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BRP Prints on Ebay, by f5ers on Aug 24, 2008 10:40:14 GMT 1, Howz come there are so many sold out BRP prints being flipped on Ebay by one seller.. search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZpanambabe
Not to mention APs!!!!
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by dslug on Aug 24, 2008 11:02:10 GMT 1, This has def been discussed before either here or on the dface forum,I dont remember much but I think there was a suggestion that the seller is the girlfriend of a gallery owner or something like that.
This has def been discussed before either here or on the dface forum,I dont remember much but I think there was a suggestion that the seller is the girlfriend of a gallery owner or something like that.
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by alsbabar on Aug 24, 2008 11:06:04 GMT 1, oh another flipper thread - how exciting
are you jealous you didnt think of it first?
oh another flipper thread - how exciting
are you jealous you didnt think of it first?
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by f5ers on Aug 24, 2008 11:09:06 GMT 1, A gallery in rural wales??? I'm sure the farmers and sheep lovers are all over the BRP prints. I think its fucked that these aren't sold through BRP and given to one of BRP's chumps to make a few quid. This is the same seller that put up the COA for sale
A gallery in rural wales??? I'm sure the farmers and sheep lovers are all over the BRP prints. I think its fucked that these aren't sold through BRP and given to one of BRP's chumps to make a few quid. This is the same seller that put up the COA for sale
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by snakes on Aug 24, 2008 11:13:46 GMT 1, They have an inside deal going on with Mike at BRP.
Think they must have sold about 10 Pop Tarts in total - all low numbers too. They also sell C.O.A's that they dont send out with the prints as-well!
They have an inside deal going on with Mike at BRP.
Think they must have sold about 10 Pop Tarts in total - all low numbers too. They also sell C.O.A's that they dont send out with the prints as-well!
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by f5ers on Aug 24, 2008 11:16:28 GMT 1, oh another flipper thread - how exciting are you jealous you didnt think of it first?
Who pissed on your chips this morning?? I just think that it sucks people are forced to get these prints from ebay rather than through BRP shows or their website. Its not like its a few prints.. Its gotta be 5 or 6 prints nearly every week.
oh another flipper thread - how exciting are you jealous you didnt think of it first? Who pissed on your chips this morning?? I just think that it sucks people are forced to get these prints from ebay rather than through BRP shows or their website. Its not like its a few prints.. Its gotta be 5 or 6 prints nearly every week. |
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by alsbabar on Aug 24, 2008 11:24:05 GMT 1, i dont eat chips in the morning!!
So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!!
i dont eat chips in the morning!!
So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!!
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by manty on Aug 24, 2008 11:28:30 GMT 1, i dont eat chips in the morning!! So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!!
The other option of course is to stop supporting galleries like BRP at all.
This is the option I choose to take
i dont eat chips in the morning!! So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!! The other option of course is to stop supporting galleries like BRP at all. This is the option I choose to take |
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by f5ers on Aug 24, 2008 11:30:24 GMT 1, i dont eat chips in the morning!! So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!!
What is it with you?? Do you have to degenrate every thread you post in?? I was just raising a pretty valid discussion that BRP hand over a few hundred prints a year for some sheep farming gallery owner in wales to flip on ebay.. Just seems like a weird way of conducting business
i dont eat chips in the morning!! So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!! What is it with you?? Do you have to degenrate every thread you post in?? I was just raising a pretty valid discussion that BRP hand over a few hundred prints a year for some sheep farming gallery owner in wales to flip on ebay.. Just seems like a weird way of conducting business |
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by alsbabar on Aug 24, 2008 11:31:52 GMT 1, i dont eat chips in the morning!! So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!! The other option of course is to stop supporting galleries like BRP at all. This is the option I choose to take
then dont support them - geez this is a boring subject - you art purchases will dry up rapid if you are going to boycott galleries who act like this - every single one of them operate the same way - they give preferential treatment to big buyers and collectors
i dont eat chips in the morning!! So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!! The other option of course is to stop supporting galleries like BRP at all. This is the option I choose to take then dont support them - geez this is a boring subject - you art purchases will dry up rapid if you are going to boycott galleries who act like this - every single one of them operate the same way - they give preferential treatment to big buyers and collectors |
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by alsbabar on Aug 24, 2008 11:33:41 GMT 1, i dont eat chips in the morning!! So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!! What is it with you?? Do you have to degenrate every thread you post in?? I was just raising a pretty valid discussion that BRP hand over a few hundred prints a year for some sheep farming gallery owner in wales to flip on ebay.. Just seems like a weird way of conducting business
degenerate every thread? I rarely post now, simply because there are too many moronic threads like this, that isnt about the art, its about the money or bashing someone who is selling a print
i dont eat chips in the morning!! So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!! What is it with you?? Do you have to degenrate every thread you post in?? I was just raising a pretty valid discussion that BRP hand over a few hundred prints a year for some sheep farming gallery owner in wales to flip on ebay.. Just seems like a weird way of conducting business degenerate every thread? I rarely post now, simply because there are too many moronic threads like this, that isnt about the art, its about the money or bashing someone who is selling a print |
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by scavos on Aug 24, 2008 12:19:00 GMT 1, i dont eat chips in the morning!! So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!! The other option of course is to stop supporting galleries like BRP at all. This is the option I choose to take
I couldn't agree more with you manty.
