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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by robo on Aug 10, 2023 14:39:16 GMT 1, any forecast on edition size? I guess in the 500 for the h13 1-2-3-4 and much less for others
any forecast on edition size? I guess in the 500 for the h13 1-2-3-4 and much less for others These open editions always sell >1,000 each and I don’t think this will be different, despite the views of the minority audience here (including me). The release has been promoted heavily at a highly visible London show alongside $100k+ works and to the audience for those works, they’ve spent a fortune on targeted social media ads (its all over my socials at least), and the Philips audience (plus many galleries) will not hesitate to buy multiple complete sets. |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Wanchope on Aug 10, 2023 14:51:16 GMT 1, Completely agree with all of that. I think sometimes uaa members think it’s just us and our opinions, but you are spot on we are only a tiny slice of the art world and there will sadly still be a lot of sales for this release and the next, and the next and the next …….
Completely agree with all of that. I think sometimes uaa members think it’s just us and our opinions, but you are spot on we are only a tiny slice of the art world and there will sadly still be a lot of sales for this release and the next, and the next and the next …….
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Poster Bob on Aug 10, 2023 15:05:32 GMT 1, any forecast on edition size? I guess in the 500 for the h13 1-2-3-4 and much less for others These open editions always sell >1,000 each and I don’t think this will be different, despite the views of the minority audience here (including me). The release has been promoted heavily at a highly visible London show alongside $100k+ works and to the audience for those works, they’ve spent a fortune on targeted social media ads (its all over my socials at least), and the Philips audience (plus many galleries) will not hesitate to buy multiple complete sets.
The market is in horrific shape. Anyone who is well versed in it would be very weary of such a large outlay on poor images. I've said it in relation to other releases, but I think that HENI and Hirst will be humbled by the sales figures. I await them with baited breath and hope that they will drive them away from shiny finishing and towards the creation of a more higher-end product.
any forecast on edition size? I guess in the 500 for the h13 1-2-3-4 and much less for others These open editions always sell >1,000 each and I don’t think this will be different, despite the views of the minority audience here (including me). The release has been promoted heavily at a highly visible London show alongside $100k+ works and to the audience for those works, they’ve spent a fortune on targeted social media ads (its all over my socials at least), and the Philips audience (plus many galleries) will not hesitate to buy multiple complete sets. The market is in horrific shape. Anyone who is well versed in it would be very weary of such a large outlay on poor images. I've said it in relation to other releases, but I think that HENI and Hirst will be humbled by the sales figures. I await them with baited breath and hope that they will drive them away from shiny finishing and towards the creation of a more higher-end product. |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Wanchope on Aug 10, 2023 15:19:51 GMT 1, Lets hope so !
Lets hope so !
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by The Italian One on Aug 10, 2023 15:21:43 GMT 1, These open editions always sell >1,000 each and I don’t think this will be different, despite the views of the minority audience here (including me). The release has been promoted heavily at a highly visible London show alongside $100k+ works and to the audience for those works, they’ve spent a fortune on targeted social media ads (its all over my socials at least), and the Philips audience (plus many galleries) will not hesitate to buy multiple complete sets. The market is in horrific shape. Anyone who is well versed in it would be very weary of such a large outlay on poor images. I've said it in relation to other releases, but I think that HENI and Hirst will be humbled by the sales figures. I await them with baited breath and hope that they will drive them away from shiny finishing and towards the creation of a more higher-end product.
These open editions always sell >1,000 each and I don’t think this will be different, despite the views of the minority audience here (including me). The release has been promoted heavily at a highly visible London show alongside $100k+ works and to the audience for those works, they’ve spent a fortune on targeted social media ads (its all over my socials at least), and the Philips audience (plus many galleries) will not hesitate to buy multiple complete sets. The market is in horrific shape. Anyone who is well versed in it would be very weary of such a large outlay on poor images. I've said it in relation to other releases, but I think that HENI and Hirst will be humbled by the sales figures. I await them with baited breath and hope that they will drive them away from shiny finishing and towards the creation of a more higher-end product. your prediction on edition size? |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Poster Bob on Aug 10, 2023 15:25:53 GMT 1, The market is in horrific shape. Anyone who is well versed in it would be very weary of such a large outlay on poor images. I've said it in relation to other releases, but I think that HENI and Hirst will be humbled by the sales figures. I await them with baited breath and hope that they will drive them away from shiny finishing and towards the creation of a more higher-end product. your prediction on edition size?
