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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Gentle Mental on Feb 14, 2023 16:28:03 GMT 1, Congrats to the true believers! Invaderโs sig is really lovely. Think the past DH floods spooked the flippers!
Congrats to the true believers! Invaderโs sig is really lovely. Think the past DH floods spooked the flippers!
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by its all about me on Feb 14, 2023 16:29:08 GMT 1, Yeah, the print run is lower than expected, I agree. But, then again, it's still an edition size of around 800. That's not exactly a low edition number, is it? Any print run (by any artist) over 4 or 500 and I start to think it's not really a limited edition. I know it is, technically, but it's stretching the definition of limited edition in my opinion, when you reach the 800 ball park figures.
Yeah, the print run is lower than expected, I agree. But, then again, it's still an edition size of around 800. That's not exactly a low edition number, is it? Any print run (by any artist) over 4 or 500 and I start to think it's not really a limited edition. I know it is, technically, but it's stretching the definition of limited edition in my opinion, when you reach the 800 ball park figures.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Deleted on Feb 14, 2023 16:54:10 GMT 1, A lot lower of an edition number than I thought. Congrats to people who picked one up. They are large invader pieces. We will see if he makes anymore this size in the future.
His oti book cover is edition of 500 and his last kit was 300. These numbers are better than I thought.
A lot lower of an edition number than I thought. Congrats to people who picked one up. They are large invader pieces. We will see if he makes anymore this size in the future.
His oti book cover is edition of 500 and his last kit was 300. These numbers are better than I thought.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by The Origin on Feb 14, 2023 17:05:49 GMT 1, These are a lot lower edition sizes than I was expecting.
Happy with Camo I picked up for the wall.
I was put off by these potentially being v large editions but now the numbers are out I regret not getting a couple more as think will they rise in value moving forward.
These are a lot lower edition sizes than I was expecting.
Happy with Camo I picked up for the wall.
I was put off by these potentially being v large editions but now the numbers are out I regret not getting a couple more as think will they rise in value moving forward.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Charlie Bronson on Feb 14, 2023 17:09:17 GMT 1, Edition size is much lower than most expected. Were the Virtues numbers similar? Virtues numbers H9-1 Justice 1005 H9-2 Courage 760 H9-3 Mercy 817 H9-4 Politeness 1549 H9-5 Honesty 728 H9-6 Honour 693 H9-7 Loyalty 1067 H9-8 Control 862
Edition size is much lower than most expected. Were the Virtues numbers similar? Virtues numbers H9-1 Justice 1005 H9-2 Courage 760 H9-3 Mercy 817 H9-4 Politeness 1549 H9-5 Honesty 728 H9-6 Honour 693 H9-7 Loyalty 1067 H9-8 Control 862
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Sixty Bells on Feb 14, 2023 17:18:50 GMT 1, Let's not kid ourselves, the reason the edition numbers are relatively low is because this is a very average piece of art. Its reflective of that. So for those thinking they're about to get rich, it's still a naff 'artwork'. If you can even call a blown up glossy photo that. Cracking size, Iconic invader images (well most of them), hand signed, vibrant colours, medium to low edition size.
Sorry, but the collectors that picked up, won this round
Let's not kid ourselves, the reason the edition numbers are relatively low is because this is a very average piece of art. Its reflective of that. So for those thinking they're about to get rich, it's still a naff 'artwork'. If you can even call a blown up glossy photo that. Cracking size, Iconic invader images (well most of them), hand signed, vibrant colours, medium to low edition size. Sorry, but the collectors that picked up, won this round
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Dino Link on Feb 14, 2023 17:21:18 GMT 1, How do you guys think this will compare to his other previous Rubik screen prints? Probably depends on the image but there seems to be a few clockwork orange and the shining screen prints unsold and they have edition sizes up to 300.
How do you guys think this will compare to his other previous Rubik screen prints? Probably depends on the image but there seems to be a few clockwork orange and the shining screen prints unsold and they have edition sizes up to 300.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by maddoghoek100 on Feb 14, 2023 17:37:39 GMT 1, i dont think they will be comparable, they will likely end up in their own tier (along with any other timed editions he ends up releasing). Unlike other invaders, i presume there will be at least one of each available on ebay at all times for the foreseeable future. Any other screenprint and you might have to wait around quite a while for one to pop up in a publicly available setting.
