Va Va Voom
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LAZ Raffle, by Va Va Voom on Sept 5, 2008 1:14:35 GMT 1, Before everybody gets too excited at the long shot at winning just think of the numbers 250x5,000=1,250,000. This is a sales marketing exercise ,yes 2 or 3 will be happy but the rest will experience a very very expensive evening . Apart from 1 or 2 images these are all pieces that have not sold whilst being on offer very recently !! Bargain or over priced works?? and before you shoot it down, think about the value of the pieces given away and raffled You have 250 commissioned pieces for each ticket owner - valued at nearly ยฃ750,000 25 originals valued at nearly ยฃ1,000,000 (including two banksys valued at ยฃ650,000) Hosting the party, drinks, strippers, hiring of the venue, etc Laz is making art up to ยฃ1,750,000 available and spending as a guess, ยฃ50,000 to put on the party. I see it as a good night out and money well spent Most of which was not purchased by the great unwashed when offered for sale at the gallery....so who is the ultimate winner here Ali ?
Before everybody gets too excited at the long shot at winning just think of the numbers 250x5,000=1,250,000. This is a sales marketing exercise ,yes 2 or 3 will be happy but the rest will experience a very very expensive evening . Apart from 1 or 2 images these are all pieces that have not sold whilst being on offer very recently !! Bargain or over priced works?? and before you shoot it down, think about the value of the pieces given away and raffled You have 250 commissioned pieces for each ticket owner - valued at nearly ยฃ750,000 25 originals valued at nearly ยฃ1,000,000 (including two banksys valued at ยฃ650,000) Hosting the party, drinks, strippers, hiring of the venue, etc Laz is making art up to ยฃ1,750,000 available and spending as a guess, ยฃ50,000 to put on the party. I see it as a good night out and money well spent Most of which was not purchased by the great unwashed when offered for sale at the gallery....so who is the ultimate winner here Ali ?
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Va Va Voom
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LAZ Raffle, by Va Va Voom on Sept 5, 2008 1:17:43 GMT 1, "think about the value of the pieces given away "
Given away.....please Als ,I think we all know that this must be a joke !!!!
"think about the value of the pieces given away "
Given away.....please Als ,I think we all know that this must be a joke !!!!
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LAZ Raffle, by alsbabar on Sept 5, 2008 1:18:20 GMT 1, No they werent, but nevertheless he could sell them in to open market or put them in to auction and get a damn sight more than ยฃ5000 for each piece!!
So i dont know what your point is Paul?
No they werent, but nevertheless he could sell them in to open market or put them in to auction and get a damn sight more than ยฃ5000 for each piece!!
So i dont know what your point is Paul?
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clappie
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LAZ Raffle, by clappie on Sept 5, 2008 1:21:06 GMT 1, Does anyone think the raffle is designed to keep prices up?
This is just a thought but........ Banksy releases his new print at the raffle( the one you get with the ticket) As everone has paid 5000 grand to be there the print will be valued at that price.
Recenlty banksy works have been a steal, this would stop the slide.
Does anyone think the raffle is designed to keep prices up?
This is just a thought but........ Banksy releases his new print at the raffle( the one you get with the ticket) As everone has paid 5000 grand to be there the print will be valued at that price.
Recenlty banksy works have been a steal, this would stop the slide.
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LAZ Raffle, by alsbabar on Sept 5, 2008 1:23:09 GMT 1, you never know do you clappie, you might end up with either a signed Sale Ends or a Festival print or both!!!
you never know do you clappie, you might end up with either a signed Sale Ends or a Festival print or both!!!
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Va Va Voom
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LAZ Raffle, by Va Va Voom on Sept 5, 2008 1:25:12 GMT 1, Its shabby,using Banksy as a selling point for the media. Picasso punto !! Bacon bingo !!Warhol lottery...crass. Thats my point Al .
Its shabby,using Banksy as a selling point for the media. Picasso punto !! Bacon bingo !!Warhol lottery...crass. Thats my point Al .
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LAZ Raffle, by alsbabar on Sept 5, 2008 1:26:21 GMT 1, its a moot point mate, there are other artists in there who are just as credible or pieces even you would be more than happy with
its a moot point mate, there are other artists in there who are just as credible or pieces even you would be more than happy with
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LAZ Raffle, by Va Va Voom on Sept 5, 2008 1:31:45 GMT 1, Its not a moot point, this is not going to progress the wider art worlds opinion of this fledgling movement,it will in fact justify the opinion that its hype based.
Its not a moot point, this is not going to progress the wider art worlds opinion of this fledgling movement,it will in fact justify the opinion that its hype based.
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LAZ Raffle, by snowflake8888 on Sept 5, 2008 4:24:29 GMT 1, I'd like to think that this is Banksy having a laugh at the people he painted in "Morons". His street art is free for all and are often his best pieces. Because he doesn't want less fortunate people to get sucked in, I'd like to think that pricing it at 5k gets cash from the rich so that he can return it to the poor by organising more Santa's Ghettos and Cans Festivals. I'd like to think of Banksy as Robin Hood. But that's just me.
