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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by cryptoowly on Jan 28, 2024 15:19:27 GMT 1, Not sure they did at the time and looking at the posts in here from that release. Only difference being (1) passage of time and (2) they were successful - defined as secondary mkt sales price.
Not sure they did at the time and looking at the posts in here from that release. Only difference being (1) passage of time and (2) they were successful - defined as secondary mkt sales price.
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by nobokov on Jan 28, 2024 16:45:58 GMT 1, They'll keep making timed edition dibonds if y'all keep buying them. Aren't these timed editions for "true fans" who don't care about monetary value?
They'll keep making timed edition dibonds if y'all keep buying them. Aren't these timed editions for "true fans" who don't care about monetary value?
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by drip on Jan 28, 2024 16:48:31 GMT 1, Dibonds sounds like a cryptocurrency based on the Princess of Wales.
Dibonds sounds like a cryptocurrency based on the Princess of Wales.
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Invader1887 on Jan 28, 2024 17:23:10 GMT 1, I haven’t seen any Invader Heni releases offered below cost yet. Most are either not selling due to a reserve or above cost. As to prints prices have taken hard hits too. People are selling for below £2.5k (as below) and those sold at other auction houses are not recouping their cost after seller fees. If they were printed on paper, they would not perform as bad. Sold for under £2.5k  Currently available for under £2.5k 
I haven’t seen any Invader Heni releases offered below cost yet. Most are either not selling due to a reserve or above cost. As to prints prices have taken hard hits too. People are selling for below £2.5k (as below) and those sold at other auction houses are not recouping their cost after seller fees. If they were printed on paper, they would not perform as bad. Sold for under £2.5k Currently available for under £2.5k Well, his latest print on paper didn’t sell out…..Don’t get me wrong I prefer paper too. In my view the main problem with the Heni release was the motive. Had they released the Camos with Heni I am pretty sure we would have seen a far better performance. |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by maven on Jan 28, 2024 19:54:49 GMT 1, The Cherry Blossoms did well, so I don't see why these won't do well, other than that the art market is having a bumpy ride.
The Cherry Blossoms did well, so I don't see why these won't do well, other than that the art market is having a bumpy ride.
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Acme Thunderer on Jan 29, 2024 21:28:54 GMT 1, People are selling for below £2.5k (as below) and those sold at other auction houses are not recouping their cost after seller fees. If they were printed on paper, they would not perform as bad. Sold for under £2.5k Currently available for under £2.5k Well, his latest print on paper didn’t sell out…..Don’t get me wrong I prefer paper too. In my view the main problem with the Heni release was the motive. Had they released the Camos with Heni I am pretty sure we would have seen a far better performance.
People are selling for below £2.5k (as below) and those sold at other auction houses are not recouping their cost after seller fees. If they were printed on paper, they would not perform as bad. Sold for under £2.5k Currently available for under £2.5k Well, his latest print on paper didn’t sell out…..Don’t get me wrong I prefer paper too. In my view the main problem with the Heni release was the motive. Had they released the Camos with Heni I am pretty sure we would have seen a far better performance. This Camoflague is getting even cheaper. The issue with Heni releases is that they just scan an image and is not a colour separated screenprint. There was no excuse why this couldn’t have been a 5 colour screenprint. |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Art lover lover on Jan 29, 2024 23:46:55 GMT 1, Well, his latest print on paper didn’t sell out…..Don’t get me wrong I prefer paper too. In my view the main problem with the Heni release was the motive. Had they released the Camos with Heni I am pretty sure we would have seen a far better performance. This Camoflague is getting even cheaper. The issue with Heni releases is that they just scan an image and is not a colour separated screenprint. There was no excuse why this couldn’t have been a 5 colour screenprint.
I have the MM and absolutely love it. It’s worth every penny in my book. I’ll leave the speculation of value to others.
