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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by carlito on Jun 15, 2008 22:43:05 GMT 1, carlito - banksy, dface, walker, faile, neate, etc, all who sell prints, originals etc, all are culpible for the direction where this "whole movement is going". Is it any different now, then when it started? I dare say that Smif/BE will be no different - he/she wont be giving art away once interests in his/her work picks up!!!
I'd say it's very very different to where it started from, money now being a huge motivation behind alot of activity - hopefully tho there's still a message to get out there and artists who still have drive to make a difference or at least make us all question the norm
carlito - banksy, dface, walker, faile, neate, etc, all who sell prints, originals etc, all are culpible for the direction where this "whole movement is going". Is it any different now, then when it started? I dare say that Smif/BE will be no different - he/she wont be giving art away once interests in his/her work picks up!!! I'd say it's very very different to where it started from, money now being a huge motivation behind alot of activity - hopefully tho there's still a message to get out there and artists who still have drive to make a difference or at least make us all question the norm
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 15, 2008 22:49:30 GMT 1, its their jobs.
what part of that do you NOT understand.
Of course they do it for money as much as you go to work to earn money but im not saying that is against the grain,
'WWAAAAAHHHAAYYYYY, what tossers eh...dont work, paint pretty pictures on pavements and drink and it will all be alllllll riiiight. paartay.'
reality check in this thread please
its their jobs.
what part of that do you NOT understand.
Of course they do it for money as much as you go to work to earn money but im not saying that is against the grain,
'WWAAAAAHHHAAYYYYY, what tossers eh...dont work, paint pretty pictures on pavements and drink and it will all be alllllll riiiight. paartay.'
reality check in this thread please
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by felix on Jun 15, 2008 22:52:21 GMT 1, I'd say it's very very different to where it started from, money now being a huge motivation behind alot of activity - hopefully tho there's still a message to get out there and artists who still have drive to make a difference or at least make us all question the norm
Banksy, David Choe, Herakut, Adam Neate (to name a few) all still have a message to give - I think alot of the people who are buying are the ones that are getting the artists message hugely confused.
I'd say it's very very different to where it started from, money now being a huge motivation behind alot of activity - hopefully tho there's still a message to get out there and artists who still have drive to make a difference or at least make us all question the norm Banksy, David Choe, Herakut, Adam Neate (to name a few) all still have a message to give - I think alot of the people who are buying are the ones that are getting the artists message hugely confused.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by alsbabar on Jun 15, 2008 22:54:29 GMT 1, not sure Carlito, with the exception of Blek, Banksy, who else really made us question the norm? Certainly not Neate, Parla, Eine, Faile, Micallef, or Invader!!! A new generation of artists are and will come through with thought provoking street art. Its all cyclical - out with the old in with the fashion
not sure Carlito, with the exception of Blek, Banksy, who else really made us question the norm? Certainly not Neate, Parla, Eine, Faile, Micallef, or Invader!!! A new generation of artists are and will come through with thought provoking street art. Its all cyclical - out with the old in with the fashion
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by carlito on Jun 15, 2008 22:55:27 GMT 1, I'd say it's very very different to where it started from, money now being a huge motivation behind alot of activity - hopefully tho there's still a message to get out there and artists who still have drive to make a difference or at least make us all question the norm Banksy, David Choe, Herakut, Adam Neate (to name a few) all still have a message to give - I think alot of the people who are buying are the ones that are getting the artists message hugely confused.
exactly Felix
I'd say it's very very different to where it started from, money now being a huge motivation behind alot of activity - hopefully tho there's still a message to get out there and artists who still have drive to make a difference or at least make us all question the norm Banksy, David Choe, Herakut, Adam Neate (to name a few) all still have a message to give - I think alot of the people who are buying are the ones that are getting the artists message hugely confused. exactly Felix
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by felix on Jun 15, 2008 22:57:01 GMT 1, eg JBOY buying a beautiful Peter Blake print for £30 and trying to sell it for £500 a few days later. The art car bootfair is an event for fun - to get cheap art out to the masses, not to exploit and make personal gain from.
