Billy Sport
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whats all this then?, by Billy Sport on Sept 13, 2008 0:15:04 GMT 1, ebay 320298798627 eh?
ebay 320298798627 eh?
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whats all this then?, by Deleted on Sept 13, 2008 0:24:12 GMT 1, Well. They are a v rare find and they come with something written on a Laz business card.
Well. They are a v rare find and they come with something written on a Laz business card.
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pfffffffffft
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whats all this then?, by pfffffffffft on Sept 13, 2008 0:32:31 GMT 1, Interesting...no photos of the backs of the canvas', no actual copy of the receipt, no photo of the signature. And I wonder how he'd put a colored hue like that over 3 canvases without the use of a photoshop filter. First the seller says the person she bought them from has no idea what they are worth, then goes on to say, she herself has no idea what they are worth. Feeling a touch shady?
Interesting...no photos of the backs of the canvas', no actual copy of the receipt, no photo of the signature. And I wonder how he'd put a colored hue like that over 3 canvases without the use of a photoshop filter. First the seller says the person she bought them from has no idea what they are worth, then goes on to say, she herself has no idea what they are worth. Feeling a touch shady?
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craigf
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whats all this then?, by craigf on Sept 13, 2008 8:34:53 GMT 1, Saw this last night and was going to post something this morning on here if no one else had. The seller has now added the following:
"Paperwork to be included with sale includes letter from Lazerides with receipt for £50 plus VAT for approxmate valuation; the letter stating their belief that the pieces are authentic. The pieces were NOT bought from Lazerides. Judging by the letter from the previous owner the pieces were given as a gift by the artist and the bill of sale a signed document by that recipient. This was one car boot I was glad I attended!!"
So it seems that Lazarides now also authenticates Banksy works
The seller has now also changed their name from 1924.myonlineshop to eroticroseartgallery. As they are a gallery the pieces must be real ;D
So who is going to ask some pertenent questions?
Saw this last night and was going to post something this morning on here if no one else had. The seller has now added the following: "Paperwork to be included with sale includes letter from Lazerides with receipt for £50 plus VAT for approxmate valuation; the letter stating their belief that the pieces are authentic. The pieces were NOT bought from Lazerides. Judging by the letter from the previous owner the pieces were given as a gift by the artist and the bill of sale a signed document by that recipient. This was one car boot I was glad I attended!!" So it seems that Lazarides now also authenticates Banksy works The seller has now also changed their name from 1924.myonlineshop to eroticroseartgallery. As they are a gallery the pieces must be real ;D So who is going to ask some pertenent questions?
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jakek
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June 2008
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whats all this then?, by jakek on Sept 13, 2008 10:08:07 GMT 1, If you look at the photos of the 3 coloured ones the little camera watermark that ebay put on all the photos they host is cropped. So basically this seller has nabbed a picture from ebay and then photoshopped them?
still, they've now added a link to a bbc news story from october last year to say how much banksy's canvases are worth - really appealing to people's greed.
If you look at the photos of the 3 coloured ones the little camera watermark that ebay put on all the photos they host is cropped. So basically this seller has nabbed a picture from ebay and then photoshopped them?
still, they've now added a link to a bbc news story from october last year to say how much banksy's canvases are worth - really appealing to people's greed.
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whats all this then?, by snakes on Sept 13, 2008 11:03:14 GMT 1, they are not even canvases. They are photos of the print with different coloured filters.
Who ever bids for this rubbish needs their heads examined!
they are not even canvases. They are photos of the print with different coloured filters.
Who ever bids for this rubbish needs their heads examined!
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whats all this then?, by worlddomination on Sept 13, 2008 11:15:10 GMT 1, I was going to list the thread with the same title thats all i know about it, plus he never mentions the name Banksy just the artist all the time. prov letter could be to do with anything, and as we can only see the comp slip well thats enough for me. good sluthing on the photoshop shit!
I was going to list the thread with the same title thats all i know about it, plus he never mentions the name Banksy just the artist all the time. prov letter could be to do with anything, and as we can only see the comp slip well thats enough for me. good sluthing on the photoshop shit!
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whats all this then?, by Deleted on Sept 13, 2008 12:04:53 GMT 1, Its gone.
Its gone.
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craigf
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whats all this then?, by craigf on Sept 13, 2008 12:46:39 GMT 1, Oh no, maybe someone made a cracking off line bid and I have missed the chance to have 4 monkeys on the wall
Seriously, I hope this hasn't happened
Oh no, maybe someone made a cracking off line bid and I have missed the chance to have 4 monkeys on the wall Seriously, I hope this hasn't happened
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Billy Sport
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February 2008
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whats all this then?, by Billy Sport on Sept 14, 2008 0:36:12 GMT 1, back up and over £2.6k!!!!
back up and over £2.6k!!!!