Well, his latest print on paper didn’t sell out…..Don’t get me wrong I prefer paper too. In my view the main problem with the Heni release was the motive. Had they released the Camos with Heni I am pretty sure we would have seen a far better performance. This Camoflague is getting even cheaper. The issue with Heni releases is that they just scan an image and is not a colour separated screenprint. There was no excuse why this couldn’t have been a 5 colour screenprint. I have the MM and absolutely love it. It’s worth every penny in my book. I’ll leave the speculation of value to others. |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by stendhal on Jan 31, 2024 11:35:22 GMT 1, Well, his latest print on paper didn’t sell out…..Don’t get me wrong I prefer paper too. In my view the main problem with the Heni release was the motive. Had they released the Camos with Heni I am pretty sure we would have seen a far better performance. This Camoflague is getting even cheaper. The issue with Heni releases is that they just scan an image and is not a colour separated screenprint. There was no excuse why this couldn’t have been a 5 colour screenprint.
Well, his latest print on paper didn’t sell out…..Don’t get me wrong I prefer paper too. In my view the main problem with the Heni release was the motive. Had they released the Camos with Heni I am pretty sure we would have seen a far better performance. This Camoflague is getting even cheaper. The issue with Heni releases is that they just scan an image and is not a colour separated screenprint. There was no excuse why this couldn’t have been a 5 colour screenprint. I just checked on ebay and every websites where these things are sold. Cheapest are arround 5k, mostly ranging from 5k to 10k. Of course, it does not mean that they sell at this price. But, there is no way these particular ads (above) are not scams, probably cancelled quickly after you saw them. I would say that between 3k and 4k, as of today, they sell very quickly if you are in Paris or major European city except London (20% import duty...). |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by stendhal on Jan 31, 2024 11:36:32 GMT 1, This Camoflague is getting even cheaper. The issue with Heni releases is that they just scan an image and is not a colour separated screenprint. There was no excuse why this couldn’t have been a 5 colour screenprint. I have the MM and absolutely love it. It’s worth every penny in my book. I’ll leave the speculation of value to others.
This Camoflague is getting even cheaper. The issue with Heni releases is that they just scan an image and is not a colour separated screenprint. There was no excuse why this couldn’t have been a 5 colour screenprint. I have the MM and absolutely love it. It’s worth every penny in my book. I’ll leave the speculation of value to others. I do agree with that. My Country Life is just a delight |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Acme Thunderer on Jan 31, 2024 11:48:24 GMT 1, This Camoflague is getting even cheaper. The issue with Heni releases is that they just scan an image and is not a colour separated screenprint. There was no excuse why this couldn’t have been a 5 colour screenprint. I just checked on ebay and every websites where these things are sold. Cheapest are arround 5k, mostly ranging from 5k to 10k. Of course, it does not mean that they sell at this price. But, there is no way these particular ads (above) are not scams, probably cancelled quickly after you saw them. I would say that between 3k and 4k, as of today, they sell very quickly if you are in Paris or major European city except London (20% import duty...).
These are all genuine sales (not cancelled or relisted) and the one at £2,200 is also genuine. Other sales on eBay are ‘best offer accepted’ so we don’t know the final sale price, but significantly lower than your valuation.
Just because you own one, please don’t try and dispute genuine sales as I don’t make things up and why I share evidence - just enjoy it as I’m sure it will go up again in the future if you ever decide to sell.
This Camoflague is getting even cheaper. The issue with Heni releases is that they just scan an image and is not a colour separated screenprint. There was no excuse why this couldn’t have been a 5 colour screenprint. I just checked on ebay and every websites where these things are sold. Cheapest are arround 5k, mostly ranging from 5k to 10k. Of course, it does not mean that they sell at this price. But, there is no way these particular ads (above) are not scams, probably cancelled quickly after you saw them. I would say that between 3k and 4k, as of today, they sell very quickly if you are in Paris or major European city except London (20% import duty...). It appears that I am better at finding lower prices in the UK. 😉 These are all genuine sales (not cancelled or relisted) and the one at £2,200 is also genuine. Other sales on eBay are ‘best offer accepted’ so we don’t know the final sale price, but significantly lower than your valuation. Just because you own one, please don’t try and dispute genuine sales as I don’t make things up and why I share evidence - just enjoy it as I’m sure it will go up again in the future if you ever decide to sell. |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by stendhal on Jan 31, 2024 15:13:40 GMT 1, I just checked on ebay and every websites where these things are sold. Cheapest are arround 5k, mostly ranging from 5k to 10k. Of course, it does not mean that they sell at this price. But, there is no way these particular ads (above) are not scams, probably cancelled quickly after you saw them. I would say that between 3k and 4k, as of today, they sell very quickly if you are in Paris or major European city except London (20% import duty...). It appears that I am better at finding lower prices in the UK. 😉 These are all genuine sales (not cancelled or relisted) and the one at £2,200 is also genuine. Other sales on eBay are ‘best offer accepted’ so we don’t know the final sale price, but significantly lower than your valuation. Just because you own one, please don’t try and dispute genuine sales as I don’t make things up and why I share evidence - just enjoy it as I’m sure it will go up again in the future if you ever decide to sell.
