to want to stop illegal immigration and support positive immigration by attracting the best talent,
Are you saying now that there is a difference between when you're born in UK and slap someone in the face and when you're a migrant in UK and slap someone in the face? And you only want to attract the best talent? Tsk tsk.
I grew up on a council estate in a mixed race family chased from pillar to post by ignorant far right bigots. And it wasn't "immigrants" glassing each other every Saturday night. Sorry your little Englander bubble got burst but to attribute violence to immigrants perpetuates the very worse of racist Britain, who do you think stitches the British up everyday of the week at the local A&E ? What are you going on about? Iโm talking about something that actually happened to me by someone highly undesirable who should have never been allowed in this country, (....) I just donโt think it should be controversial to want to stop illegal immigration and support positive immigration by attracting the best talent,
Are you saying now that there is a difference between when you're born in UK and slap someone in the face and when you're a migrant in UK and slap someone in the face? And you only want to attract the best talent? Tsk tsk.
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LJCal
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Labour V Conservative , by LJCal on Jul 5, 2024 12:07:02 GMT 1, What are you going on about? Iโm talking about something that actually happened to me by someone highly undesirable who should have never been allowed in this country, (....) I just donโt think it should be controversial to want to stop illegal immigration and support positive immigration by attracting the best talent,
Are you saying now that there is a difference between when you're born in UK and slap someone in the face and when you're a migrant in UK and slap someone in the face? And you only want to attract the best talent? Tsk tsk.
What are you going on about? Iโm talking about something that actually happened to me by someone highly undesirable who should have never been allowed in this country, (....) I just donโt think it should be controversial to want to stop illegal immigration and support positive immigration by attracting the best talent,
Are you saying now that there is a difference between when you're born in UK and slap someone in the face and when you're a migrant in UK and slap someone in the face? And you only want to attract the best talent? Tsk tsk.
Loui jog on pal, youโre an irritant who knows fuck all about fuck all. As I said I also immigrated here so why donโt I slap you in the face, then you slap yourself in the face (assuming youโre born here) and you tell me which hurts more. And FYI I didnt get slapped in the face I got my face cut open with a 10 inch carving knife along with 4 other people who got stabbed the same night by same person. Guy was a known terrorist here illegally, maybe wait until something like that happens to you before calling for open borders. |
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PC Baby
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Labour V Conservative , by PC Baby on Jul 5, 2024 12:07:34 GMT 1, It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem.
"Large parts of Central London remain in the ownership of the original families and are now known as the 'Great Estates':
Bloomsbury = The Bedford Estate
Mayfair and Belgravia = The Grosvenor Estate
Marylebone (Eastern) = Howard de Walden Estate
Marble Arch = The Portland Estate
Chelsea = The Cadogan Estate
Marylebone (Western) = The Portman Estate
Regent's Street = The Crown Estate..."
