thanks Silky, ever thought about being a panelist on Match of the Day?

been done before plenty of times to no conclusion just differing opinions

for what its worth i think both - more so a good G.Designer

Cant do any worse then Mark Lawrenson ;D

I think most people would agree he's more of a Graphic Artist, but I would say Warhol was too! and he aint done to bad ;D

i think people forgot the fact that DFace is a graphic designer by trade and profession. he has progressed his work onto the street but im sure he would tell you himself the basis of his work is graphic design theres no debate here just accept his work as it appears, you like it or you dont, pay his prices or dont, theres no denying hes popular

So if you use a Mac you are what ??

the designers republic need to update their website.. they've had the same one for years.

A Mac user.

On a serious note, isnt it easier to pass yourself off as an artist with the advancement of technology without ever having picked up a paint brush?

I think so, its lazy art in a way, though it doesnt of course make it less vaild.

a non pc user?

;D ;D

Il go with that - does that officially make me an artist? can i get a red star? ;D

That's a very old fashioned view about what an artist should be. Long before the computer was in public use artists had shied away from the traditional media of paint on canvas. It sure as hell doesn't make them lazy.

Look at it this way. Let's say you are an artists who paints wildlife. What's the creative process that goes on in your head when you are painting, say, a tiger. Do you think - Right I am now going to paint the best tiger that has ever been painted, it is going to be so much better than the 10,000 other tigers that have been painted by artists before me.

Now compare that with the conceptual art of today, or minimalism, or cubism or indeed any art that challenged the boundaries of what is art - it's all about new thought and new ideas. To think up something novel and thought provoking is not lazy, however quickly you are then able to execute the idea.

For me its not how you do it - its the result that counts. An artist doesn't have to use (or not use) specific tools/techniques to create art. It wasn't too long ago that many considered stencil techniques not to be art. Street art has changed what people precieve as art, and this will continue to change.

I'm not really talking about Dface but more your definition of what an artist is - i.e. someone who can paint or draw to a high standard. As I said before that's a pretty old-fashioned view of what an artist is.