I think that sense of availability will keep prices reasonable for a long time. The sense that you can get one any time will keep many people from ever getting one. If they really look great that may spike demand but i doubt it.
Full disclosure, bought a camo, and we will enjoy it hanging. From the photos i also dont think it will compare to an aladdin sane or oh alright. Think we have a few months to wait before we find out.
I see that the first listings are already up as pre-orders now, and have to believe they are dreaming at the listing prices. "NOTE: This is a Pre-Order and will be immediately shipped out once received from HENI (around 4 months)."
i dont think they will be comparable, they will likely end up in their own tier (along with any other timed editions he ends up releasing). Unlike other invaders, i presume there will be at least one of each available on ebay at all times for the foreseeable future. Any other screenprint and you might have to wait around quite a while for one to pop up in a publicly available setting.
I think that sense of availability will keep prices reasonable for a long time. The sense that you can get one any time will keep many people from ever getting one. If they really look great that may spike demand but i doubt it.
Full disclosure, bought a camo, and we will enjoy it hanging. From the photos i also dont think it will compare to an aladdin sane or oh alright. Think we have a few months to wait before we find out.
I see that the first listings are already up as pre-orders now, and have to believe they are dreaming at the listing prices. "NOTE: This is a Pre-Order and will be immediately shipped out once received from HENI (around 4 months)."
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stuckeyc on Feb 14, 2023 17:40:10 GMT 1, Let's not kid ourselves, the reason the edition numbers are relatively low is because this is a very average piece of art. Its reflective of that. So for those thinking they're about to get rich, it's still a naff 'artwork'. If you can even call a blown up glossy photo that. Cracking size, Iconic invader images (well most of them), hand signed, vibrant colours, medium to low edition size. Sorry, but the collectors that picked up, won this round Collectors yes. Investors doubtful. I don't see these going for much more than cost (if that) for years. Anybody thinking they are going to see these go the way of classic prints on paper is kidding themselves.
Let's not kid ourselves, the reason the edition numbers are relatively low is because this is a very average piece of art. Its reflective of that. So for those thinking they're about to get rich, it's still a naff 'artwork'. If you can even call a blown up glossy photo that. Cracking size, Iconic invader images (well most of them), hand signed, vibrant colours, medium to low edition size. Sorry, but the collectors that picked up, won this round Collectors yes. Investors doubtful. I don't see these going for much more than cost (if that) for years. Anybody thinking they are going to see these go the way of classic prints on paper is kidding themselves.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by iamzero on Feb 14, 2023 17:43:55 GMT 1, Anyone else that saw these in person think the print clarity wasnโt sharp enough? Disappointing I thought but maybe I just need bifocals now Iโm getting older. It's all those blows to the head as a young boxer, Zero It would be fair to say I wasnโt good enough to dodge as many punches as Iโd have liked to.
Anyone else that saw these in person think the print clarity wasnโt sharp enough? Disappointing I thought but maybe I just need bifocals now Iโm getting older. It's all those blows to the head as a young boxer, Zero It would be fair to say I wasnโt good enough to dodge as many punches as Iโd have liked to.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Dino Link on Feb 14, 2023 17:47:30 GMT 1, These edition sizes were a lot lower than expected but I wouldnโt say the edition size is โlowโ relative to his other works. Most invader editions are 100 or lower. I do think as he is gaining popularity the edition sizes will continue to increase.
These edition sizes were a lot lower than expected but I wouldnโt say the edition size is โlowโ relative to his other works. Most invader editions are 100 or lower. I do think as he is gaining popularity the edition sizes will continue to increase.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by storch on Feb 14, 2023 18:13:45 GMT 1, Edition size is immensely high comparable to the price paid.
800 Edition for 3k vs. e.g. Alert print with a run of 60 of each type at 6.5-8k. If I'm not stupid, low edition prints are currently highly undervalued.
Edition size is immensely high comparable to the price paid.