It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. To come back to the point ubl made, there are some interesting facts about Landed Estates lording it over ordinary Londoners (just as an example) - and their track records as landlords haven't always been great! "Large parts of Central London remain in the ownership of the original families and are now known as the 'Great Estates': Bloomsbury = The Bedford Estate Mayfair and Belgravia = The Grosvenor Estate Marylebone (Eastern) = Howard de Walden Estate Marble Arch = The Portland Estate Chelsea = The Cadogan Estate Marylebone (Western) = The Portman Estate Regent's Street = The Crown Estate..." |
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drip
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Labour V Conservative , by drip on Jul 5, 2024 12:29:27 GMT 1, Yes, the one country in Western Europe that chose the humane path ๐๐ We were just lucky the right wing vote was split. The perfect example is Jacob Rees-Mogg. Would have won if it wasn't for the Reform party. Hahaha
Yes, the one country in Western Europe that chose the humane path ๐๐ We were just lucky the right wing vote was split. The perfect example is Jacob Rees-Mogg. Would have won if it wasn't for the Reform party. Hahaha I was against UKIP, The Brexit Party, Reform, etc, at first. But after years of the left-leaning vote being split between Labour and the Lib Dems, allowing the Conservatives to get in, it's nice to see the bastard vote split. |
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Labour V Conservative , by Pete the Post on Jul 5, 2024 12:42:39 GMT 1, I grew up on a council estate in a mixed race family chased from pillar to post by ignorant far right bigots. And it wasn't "immigrants" glassing each other every Saturday night. Sorry your little Englander bubble got burst but to attribute violence to immigrants perpetuates the very worse of racist Britain, who do you think stitches the British up everyday of the week at the local A&E ? What are you going on about? Iโm talking about something that actually happened to me by someone highly undesirable who should have never been allowed in this country, clearly that is not how I feel about 99% of immigrants. Iโm also an immigrant, my parents are immigrants, my wife is an immigrant, my son is an immigrant! And Iโve lived in 6 countries, Iโm not that hypocritical! Also lived on an Estate until I was 16 and yeah surround by white trash and fully aware there are plenty of highly undesirable natives who far out number dangerous illegal immigrants. Youโre clearly pre programmed though, I shouldnโt have to qualify absolutely everything I say because youโre too bitter to understand there may be a wider context. I just donโt think it should be controversial to want to stop illegal immigration and support positive immigration by attracting the best talent or decent hard working people. The last people Iโd want running the country are populist clowns like Farage but that doesnโt mean I disagree with everything the right stands for in principle.
Sadly the tories trashed that system in their desperation to "blame others". Bad policy led to your incident, even more so than a bad person.
I grew up on a council estate in a mixed race family chased from pillar to post by ignorant far right bigots. And it wasn't "immigrants" glassing each other every Saturday night. Sorry your little Englander bubble got burst but to attribute violence to immigrants perpetuates the very worse of racist Britain, who do you think stitches the British up everyday of the week at the local A&E ? What are you going on about? Iโm talking about something that actually happened to me by someone highly undesirable who should have never been allowed in this country, clearly that is not how I feel about 99% of immigrants. Iโm also an immigrant, my parents are immigrants, my wife is an immigrant, my son is an immigrant! And Iโve lived in 6 countries, Iโm not that hypocritical! Also lived on an Estate until I was 16 and yeah surround by white trash and fully aware there are plenty of highly undesirable natives who far out number dangerous illegal immigrants. Youโre clearly pre programmed though, I shouldnโt have to qualify absolutely everything I say because youโre too bitter to understand there may be a wider context. I just donโt think it should be controversial to want to stop illegal immigration and support positive immigration by attracting the best talent or decent hard working people. The last people Iโd want running the country are populist clowns like Farage but that doesnโt mean I disagree with everything the right stands for in principle. If only we had a functioning asylum system in this country, they would have been vetted in good time and removed. Sadly the tories trashed that system in their desperation to "blame others". Bad policy led to your incident, even more so than a bad person. |
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Labour V Conservative , by Happy Shopper on Jul 5, 2024 12:47:45 GMT 1, We were just lucky the right wing vote was split. The perfect example is Jacob Rees-Mogg. Would have won if it wasn't for the Reform party. Hahaha I was against UKIP, The Brexit Party, Reform, etc, at first. But after years of the left-leaning vote being split between Labour and the Lib Dems, allowing the Conservatives to get in, it's nice to see the bastard vote split.
Perfect karma to see those Conservatives lose their jobs because of the monster they created in their own party (and whipping up fears about immigration in the country). It came back to bite them in the arse! 
We were just lucky the right wing vote was split. The perfect example is Jacob Rees-Mogg. Would have won if it wasn't for the Reform party. Hahaha I was against UKIP, The Brexit Party, Reform, etc, at first. But after years of the left-leaning vote being split between Labour and the Lib Dems, allowing the Conservatives to get in, it's nice to see the bastard vote split. Perfect karma to see those Conservatives lose their jobs because of the monster they created in their own party (and whipping up fears about immigration in the country). It came back to bite them in the arse! |
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Onket
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Labour V Conservative , by Onket on Jul 5, 2024 12:51:36 GMT 1, If only we had a functioning asylum system in this country, they would have been vetted in good time and removed. Sadly the tories trashed that system in their desperation to "blame others". Bad policy led to your incident, even more so than a bad person.