Edit : I would be very interested by the link of this offer if it is public. If you can send it to me. At 2k, if I convince the seller to ship abroad, honestly that's a bargain
I just checked on ebay and every websites where these things are sold. Cheapest are arround 5k, mostly ranging from 5k to 10k. Of course, it does not mean that they sell at this price. But, there is no way these particular ads (above) are not scams, probably cancelled quickly after you saw them. I would say that between 3k and 4k, as of today, they sell very quickly if you are in Paris or major European city except London (20% import duty...). It appears that I am better at finding lower prices in the UK. 😉 These are all genuine sales (not cancelled or relisted) and the one at £2,200 is also genuine. Other sales on eBay are ‘best offer accepted’ so we don’t know the final sale price, but significantly lower than your valuation. Just because you own one, please don’t try and dispute genuine sales as I don’t make things up and why I share evidence - just enjoy it as I’m sure it will go up again in the future if you ever decide to sell. I follow almost every sale of these and many other things because it is a kind of obsession even though I sell myself not so often... I have seen quiet a few of these selling over the last months from arround retail price to 5k. Average price at 4 - 4.5k (excl shipping and duty wich adds arround 1k!). So your post was very surprising for me and I tried to understand why it is so far from my obervation. As there are a lot of scams for Invader works, it was my first hypothesis. I tried to find them again and believe me they are not available for French buyers. So I went specificaly on Ebay.uk and there are some arround 4k (which might be the ones you show if they make some price drops) but these sellers seem not to ship to France. Not very clever from them. But anyway, even if they did, that would explain a lot : most buyers are in France and shipping + import duty might add arround 1k if you sell at 3k. Edit : I would be very interested by the link of this offer if it is public. If you can send it to me. At 2k, if I convince the seller to ship abroad, honestly that's a bargain |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Acme Thunderer on Jan 31, 2024 15:42:06 GMT 1, It appears that I am better at finding lower prices in the UK. 😉 These are all genuine sales (not cancelled or relisted) and the one at £2,200 is also genuine. Other sales on eBay are ‘best offer accepted’ so we don’t know the final sale price, but significantly lower than your valuation. Just because you own one, please don’t try and dispute genuine sales as I don’t make things up and why I share evidence - just enjoy it as I’m sure it will go up again in the future if you ever decide to sell. I follow almost every sale of these and many other things because it is a kind of obsession even though I sell myself not so often... I have seen quiet a few of these selling over the last months from arround retail price to 5k. Average price at 4 - 4.5k (excl shipping and duty wich adds arround 1k!). So your post was very surprising for me and I tried to understand why it is so far from my obervation. As there are a lot of scams for Invader works, it was my first hypothesis. I tried to find them again and believe me they are not available for French buyers. So I went specificaly on Ebay.uk and there are some arround 4k (which might be the ones you show if they make some price drops) but these sellers seem not to ship to France. Not very clever from them. But anyway, even if they did, that would explain a lot : most buyers are in France and shipping + import duty might add arround 1k if you sell at 3k. Edit : I would be very interested by the link of this offer if it is public. If you can send it to me. At 2k, if I convince the seller to ship abroad, honestly that's a bargain
As these are so heavy a lot of sellers won’t risk selling overseas. At least you now have a better idea of what they are genuinely selling for in the UK (I ignore prices what people would like to sell them for).
I don’t want to continually share prices sold as my only reason for mentioning on this thread was about Heni dibond saturating their market and people preferring prints on paper.
