achtungbono
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achtungbono
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Joseph beuys ?, by achtungbono on Sept 14, 2008 15:26:20 GMT 1, Then again, ow many are fluxus devotees on here ?
Then again, ow many are fluxus devotees on here ?
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docmax
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Joseph beuys ?, by docmax on Sept 14, 2008 20:27:24 GMT 1, ยฃ38 seems like an absolute bargain if its the deal real. Would love to have bagged that but was spending a great afternoon in Ikea instead. bugger!
Beuys is really underated imo, a real innovator. he was a complete fruit loop as well which adds to his appeal. He was also a bit of a political giant in Germany, the Royal Academy of Arts had a great exhibition on him a few years ago.
ยฃ38 seems like an absolute bargain if its the deal real. Would love to have bagged that but was spending a great afternoon in Ikea instead. bugger!
Beuys is really underated imo, a real innovator. he was a complete fruit loop as well which adds to his appeal. He was also a bit of a political giant in Germany, the Royal Academy of Arts had a great exhibition on him a few years ago.
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achtungbono
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Joseph beuys ?, by achtungbono on Sept 15, 2008 9:03:30 GMT 1, Agree
ยฃ38 for a Beuys or several hundred quid for some ghastly derived/ contrived/ garish/ facile Insect tat with a nice litte stamp in the corner
There is more to art than POW prints you know - alot more
Agree
ยฃ38 for a Beuys or several hundred quid for some ghastly derived/ contrived/ garish/ facile Insect tat with a nice litte stamp in the corner
There is more to art than POW prints you know - alot more
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artstudent
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Joseph beuys ?, by artstudent on Sept 15, 2008 10:03:39 GMT 1,
It is a signed post card. Produced 1982 as an unlimited edition. Worth ยฃ50.
It is a signed post card. Produced 1982 as an unlimited edition. Worth ยฃ50.
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sputnikeye
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Joseph beuys ?, by sputnikeye on Sept 15, 2008 11:14:20 GMT 1, since when has beuys been underated?
since when has beuys been underated?
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artstudent
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Joseph beuys ?, by artstudent on Sept 15, 2008 12:01:53 GMT 1, since when has beuys been underated? Since 2004 Beuys prints come down due to a large publisher flooded thousands of Beuys prints in the market which have been sold by ebay. But that doesn't matter to drawings and paintings.
since when has beuys been underated? Since 2004 Beuys prints come down due to a large publisher flooded thousands of Beuys prints in the market which have been sold by ebay. But that doesn't matter to drawings and paintings.
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sputnikeye
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Joseph beuys ?, by sputnikeye on Sept 15, 2008 14:17:46 GMT 1, because the market was inflated doesn't make his work underated
because the market was inflated doesn't make his work underated
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artstudent
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Joseph beuys ?, by artstudent on Sept 15, 2008 14:36:01 GMT 1, because the market was inflated doesn't make his work underated Underrated means significant deviation from normal curve of distribution. In case of Beuys prints it is given. So 'unterrated' is habitual language use.
because the market was inflated doesn't make his work underated Underrated means significant deviation from normal curve of distribution. In case of Beuys prints it is given. So 'unterrated' is habitual language use.
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sputnikeye
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Joseph beuys ?, by sputnikeye on Sept 15, 2008 19:55:28 GMT 1, It wasn't about his prints. someone said Beuys was underated.
It wasn't about his prints. someone said Beuys was underated.
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docmax
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Joseph beuys ?, by docmax on Sept 15, 2008 23:44:19 GMT 1, OK sputny not going to let this drop are you? Ill explain myself then.
When I mentioned that Beuys was underrated I was alluding to the fact that he is an artistic equivolent of marmite. Essentially he has had polemics and hagiographic pieces written about him in almost equal measure. Back in the day a fair amount of the American art movement rejected his work. There was an uneasy mistrust about him being a luftwafe pilot in Nazi germany and to excatly what level he subscribed to nazism at the time. This is despite his outspoken political outlook, what with his Green party membership etc.. Also his ideas of 'everyone is an artist which in turn sculpts social order' sounded a bit like communism to hyper-paranoid USA.
As for him being underrated today, he doesnt seem to be a household name unlike many of his modernist contemporaries. His work is political and subversive and almost certainly boundry breaking yet the price tags of his works remain lower than others like picasso, pollock, rothko etc..
Happy?
OK sputny not going to let this drop are you? Ill explain myself then.
When I mentioned that Beuys was underrated I was alluding to the fact that he is an artistic equivolent of marmite. Essentially he has had polemics and hagiographic pieces written about him in almost equal measure. Back in the day a fair amount of the American art movement rejected his work. There was an uneasy mistrust about him being a luftwafe pilot in Nazi germany and to excatly what level he subscribed to nazism at the time. This is despite his outspoken political outlook, what with his Green party membership etc.. Also his ideas of 'everyone is an artist which in turn sculpts social order' sounded a bit like communism to hyper-paranoid USA.
As for him being underrated today, he doesnt seem to be a household name unlike many of his modernist contemporaries. His work is political and subversive and almost certainly boundry breaking yet the price tags of his works remain lower than others like picasso, pollock, rothko etc..
Happy?
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sputnikeye
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Joseph beuys ?, by sputnikeye on Sept 16, 2008 9:51:24 GMT 1, it's nothing to do with Beuys historical context, past experience (Gunter Grass et al.) That's all common art school text book knowledge. I am interested in the definition of an artist being underated by a hyper inflated market e.g the knock on effect of supply and demand and how this effects the way people address his work. And as far as being a household name that is all relative to the household.
it's nothing to do with Beuys historical context, past experience (Gunter Grass et al.) That's all common art school text book knowledge. I am interested in the definition of an artist being underated by a hyper inflated market e.g the knock on effect of supply and demand and how this effects the way people address his work. And as far as being a household name that is all relative to the household.
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