If only we had a functioning asylum system in this country, they would have been vetted in good time and removed. Sadly the tories trashed that system in their desperation to "blame others". Bad policy led to your incident, even more so than a bad person. This is the 'migrant crisis'. |
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Django
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Labour V Conservative , by Django on Jul 5, 2024 13:05:05 GMT 1,
Are you saying now that there is a difference between when you're born in UK and slap someone in the face and when you're a migrant in UK and slap someone in the face? And you only want to attract the best talent? Tsk tsk.
Loui jog on pal, youโre an irritant who knows fuck all about fuck all. As I said I also immigrated here so why donโt I slap you in the face, then you slap yourself in the face (assuming youโre born here) and you tell me which hurts more. And FYI I didnt get slapped in the face I got my face cut open with a 10 inch carving knife along with 4 other people who got stabbed the same night by same person. Guy was a known terrorist here illegally, maybe wait until something like that happens to you before calling for open borders.
Are you saying now that there is a difference between when you're born in UK and slap someone in the face and when you're a migrant in UK and slap someone in the face? And you only want to attract the best talent? Tsk tsk.
Loui jog on pal, youโre an irritant who knows fuck all about fuck all. As I said I also immigrated here so why donโt I slap you in the face, then you slap yourself in the face (assuming youโre born here) and you tell me which hurts more. And FYI I didnt get slapped in the face I got my face cut open with a 10 inch carving knife along with 4 other people who got stabbed the same night by same person. Guy was a known terrorist here illegally, maybe wait until something like that happens to you before calling for open borders. |
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Reader
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June 2016
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Labour V Conservative , by Reader on Jul 5, 2024 13:05:50 GMT 1, What are you going on about? Iโm talking about something that actually happened to me by someone highly undesirable who should have never been allowed in this country, clearly that is not how I feel about 99% of immigrants. Iโm also an immigrant, my parents are immigrants, my wife is an immigrant, my son is an immigrant! And Iโve lived in 6 countries, Iโm not that hypocritical! Also lived on an Estate until I was 16 and yeah surround by white trash and fully aware there are plenty of highly undesirable natives who far out number dangerous illegal immigrants. Youโre clearly pre programmed though, I shouldnโt have to qualify absolutely everything I say because youโre too bitter to understand there may be a wider context. I just donโt think it should be controversial to want to stop illegal immigration and support positive immigration by attracting the best talent or decent hard working people. The last people Iโd want running the country are populist clowns like Farage but that doesnโt mean I disagree with everything the right stands for in principle. If only we had a functioning asylum system in this country, they would have been vetted in good time and removed. Sadly the tories trashed that system in their desperation to "blame others". Bad policy led to your incident, even more so than a bad person.
What are you going on about? Iโm talking about something that actually happened to me by someone highly undesirable who should have never been allowed in this country, clearly that is not how I feel about 99% of immigrants. Iโm also an immigrant, my parents are immigrants, my wife is an immigrant, my son is an immigrant! And Iโve lived in 6 countries, Iโm not that hypocritical! Also lived on an Estate until I was 16 and yeah surround by white trash and fully aware there are plenty of highly undesirable natives who far out number dangerous illegal immigrants. Youโre clearly pre programmed though, I shouldnโt have to qualify absolutely everything I say because youโre too bitter to understand there may be a wider context. I just donโt think it should be controversial to want to stop illegal immigration and support positive immigration by attracting the best talent or decent hard working people. The last people Iโd want running the country are populist clowns like Farage but that doesnโt mean I disagree with everything the right stands for in principle. If only we had a functioning asylum system in this country, they would have been vetted in good time and removed. Sadly the tories trashed that system in their desperation to "blame others". Bad policy led to your incident, even more so than a bad person. Exactly this. It's pretty plain to see that the decimated support for those managing the asylum system and other support networks related to immigration are working exactly as they're designed to. That is to stoke dissent amongst the working poor and the middle class and shift culture to the Right. The problem for the Tories, was that they pushed it too far and allowed Reform to benefit from a broken system they thought they'd benefit from themselves. |
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Labour V Conservative , by Pete the Post on Jul 5, 2024 13:16:04 GMT 1, If only we had a functioning asylum system in this country, they would have been vetted in good time and removed. Sadly the tories trashed that system in their desperation to "blame others". Bad policy led to your incident, even more so than a bad person. Exactly this. It's pretty plain to see that the decimated support for those managing the asylum system and other support networks related to immigration are working exactly as they're designed to. That is to stoke dissent amongst the working poor and the middle class and shift culture to the Right. The problem for the Tories, was that they pushed it too far and allowed Reform to benefit from a broken system they thought they'd benefit from themselves.