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whats all this then?, by Guest on Sept 14, 2008 0:44:03 GMT 1, what a load of bollocks, definitely photoshop filters.
what a load of bollocks, definitely photoshop filters.
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craigf
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whats all this then?, by craigf on Sept 14, 2008 9:23:49 GMT 1, and claiming he can't post more pictures as there are now bids on the item
I do hope the highest bidder is a similar scam artist
and claiming he can't post more pictures as there are now bids on the item I do hope the highest bidder is a similar scam artist
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whats all this then?, by mydeaddogwontwoof on Sept 14, 2008 9:28:46 GMT 1, The picture of the Laz letter is stolen from the signed happy choppers listing that ended yesterday....
Can't believe this is at 2.5k, are people really this stupid?
The picture of the Laz letter is stolen from the signed happy choppers listing that ended yesterday....
Can't believe this is at 2.5k, are people really this stupid?
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whats all this then?, by insite on Sept 14, 2008 10:13:55 GMT 1, The picture of the Laz letter is stolen from the signed happy choppers listing that ended yesterday.... Can't believe this is at 2.5k, are people really this stupid?
Yes, in fact some are even more stupid.
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300255696025
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whats all this then?, by Guest on Sept 14, 2008 10:48:55 GMT 1, reserve not met, more than likely now offering it to bidders for a bank transfer!
reserve not met, more than likely now offering it to bidders for a bank transfer!
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whats all this then?, by giiiant on Sept 14, 2008 14:21:29 GMT 1, This combined with the fake Neate piece they're selling creates a very bad impression indeed
This combined with the fake Neate piece they're selling creates a very bad impression indeed
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whats all this then?, by Deleted on Sept 14, 2008 14:28:07 GMT 1, it's probably fake! contact the seller and asked for some photos of the piece and a copy of the laz. slip.. curious! (not even think about buying)
it's probably fake! contact the seller and asked for some photos of the piece and a copy of the laz. slip.. curious! (not even think about buying)
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whats all this then?, by eroticroseartgalle on Sept 14, 2008 21:29:59 GMT 1, Hi Everyone. I have joined the forum as I feel I need to have the right to reply to some if not all of the accusations posted on here. I quite understand your comments and totally agree with some. I have to refute being either a thief OR a fraudster. By simple dictionary definition I am neither of those things. I have simply offered for sale some items that I bought in good faith. If they do prove to be fake I feel that says more about my knowledge of art than my integrity! Is it possible to email either Banksy or Adam Neate in order to find out what they have to say. Some members on here appear to have a 'hotline'! With regard to the Adam Neate works that I have - 3 in total bought from 3 different sellers up and down the country I would be grateful if anyone could give me some pointers as to how to spot fakes amongst these 'street pieces'. As Mr Neate has apparently left 1000's left around and as they are certainly not all catalogued exactly HOW can one be sure?? I have a profound love of art and would never intend to insult such fine artists. I made a ridiculous mistake with the 'representations' and will email photographs of the actual pieces of 'Banksy' to anyone who asks for them The signatures certainly look - to my eyes anyway most accurate. Please everyone. Call me stupid by all means..but PLEASE do not call me dishonest. I am not. I would appreciate any and all of your comments and advice. The works by Sergei Assanowicz and Susan Solak and Victoria Rhodes are FULLY authenticated. I collect the works from the artists!!! Glad to have found this site.
Hi Everyone. I have joined the forum as I feel I need to have the right to reply to some if not all of the accusations posted on here. I quite understand your comments and totally agree with some. I have to refute being either a thief OR a fraudster. By simple dictionary definition I am neither of those things. I have simply offered for sale some items that I bought in good faith. If they do prove to be fake I feel that says more about my knowledge of art than my integrity! Is it possible to email either Banksy or Adam Neate in order to find out what they have to say. Some members on here appear to have a 'hotline'! With regard to the Adam Neate works that I have - 3 in total bought from 3 different sellers up and down the country I would be grateful if anyone could give me some pointers as to how to spot fakes amongst these 'street pieces'. As Mr Neate has apparently left 1000's left around and as they are certainly not all catalogued exactly HOW can one be sure?? I have a profound love of art and would never intend to insult such fine artists. I made a ridiculous mistake with the 'representations' and will email photographs of the actual pieces of 'Banksy' to anyone who asks for them The signatures certainly look - to my eyes anyway most accurate. Please everyone. Call me stupid by all means..but PLEASE do not call me dishonest. I am not. I would appreciate any and all of your comments and advice. The works by Sergei Assanowicz and Susan Solak and Victoria Rhodes are FULLY authenticated. I collect the works from the artists!!! Glad to have found this site.