Clueless tbh, but I would not be surprised if the majority of them end up being editions of 200-300. Best case scenario for HENI right now would be to sell 50% of the volume from The Virtues and I do not see it happening at all.
The market is in horrific shape. Anyone who is well versed in it would be very weary of such a large outlay on poor images. I've said it in relation to other releases, but I think that HENI and Hirst will be humbled by the sales figures. I await them with baited breath and hope that they will drive them away from shiny finishing and towards the creation of a more higher-end product. your prediction on edition size? Clueless tbh, but I would not be surprised if the majority of them end up being editions of 200-300. Best case scenario for HENI right now would be to sell 50% of the volume from The Virtues and I do not see it happening at all. |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by elthorno84 on Aug 10, 2023 18:57:08 GMT 1, I visited the show and loved the paintings and the depth/texture of them. I also loved what he said on instagram about the photorealistic seascapes which made me appreciate them much more than I did. The dibonds are terrible though. Wouldn’t go anywhere near them
I visited the show and loved the paintings and the depth/texture of them. I also loved what he said on instagram about the photorealistic seascapes which made me appreciate them much more than I did. The dibonds are terrible though. Wouldn’t go anywhere near them
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by stendhal on Aug 11, 2023 8:31:27 GMT 1, At some point, when a guy releases so much editions of poor quality (for a lot of them), low edition numbers is not a guarantee of value for the future. Only question to me is your valuation of intrinsic quality of the works. On these ones, there is very little chance that there will be high numbers : size, price, release in august, lack of enthusiasm…
At some point, when a guy releases so much editions of poor quality (for a lot of them), low edition numbers is not a guarantee of value for the future. Only question to me is your valuation of intrinsic quality of the works. On these ones, there is very little chance that there will be high numbers : size, price, release in august, lack of enthusiasm…
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by cryptoowly on Aug 11, 2023 11:48:09 GMT 1, It's hard to know how big Hirsts market actually is, other than to know it's big. If you sell based on time limited demand then surplus demand is entirely attributable to flippers. You can argue that the current state of the market will remedy or greatly reduce this issue, in which case it just comes down to whether you like the art or not. I think these are quite compelling. Agree it will be interesting to see final numbers.
It's hard to know how big Hirsts market actually is, other than to know it's big. If you sell based on time limited demand then surplus demand is entirely attributable to flippers. You can argue that the current state of the market will remedy or greatly reduce this issue, in which case it just comes down to whether you like the art or not. I think these are quite compelling. Agree it will be interesting to see final numbers.
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Masong on Aug 11, 2023 14:38:24 GMT 1, Looks like he’s been signing a shît load more posters unless it was an old video on Instagram.
Looks like he’s been signing a shît load more posters unless it was an old video on Instagram.
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by its all about me on Aug 11, 2023 17:16:57 GMT 1, Looks like he’s been signing a shît load more posters unless it was an old video on Instagram.
Looks like he’s been signing a shît load more posters unless it was an old video on Instagram. ...but I'm impressed that he can sign them in his sleep. |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Sixty Bells on Aug 11, 2023 17:33:36 GMT 1, I have no idea what Hirst or Heni are doing right now.
It’s a bizarre way to manage an artistic career
I have no idea what Hirst or Heni are doing right now.
It’s a bizarre way to manage an artistic career
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by RoboJ on Aug 11, 2023 18:18:05 GMT 1, I really like blizzard. I’ve been trying to find a seascape for years so may go for it.
I really like blizzard. I’ve been trying to find a seascape for years so may go for it.
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Masong
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Masong on Aug 11, 2023 18:25:22 GMT 1, Looks like he’s been signing a shît load more posters unless it was an old video on Instagram. ...but I'm impressed that he can sign them in his sleep.
An artists signature used to be desirable and a bit special but he’s rapidly making having his a bit of a joke. Ai Weiwei was the same with his last book signing..RSI springs to mind or wànkers wrist whichever suits the artist best..