eg JBOY buying a beautiful Peter Blake print for £30 and trying to sell it for £500 a few days later. The art car bootfair is an event for fun - to get cheap art out to the masses, not to exploit and make personal gain from.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by carlito on Jun 15, 2008 22:58:04 GMT 1, not sure Carlito, with the exception of Blek, Banksy, who else really made us question the norm? Certainly not Neate, Parla, Eine, Faile, Micallef, or Invader!!! A new generation of artists are and will come through with thought provoking street art. Its all cyclical - out with the old in with the fashion
being hugely generalised with what I'm saying Als and of course there's nothing wrong with something that just makes you smile - hell that what D's work does for me
not sure Carlito, with the exception of Blek, Banksy, who else really made us question the norm? Certainly not Neate, Parla, Eine, Faile, Micallef, or Invader!!! A new generation of artists are and will come through with thought provoking street art. Its all cyclical - out with the old in with the fashion being hugely generalised with what I'm saying Als and of course there's nothing wrong with something that just makes you smile - hell that what D's work does for me
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 15, 2008 22:59:20 GMT 1, you are trying to turn something which has nothing do do with me into a diss and im not taking it because they print is not mine if you cared to read the threads properly instead of judging like 90% of your threads start of by doing.
you are trying to turn something which has nothing do do with me into a diss and im not taking it because they print is not mine if you cared to read the threads properly instead of judging like 90% of your threads start of by doing.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by alsbabar on Jun 15, 2008 23:00:21 GMT 1, never a truer word spoken Carlito
Dont get me wrong, I have most of these artists works, I didnt buy them for their message, more there aesthetic value, which do make me smile.
I guess I have really come full circle and answered my own point, i guess the message is in the smile
never a truer word spoken Carlito
Dont get me wrong, I have most of these artists works, I didnt buy them for their message, more there aesthetic value, which do make me smile.
I guess I have really come full circle and answered my own point, i guess the message is in the smile
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 15, 2008 23:02:24 GMT 1, anyone seen that eyesaw stuff?
anyone seen that eyesaw stuff?
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by carlito on Jun 15, 2008 23:03:57 GMT 1, never a truer word spoken Carlito Dont get me wrong, I have most of these artists works, I didnt buy them for their message, more there aesthetic value, which do make me smile. I guess I have really come full circle and answered my own point, i guess the message is in the smile
u see I very much come from 'the message' and 'this doesn't belong in a gallery with the all the toffs' point of view...but everyone is entitled to enjoy what they like and street art is for everyone
never a truer word spoken Carlito Dont get me wrong, I have most of these artists works, I didnt buy them for their message, more there aesthetic value, which do make me smile. I guess I have really come full circle and answered my own point, i guess the message is in the smile u see I very much come from 'the message' and 'this doesn't belong in a gallery with the all the toffs' point of view...but everyone is entitled to enjoy what they like and street art is for everyone
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by felix on Jun 15, 2008 23:04:48 GMT 1, you are trying to turn something which has nothing do do with me into a diss and im not taking it because they print is not mine if you cared to read the threads properly instead of judging like 90% of your threads start of by doing.
90% of your threads are bullshit - You start with posting 'wow look at this artist, check out this print it's great', next thing is 'look at this great print I told you about, if you missed out unlucky, but I can do you a favour and sell it to you for a 500% mark up'.
This cycle happens EVERY month and I am hugely tired of it.
I also don't give a shit who's the print is - you are the one doing the dirty promotion work. If you are such a hot graphic designer 'with contacts' why don't you make your money from your job or at least stop posting your shitty flipping threads on here.
you are trying to turn something which has nothing do do with me into a diss and im not taking it because they print is not mine if you cared to read the threads properly instead of judging like 90% of your threads start of by doing. 90% of your threads are bullshit - You start with posting 'wow look at this artist, check out this print it's great', next thing is 'look at this great print I told you about, if you missed out unlucky, but I can do you a favour and sell it to you for a 500% mark up'. This cycle happens EVERY month and I am hugely tired of it. I also don't give a shit who's the print is - you are the one doing the dirty promotion work. If you are such a hot graphic designer 'with contacts' why don't you make your money from your job or at least stop posting your shitty flipping threads on here.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 15, 2008 23:05:48 GMT 1, dont talk to me felix, your hurting my feelings.
boo.
dont talk to me felix, your hurting my feelings.
boo.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by felix on Jun 15, 2008 23:08:24 GMT 1, dont talk to me felix, your hurting my feelings. boo.
Truth hurts assmunch, why don't you defend yourself like you defend D*Face.