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Prescription Art
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whats all this then?, by Prescription Art on Sept 14, 2008 21:37:49 GMT 1, Why not post proper pictures on ebay or the forum anyway?
Surely you can't expect anybody to bid on this stuff based on the photos you've provided?
The fact that the supposed 'provenance' you photograph in the auction is by your own admission stolen from another listing doesn't help your case either.
Why not post some proper photos on the forum so that we can see properly what you're selling? I'd be very interested to see the signatures.
I've personally never seen anything like these, but I also think it's not beyond the realms of possiblity that such things could exist... however I think anyone bidding based on the photos you've provided is insane.
Why not post proper pictures on ebay or the forum anyway?
Surely you can't expect anybody to bid on this stuff based on the photos you've provided?
The fact that the supposed 'provenance' you photograph in the auction is by your own admission stolen from another listing doesn't help your case either.
Why not post some proper photos on the forum so that we can see properly what you're selling? I'd be very interested to see the signatures.
I've personally never seen anything like these, but I also think it's not beyond the realms of possiblity that such things could exist... however I think anyone bidding based on the photos you've provided is insane.
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whats all this then?, by Deleted on Sept 14, 2008 21:47:01 GMT 1, Welcome to the forum eroticroseartgalle, fair play for coming on here to ask members opinions!. As the previous post says actual images would be a good start. edit. Have emailed you incase you cannot load images onto here.
Welcome to the forum eroticroseartgalle, fair play for coming on here to ask members opinions!. As the previous post says actual images would be a good start. edit. Have emailed you incase you cannot load images onto here.
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whats all this then?, by rosstierney on Sept 14, 2008 21:51:54 GMT 1, if i was sitting on a potential gold mine i'd put the pieces forward for authentication via www.pestcontroloffice.com/ & if authentic, sell via a choice of two or three auction houses for maximum return
then again . . . you're not me
if i was sitting on a potential gold mine i'd put the pieces forward for authentication via www.pestcontroloffice.com/ & if authentic, sell via a choice of two or three auction houses for maximum return then again . . . you're not me
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nickodey
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whats all this then?, by nickodey on Sept 14, 2008 21:54:40 GMT 1, Hi Everyone. I have joined the forum as I feel I need to have the right to reply to some if not all of the accusations posted on here. I quite understand your comments and totally agree with some. I have to refute being either a thief OR a fraudster. By simple dictionary definition I am neither of those things. I have simply offered for sale some items that I bought in good faith. If they do prove to be fake I feel that says more about my knowledge of art than my integrity! Is it possible to email either Banksy or Adam Neate in order to find out what they have to say. Some members on here appear to have a 'hotline'! With regard to the Adam Neate works that I have - 3 in total bought from 3 different sellers up and down the country I would be grateful if anyone could give me some pointers as to how to spot fakes amongst these 'street pieces'. As Mr Neate has apparently left 1000's left around and as they are certainly not all catalogued exactly HOW can one be sure?? I have a profound love of art and would never intend to insult such fine artists. I made a ridiculous mistake with the 'representations' and will email photographs of the actual pieces of 'Banksy' to anyone who asks for them The signatures certainly look - to my eyes anyway most accurate. Please everyone. Call me stupid by all means..but PLEASE do not call me dishonest. I am not. I would appreciate any and all of your comments and advice. The works by Sergei Assanowicz and Susan Solak and Victoria Rhodes are FULLY authenticated. I collect the works from the artists!!! Glad to have found this site. Can you put the pics that you say you cant put on ebay on this thread! ie:original pics of pieces, signatures and letter from laz.... Would be interesting to see and would be good for your credability....