Looks like he’s been signing a shît load more posters unless it was an old video on Instagram. ...but I'm impressed that he can sign them in his sleep. An artists signature used to be desirable and a bit special but he’s rapidly making having his a bit of a joke. Ai Weiwei was the same with his last book signing..RSI springs to mind or wànkers wrist whichever suits the artist best.. |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by robo on Aug 11, 2023 18:48:28 GMT 1, I really like blizzard. I’ve been trying to find a seascape for years so may go for it.
Dunno, to me that ones a bit messy and you can’t see the sea in it. I prefer the vertical one.
I really like blizzard. I’ve been trying to find a seascape for years so may go for it. Dunno, to me that ones a bit messy and you can’t see the sea in it. I prefer the vertical one. |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by from mjolnir on Aug 11, 2023 19:01:31 GMT 1, Looks like he’s been signing a shît load more posters unless it was an old video on Instagram.
Looks like he’s been signing a shît load more posters unless it was an old video on Instagram. Heni hinted to me on insta that they were releasing more posters, so I think it's a new batch ... |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by its all about me on Aug 11, 2023 19:22:29 GMT 1, You know, I am beginning to feel quite sorry for Damien Hirst. The capitalist scum at Heni are now forcing him to sign posters 24-hours a day squeezing every last cent they can out of him before they put him out with the trash. They don't even allow him to wear clothes anymore. (I would post the actual video but I don't know how)
You know, I am beginning to feel quite sorry for Damien Hirst. The capitalist scum at Heni are now forcing him to sign posters 24-hours a day squeezing every last cent they can out of him before they put him out with the trash. They don't even allow him to wear clothes anymore. (I would post the actual video but I don't know how) |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Acme Thunderer on Aug 11, 2023 19:25:10 GMT 1, You know, I am beginning to feel quite sorry for Damien Hirst. The capitalist scum at Heni are now forcing him to sign posters 24-hours a day squeezing every last cent they can out of him before they put him out with the trash. They don't even allow him to wear clothes anymore. (I would post the actual video but I don't know how)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvzejXDIAk7
You know, I am beginning to feel quite sorry for Damien Hirst. The capitalist scum at Heni are now forcing him to sign posters 24-hours a day squeezing every last cent they can out of him before they put him out with the trash. They don't even allow him to wear clothes anymore. (I would post the actual video but I don't know how) NSFW 🤣 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvzejXDIAk7 |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by kai22 on Aug 11, 2023 20:01:09 GMT 1, You know, I am beginning to feel quite sorry for Damien Hirst. The capitalist scum at Heni are now forcing him to sign posters 24-hours a day squeezing every last cent they can out of him before they put him out with the trash. They don't even allow him to wear clothes anymore. (I would post the actual video but I don't know how)
You know, I am beginning to feel quite sorry for Damien Hirst. The capitalist scum at Heni are now forcing him to sign posters 24-hours a day squeezing every last cent they can out of him before they put him out with the trash. They don't even allow him to wear clothes anymore. (I would post the actual video but I don't know how) My understanding is that Hirst is a major stakeholder / co-owner of Heni. I interpreted this IG post as his equivalency to Banksy’s “Morons”… |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Georgie Poppit on Aug 11, 2023 21:05:29 GMT 1, You could just stop buying this kind of rubbish. I guarantee most of those posters ended up with forum members.
You could just stop buying this kind of rubbish. I guarantee most of those posters ended up with forum members.
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Masong on Aug 12, 2023 9:24:23 GMT 1, Posters are available again at Berkeley square..
Posters are available again at Berkeley square..
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Ruggs on Aug 12, 2023 10:41:28 GMT 1, Any kind soul out there able to pick up a spare poster for me please let me know.
Any kind soul out there able to pick up a spare poster for me please let me know.
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Alberto Collecto on Aug 12, 2023 11:06:08 GMT 1, Posters are available again at Berkeley square..