I'd like to think that this is Banksy having a laugh at the people he painted in "Morons". His street art is free for all and are often his best pieces. Because he doesn't want less fortunate people to get sucked in, I'd like to think that pricing it at 5k gets cash from the rich so that he can return it to the poor by organising more Santa's Ghettos and Cans Festivals. I'd like to think of Banksy as Robin Hood. But that's just me.
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thesewalls
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LAZ Raffle, by thesewalls on Sept 5, 2008 6:05:10 GMT 1, if this raffle was for CHARITY i would understand you putting Banksy and Robin Hood in the same boat. sure he uses his fame to do good things for those less fortunate, but so does Brad Pitt, and a hundred thousand other people, rich or poor alike.
if this raffle was for CHARITY i would understand you putting Banksy and Robin Hood in the same boat. sure he uses his fame to do good things for those less fortunate, but so does Brad Pitt, and a hundred thousand other people, rich or poor alike.
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LAZ Raffle, by mcnuts on Sept 5, 2008 9:10:26 GMT 1, Before everybody gets too excited at the long shot at winning just think of the numbers 250x5,000=1,250,000. This is a sales marketing exercise ,yes 2 or 3 will be happy but the rest will experience a very very expensive evening . Apart from 1 or 2 images these are all pieces that have not sold whilst being on offer very recently !! Bargain or over priced works??
voice of reason.
Before everybody gets too excited at the long shot at winning just think of the numbers 250x5,000=1,250,000. This is a sales marketing exercise ,yes 2 or 3 will be happy but the rest will experience a very very expensive evening . Apart from 1 or 2 images these are all pieces that have not sold whilst being on offer very recently !! Bargain or over priced works?? voice of reason.
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LAZ Raffle, by bradpitt on Sept 5, 2008 9:21:52 GMT 1, Thanks for explaining as I thought a raffle / lottery meant everyone won a prize. The odds are very high in ticket buyers favour, it will be sure to be a great event and if you didn't realise already the whole art market is based around hype and investment.
Thanks for explaining as I thought a raffle / lottery meant everyone won a prize. The odds are very high in ticket buyers favour, it will be sure to be a great event and if you didn't realise already the whole art market is based around hype and investment.
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Curley
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LAZ Raffle, by Curley on Sept 5, 2008 11:33:53 GMT 1, i know maths ain't my strong point and correct me if im wrong but if there are 10 major prizes and 250 tickets surely its a 1 in 25 chance of winning not 1 in 10 as i have seen some people saying.
i know maths ain't my strong point and correct me if im wrong but if there are 10 major prizes and 250 tickets surely its a 1 in 25 chance of winning not 1 in 10 as i have seen some people saying.
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LAZ Raffle, by carlito on Sept 5, 2008 11:39:05 GMT 1, you never know do you clappie, you might end up with either a signed Sale Ends or a Festival print or both!!!
that's about as likely as England winning the world cup
you never know do you clappie, you might end up with either a signed Sale Ends or a Festival print or both!!! that's about as likely as England winning the world cup
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LAZ Raffle, by alsbabar on Sept 5, 2008 11:41:50 GMT 1, no there are 25 pieces - 250 tickets = so yes maths isnt your strong point
and carlito, england won it in 66!!
no there are 25 pieces - 250 tickets = so yes maths isnt your strong point and carlito, england won it in 66!!
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Curley
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LAZ Raffle, by Curley on Sept 5, 2008 11:49:41 GMT 1, no there are 25 pieces - 250 tickets = so yes maths isnt your strong point and carlito, england won it in 66!!
Thanks Als, i kept seeing mention that there were only 10 pieces to be raffled, 25 makes more sense
no there are 25 pieces - 250 tickets = so yes maths isnt your strong point and carlito, england won it in 66!! Thanks Als, i kept seeing mention that there were only 10 pieces to be raffled, 25 makes more sense
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LAZ Raffle, by guest2 on Sept 5, 2008 11:53:28 GMT 1, I reckon you've def secured your winning ticket Alsbabar.
I reckon you've def secured your winning ticket Alsbabar.
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LAZ Raffle, by carlito on Sept 5, 2008 11:54:52 GMT 1, no there are 25 pieces - 250 tickets = so yes maths isnt your strong point and carlito, england won it in 66!!
shit really? ....I actually meant again......
no there are 25 pieces - 250 tickets = so yes maths isnt your strong point and carlito, england won it in 66!! shit really? ....I actually meant again......
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LAZ Raffle, by graeme501 on Sept 5, 2008 11:55:11 GMT 1, so who out of everyone here is buying one?
so who out of everyone here is buying one?
