If you think Jose is hard to get a hold of I can give you names of other young artists that aren't hard to get a hold of. Impossible. (unless you are a museum, foundation or someone like Peter Norton) And despite that I can also tell you that of those artists no one is going pay $6400 for a 15 inch screnprint by them.

You all really need to get some better perspective.

hyperbole
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”

Who else? Of course.

The Banksy Forum. It's the center of counter culture, greed, anti-establishmentism and physical desire.

Not one to usually make comments like this but, if you don't like it fuck off!

coctwo — I'll give you a considered response when you give a considered argument that isn't full of hyperbole that means nothing.


Yeah sure, whens the last time I came on here bigging up sh*t because I wanted to sell something. When's the last time I came out gushing about how much I want to buy something by a certain cool artist?

I couldn't agree more harveyn. It's good to dream isn't it?

Do you really think that is a "considered response"?

You Say:
"in 20 years time (some small two color screenprint) could be seen as 'highly prized'" You "think" his rep is growing, you "think" some "wider critical audience" will embrace him?

You're pushing this really f&*cking hard man. I don't think you understand because you're so close and emotionally attached to the subject but let's abstract it a bit, this is what it looks like you're saying:
"I think John Doe is awesome! I think his work is so amazing and scarce that it "mesmerizes" me. Even a minor little screenprint is going to be some highly prized object in 20 years once the 'wider critical art audience comes to their senses and embraces him."

Who cares! This doesn't mean anything to me. You're just hyping up this thing and gushing about your love for the guy. There is nothing critical or considered in what you say.

I've already given several names here. As for the rest do your own research. Plus I've also posted about an exhibition on the roots of street art here and some of the major artists involved. (Wasn't a hot topic here as there were no limited editions to buy, flip nor any hot young artists there to hype and consume.)

And I'm not ragging on Parla. The work is fine, I've spoken positive things about Parla before. Although as I said I think you guys are way over exaggerating future prospects.

Really, I'm ragging on the over zealous hype and mass consumerism on these boards. It's astounding and beyond anything I've seen anywhere else. Think about it, Parla releases a screenprint. I'd bet money all 20 of them went to forum members aside form maybe a few to people involved in the production. And half of them have already gone up for grabs. Collecting art, I'm guilty too. But here. It's mass consumerism and monstrous hype coming from a 'counter culture' crowd that is supposedly not so.

And to further my point, I own a painting I got a few years ago by an artist that is now probably much harder to get a hold of then Parla, but I could never see myself gushing and saying the kinds of things about him as you guys say about parla and the rest of the gang here. Just so over the top here.

With all due respect, perhaps you should spend some time reading art history. When you take someone like Banksy who essentially is responsible for the urban art movement taking off, 9 times out of 10 artists at the forefront of a movement do have longevity. You may be able to reinterpret more abstract works on a daily basis but can you reinterpret warhol or lichtenstein on a daily basis? I believe their longevity does not rely on people being able to reinterpret the works but in them being works appealing to the eye and being at the forefront of their movement.

At the time, even during wild success each of the artists there were critics at the time...there was an article from newsweek from 1966 talking about the pop art movement.

www.lichtensteinfoundation.org/newsweekapr66.htm

My two favorite quotes?

When pop hit the American scene, the staid art establishment took it as a kick in the head. Lichtenstein was variously called the best new artist of the generation, and, by a New York Times art critic, "one of the worst artists in America."

and...

Prof. fred Elkin of Toronto's York University thinks Batman is a typical fad and will join Davey Crockett in fad heaven in a few months."Adults today are under Batman's spell," he says"He allows them to do exciting things and to say exciting things." But gratification is short-lived.


I think with the success of Banksy many on this board get ahead of themselves. Banksy's success is an anomaly in the sense that many artists dont rocket that quickly to success (again, art history) yet we all seem to hold all artists in this movement to the same standard. Everyone wants to know who the next Banksy is, people grumble on this board when their prints by other artists have only quadrupled in value instead of multiplying at a rate of 20 fold plus that Banksy has.

I would imagine the print will do reasonably well at auction, 6400 USD well is up for discussion and will ultimately be settled here in a few weeks. Side note, auction houses do tend to low ball estimates but not so low that they expect to achieve a bit more than 4 times the high estimate.

My point is Parla is still unproven out there, it's still a bit early for him, the print market is pretty weak out there, and of course there is size of the work. So before you go bandying about art history I think it's safe to recognize Parla doesnt have much history to bandy about just yet.

I could put Blek's CV next to Parla's and Blek would have shown more. You could do that with any artist. There are many artists with impressive CVs, it doesnt mean it guarantees them success and for many it doesnt.

You can take Marcel Mouly, who was the last living student to study with Picasso who had an extensive CV and a Picasso connection but never broke through. We could go on and on.

sounds like people are just bitter that this print is not being flipped to death like all of the other shit around here. it is an edition of 20 by an artists whos work is impossible to get. sorry that people are not undercutting each other on ebay with this one. if you want it, you are going to have to pay.

and the banksy board did not hold down on this one, it appears that the members that got one are more closely associated with other boards. banksy board jumped the shark over a year ago.

*cough* Private Auction *cough*

A case of not always believing everything you read maybe?

LOOK AT THE WORK PEOPLE........I will take the Pepsi challenge with all non believers.

More than gladly...

What do you want to know? Apart from it does pretty much nothing for me... it's just a bit meh... give me a Neate or a Banksy any day of the week over any Parla. It's actually hard for me to think of a 'big name' artist in this scene I'd take a Parla work over...