Thanks f5ers for pointing this out as I'd missed it first time around. Very poor form.
Poor alsabar, fancy people posting threads that you don't want them to eh? Deep breaths fella. 
I'm sure if you keep plugging away, you'll have an effect sometime around 2108.
i dont eat chips in the morning!! So what, it is there prints, they can do whatever they like, whenever they like - perhaps if you became a good client of BRP they might give you the same treatment - till then, stop throwing your toys out of your pram!! The other option of course is to stop supporting galleries like BRP at all. This is the option I choose to take I couldn't agree more with you manty. Thanks f5ers for pointing this out as I'd missed it first time around. Very poor form. Poor alsabar, fancy people posting threads that you don't want them to eh? Deep breaths fella. I'm sure if you keep plugging away, you'll have an effect sometime around 2108. |
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by alsbabar on Aug 24, 2008 12:24:55 GMT 1, scavos i really dont give a shit if i have an effect or not, i dont participate in this forum to bash galleries or people selling - each to their own i say.
Just as much as I have a choice to read this thread or not, F5er/Manty and you even have a choice to either take the issue up with BRP direct or not buy from them, but to hide behind a screen hoping that some mob mentality will kick in and pound Panamababe (the ebay seller) and BRP, is pathetic, and reeks of envy imo
scavos i really dont give a shit if i have an effect or not, i dont participate in this forum to bash galleries or people selling - each to their own i say.
Just as much as I have a choice to read this thread or not, F5er/Manty and you even have a choice to either take the issue up with BRP direct or not buy from them, but to hide behind a screen hoping that some mob mentality will kick in and pound Panamababe (the ebay seller) and BRP, is pathetic, and reeks of envy imo
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by f5ers on Aug 24, 2008 12:33:01 GMT 1, 
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by f5ers on Aug 24, 2008 12:45:36 GMT 1, I'm not envious.. Just think its unusual business practice for such Peeplz as the BRP to sell that amount of prints to a flipper. Most Printers/Galleries/Artists are all against flipping yet you don't see them selling direct to an ebay seller. I'm pretty sure there'd be uproar if the same thing was happenin with Banksy prints and POW.
In fact it almost seems like BRP can't sell out print runs. They make it appear there is huge demand for their prints when they are released so they are sold out on the BRP website in seconds.
The Hundreds of prints that are left are then trickled out through ebay....
Wouldn't suprise me if Mike also work for Bonhams?? By vetting auction listings of whats included in Sales, and setting estimates and reserves.
I also wouldn't be suprised if he also works for rich clients and works on a comission basis for acquiring pieces for them. Buying back work at hugely inflated prices and creating hype and demand for BRP. I might also have an overactive imagination but i bet this shit goes on all over the urban and modern art market.
I'm not envious.. Just think its unusual business practice for such Peeplz as the BRP to sell that amount of prints to a flipper. Most Printers/Galleries/Artists are all against flipping yet you don't see them selling direct to an ebay seller. I'm pretty sure there'd be uproar if the same thing was happenin with Banksy prints and POW.
In fact it almost seems like BRP can't sell out print runs. They make it appear there is huge demand for their prints when they are released so they are sold out on the BRP website in seconds.
The Hundreds of prints that are left are then trickled out through ebay....
Wouldn't suprise me if Mike also work for Bonhams?? By vetting auction listings of whats included in Sales, and setting estimates and reserves.