800 Edition for 3k vs. e.g. Alert print with a run of 60 of each type at 6.5-8k. If I'm not stupid, low edition prints are currently highly undervalued.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stendhal on Feb 14, 2023 18:14:43 GMT 1, After reading comments here, comments on Heni's post, counting reactions and taking into account the dimensions / weight and price of this edition, here is my guess on size of this edition : * Cube : 600 * Camouflage : 750 * Country Life : 450 * Marilyn : 1300 Next time ask me
After reading comments here, comments on Heni's post, counting reactions and taking into account the dimensions / weight and price of this edition, here is my guess on size of this edition : * Cube : 600 * Camouflage : 750 * Country Life : 450 * Marilyn : 1300 Next time ask me
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stendhal on Feb 14, 2023 18:18:02 GMT 1, These editions, desptite all the criticism including mine, will surely reach very high value as they will be very desirable to new invader collectors, more than little etchings for instance. There will be less soul but more decorative and easy to understand art
These editions, desptite all the criticism including mine, will surely reach very high value as they will be very desirable to new invader collectors, more than little etchings for instance. There will be less soul but more decorative and easy to understand art
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stuckeyc on Feb 14, 2023 18:28:06 GMT 1, After reading comments here, comments on Heni's post, counting reactions and taking into account the dimensions / weight and price of this edition, here is my guess on size of this edition : * Cube : 600 * Camouflage : 750 * Country Life : 450 * Marilyn : 1300 Next time ask me You weren't really that close in anything other than country life. Just sayin
After reading comments here, comments on Heni's post, counting reactions and taking into account the dimensions / weight and price of this edition, here is my guess on size of this edition : * Cube : 600 * Camouflage : 750 * Country Life : 450 * Marilyn : 1300 Next time ask me You weren't really that close in anything other than country life. Just sayin
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by LJCal on Feb 14, 2023 18:32:58 GMT 1, Glad I pulled the trigger on a set, thanks for the haters for slating these. I stand by my comment that anything less than 1k editions and it's a win. They're obviously not his best prints in terms of the printing method but at a 1/4 of the price and 4x the size of many can't see a problem, yes the edition is larger than most but plenty of successful editions of 500-1000 from other artists so not unprecedented. The only risk I see is him doing other more desirable timed edition with Heni.
Glad I pulled the trigger on a set, thanks for the haters for slating these. I stand by my comment that anything less than 1k editions and it's a win. They're obviously not his best prints in terms of the printing method but at a 1/4 of the price and 4x the size of many can't see a problem, yes the edition is larger than most but plenty of successful editions of 500-1000 from other artists so not unprecedented. The only risk I see is him doing other more desirable timed edition with Heni.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by LJCal on Feb 14, 2023 18:38:22 GMT 1, Let's not kid ourselves, the reason the edition numbers are relatively low is because this is a very average piece of art. Its reflective of that. So for those thinking they're about to get rich, it's still a naff 'artwork'. If you can even call a blown up glossy photo that. people have been saying this about Heni for about 6+ years and yet plenty of collectors seem quite willing to pay 2x-10x release price on resale. I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment but it seems that a large chunk of the market do.
Let's not kid ourselves, the reason the edition numbers are relatively low is because this is a very average piece of art. Its reflective of that. So for those thinking they're about to get rich, it's still a naff 'artwork'. If you can even call a blown up glossy photo that. people have been saying this about Heni for about 6+ years and yet plenty of collectors seem quite willing to pay 2x-10x release price on resale. I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment but it seems that a large chunk of the market do.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by surge on Feb 14, 2023 18:46:14 GMT 1, Would guess itโs 800 for the most popular image and 400 for the least popular This was a pretty close guess! Surprised I was so close. I canโt believe so few sold. These will certainly go up in value
Would guess itโs 800 for the most popular image and 400 for the least popular This was a pretty close guess! Surprised I was so close. I canโt believe so few sold. These will certainly go up in value
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by maddoghoek100 on Feb 14, 2023 18:48:09 GMT 1, i dont think it is a 1 to 1 comp and edition size rarely scales linearly with price. These are large, on metal and were purchased by people who wanted them. Heni absolutely was attempting to stretch the price point, but age and image quality matters a lot and i am not sure i would read too much into what the price of this release means for other works on paper. But if you took each base color way and group them together where the alt color ways are equal substitutes (i.e. did not include the gold aladdin). Here are some random examples. im not sure i could plot a good trend
Camo - Edition of 800 - 3k
Alert - Edition of 300 - 8k Versailles - Edition of 200 - 6 - 8k? LED - Edition of 100 - 17K Aladdin Sane - Edition of 260 - 20K?
i dont think it is a 1 to 1 comp and edition size rarely scales linearly with price. These are large, on metal and were purchased by people who wanted them. Heni absolutely was attempting to stretch the price point, but age and image quality matters a lot and i am not sure i would read too much into what the price of this release means for other works on paper. But if you took each base color way and group them together where the alt color ways are equal substitutes (i.e. did not include the gold aladdin). Here are some random examples. im not sure i could plot a good trend
Camo - Edition of 800 - 3k
Alert - Edition of 300 - 8k Versailles - Edition of 200 - 6 - 8k? LED - Edition of 100 - 17K Aladdin Sane - Edition of 260 - 20K?