Oh I see... you don't have your work to sell, but have just bought a shedload of the other.
dont talk to me felix, your hurting my feelings. boo. Truth hurts assmunch, why don't you defend yourself like you defend D*Face. Oh I see... you don't have your work to sell, but have just bought a shedload of the other.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 15, 2008 23:09:26 GMT 1, besides, its not the point it cost £30 as thats a stupid excuse now days. my local milkman only pays 30p a pint but charges me 90p. what a milk churner, should be ashamed of himself.
plus its less than the last one sold for and its not listed at £500 as i told him it was a stupid price.
cats like felix, like felix.
miow.
besides, its not the point it cost £30 as thats a stupid excuse now days. my local milkman only pays 30p a pint but charges me 90p. what a milk churner, should be ashamed of himself.
plus its less than the last one sold for and its not listed at £500 as i told him it was a stupid price.
cats like felix, like felix.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by felix on Jun 15, 2008 23:14:10 GMT 1, besides, its not the point it cost £30 as thats a stupid excuse now days. my local milkman only pays 30p a pint but charges me 90p. what a milk churner, should be ashamed of himself.
So your saying this is your job? I take it you have to charge your inflated prices to run the milkyard, pay your staff and run your milkfloat?
besides, its not the point it cost £30 as thats a stupid excuse now days. my local milkman only pays 30p a pint but charges me 90p. what a milk churner, should be ashamed of himself. So your saying this is your job? I take it you have to charge your inflated prices to run the milkyard, pay your staff and run your milkfloat?
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by snakes on Jun 15, 2008 23:15:24 GMT 1, my cat prefers felix to whiskers. The latter just gives him the runs!
my cat prefers felix to whiskers. The latter just gives him the runs!
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by alsbabar on Jun 15, 2008 23:16:16 GMT 1, its now the felix vs Jboy thread, can you guys please take your issues to PM or start a new thread and continue there
its now the felix vs Jboy thread, can you guys please take your issues to PM or start a new thread and continue there
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 15, 2008 23:19:15 GMT 1, i didnt start it, felix loves to act like a shit that wont flush when im around.
i didnt start it, felix loves to act like a shit that wont flush when im around.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by felix on Jun 15, 2008 23:20:15 GMT 1, its now the felix vs Jboy thread, can you guys please take your issues to PM or start a new thread and continue there
Got carried away, I have just slapped myself on the wrists, sorry.
its now the felix vs Jboy thread, can you guys please take your issues to PM or start a new thread and continue there Got carried away, I have just slapped myself on the wrists, sorry.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 15, 2008 23:25:14 GMT 1, tell you what, does anyone remember that thread about site where that guy was selling those rubbish prints. Think it was called subversive art or something of that nature.
That descended into chaos as well. Its always these threads about rubbish art which start these arguments.
tell you what, does anyone remember that thread about site where that guy was selling those rubbish prints. Think it was called subversive art or something of that nature.
That descended into chaos as well. Its always these threads about rubbish art which start these arguments.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by thesewalls on Jun 15, 2008 23:25:39 GMT 1, bleeding smif dude whatever, you have a lot to learn in this life. i pray that you find a productive, happy way to get your angst out. and remember, it's not all about you!
JBOY - you really don't know when to shut up do you. walk away from the computer. i repeat, walk away from the computer. it doesn't take an OG forum member to realize that you are just talking to yourself in most of your posts. people stopped listening to you man. you also need to find a productive, happy way to get your angst out...posting does NOT count.
i truely believe the two of you would be friends in person...you would talk about how cool you were, how much better and more real you were than everyone else. how your sh*t don't stink. it do boys, it do.
bleeding smif dude whatever, you have a lot to learn in this life. i pray that you find a productive, happy way to get your angst out. and remember, it's not all about you!
JBOY - you really don't know when to shut up do you. walk away from the computer. i repeat, walk away from the computer. it doesn't take an OG forum member to realize that you are just talking to yourself in most of your posts. people stopped listening to you man. you also need to find a productive, happy way to get your angst out...posting does NOT count.
i truely believe the two of you would be friends in person...you would talk about how cool you were, how much better and more real you were than everyone else. how your sh*t don't stink. it do boys, it do.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 15, 2008 23:26:36 GMT 1, ok 88 posts, you havent been around that long so ill let you off.
this is quite normal.
ok 88 posts, you havent been around that long so ill let you off.
this is quite normal.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by Daniel Silk on Jun 15, 2008 23:27:06 GMT 1, It seems a lot of these sort of threads all boil down to Money, and its involvement in this or whatever scene. I just dont see it as any sort of issue really coz EVERYTHING in the end revolves around money! its just the way the world is, and hiding from the facts of life is just a waste of time No matter what views an Artists has, he could even give all his art away for free! but he still has to find a way of raising money to pay for the paint and stuff in the first place.