Hi Everyone. I have joined the forum as I feel I need to have the right to reply to some if not all of the accusations posted on here. I quite understand your comments and totally agree with some. I have to refute being either a thief OR a fraudster. By simple dictionary definition I am neither of those things. I have simply offered for sale some items that I bought in good faith. If they do prove to be fake I feel that says more about my knowledge of art than my integrity! Is it possible to email either Banksy or Adam Neate in order to find out what they have to say. Some members on here appear to have a 'hotline'! With regard to the Adam Neate works that I have - 3 in total bought from 3 different sellers up and down the country I would be grateful if anyone could give me some pointers as to how to spot fakes amongst these 'street pieces'. As Mr Neate has apparently left 1000's left around and as they are certainly not all catalogued exactly HOW can one be sure?? I have a profound love of art and would never intend to insult such fine artists. I made a ridiculous mistake with the 'representations' and will email photographs of the actual pieces of 'Banksy' to anyone who asks for them The signatures certainly look - to my eyes anyway most accurate. Please everyone. Call me stupid by all means..but PLEASE do not call me dishonest. I am not. I would appreciate any and all of your comments and advice. The works by Sergei Assanowicz and Susan Solak and Victoria Rhodes are FULLY authenticated. I collect the works from the artists!!! Glad to have found this site. Can you put the pics that you say you cant put on ebay on this thread! ie:original pics of pieces, signatures and letter from laz.... Would be interesting to see and would be good for your credability....
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Harveyn
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whats all this then?, by Harveyn on Sept 14, 2008 22:20:15 GMT 1, This should be interesting and there can be no reasonable excuse for not posting images on this forum. If you do not know how to do so pm me and you can email them to me and I will post them for you.
This should be interesting and there can be no reasonable excuse for not posting images on this forum. If you do not know how to do so pm me and you can email them to me and I will post them for you.
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whats all this then?, by snakes on Sept 14, 2008 22:29:54 GMT 1, If ever there are photo's posted of the actual canvases i will eat a hat.
Have a good mind to put in a complaint about the listings via eBay seeing as the descriptions are in breach of the eBay terms - never mind the fact they are fraudulent..
If ever there are photo's posted of the actual canvases i will eat a hat.
Have a good mind to put in a complaint about the listings via eBay seeing as the descriptions are in breach of the eBay terms - never mind the fact they are fraudulent..
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top
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whats all this then?, by top on Sept 14, 2008 22:32:39 GMT 1, doubt we'll hear any more..
Blatant fraud tbh
doubt we'll hear any more..
Blatant fraud tbh
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whats all this then?, by Guest on Sept 14, 2008 22:32:45 GMT 1, waiting for photos
waiting for photos
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whats all this then?, by eroticroseartgalle on Sept 14, 2008 22:57:32 GMT 1, Thank you for all of your comments I have asked for assistance in loading the photos up on here tomorrow. I do appreciate all of your comments and think your cynicism is healthy. I do not however know how you can accuse me of fraud. I have what I believe MAY be genuine articles. If I email this pest control place will they tell me for sure? Any advice would be most grateful. Posting representations of the pieces WAS stupid I would be the first to admit. I will never list an auction without photographing the item front back upside down and right way up!! I have felt quite poorly today reading the accusations levelled at me. As stated on my ebay auction...daft maybe...fraudster.ABSOLUTELY NOT. Please check I have added notes to my auctions stating that I am not 100 per cent certain that they are genuine and that I do not know for sure. There are two sides to this coin...I have had a customer telling me that a Susan Solak painting was not genuine when I had it on for £900...they were doing this to get the price down...the fact that I had collected it from her studio that morning was neither here nor there!!! I know that no one on here would or are doing that What I need is some assistance and advice on how to tell what is genuine and what is not. Best wishes to all Al
Thank you for all of your comments I have asked for assistance in loading the photos up on here tomorrow. I do appreciate all of your comments and think your cynicism is healthy. I do not however know how you can accuse me of fraud. I have what I believe MAY be genuine articles. If I email this pest control place will they tell me for sure? Any advice would be most grateful. Posting representations of the pieces WAS stupid I would be the first to admit. I will never list an auction without photographing the item front back upside down and right way up!! I have felt quite poorly today reading the accusations levelled at me. As stated on my ebay auction...daft maybe...fraudster.ABSOLUTELY NOT. Please check I have added notes to my auctions stating that I am not 100 per cent certain that they are genuine and that I do not know for sure. There are two sides to this coin...I have had a customer telling me that a Susan Solak painting was not genuine when I had it on for £900...they were doing this to get the price down...the fact that I had collected it from her studio that morning was neither here nor there!!! I know that no one on here would or are doing that What I need is some assistance and advice on how to tell what is genuine and what is not. Best wishes to all Al
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whats all this then?, by snakes on Sept 14, 2008 23:02:25 GMT 1, sounds like another HAISURF waiting to happen!
sounds like another HAISURF waiting to happen!
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whats all this then?, by alsbabar on Sept 14, 2008 23:06:47 GMT 1, or a robert mcgarry
or a robert mcgarry
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