Posters are available again at Berkeley square.. Are all 3 available? |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by its all about me on Aug 12, 2023 11:20:56 GMT 1, You know, I am beginning to feel quite sorry for Damien Hirst. The capitalist scum at Heni are now forcing him to sign posters 24-hours a day squeezing every last cent they can out of him before they put him out with the trash. They don't even allow him to wear clothes anymore. (I would post the actual video but I don't know how) NSFW 🤣 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvzejXDIAk7
You know, I am beginning to feel quite sorry for Damien Hirst. The capitalist scum at Heni are now forcing him to sign posters 24-hours a day squeezing every last cent they can out of him before they put him out with the trash. They don't even allow him to wear clothes anymore. (I would post the actual video but I don't know how) NSFW 🤣 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvzejXDIAk7 Thanks Acme. They're so cruel. I wonder who their next slave will turn out to be? Invader perhaps? |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Smokeidaeye on Aug 12, 2023 17:48:24 GMT 1, I may buy a poster off of eBay if the mass quantities drive prices down some. It'd be nice in a guest bedroom and at least he signed it on the front instead of a sticker on the back that'll age and peel off over time.
I may buy a poster off of eBay if the mass quantities drive prices down some. It'd be nice in a guest bedroom and at least he signed it on the front instead of a sticker on the back that'll age and peel off over time.
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by The Greased Piglet on Aug 12, 2023 20:29:49 GMT 1, I have no idea what Hirst or Heni are doing right now. It’s a bizarre way to manage an artistic career
I have no idea what Hirst or Heni are doing right now. It’s a bizarre way to manage an artistic career Making fucking boat loads of money. they’ve sold hundreds of millions of dollars worth of a kit of his in the last few years and they’re just one of his galleries. Hirst is a billionaire no doubt. There is literally no one better at making money from art, not necessarily best for his collectors but he’s long past needing to care about that. |
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by The Greased Piglet on Aug 12, 2023 20:36:11 GMT 1, What is cool and weird about Hirsts market is that literally someone on minimum wage could save up and buy a Hirst edition right up to a Billionaire buying a canvas. I can’t think of any artist who can do that and could put out so much stock and still be able to keep selling it. It defies logic, whether he’s able to keep up the alchemy remains to be seen.
What is cool and weird about Hirsts market is that literally someone on minimum wage could save up and buy a Hirst edition right up to a Billionaire buying a canvas. I can’t think of any artist who can do that and could put out so much stock and still be able to keep selling it. It defies logic, whether he’s able to keep up the alchemy remains to be seen.
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by cryptoowly on Aug 12, 2023 20:46:46 GMT 1, That's the alchemy right there. You know he's big, controversial, loved, hated. He ticks the box. The artistic persona box. Bigger the better.
Mostly, he's aspirational. To everyone. It keeps the wheels going. Why segment your target audience. Broader the appeal the better. As you say.
What's interesting is his reach might be broadening. He's becoming less niche and conceptual and perhaps more mass market. Cherry blossoms. Waves. But then there is the currency. NFTs.
The subject matter is broad. The target market is broad and his brand is broad. Win win win.
That's the alchemy right there. You know he's big, controversial, loved, hated. He ticks the box. The artistic persona box. Bigger the better.
Mostly, he's aspirational. To everyone. It keeps the wheels going. Why segment your target audience. Broader the appeal the better. As you say.
What's interesting is his reach might be broadening. He's becoming less niche and conceptual and perhaps more mass market. Cherry blossoms. Waves. But then there is the currency. NFTs.
The subject matter is broad. The target market is broad and his brand is broad. Win win win.
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by robo on Aug 12, 2023 20:54:21 GMT 1, It’s become a fairly standard practice for artists to sell at all possible price points. I think one of the first proponents was Takashi Murakami who famously sold everything from paintings and sculptures to prints to key rings and pencil cases.
It’s become a fairly standard practice for artists to sell at all possible price points. I think one of the first proponents was Takashi Murakami who famously sold everything from paintings and sculptures to prints to key rings and pencil cases.
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Damien Hirst H13 • Where the Land Meets the Sea, by ferehyet on Aug 12, 2023 21:55:31 GMT 1, Posters are available again if people are wondering, I saw only a few left apparently, not sure which versions as I didn’t ask.
Posters are available again if people are wondering, I saw only a few left apparently, not sure which versions as I didn’t ask.
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