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Dino Link on Feb 14, 2023 18:52:34 GMT 1, If these prints become the new baseline price for invader, it might just increase the prices of his existing prints, or these might actually sell for below cost, but I doubt the latter. All speculation now, weโll know they they finally come out. I think the edition size was low enough for this to be a good buy.
If these prints become the new baseline price for invader, it might just increase the prices of his existing prints, or these might actually sell for below cost, but I doubt the latter. All speculation now, weโll know they they finally come out. I think the edition size was low enough for this to be a good buy.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by fuqueuing on Feb 14, 2023 19:15:51 GMT 1, Happy the edition sizes are reasonable for those who purchased. Believe the the large sizes of the pieces were the main impediment for Invader fans. His core following are more likely to be city/ apartment livers with walls full of street art inspired pieces. These wouldn't fit.
Happy the edition sizes are reasonable for those who purchased. Believe the the large sizes of the pieces were the main impediment for Invader fans. His core following are more likely to be city/ apartment livers with walls full of street art inspired pieces. These wouldn't fit.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by its all about me on Feb 14, 2023 19:17:10 GMT 1, Glad I pulled the trigger on a set, thanks for the haters for slating these. I stand by my comment that anything less than 1k editions and it's a win. They're obviously not his best prints in terms of the printing method but at a 1/4 of the price and 4x the size of many can't see a problem, yes the edition is larger than most but plenty of successful editions of 500-1000 from other artists so not unprecedented. The only risk I see is him doing other more desirable timed edition with Heni. What you call "the only risk", I call an absolute certainty.
Glad I pulled the trigger on a set, thanks for the haters for slating these. I stand by my comment that anything less than 1k editions and it's a win. They're obviously not his best prints in terms of the printing method but at a 1/4 of the price and 4x the size of many can't see a problem, yes the edition is larger than most but plenty of successful editions of 500-1000 from other artists so not unprecedented. The only risk I see is him doing other more desirable timed edition with Heni. What you call "the only risk", I call an absolute certainty.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by LJCal on Feb 14, 2023 19:51:04 GMT 1, Glad I pulled the trigger on a set, thanks for the haters for slating these. I stand by my comment that anything less than 1k editions and it's a win. They're obviously not his best prints in terms of the printing method but at a 1/4 of the price and 4x the size of many can't see a problem, yes the edition is larger than most but plenty of successful editions of 500-1000 from other artists so not unprecedented. The only risk I see is him doing other more desirable timed edition with Heni. What you call "the only risk", I call an absolute certainty. The sun rising tomorrow is not an absolute certainty, time will tell but I'm not convinced it's even probable.
Glad I pulled the trigger on a set, thanks for the haters for slating these. I stand by my comment that anything less than 1k editions and it's a win. They're obviously not his best prints in terms of the printing method but at a 1/4 of the price and 4x the size of many can't see a problem, yes the edition is larger than most but plenty of successful editions of 500-1000 from other artists so not unprecedented. The only risk I see is him doing other more desirable timed edition with Heni. What you call "the only risk", I call an absolute certainty. The sun rising tomorrow is not an absolute certainty, time will tell but I'm not convinced it's even probable.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by floubi on Feb 14, 2023 20:00:13 GMT 1, What you call "the only risk", I call an absolute certainty. The sun rising tomorrow is not an absolute certainty, time will tell but I'm not convinced it's even probable. Iโm not convinced at all too. The only next release I would imagine with Heni, would be a limited edition. Maybe with better visuals, maybe smaller but surely way more expensive. does anyone on this forum owns the Country Life original artwork ? I guess it was sold by Lazarides, it is the cover of the Low Fidelity exhibition book. It was many years ago, Iโm pretty sure the price of the original during this exhibition was the same as the edition from Heni.