Now let’s hope we are lucky on the new Invader release. 😊
It appears that I am better at finding lower prices in the UK. 😉 These are all genuine sales (not cancelled or relisted) and the one at £2,200 is also genuine. Other sales on eBay are ‘best offer accepted’ so we don’t know the final sale price, but significantly lower than your valuation. Just because you own one, please don’t try and dispute genuine sales as I don’t make things up and why I share evidence - just enjoy it as I’m sure it will go up again in the future if you ever decide to sell. I follow almost every sale of these and many other things because it is a kind of obsession even though I sell myself not so often... I have seen quiet a few of these selling over the last months from arround retail price to 5k. Average price at 4 - 4.5k (excl shipping and duty wich adds arround 1k!). So your post was very surprising for me and I tried to understand why it is so far from my obervation. As there are a lot of scams for Invader works, it was my first hypothesis. I tried to find them again and believe me they are not available for French buyers. So I went specificaly on Ebay.uk and there are some arround 4k (which might be the ones you show if they make some price drops) but these sellers seem not to ship to France. Not very clever from them. But anyway, even if they did, that would explain a lot : most buyers are in France and shipping + import duty might add arround 1k if you sell at 3k. Edit : I would be very interested by the link of this offer if it is public. If you can send it to me. At 2k, if I convince the seller to ship abroad, honestly that's a bargain I clicked the link and the seller has now sold it this morning for £2,200 after reducing it from £2,400. As these are so heavy a lot of sellers won’t risk selling overseas. At least you now have a better idea of what they are genuinely selling for in the UK (I ignore prices what people would like to sell them for). I don’t want to continually share prices sold as my only reason for mentioning on this thread was about Heni dibond saturating their market and people preferring prints on paper. Now let’s hope we are lucky on the new Invader release. 😊 |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Archives Gallery on Jan 31, 2024 16:33:54 GMT 1, Any sellers for Marilyn at/near cost? Looking for a client and my consignor's timelines aren't lining up with when the buyer needs the piece by.
Any sellers for Marilyn at/near cost? Looking for a client and my consignor's timelines aren't lining up with when the buyer needs the piece by.
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by nobokov on Jan 31, 2024 18:17:07 GMT 1, Is this the Invader thread now, or is it where everyone goes to comment on overpriced laminated open editions?
Is this the Invader thread now, or is it where everyone goes to comment on overpriced laminated open editions?
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Jules Leotard on Jan 31, 2024 18:55:30 GMT 1, Wife wants one.
I'm not a fan of the 'di-bond' era. You know what would be great? Close the sale out, background bit is di-bond and then, once all orders are in, they line each group up in the studio and the splatter is authentic paint on top of the di-bond (but, no one ever listens to me...).
Wife wants one.
I'm not a fan of the 'di-bond' era. You know what would be great? Close the sale out, background bit is di-bond and then, once all orders are in, they line each group up in the studio and the splatter is authentic paint on top of the di-bond (but, no one ever listens to me...).
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by stendhal on Feb 1, 2024 20:45:03 GMT 1, I follow almost every sale of these and many other things because it is a kind of obsession even though I sell myself not so often... I have seen quiet a few of these selling over the last months from arround retail price to 5k. Average price at 4 - 4.5k (excl shipping and duty wich adds arround 1k!). So your post was very surprising for me and I tried to understand why it is so far from my obervation. As there are a lot of scams for Invader works, it was my first hypothesis. I tried to find them again and believe me they are not available for French buyers. So I went specificaly on Ebay.uk and there are some arround 4k (which might be the ones you show if they make some price drops) but these sellers seem not to ship to France. Not very clever from them. But anyway, even if they did, that would explain a lot : most buyers are in France and shipping + import duty might add arround 1k if you sell at 3k. Edit : I would be very interested by the link of this offer if it is public. If you can send it to me. At 2k, if I convince the seller to ship abroad, honestly that's a bargain I clicked the link and the seller has now sold it this morning for £2,200 after reducing it from £2,400. As these are so heavy a lot of sellers won’t risk selling overseas. At least you now have a better idea of what they are genuinely selling for in the UK (I ignore prices what people would like to sell them for). I don’t want to continually share prices sold as my only reason for mentioning on this thread was about Heni dibond saturating their market and people preferring prints on paper. Now let’s hope we are lucky on the new Invader release. 😊