If only we had a functioning asylum system in this country, they would have been vetted in good time and removed. Sadly the tories trashed that system in their desperation to "blame others". Bad policy led to your incident, even more so than a bad person. Exactly this. It's pretty plain to see that the decimated support for those managing the asylum system and other support networks related to immigration are working exactly as they're designed to. That is to stoke dissent amongst the working poor and the middle class and shift culture to the Right. The problem for the Tories, was that they pushed it too far and allowed Reform to benefit from a broken system they thought they'd benefit from themselves. Funny thing is, it was so obvious for so long that it was going to backfire. Even Bojo the clown worked out he had to do a deal. This lot dug their heels in out of ego and obstinacy and thank F they did lol. |
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Labour V Conservative , by its all about me on Jul 5, 2024 13:27:05 GMT 1, It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem.
It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. How are the wealthiest families draining the wealth? They don't use the NHS, the certainly don't live in "affordable housing". They often run small businesses which give employment to many other people; who in turn pay their own income tax, and help to keep the unemployment figures down. It's a win, win situation. Everyone benefits, including the government. |
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Labour V Conservative , by Happy Shopper on Jul 5, 2024 14:37:41 GMT 1, It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. How are the wealthiest families draining the wealth? They don't use the NHS, the certainly don't live in "affordable housing". They often run small businesses which give employment to many other people; who in turn pay their own income tax, and help to keep the unemployment figures down. It's a win, win situation. Everyone benefits, including the government.
Because theyโre not paying their share of tax and not paying workers enough either.
Plus they over charge for the service or product they create.
Itโs as easy to understand as that.
It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. How are the wealthiest families draining the wealth? They don't use the NHS, the certainly don't live in "affordable housing". They often run small businesses which give employment to many other people; who in turn pay their own income tax, and help to keep the unemployment figures down. It's a win, win situation. Everyone benefits, including the government. Because theyโre not paying their share of tax and not paying workers enough either. Plus they over charge for the service or product they create. Itโs as easy to understand as that. |
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Labour V Conservative , by Pete the Post on Jul 5, 2024 14:41:51 GMT 1, It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. How are the wealthiest families draining the wealth? They don't use the NHS, the certainly don't live in "affordable housing". They often run small businesses which give employment to many other people; who in turn pay their own income tax, and help to keep the unemployment figures down. It's a win, win situation. Everyone benefits, including the government.
You have very much confused who the wealthiest families really are.
It's funny to me, how no one sees an issue with the wealthiest families running the country, trying to contribute nothing, and draining the collective wealth (nhs, affordable housing, ...) out of society, but easily points at immigrants as the problem. How are the wealthiest families draining the wealth? They don't use the NHS, the certainly don't live in "affordable housing". They often run small businesses which give employment to many other people; who in turn pay their own income tax, and help to keep the unemployment figures down. It's a win, win situation. Everyone benefits, including the government. Ha ha, they drain the money that would pay for the affordable housing and the NHS (think tory crony contracts etc), they are not blocking appointments and taking the affordable housing (although they do add to the problem by buying up to become landlords). They also DO NOT run small businesses. They own huge swathes of the country, and avoid as much tax as possible via trusts and offshoring incomes. You have very much confused who the wealthiest families really are. |
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