What you call "the only risk", I call an absolute certainty. The sun rising tomorrow is not an absolute certainty, time will tell but I'm not convinced it's even probable. Iโm not convinced at all too. The only next release I would imagine with Heni, would be a limited edition. Maybe with better visuals, maybe smaller but surely way more expensive. does anyone on this forum owns the Country Life original artwork ? I guess it was sold by Lazarides, it is the cover of the Low Fidelity exhibition book. It was many years ago, Iโm pretty sure the price of the original during this exhibition was the same as the edition from Heni.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stendhal on Feb 14, 2023 20:02:47 GMT 1, i dont think it is a 1 to 1 comp and edition size rarely scales linearly with price. These are large, on metal and were purchased by people who wanted them. Heni absolutely was attempting to stretch the price point, but age and image quality matters a lot and i am not sure i would read too much into what the price of this release means for other works on paper. But if you took each base color way and group them together where the alt color ways are equal substitutes (i.e. did not include the gold aladdin). Here are some random examples. im not sure i could plot a good trend Camo - Edition of 800 - 3k Alert - Edition of 300 - 8k Versailles - Edition of 200 - 6 - 8k? LED - Edition of 100 - 17K Aladdin Sane - Edition of 260 - 20K? I guess there might not be this kind of logic. When something new occures in an artist work (big dimensions giclรฉes for invader for instance), it might change the game. On this case we are speaking of more accessible artworks more show off than other editions. They might not adress the same collectors and are very recognizable. I guess that given thรฉ รฉdition size, they quickly, of not already, reach the value of other prints which are small and more desired by purists. I do not think that there will be another รฉdition like this as this one is related to a big exhibition and this kind of thing does not happen very often. Also invader collector basis is increasing.
i dont think it is a 1 to 1 comp and edition size rarely scales linearly with price. These are large, on metal and were purchased by people who wanted them. Heni absolutely was attempting to stretch the price point, but age and image quality matters a lot and i am not sure i would read too much into what the price of this release means for other works on paper. But if you took each base color way and group them together where the alt color ways are equal substitutes (i.e. did not include the gold aladdin). Here are some random examples. im not sure i could plot a good trend Camo - Edition of 800 - 3k Alert - Edition of 300 - 8k Versailles - Edition of 200 - 6 - 8k? LED - Edition of 100 - 17K Aladdin Sane - Edition of 260 - 20K? I guess there might not be this kind of logic. When something new occures in an artist work (big dimensions giclรฉes for invader for instance), it might change the game. On this case we are speaking of more accessible artworks more show off than other editions. They might not adress the same collectors and are very recognizable. I guess that given thรฉ รฉdition size, they quickly, of not already, reach the value of other prints which are small and more desired by purists. I do not think that there will be another รฉdition like this as this one is related to a big exhibition and this kind of thing does not happen very often. Also invader collector basis is increasing.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Manty on Feb 14, 2023 20:24:35 GMT 1, Just hang it on the wall and enjoy it for a few years until something else comes along that needs the space. Then worry about it
Just hang it on the wall and enjoy it for a few years until something else comes along that needs the space. Then worry about it
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by state on Feb 14, 2023 20:29:14 GMT 1, Wow I was off with my prediction. I guess collectors really didnโt like these.. canโt imagine how disappointed Heni is
Wow I was off with my prediction. I guess collectors really didnโt like these.. canโt imagine how disappointed Heni is
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Deleted on Feb 14, 2023 20:41:37 GMT 1, Wow I was off with my prediction. I guess collectors really didnโt like these.. canโt imagine how disappointed Heni is
Iโm pretty sure there are other more accurate indicators of collector sentiment.
Finger in the wind, Iโd say collectors are pretty happy right now.
Wow I was off with my prediction. I guess collectors really didnโt like these.. canโt imagine how disappointed Heni is Iโm pretty sure there are other more accurate indicators of collector sentiment. Finger in the wind, Iโd say collectors are pretty happy right now.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Londown 01 on Feb 14, 2023 22:08:56 GMT 1, The sun rising tomorrow is not an absolute certainty, time will tell but I'm not convinced it's even probable. Some David Hume, who would have thought! I'm pleasantly surprised.
The sun rising tomorrow is not an absolute certainty, time will tell but I'm not convinced it's even probable. Some David Hume, who would have thought! I'm pleasantly surprised.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by โ( อกโโฏอส อกโ)โ EnS on Feb 14, 2023 22:15:28 GMT 1, still $7.5M in sales... not bad.
I wonder how people will show the hidden signed sticker behind the huge metal print...
still $7.5M in sales... not bad.
I wonder how people will show the hidden signed sticker behind the huge metal print...
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