I follow almost every sale of these and many other things because it is a kind of obsession even though I sell myself not so often... I have seen quiet a few of these selling over the last months from arround retail price to 5k. Average price at 4 - 4.5k (excl shipping and duty wich adds arround 1k!). So your post was very surprising for me and I tried to understand why it is so far from my obervation. As there are a lot of scams for Invader works, it was my first hypothesis. I tried to find them again and believe me they are not available for French buyers. So I went specificaly on Ebay.uk and there are some arround 4k (which might be the ones you show if they make some price drops) but these sellers seem not to ship to France. Not very clever from them. But anyway, even if they did, that would explain a lot : most buyers are in France and shipping + import duty might add arround 1k if you sell at 3k. Edit : I would be very interested by the link of this offer if it is public. If you can send it to me. At 2k, if I convince the seller to ship abroad, honestly that's a bargain I clicked the link and the seller has now sold it this morning for £2,200 after reducing it from £2,400. As these are so heavy a lot of sellers won’t risk selling overseas. At least you now have a better idea of what they are genuinely selling for in the UK (I ignore prices what people would like to sell them for). I don’t want to continually share prices sold as my only reason for mentioning on this thread was about Heni dibond saturating their market and people preferring prints on paper. Now let’s hope we are lucky on the new Invader release. 😊 Thanks again for all this! |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Art lover lover on Feb 2, 2024 3:37:16 GMT 1, Has anyone been to see these? Would be great to get some live pics. Thanks.
Has anyone been to see these? Would be great to get some live pics. Thanks.
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by blurp on Feb 2, 2024 4:27:01 GMT 1, Lots in the Heni discord
Has anyone been to see these? Would be great to get some live pics. Thanks.
Lots in the Heni discord Has anyone been to see these? Would be great to get some live pics. Thanks. |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Carl Cashman Art on Feb 2, 2024 8:46:37 GMT 1, Are they doing don't pay vat while it's in Heni storage on these ?
Are they doing don't pay vat while it's in Heni storage on these ?
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by patrese on Feb 2, 2024 13:22:43 GMT 1, Well I've bought one (selflessness). I really like them.
Well I've bought one (selflessness). I really like them.
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by blurp on Feb 2, 2024 15:31:01 GMT 1,
Mirror mirror on the wall.....
Has anyone been to see these? Would be great to get some live pics. Thanks. 
Mirror mirror on the wall..... Has anyone been to see these? Would be great to get some live pics. Thanks. |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by loui on Feb 2, 2024 23:17:55 GMT 1, Nice, though not to keen on the red in these works. Bit too aggressive to my taste.
Nice, though not to keen on the red in these works. Bit too aggressive to my taste. |
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Duke Down Stairs on Feb 3, 2024 9:23:19 GMT 1, Nice enough -- but not $4300 USD (all in) nice enough.
Priced too high for what they are.
Cherry Blossoms were $2000, and superior project.
Nice enough -- but not $4300 USD (all in) nice enough.
Priced too high for what they are.
Cherry Blossoms were $2000, and superior project.
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Georgie Poppit on Feb 3, 2024 10:44:00 GMT 1, I get hay fever just looking at these. Big no from me.
I get hay fever just looking at these. Big no from me.
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Acme Thunderer on Feb 3, 2024 11:29:09 GMT 1, A video of how Heni produce their ‘factory made’ dibond. It really shows the amazing craftsmanship that goes into churning them out.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C24Zmx4ISKy
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by kfroms on Feb 3, 2024 12:05:01 GMT 1, Good to see how money is printed nowadays.
Good to see how money is printed nowadays.
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Ads Army on Feb 3, 2024 12:12:20 GMT 1, If people stop buying this rubbish, maybe Hirst and Heni they will stop producing this garbage !
If people stop buying this rubbish, maybe Hirst and Heni they will stop producing this garbage !
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Damien Hirst, The Secrets H14, by Arty Farty 15 on Feb 3, 2024 12:13:12 GMT 1, God, not sure them showing the process is a selling point. Mass produced in the factory like wrapping paper - but we will charge you £4k
God, not sure them showing the process is a selling point. Mass produced in the factory like wrapping paper - but we will charge you £4k
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