It seems a lot of these sort of threads all boil down to Money, and its involvement in this or whatever scene. I just dont see it as any sort of issue really coz EVERYTHING in the end revolves around money! its just the way the world is, and hiding from the facts of life is just a waste of time No matter what views an Artists has, he could even give all his art away for free! but he still has to find a way of raising money to pay for the paint and stuff in the first place.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by alsbabar on Jun 15, 2008 23:27:50 GMT 1, but its not healthy 1208 posts
but its not healthy 1208 posts
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 15, 2008 23:29:05 GMT 1, trust me, it would be a lot worse if i would have kept my original account...sheesh.
that was at 1,300 posts as well
trust me, it would be a lot worse if i would have kept my original account...sheesh.
that was at 1,300 posts as well
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by carlito on Jun 15, 2008 23:30:56 GMT 1, It seems a lot of these sort of threads all boil down to Money, and its involvement in this or whatever scene. I just dont see it as any sort of issue really coz EVERYTHING in the end revolves around money! its just the way the world is, and hiding from the facts of life is just a waste of time No matter what views an Artists has, he could even give all his art away for free! but he still has to find a way of raising money to pay for the paint and stuff in the first place.
sorrry but there's way more to life than money (obviously it's a necessity in the society we live in) - if all all your sole objective is to obtain it I'd say that's a pretty sorry state of affairs - that's not directed at any artist in particular but it would be sad to think that's why someone sat down to make a stencil in the first place
It seems a lot of these sort of threads all boil down to Money, and its involvement in this or whatever scene. I just dont see it as any sort of issue really coz EVERYTHING in the end revolves around money! its just the way the world is, and hiding from the facts of life is just a waste of time No matter what views an Artists has, he could even give all his art away for free! but he still has to find a way of raising money to pay for the paint and stuff in the first place. sorrry but there's way more to life than money (obviously it's a necessity in the society we live in) - if all all your sole objective is to obtain it I'd say that's a pretty sorry state of affairs - that's not directed at any artist in particular but it would be sad to think that's why someone sat down to make a stencil in the first place
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by Daniel Silk on Jun 15, 2008 23:31:05 GMT 1, ok 88 posts, you havent been around that long so ill let you off. this is quite normal.
Sorry JBoy I gotta agree with thesewalls a little You have crossed the line a bit over the last few days but I know your hearts in the right place ;D
ok 88 posts, you havent been around that long so ill let you off. this is quite normal. Sorry JBoy I gotta agree with thesewalls a little You have crossed the line a bit over the last few days but I know your hearts in the right place ;D
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 15, 2008 23:33:07 GMT 1, its on the sleeve man, its on the sleeve!
its on the sleeve man, its on the sleeve!
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by Daniel Silk on Jun 15, 2008 23:34:58 GMT 1, It seems a lot of these sort of threads all boil down to Money, and its involvement in this or whatever scene. I just dont see it as any sort of issue really coz EVERYTHING in the end revolves around money! its just the way the world is, and hiding from the facts of life is just a waste of time No matter what views an Artists has, he could even give all his art away for free! but he still has to find a way of raising money to pay for the paint and stuff in the first place. sorrry but there's way more to life than money (obviously it's a necessity in the society we live in) - if all all your sole objective is to obtain it I'd say that's a pretty sorry state of affairs - that's not directed at any artist in particular but it would be sad to think that's why someone sat down to make a stencil in the first place
Obviously theres much more to life than money. What I was saying is You, Me, DFace & BleedingEdge need money just to survive its just a fact of life, so anyone telling an artist who they should be selling their art to just seems a bit wrong.
It seems a lot of these sort of threads all boil down to Money, and its involvement in this or whatever scene. I just dont see it as any sort of issue really coz EVERYTHING in the end revolves around money! its just the way the world is, and hiding from the facts of life is just a waste of time No matter what views an Artists has, he could even give all his art away for free! but he still has to find a way of raising money to pay for the paint and stuff in the first place. sorrry but there's way more to life than money (obviously it's a necessity in the society we live in) - if all all your sole objective is to obtain it I'd say that's a pretty sorry state of affairs - that's not directed at any artist in particular but it would be sad to think that's why someone sat down to make a stencil in the first place Obviously theres much more to life than money. What I was saying is You, Me, DFace & BleedingEdge need money just to survive its just a fact of life, so anyone telling an artist who they should be selling their art to just seems a bit wrong.
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