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LAZ Raffle, by carlito on Sept 5, 2008 11:55:53 GMT 1, I'm buying 10
I'm buying 10
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LAZ Raffle, by graeme501 on Sept 5, 2008 11:58:34 GMT 1, i spent ยฃ1.50 on a euromillions ticket instead
when i win that ยฃ90million or whatever that is, i will buy all 250 tickets, then look slighlty confused when alsbabar wins the banksy
i spent ยฃ1.50 on a euromillions ticket instead when i win that ยฃ90million or whatever that is, i will buy all 250 tickets, then look slighlty confused when alsbabar wins the banksy
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LAZ Raffle, by alsbabar on Sept 5, 2008 12:02:45 GMT 1, i'm not that lucky frankie and graeme
i am just a sucker for a good sales pitch
i'm not that lucky frankie and graeme i am just a sucker for a good sales pitch
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Grafter
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LAZ Raffle, by Grafter on Sept 5, 2008 12:12:01 GMT 1, This whole thing smacks of another great opportunity for the "Groovy Gang" with more money than sense to take part in to make them feel part of the great and the good.
I'm more than happy with my handfull of GRAFFLE tickets, thanks.
This whole thing smacks of another great opportunity for the "Groovy Gang" with more money than sense to take part in to make them feel part of the great and the good.
I'm more than happy with my handfull of GRAFFLE tickets, thanks.
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LAZ Raffle, by Grafter on Sept 5, 2008 12:16:40 GMT 1, I'd like to think of Banksy as Robin Hood. But that's just me.
Anyone else seen Taledega Nights......
โI like to think of Banksy with like giant eagles wings, and singing lead vocals for Lynard Skyned with like an angel band., and Iโm in the front row and Iโm Hammered Drunkโ
I'd like to think of Banksy as Robin Hood. But that's just me. Anyone else seen Taledega Nights...... โI like to think of Banksy with like giant eagles wings, and singing lead vocals for Lynard Skyned with like an angel band., and Iโm in the front row and Iโm Hammered Drunkโ
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hlarmy
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LAZ Raffle, by hlarmy on Sept 5, 2008 12:18:40 GMT 1, This whole thing smacks of another great opportunity for the "Groovy Gang" with more money than sense to take part in to make them feel part of the great and the good.
Is that not the art world in general (and I'm not talking about the one we're part of!)?
This whole thing smacks of another great opportunity for the "Groovy Gang" with more money than sense to take part in to make them feel part of the great and the good. Is that not the art world in general (and I'm not talking about the one we're part of!)?
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LAZ Raffle, by Richard on Sept 5, 2008 12:21:15 GMT 1, I considered it...then decided against it.
I would rather have a signed Gold Flags and 700 EuroMillions tickets.
Instead I settled for no Gold Flags and 5 EuroMillions tickets! ;D
...might get an Ian Francis original though!
I considered it...then decided against it. I would rather have a signed Gold Flags and 700 EuroMillions tickets. Instead I settled for no Gold Flags and 5 EuroMillions tickets! ;D ...might get an Ian Francis original though!
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LAZ Raffle, by alsbabar on Sept 5, 2008 12:42:24 GMT 1, grafter, are you not a part of the great and the good, or are you feeling left out?
Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones!!!
grafter, are you not a part of the great and the good, or are you feeling left out?
Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones!!!
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LAZ Raffle, by Grafter on Sept 5, 2008 13:06:28 GMT 1, Ha, ha....... maybe you should come round and have a look at my bank statements...
Please, if you ever catch me rubbing shoulders with that mob, feel free to come up and remove my eyeballs with a corkscrew. I'd deserve it.
Ha, ha....... maybe you should come round and have a look at my bank statements...
Please, if you ever catch me rubbing shoulders with that mob, feel free to come up and remove my eyeballs with a corkscrew. I'd deserve it.
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LAZ Raffle, by doublehelix on Sept 5, 2008 13:15:48 GMT 1, Please, if you ever catch me rubbing shoulders with that mob, feel free to come up and remove my eyeballs with a corkscrew. I'd deserve it.
Isn't that you in the doorway, nurse hand me the corkscrew:
Please, if you ever catch me rubbing shoulders with that mob, feel free to come up and remove my eyeballs with a corkscrew. I'd deserve it. Isn't that you in the doorway, nurse hand me the corkscrew:
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LAZ Raffle, by alsbabar on Sept 5, 2008 13:24:59 GMT 1, hang on, werent you selling your pieces at the recent corked street show, at ยฃ400 a piece for an edition of 10, others at ยฃ1000 and ยฃ1200, that is pretty high prices for a relative unknown, wouldnt you say? Isnt that the "more money then sense" people you are trying to attract with those prices?
address please, i will bring the corkscrew!!!
hang on, werent you selling your pieces at the recent corked street show, at ยฃ400 a piece for an edition of 10, others at ยฃ1000 and ยฃ1200, that is pretty high prices for a relative unknown, wouldnt you say? Isnt that the "more money then sense" people you are trying to attract with those prices?
address please, i will bring the corkscrew!!!
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