I also wouldn't be suprised if he also works for rich clients and works on a comission basis for acquiring pieces for them. Buying back work at hugely inflated prices and creating hype and demand for BRP. I might also have an overactive imagination but i bet this shit goes on all over the urban and modern art market.
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by pfffffffffft on Aug 24, 2008 12:54:54 GMT 1, I'm not envious.. Just think its unusual business practice for such Peeplz as the BRP to sell that amount of prints to a flipper. Most Printers/Galleries/Artists are all against flipping yet you don't see them selling direct to an ebay seller. I'm pretty sure there'd be uproar if the same thing was happenin with Banksy prints and POW.
I have to agree on that one. However, giving BRP the benefit of the doubt here, I would suspect they likely believed they were selling to a gallery and did not expect to see the pieces on ebay. I would bet if they knew they'd end up on the bay I doubt they would have been as generous in allowing them to purchase as many items as they did.
This is also the same seller who was selling a COA on it's own on a tart I believe. Which to me is well beyond any ethical practice of a true gallery. That said, it's a disappointment that this "gallery" was allowed to have such access to great works.
I'm not envious.. Just think its unusual business practice for such Peeplz as the BRP to sell that amount of prints to a flipper. Most Printers/Galleries/Artists are all against flipping yet you don't see them selling direct to an ebay seller. I'm pretty sure there'd be uproar if the same thing was happenin with Banksy prints and POW. I have to agree on that one. However, giving BRP the benefit of the doubt here, I would suspect they likely believed they were selling to a gallery and did not expect to see the pieces on ebay. I would bet if they knew they'd end up on the bay I doubt they would have been as generous in allowing them to purchase as many items as they did. This is also the same seller who was selling a COA on it's own on a tart I believe. Which to me is well beyond any ethical practice of a true gallery. That said, it's a disappointment that this "gallery" was allowed to have such access to great works. |
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by scavos on Aug 24, 2008 13:01:32 GMT 1, Ok. Sorry you think it is pathetic for people on an internet art forum to use their computers to highlight a particular concern that others may find of interest.
Could you please explain what your understanding of an art discussion forum is for?
I am not interested in bashing anyone and I certainly don't think that was intended by anyone posting about the gallery or the ebay seller.
I simply choose to express my view as others have done that I believe it is very poor form for a gallery to sell their prints to the public in this way. There is also no justification in my eyes for a gallery to sell a COA belonging to someone else on ebay. There is evidence of strong links between BRP and the ebay seller/gallery owner.
Surely it is a good thing that things like this are highlighted so bad practice can be confronted an customer service improved.
Just to add that you contradict yourself as you have often highlighted your concerns about poor practices you have experienced, even contributing to a thread about the worst online gallery awards if my memory serves me correctly. I suspect your posts going back that far no longer exist.
Do you object in this case because it doesn't suit you personally?
I guess it's one rule for you and then another rule for us other forumites.
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thats bollocks bram - LAG is probably one of the most irritating and worst online websites out there, irrespective to what artist, it has always had problems - to survive in this highly competitive and demanding market, not only do you need to keep up with the rest of the game, you need to be ahead of it - and sorting out your server issues IS one of the cheapest and simplest things to do - what LAG arent doing is just lazy - its called LAG for a reason!!"
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Ok. Sorry you think it is pathetic for people on an internet art forum to use their computers to highlight a particular concern that others may find of interest. Could you please explain what your understanding of an art discussion forum is for? I am not interested in bashing anyone and I certainly don't think that was intended by anyone posting about the gallery or the ebay seller. I simply choose to express my view as others have done that I believe it is very poor form for a gallery to sell their prints to the public in this way. There is also no justification in my eyes for a gallery to sell a COA belonging to someone else on ebay. There is evidence of strong links between BRP and the ebay seller/gallery owner. Surely it is a good thing that things like this are highlighted so bad practice can be confronted an customer service improved. Just to add that you contradict yourself as you have often highlighted your concerns about poor practices you have experienced, even contributing to a thread about the worst online gallery awards if my memory serves me correctly. I suspect your posts going back that far no longer exist. Do you object in this case because it doesn't suit you personally? I guess it's one rule for you and then another rule for us other forumites. You? Contradictory? Here's a little reminder... "Re: New Josh Keyes Jul 16, 2008, 8:53am ยป -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thats bollocks bram - LAG is probably one of the most irritating and worst online websites out there, irrespective to what artist, it has always had problems - to survive in this highly competitive and demanding market, not only do you need to keep up with the rest of the game, you need to be ahead of it - and sorting out your server issues IS one of the cheapest and simplest things to do - what LAG arent doing is just lazy - its called LAG for a reason!!" Give us a kiss and lend us a bob... |
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by alsbabar on Aug 24, 2008 13:52:45 GMT 1, scavos, when do you ever see APs for sale online? certainly not Nick Walkers prints - so these are prints that were not for general sale. I personally dont give a shit what panamababe does with her prints and that is my point, it is always easy to bash others/galleries, because it doesnt suit your agenda or needs. If F5 wants to highlight bad practice, then take it to BRP, that would be more empowering to him/her, BRP and for true collectors.
What BRP are doing is no different to what Laz or any other gallery has and still does, by selling AP's away from the normal run. I also dont see how bashing BRP is talking about art, as there is no artistic merit/discussion in the thread.
I am not contradicting myself either, because its not me slagging off BRP for poor practice.
scavos, when do you ever see APs for sale online? certainly not Nick Walkers prints - so these are prints that were not for general sale. I personally dont give a shit what panamababe does with her prints and that is my point, it is always easy to bash others/galleries, because it doesnt suit your agenda or needs. If F5 wants to highlight bad practice, then take it to BRP, that would be more empowering to him/her, BRP and for true collectors.
What BRP are doing is no different to what Laz or any other gallery has and still does, by selling AP's away from the normal run. I also dont see how bashing BRP is talking about art, as there is no artistic merit/discussion in the thread.
I am not contradicting myself either, because its not me slagging off BRP for poor practice.
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by Sacked... on Aug 24, 2008 20:36:23 GMT 1, When i have brought prints off BRP i have then emailed them straight away and kindly asked for a/ps and some times they oblige and sometimes they dont.Mayb this seller does the same ? .
When i have brought prints off BRP i have then emailed them straight away and kindly asked for a/ps and some times they oblige and sometimes they dont.Mayb this seller does the same ? .
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by f5ers on Aug 24, 2008 21:00:41 GMT 1, When i have brought prints off BRP i have then emailed them straight away and kindly asked for a/ps and some times they oblige and sometimes they dont.Mayb this seller does the same ? .
5 times a week on sold out prints.... I'll have to try that ;D
When i have brought prints off BRP i have then emailed them straight away and kindly asked for a/ps and some times they oblige and sometimes they dont.Mayb this seller does the same ? . 5 times a week on sold out prints.... I'll have to try that ;D |
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by andyctree on Aug 24, 2008 21:40:31 GMT 1, What is it with you?? Do you have to degenrate every thread you post in?? I was just raising a pretty valid discussion that BRP hand over a few hundred prints a year for some sheep farming gallery owner in wales to flip on ebay.. Just seems like a weird way of conducting business degenerate every thread? I rarely post now, simply because there are too many moronic threads like this, that isnt about the art, its about the money or bashing someone who is selling a print
Why don't you go cry about Josh Keyes and Limited Addiction Gallery again? I guess that wasn't a moronic thread though.
What is it with you?? Do you have to degenrate every thread you post in?? I was just raising a pretty valid discussion that BRP hand over a few hundred prints a year for some sheep farming gallery owner in wales to flip on ebay.. Just seems like a weird way of conducting business degenerate every thread? I rarely post now, simply because there are too many moronic threads like this, that isnt about the art, its about the money or bashing someone who is selling a print Why don't you go cry about Josh Keyes and Limited Addiction Gallery again? I guess that wasn't a moronic thread though. |
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BRP Prints on Ebay, by Heavyconsumer on Aug 24, 2008 22:58:21 GMT 1, This bastard was selling a COA for crying out loud! He/she/they are a complete joke and have been brought up on the forum before. There are issues with doing business with these people for those who do care about ethical practise and they should be flagged to be avoided wherever possible imo. If you don't care, fair enough of course - why are you reading this thread, let alone posting in it? It's an odd type of voyeurism I can't understand.
This bastard was selling a COA for crying out loud! He/she/they are a complete joke and have been brought up on the forum before. There are issues with doing business with these people for those who do care about ethical practise and they should be flagged to be avoided wherever possible imo. If you don't care, fair enough of course - why are you reading this thread, let alone posting in it? It's an odd type of voyeurism I can't understand.
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